Close this forum

[Origen]

Close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists and good people don't hesitate to deplatform fascists.

Plus, you all know we're a huge pain in the ass.

[aussenseiter]

McDonald's is adding two new dipping sauces (https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/mcdonalds-adding-two-new-dipping-sauces/)

The first new addition is a sweet and spicy sauce that McDonald's describes in a release as a "jammy red pepper sauce with a tongue-numbing Szechuan peppercorn kick and extra heat from cayenne pepper." It's the first-ever "breakfast-inspired" dipping sauce to be served at its US restaurants.

The second is a "mambo sauce," which is a tomato-based sweet, spicy and vinegary sauce that's inspired by a type of sauce that's popular in Washington, DC. Previously, rival KFC briefly sold a mambo sauce at some of its locations in 2021, with the chicken chain describing it as being "synonymous with Black DC food culture" since its creation in the 1950s.

[unsunghero]

Memes

[Origen]

Not all disagreements are phobias, but your himbo-based transphobia sure is.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

If you need your spine adjusted, I highly recommend 8/2/80. That entire shit is messed up and full of shenanigans. Aud only. Adds to the spice. Pretty close tbh.

[Origen]

McDonald's is adding two new dipping sauces (https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/mcdonalds-adding-two-new-dipping-sauces/)You enable them on this forum daily, the Lord is displeased with you personally

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[unsunghero]

Not all disagreements are phobias, but your himbo-based transphobia sure is.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists.

Memes

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Fun fact.

The technological strengths of fascism were the utilization of radio and the still-new public address system. Goebbels purposely recruited radio broadcasters in the 1930's, and organized the development of an affordable radio that every family could afford (much as would be done later with the automobile). The PA system turns the histrionic bellowing of a modest looking man into the Voice of God.

That's how it works. Fascism always needs a set of technological instruments which are *heavily* used to cultivate the fascist spectacle.

It's always machines. Loud machines. Mussolini loved fast cars, and Italy to this day loves fast cars too, fascists in spirit to the end.

It would take a decade after the defeat of European fascism for Americans to create the predictable opposite reaction: rock and roll. Both the radio and the PA system became the instruments, not of hate, but of mass rituals of dance and liberation.

But still fascist.




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https://i.imgur.com/sWhRuWM.jpg

[Seducio]

All I have to say about this thread is that it appears the USA education system is working as intended. OP could go on to get many letters after his name if he really wanted to never be taken seriously by anyone else ever again as an adult.

In other news. You all should try this elf sim called p99 - it's an old school classic everquest emulated server where you get to have fun with friends.

[aussenseiter]

You enable them on this forum daily, the Lord is displeased with you personally

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

https://i.giphy.com/media/4560Nv2656Gv0Lvp9F/giphy.webp

[Swish]

Close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists and good people don't hesitate to deplatform fascists.

Plus, you all know we're a huge pain in the ass.



https://i.imgur.com/MQKLKMz.png

[Origen]

https://i.imgur.com/MQKLKMz.pngIf your fun resembles fascist talking points, then I definitely hope something worse happens to you than cessation of said fun

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[unsunghero]

All I have to say about this thread is that it appears the USA education system is working as intended. OP could go on to get many letters after his name if he really wanted to never be taken seriously by anyone else ever again as an adult.

In other news. You all should try this elf sim called p99 - it's an old school classic everquest emulated server where you get to have fun with friends.

I haven’t logged in in ~4 days but I still playing. Level 58 1 bubble from 59. Ima get 60 eventually. If ya wanna duo on green DM me

OP doesn’t play but he should, he has a 54ish druid on green

[magnetaress]

Says people need a safe space... doesn't want people he or she to have a safe space...

[Botten]

Posting in epic thread! Hope it gets as large as the previous largest thread!

[Origen]

Posting in epic thread! Hope it gets as large as the previous largest thread!It's not that epic, I'll probably start posting gay porn eventually

[Origen]

Says people need a safe space... doesn't want people he or she to have a safe space...I don't want fascists to have a safe space anywhere at any time, and deplatforming fascists is cool and good

[unsunghero]

Lol

[Origen]

That's like getting mad at firefighters for talking about fire

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[unsunghero]

That's like getting mad at firefighters for talking about fire

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

Yea it’s their paid job. I’m sure they get home and hop on the fire forums lol

[unsunghero]

..,

[Origen]

Oh I can and will deplatform fascists for free, it's the civic duty of ethical people

Meanwhile, dudes like you and aussen are 1930's germany'ing it up in here. Thankfully, this is a meaningless corner of the internet.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[unsunghero]

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

I think if you make that your sig, you won’t have to re-type it as much. Just trying to be helpful ;)

[Seducio]

We the good people of Qeynos. We demand things. Also we're good because it's SonyEQ spelled backwards.

