Warrior for a raider with limited time

[Revanx22]

I made a human paladin today after help from you guys in my race thread, but I wanted to ask this before I get carried away. I recently hit 55 on my shaman and have done some raiding, but this is my first time playing everquest since I was in grade school, so I don't know much about it.

Are warriors worth it for someone that can only make 1-3 raids each week? To be clear, I don't care if I'm the main tank and I don't ever see that happening, which is why I thought paladin would be better. I guess I'm a boring guy, but I love the idea of mainly just being an auto attacking class and I know I'm that regards I would never get tired of it, I'm mainly concerned with gearing up. The few warriors I do know all either work from home or are on disability, and I just don't have the time that those guys do.

If it matters, I only have 10k to throw around. This would be my main, as I just don't care for the shaman anymore. Constant cannibalizing has started to drive me crazy and I want something more chill.

[Crede]

Rogue

[Toxigen]

Rogue

[sajbert]

Yeah tbh Rogue seems like the best option if you want something chill with 1-button.

Rogues don't pull. Rogues don't need to learn how to tank big bosses, use clickies and whatnot.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I made a human paladin today after help from you guys in my race thread, but I wanted to ask this before I get carried away. I recently hit 55 on my shaman and have done some raiding, but this is my first time playing everquest since I was in grade school, so I don't know much about it.

Are warriors worth it for someone that can only make 1-3 raids each week? To be clear, I don't care if I'm the main tank and I don't ever see that happening, which is why I thought paladin would be better. I guess I'm a boring guy, but I love the idea of mainly just being an auto attacking class and I know I'm that regards I would never get tired of it, I'm mainly concerned with gearing up. The few warriors I do know all either work from home or are on disability, and I just don't have the time that those guys do.

If it matters, I only have 10k to throw around. This would be my main, as I just don't care for the shaman anymore. Constant cannibalizing has started to drive me crazy and I want something more chill.

If you are planning on soloing a good portion of the time to level, Warrior is going to be a tougher road to travel. Same with Rogue. While I agree with the other posters Rogue does fit your "boring autoattacker" idea, you are going to have a tough time leveling solo with only 10k. As a Rogue you need to be great at forming groups, or have some friends you can level with.

I'd say go with Monk if you plan on soloing often. They are also a "boring autoattacker" class. You will need to learn how to pull if you plan on raiding, however. I am not sure how you feel about pulling.

[Troxx]

I would never discourage someone from playing warrior. It can be a rewarding experience whether or not you raid. It can be frustrating as well.

I’ve never played another class that more keenly felt the impact of every upgrade picked up along the way. Biggest upgrade “feels” are haste (your first and every better drop later) and weapons.

[Revanx22]

Rogue was actually my first pick when I started on p99, but I gave up at level 20ish because I couldn't do anything without a group. I know warriors can't solo with my level of gear, but I thought I could at least kill a blue mob and afk a bit while hp comes back. Is rogue able to do that to any extent when a group isn't available? Not looking to legit solo, just dickin around while trying to get a group going.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Rogue was actually my first pick when I started on p99, but I gave up at level 20ish because I couldn't do anything without a group. I know warriors can't solo with my level of gear, but I thought I could at least kill a blue mob and afk a bit while hp comes back. Is rogue able to do that to any extent when a group isn't available? Not looking to legit solo, just dickin around while trying to get a group going.

Both Warriors and Rogues can solo with 10k worth of gear since you can afford a good ratio weapon + a haste item. You should also be able to buy https://wiki.project1999.com/Embalmers_Skinning_Knife for infinite bandages.

It's just going to be slower. You are going to be killing a static mob, AFKing while you recover your HP, rinse and repeat. The mob is probably going to need to be a bit lower level than usual XP mobs too, which means less XP per kill.

If you think you can handle that, then you should be fine. You can also try bow kiting mobs if you want to put in more effort. Get Jboots or SoW pots and get your fletching skill up so you can make arrows while out in the field. Buy the arrow ingredients and bring your fletching kit. This will give you more arrows in total than simply bringing arrow stacks.

I am not sure which route ends up being faster, but neither are great compared to other classes that can solo well.