Anyway since we're the good people. That gives us moral high ground because we called dibs on being good. Also we demand you remove all the Norrathians with Freeport as their home point of origin.

Everyone knows the people from Freeport are cheats. Just hang out with their militia.

So we the people of Qeynos demand the powers that be in Norrath to remove the Freeport people.

For the good of the server

/s

[Origen]

Yeah but making it my sig won't bump the thread

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists.

[aussenseiter]

Oh I can and will deplatform fascists for free, it's the civic duty of ethical people

Meanwhile, dudes like you and aussen are 1930's germany'ing it up in here. Thankfully, this is a meaningless corner of the internet.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

Square your anti-US military wrong opinion with thinking you oppose fascism.

[magnetaress]

I hope origen writes congress about p99. Would love my ideas to reach people in powerful positions with a lot of experience with idiots.

[unsunghero]

Yeah but making it my sig won't bump the thread

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists.

I can help you bump it with my silly Paint98 phone app memes :)

[unsunghero]

^^^

[magnetaress]

Honestly a bit worried what would Origen do if this forum was actually closed. I would be worried about them.

It's clear some folks use this forum as a coping mechanism-addiction-source to fuel their own bias.

[unsunghero]

Honestly a bit worried what would Origen do if this forum was actually closed. I would be worried about them.

It's clear some folks use this forum as a coping mechanism-addiction-source to fuel their own bias.

Nah I think he’d be better off without it. Not much better, as I don’t think any detriment to his stress level from here is remotely significant. But slightly better off

But that’s just IMO

[magnetaress]

Yeah probably.

He should definitely update his hosts file.

Like idk.

I bored poast these days and Like to create creative posts about how to make the world perfect... more just creative writing... not really here to argue. Or debate. Or win...


Maybe a little affirmation is nice from time to time... a few lil anecdotes about the crazy "alien" life out there...


Other than that. I'm officially here to waste time. It does make me a lil sad to see origen hatin tho.

[Lune]

Honestly a bit worried what would Origen do if this forum was actually closed. I would be worried about them.

It's clear some folks use this forum as a coping mechanism-addiction-source to fuel their own bias.

Lune is the oldest remaining poster on this sub forum, I believe, or close, and Lune is still relatively sane

https://i.imgur.com/kQegjoA.gif

[magnetaress]

Yeah. I can vouch for u being fairly sane. I read ur posts and always say to myself "well thats actually reasonable" even if I didn't reply as such.

So good job!

[unsunghero]

Lune is the oldest remaining poster on this sub forum, I believe, or close, and Lune is still relatively sane

https://i.imgur.com/kQegjoA.gif

But not the oldest poster, I think Kaveh has that distinction. But dude sounds active IRL so can’t tell, I was surprised to hear his age

[Ooloo]

Lol "mods please act like fascists to stop the fascists who actually aren't fascists"

-the guy who consistently sounds more like a fascist than anyone else

[arvidez]

and good people don't hesitate to deplatform fascists.


i dated a girl that said stuff like this. so quick to close the airlock and jettison the souls to save his ship. except we aren't souls to his type, we are only malfunctioning objects.

[Origen]

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists.

If you think this is excessive you are too online and need to go outside and touch grass

[Origen]

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[arvidez]

i plug my ears, close my eyes, and babble literal nonsense when i am looking for answers i have no tools or data for. there are many mantras

[Toxigen]

op is one of those fuckin retards that support tranny story hour at the library for kids

[Origen]

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists such as Toxigen

[Origen]

Make any discussion of politics instantly bannable, the only people who will get mad about that are the people who don't deserve free speech

[magnetaress]

people don't deserve free speech

Lol

[Lune]

But not the oldest poster, I think Kaveh has that distinction. But dude sounds active IRL so can’t tell, I was surprised to hear his age

Nah I mean been around the longest. I'm 35. I suspect Sadre is the oldest but yea patriam is a geezer

The shit that used to be posted on these forums was pretty unbelievable before the Daybreak thing. Lots of doxxing, merciless bullying, slap fights, purely offensive shit. Mainly in RNF though. OP thinks it's bad now...