[Vexenu]

No, Rogue is the worst solo class in the game. Don't play one if you have any interest whatsoever in soloing. Paladin is not an exceptional soloer, but fairly safe and steady. Kill, heal, med up as needed, repeat.

10k is also plenty to twink a viable solo Paladin. Just get the best ratio 2H weapon you can find, an FBSS/SCHW and fill the rest of your slots with AC/STR/HP gear. Deepwater Helm (clicky heal) will be a must-have by level 46 when you can start clicking it. The bracer and arms are also worth picking up, and they can all be had for a few hundred plat apiece (basically just over the vendor price).

[Keebz]

[re: soloing]
Warrior and Rogue both solo poorly unless you're going hard with the twinkage (think fungi). You have no spells or abilities so basically you're stuck picking off blues near zone lines.

The hybrids and Monks can do this much more convincingly. Turns out spells and abilities give you more options—who knew.

[re: raiding]
Warriors are desired on raids, but you're gonna get called to MT (or get relentlessly clowned on) and gear upgrades might be pretty slow. However, if you can MT a little, you will be loved.

Paladin, you will tank trash or ramp tank sometimes, but mostly you're gonna auto-attack and cast a buff. Sometimes you'll be asked to not attack, but rather watch the tank's HP and click Soulfire CH charges.

As a Rogue you're going to autoattack. Sometimes they might want you to use your disc to bump, but even if you're bad at this you will be loved, as rogues are so necessary for velious raids.

Monks are great autoattackers and basically never tank (exception being you're practically BiS and vocal about it), but will be asked to pull. Pulling is fun, but tricky and potentially stressful. You will get clowned on if you just autoattack in camp—"camp monk" will be your name. Gear upgrades will also be competitive. Like Rogues you will be asked to bump.

Rangers basically just cast 1 buff and autoattack. You will also have to bump from time to time. People will love you because melees really want that 1 buff. If you manage to not suck at bumping you will be a hero.


That being said, I think Paladin is good choice if you enjoy it. Ranger also seems up you're alley. Being camp monk is also a time honored tradition of shaman mains, so I wouldn't rule it out.

[Troxx]

Rogue was actually my first pick when I started on p99, but I gave up at level 20ish because I couldn't do anything without a group. I know warriors can't solo with my level of gear, but I thought I could at least kill a blue mob and afk a bit while hp comes back. Is rogue able to do that to any extent when a group isn't available? Not looking to legit solo, just dickin around while trying to get a group going.

With 10k to spend on a warrior, soloing is absolutely possible. Other classes will do it a whole lot better but don’t let anyone tell you it’s not possible.

I think people forget that the first 50 levels of this game saw people on live rocking banded gear, no worn haste, shit weapons, bronze armor and absolutely lusting over fine steel (or crafted armor for warriors). A warrior with level/content appropriate gear, a backpack full of bandages, and some common sense can manage fine on their own for those times when a group isn’t around. They did it back then. They can still manage it now.

10k these days is going to get you a set of weapons better than you could have dreamed of in classic, entry level worn haste, a pair of 5-6ac and 55-65hp rings, a full set of crusty armor and still leave you with a few thousand plat to spare/save.

Again, the same amount of plat on most other classes will have you soloing much better but anyone who says you can’t solo with the above is smoking crack. You might be slow at the killing and want to limit yourself to outdoor zones, but it’s definitely very doable. Especially if you stick to mobs that are low blue con to you (not hard).

This server is so full of people with a half dozen raid twinked alts that we seem to have forgotten you don’t need a fungi to wreck the low level game.

[7thGate]

I think people forget that the first 50 levels of this game saw people on live rocking banded gear, no worn haste, shit weapons, bronze armor and absolutely lusting over fine steel (or crafted armor for warriors). A warrior with level/content appropriate gear, a backpack full of bandages, and some common sense can manage fine on their own for those times when a group isn’t around. They did it back then. They can still manage it now.

While this is true, back in the day warriors were not a solo class. Very few classes were; everyone grouped in 6 man groups, because once you got out of the first 10 levels or so, you needed the strength of a team to kill relevant stuff. You can solo fine on a rogue or warrior but only be overgearing a ton vs. a typical classic age character or high level external buffing.

[Videri]

If you’re proactive and communicative, you can make groups most of the time. It’ll be a fun journey, and you’ll make some friends along the way.

[sajbert]

Warrior solo is awful. Don't expect to solo blues for long.

Monk is maybe your best bet then assuming you just flat out refuse to pull in groups and raids.

[PatChapp]

Warrior can solo fine with that much in gear just using bandaids.

[Snaggles]

I soloed a pally to 60 easily with only a DW helm and Reaver, later a narandi lance and a spiked seahorse belt. Absolutely with no intent to ever raid on p99.

Fast forward, I do raid the pally and get to tank a lot of stuff I never assumed I would. As a group tank outside a few nasty targets it's all the tank most casual people would need.

I would play a warrior if you want to play a warrior. This game isnt about the grind, it's about regretting what you could have had. If you care to ever dual-wield or hit that disc and soak up real damage: go warrior. If you would rather be able to root park and save a squishy class with a LoH: go pally.

[wittles]

If you are planning on soloing a good portion of the time to level, Warrior is going to be a tougher road to travel. Same with Rogue. While I agree with the other posters Rogue does fit your "boring autoattacker" idea, you are going to have a tough time leveling solo with only 10k. As a Rogue you need to be great at forming groups, or have some friends you can level with.

I'd say go with Monk if you plan on soloing often. They are also a "boring autoattacker" class. You will need to learn how to pull if you plan on raiding, however. I am not sure how you feel about pulling.

I will disagree with this statement.

Use the 1K twink guide here and for the BP get an Iksar Ceremonial BP. I have solo'd my rogue to 37 with that gear set up. I can see getting to early/mid 40s with her geared that way.

[wittles]

With 10k to spend on a warrior, soloing is absolutely possible. Other classes will do it a whole lot better but don’t let anyone tell you it’s not possible.

I think people forget that the first 50 levels of this game saw people on live rocking banded gear, no worn haste, shit weapons, bronze armor and absolutely lusting over fine steel (or crafted armor for warriors). A warrior with level/content appropriate gear, a backpack full of bandages, and some common sense can manage fine on their own for those times when a group isn’t around. They did it back then. They can still manage it now.

10k these days is going to get you a set of weapons better than you could have dreamed of in classic, entry level worn haste, a pair of 5-6ac and 55-65hp rings, a full set of crusty armor and still leave you with a few thousand plat to spare/save.

Again, the same amount of plat on most other classes will have you soloing much better but anyone who says you can’t solo with the above is smoking crack. You might be slow at the killing and want to limit yourself to outdoor zones, but it’s definitely very doable. Especially if you stick to mobs that are low blue con to you (not hard).

This server is so full of people with a half dozen raid twinked alts that we seem to have forgotten you don’t need a fungi to wreck the low level game.

Amen!

[enjchanter]

I will disagree with this statement.

Use the 1K twink guide here and for the BP get an Iksar Ceremonial BP. I have solo'd my rogue to 37 with that gear set up. I can see getting to early/mid 40s with her geared that way.

Should really be a requirement to provide some context for these kinda sentiments

Soloing on a rogue with a 1k budget sounds like torture

[wittles]

Should really be a requirement to provide some context for these kinda sentiments

Soloing on a rogue with a 1k budget sounds like torture

Try it. You would be amazed at what the modern game economy can get a rogue, or warrior set up with for just 1k and solo effectively.

[Jimjam]

Should really be a requirement to provide some context for these kinda sentiments

Soloing on a rogue with a 1k budget sounds like torture

1k plus a regen tunic… thats an 11k budget!

[Solist]

I solo'd a rogue a lot with a ring 10, salindrite dagger, horn of hsagra, priceless weaps, primal bow, white dragon helm, fungi, cloak of flames, 2 x AoB items, chardok ring2, beads, aon, etc etc from level 5ish.

It's not as good as a 10k geared monk.

[Crede]

I solo'd a rogue a lot with a ring 10, salindrite dagger, horn of hsagra, priceless weaps, primal bow, white dragon helm, fungi, cloak of flames, 2 x AoB items, chardok ring2, beads, aon, etc etc from level 5ish.

It's not as good as a 10k geared monk.

Ranger would have been infinitely more fun with that gear.

[Toxigen]

I solo'd a rogue a lot with a ring 10, salindrite dagger, horn of hsagra, priceless weaps, primal bow, white dragon helm, fungi, cloak of flames, 2 x AoB items, chardok ring2, beads, aon, etc etc from level 5ish.

It's not as good as a 10k geared monk.

wow you're so cool

[Crede]

I think where the devs messed up was making monks good dps. They should be like below bards imo. Would have been a neat class still for pulling/mitigation, the concept of a monk is more peaceful anyway. And they’d be way more balanced. My monk was still topping Raid parses well into later xpacs

[zelld52]

I solo'd a rogue a lot with a ring 10, salindrite dagger, horn of hsagra, priceless weaps, primal bow, white dragon helm, fungi, cloak of flames, 2 x AoB items, chardok ring2, beads, aon, etc etc from level 5ish.

It's not as good as a 10k geared monk.

Why would a rogue need beads at level 5? And why get priceless weps if you got salindrite dagger / horn of hsagra?

Either way, same. Monk with SCHW + Peacebringer is better at solo than an ultra geared rogue

[zelld52]

Constant cannibalizing has started to drive me crazy and I want something more chill.

Try soloing. Much less Cannibalization. I parsed my actions in group as shaman, 75% of them were casting Cannibalize / Grim Aura earring. 25% was split between slows, buffs and occasional heal.

It also gets better with Canni 4. Canni 3 sucks, and you have to cast it many more times than you would canni 4.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Try soloing. Much less Cannibalization. I parsed my actions in group as shaman, 75% of them were casting Cannibalize / Grim Aura earring. 25% was split between slows, buffs and occasional heal.

It also gets better with Canni 4. Canni 3 sucks, and you have to cast it many more times than you would canni 4.

Yeah things get better with Canni 4 and Torpor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPxeOVuX0G8 - I am doing 19 actions per minute on average in this fight.

[enjchanter]

Try it. You would be amazed at what the modern game economy can get a rogue, or warrior set up with for just 1k and solo effectively.

Bro can u even buy 1 piece of gear for less than 1k plat that isn't just like banded armor

[zelld52]

Bro can u even buy 1 piece of gear for less than 1k plat that isn't just like banded armor

Wouldn't have haste, and can barely afford HP rings. so might as well spend 100p for banded armor, and spend 900p on decent weps. Guard captains Mallet and Jade mace or something.

[wittles]

Wouldn't have haste, and can barely afford HP rings. so might as well spend 100p for banded armor, and spend 900p on decent weps. Guard captains Mallet and Jade mace or something.

Person has 10k to use. They use the 1k twink guide to start. That leaves 9 k for CIB and SCHW. There is regen and haste. Warrior will level fine.

[Snaggles]

A warrior can solo to 60, it was easier back with battle-bind wound and instant root nets. It's not the same as a knight though. Simply put, pally hps/second recovery even casting lowbie heals is better. At 45 its game over unless you have a cobalt bp (a DW helm is 400p), especially if you have to split spawns. SK would out level one easily as well.

Play a warrior if you want. It's a great class. Soloing a gnome with 100k in gear is pretty fun. It's still not easy once you run out of old world low hp blues.

[Jimjam]

A warrior can solo to 60, it was easier back with battle-bind wound and instant root nets. It's not the same as a knight though. Simply put, pally hps/second recovery even casting lowbie heals is better. At 45 its game over unless you have a cobalt bp (a DW helm is 400p), especially if you have to split spawns. SK would out level one easily as well.

Play a warrior if you want. It's a great class. Soloing a gnome with 100k in gear is pretty fun. It's still not easy once you run out of old world low hp blues.

54 is 400 sonic bats. 55 and 56 slow down in solb as the bats begin to barely yield xp. It gets a lot better at 57 with 70% max bandage and lava duct crawlers become reliably killable. By the end there is even a decent chance to take out nox.

[Snaggles]

54 is 400 sonic bats. 55 and 56 slow down in solb as the bats begin to barely yield xp. It gets a lot better at 57 with 70% max bandage and lava duct crawlers become reliably killable. By the end there is even a decent chance to take out nox.

Have you ever killed a noble?

[Philistine]

I feel like if you want to play a warrior you should play a warrior. I agree that 10k is plenty for you to fulfill your role in a group and solo some, although personally I did not enjoy soloing on my modestly twinked (no fungi) warrior and almost exclusively grouped.

Freshly 60 and with modest gear, I'd be prepared to MT very little, RT some, and dps or hop on a Bot often until you get better gear.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that (it's the normal path!) but I've run into several warriors who hit 60 and expect to MT right away; the realization that they may not was very disappointing.

I feel like warrior is a class you need to go into because you want to and are going in with your eyes wide open.

I greatly enjoy mine, and have no regrets!

[Jimjam]

Have you ever killed a noble?

Not ungrouped - never tried it. Maybe I did on my green iksar Ximxam while duoing with an afk bard, but I don’t think that counts.

Maybe i’ll take Gorgen there when she next gets attention / up in level / gets bored of eating frogs (she periodically clears mutant/warden in guk).

[Snaggles]

Not ungrouped - never tried it. Maybe I did on my green iksar Ximxam while duoing with an afk bard, but I don’t think that counts.

Maybe i’ll take Gorgen there when she next gets attention / up in level / gets bored of eating frogs (she periodically clears mutant/warden in guk).

Well the scenery is nicer lol. Prob about bat difficulty.

[Trelaboon]

I have a rogue, warrior and Paladin all at 60, and I’m the exact mirror copy of you in terms of time. I attend a raid or two a week, the occasional quake etc.

Rogue is my favorite for raiding. It’s such an easy, relaxing class with zero responsibility but people still love you. If I wanted to make raiding my primary objective, or if what I cared about was solely raiding, I’d mostly play a Rogue.

Paladin is my favorite for group, or even solo content. While they’re not as good as a lot of the top tier solo classes, they’re extremely fun to dungeon crawl with solo. I absolutely love the class and I consider myself a Paladin main at heart.

My warrior is the one I play the least. It’s always the one I’ve probably wanted to have geared out more than any other, but in actuality, probably my least favorite. They can be kindof frustrating to tank with in groups while leveling, and unless you’re tanking stuff in a raid, you’re acting very similar to a rogue. I do love the class, but if I were to have to pick just one to play, it would be my last pick of the 3.

In order, based on a similar play schedule/style to your own, I’d do Paladin first, Rogue second, and Warrior last of the 3. That’s assuming I could only play one. Luckily p1999 isn’t going anywhere and I’ve had enough time to work on all 3!

That being said, I also hate playing a Shaman. The constant canni/click/torpor dance is extremely unfun to me, I don’t care how powerful they are. I find twisting nonstop on my Bard less obnoxious.

[Randarn]

As a warrior as my only 60, and not well geared, who casually raids as stated in OP. I'm content. It's very possible to casually enjoy raiding over time if warrior is your only character and you don't have plat. Eventually the dkp adds up to big upgrades for you. A best on slot legs, or feet or helm. The biggest thing I'd suggest keeping in mind as a casual warrior onky raider, is epic and super best in slot items you get from hall of testing quests that require Doze highly valued tears (ruby tear, platinum tear) should be forgotten. And to go for 2nd-3rd best items that are simple drops from dragons etc. But even without epic (get epic if you want, you can get awesome awesome dps 2hers and 1hers simply raiding over time. Dont let me stop you if you want lightsabers. It'll probably cost you 2-5months of dkp saved up though for the green dragon scales alone, thats the bottleneck) . There are times I'm asked to log a cleric bot due to me being the lower geared warrior, for fights like avatar of war.. where the extra cleric is honestly the better play no matter my gear on qarrior.. if I already was the 5th in line to tank, etc. Avatar of war is the king of clerics needed fights. So play warrior if you want! Trys 60 ogre warrior Green is main, some other green warrior only pkayers i know, who eventually got all bis items whos broke after too are Supository 60 ogre warrior green (think he's bis now-basically) he onky plays warrior and doesn't farm either. Keep the 10k, imo, for consumable recharging things like wc cap, funding thug gate pots, and the 1 charge 1k plat, instant gate pot to bind. There are more steps , considerations to successfully budget raid as warrior but that's a start. Save the plat for recharging, Hit 60, join imo good guys for most opportunities for raids, and casually pick and choose what you care to raid. The raid scene, racing, rule set and strategies are another fun challenging learning curve once you hit 60 anyways. A whole new challenge after 60. Hope something helps. I plan to play this for years. So not in a rush to bis when I can only casually play as well. Its fun though still :). Oh, and I was able to solo 50 - 60 with classic era gear. I played in classic era quit when I hit 50, and recently returned to game in velious era. As I was 50 upon returning, first thing i did was camp eyepatch of plunder stormfeather mob. Got all the map pieces besides Lodi piece. And leveled to 55 without a haste item. First thing I'd suggest to another is get kunark or velious cheap good ratio weapi s if you don't have. I came back at 59 with lower guk yaks, and a paw sword. Asap replaced my weapons and got a summon bandage dagger, which was 1.5k at the time and max my bandage skill. And group or solo finding creative npcs with low hp that were blue depending on your level. I moved to a different not each level. I did 50-52 placeholder for named giant in prison camp EW, 52-53? faerie dragons WL, 53-56? Halas 3 guard rotation mid map(with 100% druid or shm buffs up due to always a dru/shm in zone farming ice giants. Ez to request regen/buffs refresh) permafrost, 56/58-60swamp killing lvl 45 grik- there are other similar npcs in world (think 4-5?, but I just chose grik). Soloing to 60 as warrior could take you months, so grouping us advised, but I was patient and eventually hitv60.

[Ripqozko]

As a warrior as my only 60, and not well geared, who casually raids as stated in OP. I'm content. It's very possible to casually enjoy raiding over time if warrior is your only character and you don't have plat. Eventually the dkp adds up to big upgrades for you. A best on slot legs, or feet or helm. The biggest thing I'd suggest keeping in mind as a casual warrior onky raider, is epic and super best in slot items you get from hall of testing quests that require Doze highly valued tears (ruby tear, platinum tear) should be forgotten. And to go for 2nd-3rd best items that are simple drops from dragons etc. But even without epic (get epic if you want, you can get awesome awesome dps 2hers and 1hers simply raiding over time. Dont let me stop you if you want lightsabers. It'll probably cost you 2-5months of dkp saved up though for the green dragon scales alone, thats the bottleneck) . There are times I'm asked to log a cleric bot due to me being the lower geared warrior, for fights like avatar of war.. where the extra cleric is honestly the better play no matter my gear on qarrior.. if I already was the 5th in line to tank, etc. Avatar of war is the king of clerics needed fights. So play warrior if you want! Trys 60 ogre warrior Green is main, some other green warrior only pkayers i know, who eventually got all bis items whos broke after too are Supository 60 ogre warrior green (think he's bis now-basically) he onky plays warrior and doesn't farm either. Keep the 10k, imo, for consumable recharging things like wc cap, funding thug gate pots, and the 1 charge 1k plat, instant gate pot to bind. There are more steps , considerations to successfully budget raid as warrior but that's a start. Save the plat for recharging, Hit 60, join imo good guys for most opportunities for raids, and casually pick and choose what you care to raid. The raid scene, racing, rule set and strategies are another fun challenging learning curve once you hit 60 anyways. A whole new challenge after 60. Hope something helps. I plan to play this for years. So not in a rush to bis when I can only casually play as well. Its fun though still :). Oh, and I was able to solo 50 - 60 with classic era gear. I played in classic era quit when I hit 50, and recently returned to game in velious era. As I was 50 upon returning, first thing i did was camp eyepatch of plunder stormfeather mob. Got all the map pieces besides Lodi piece. And leveled to 55 without a haste item. First thing I'd suggest to another is get kunark or velious cheap good ratio weapi s if you don't have. I came back at 59 with lower guk yaks, and a paw sword. Asap replaced my weapons and got a summon bandage dagger, which was 1.5k at the time and max my bandage skill. And group or solo finding creative npcs with low hp that were blue depending on your level. I moved to a different not each level. I did 50-52 placeholder for named giant in prison camp EW, 52-53? faerie dragons WL, 53-56? Halas 3 guard rotation mid map(with 100% druid or shm buffs up due to always a dru/shm in zone farming ice giants. Ez to request regen/buffs refresh) permafrost, 56/58-60swamp killing lvl 45 grik- there are other similar npcs in world (think 4-5?, but I just chose grik). Soloing to 60 as warrior could take you months, so grouping us advised, but I was patient and eventually hitv60.

Consider hitting your enter key, hope that helps.

[Vexenu]

Consider hitting your enter key, hope that helps.
Judging by the standard of a dedicated Warrior main, his prose reads like Tolstoy or Fitzgerald.

[Troxx]

Holy text-wall

Please make paragraphs

[wagorf]

I have a rogue, warrior and Paladin all at 60, and I’m the exact mirror copy of you in terms of time. I attend a raid or two a week, the occasional quake etc.

Rogue is my favorite for raiding. It’s such an easy, relaxing class with zero responsibility but people still love you. If I wanted to make raiding my primary objective, or if what I cared about was solely raiding, I’d mostly play a Rogue.

Paladin is my favorite for group, or even solo content. While they’re not as good as a lot of the top tier solo classes, they’re extremely fun to dungeon crawl with solo. I absolutely love the class and I consider myself a Paladin main at heart.

My warrior is the one I play the least. It’s always the one I’ve probably wanted to have geared out more than any other, but in actuality, probably my least favorite. They can be kindof frustrating to tank with in groups while leveling, and unless you’re tanking stuff in a raid, you’re acting very similar to a rogue. I do love the class, but if I were to have to pick just one to play, it would be my last pick of the 3.

In order, based on a similar play schedule/style to your own, I’d do Paladin first, Rogue second, and Warrior last of the 3. That’s assuming I could only play one. Luckily p1999 isn’t going anywhere and I’ve had enough time to work on all 3!

That being said, I also hate playing a Shaman. The constant canni/click/torpor dance is extremely unfun to me, I don’t care how powerful they are. I find twisting nonstop on my Bard less obnoxious.

Have 60 of all melee classes all full raid geared.

Problem with war is that you'll eventually want to gear him with the best because it makes a world diff. Not so much with rogue or ranger. Every war piece gonna be highly competitive, so expect a long long process with low raid attendance.

10k you can level war np, but knowing that there's so much potential if you had this or that may drive you nuts.

If the goal is to chill at raid with auto atk, and gear a toon relatively well with limited raid attendance, go with rogue/ranger. If you want to tank while not raiding maybe go with hybrid.

[spoil]

Have 60 of all melee classes all full raid geared.


What is your favorite melee character, or any character for that matter to raid on? Enchanter main, I have a 52 pally but I don't think I would enjoy the leveling journey of a rogue or warrior enough to reach 60.

[Toxigen]

What is your favorite melee character, or any character for that matter to raid on? Enchanter main, I have a 52 pally but I don't think I would enjoy the leveling journey of a rogue or warrior enough to reach 60.

Enchanter is actually quite capable and not just the buffbot most baddies make them out to be.

You're charming in all the planes + Kael + Dain. You can charm a hatchling for tight races like Eashen, Vyemm, etc.

Dictate on Trak engages.

I always logged cleric bots for ST golems but I did charm some in a farm crew for prismatic scales.

Not sure how snappy tash aggro is now, but I used to get into a TL box group for insta tashes as flurries / slowable bosses were pulled. You get a TL box from wiz, tash tough mob, click box instantly, zone back in, get coth'd back immediately and get ready for the next one. Great way to get slows in ultra fast when you're on a competitive engage.

Sieves. Lots of sieves.

If Vulak meta is still wizards kiting all the guards in trips room you have goalie duties there.

Weak in VP for sure, though.

Anyone, including enchanters, can step up with a DA idol + earring and make a raid-saving play.

My experience could be a little out of date! I'm sure the meta has changed on some of this shit.

[PatChapp]

Tash barely makes them sniff at you anymore, it's near 0 agro

[Toxigen]

Tash barely makes them sniff at you anymore, it's near 0 agro

damn how times have changed

[wagorf]

What is your favorite melee character, or any character for that matter to raid on? Enchanter main, I have a 52 pally but I don't think I would enjoy the leveling journey of a rogue or warrior enough to reach 60.

rogue - you don't get any tells, is solid contributor with just one good weapon alongside epic, you won't fuck anything up - and you don't need tons of dkp for armors to stay alive

if you want to be called out and asked to do stuff, then war, plus you look cool