[Origen]

Fascists do not deserve free speech and rely on liberal understanding of the concept of free speech to spread their terrible mind virus.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists. Don't be complicit in this.

https://i.imgur.com/OHRPhmZ.jpeg

[magnetaress]

Origen, I challenge you to spend one whole day. 24 hrs away from the "messaging" of this forum. It's for your own good.

Journal about your day and give us the highlights later! No details please. I care for your privacy and pseudo-anonymity.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/ohyuI4M.gif

[Kaveh]

But not the oldest poster, I think Kaveh has that distinction. But dude sounds active IRL so can’t tell, I was surprised to hear his age

I’m from a land where obesity and any sinfulness is punished BIGLY so I plan to remain active well into my 70s, god willing. I am starting to notice that some leg work outs seem not worth it anymore though. And I’m staying at like ~280 on the bench press whereas even 5 years ago I could maintain ~315

But back on topic, Rob why are you calling people fascist over their stance on trans people bud? We didn’t even have the word “trans” in the language in this context 10 years ago, you can’t be serious

Edit: those weights are 1 rep maxes, I do not regularly lift that amount

[Kaveh]

Fascists do not deserve free speech and rely on liberal understanding of the concept of free speech to spread their terrible mind virus.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists. Don't be complicit in this.

https://i.imgur.com/OHRPhmZ.jpeg

This is very dumb dude

Silencing people will only convince them they are right and make them less open to differences of opinion. And oh btw they own all the guns and are the only ones still having kids

[Toxigen]

libcuck unhinged

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Lune is the oldest remaining poster on this sub forum, I believe, or close, and Lune is still relatively sane

https://i.imgur.com/kQegjoA.gif

https://i.imgur.com/hHYoMmk.jpg

[Ekco]

And oh btw they own all the guns and are the only ones still having kids

the problem does seem to eventually sort itself out.

https://i.imgur.com/FTre5S4.jpg

[Seducio]

Origen appears to relying on Marcuse's Repressive Tolerance version of morality. For the uninitiated, Repressive Tolerance means giving Free Speech to those on the left and not giving it to those perceived to be on the right. Who decides who is left or right? The lefty that's using the logic that's who.

He isn't following any sort of enlightenment style logic you would have learned if your a decent person. He's following the logic of a specific version of 60s progressivism that wanted to erase its opponents as enemies of earth. Marx, Marcuse, and Mao.

To follow through with this brilliant set of ideas all we need now are dunce caps, to abolish property rights, and watch as famines and criminality take over things. That way a propagandized dictatorship can can rise to promise us an easy fix.

Seems like a bright idea that only someone who missed 20th century history would embrace.

[Kaveh]

the problem does seem to eventually sort itself out.

https://i.imgur.com/FTre5S4.jpg

How do people get this fat

[Ooloo]

How do people get this fat

Hey those little debbie oatmeal pies are damn good I wish I had one right now

[Seducio]

How do people get fat

caloric intake > caloric expenditure

[Toxigen]

How do people get this fat

SoQNvpgDk9w

[Toxigen]

Hey Origen - lets start up the rotors

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aRj54jxYtIOx/

[Origen]

All fascists are cowards, look how they panic when they merely perceive someone suggesting a metaphorical version of their own medicine

This forum is a fascist-friendly sewer and should be closed. Even if the mods do it they'd be doing all of us a favor.

[Toxigen]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeee

https://i.imgur.com/edllauk.jpg

[aussenseiter]

Hey Origen - lets start up the rotors

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aRj54jxYtIOx/

You're helping him, stupid.

[Seducio]

fascists

Define fascists. Without using the word fascist or fascism. Are you talking Mussolini?

Did you have FOMO (fear of missing out) from not being part of the group of Americans, more than likely many US millennial folks grandpas, that invaded Italy and kicked some Fascist butt in WW2?

What are your thoughts on Antonio Gramsci. Is he you're working class hero?

[Origen]

iR4CLtUHD6g?si=x5Qr-GKAZi9Sak0v

[Seducio]

TLDR

In your words.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

This is very dumb dude

Silencing people will only convince them they are right and make them less open to differences of opinion. And oh btw they own all the guns and are the only ones still having kids

"Silencing people will only convince them they are right and make them less open to differences of opinion."

That's classic double speak.

They already aren't open to variety in opinion. They don't want to be open. They want to be left alone, frankly. The last 60 years of history needs to leave them be.
Silencing people works really well in k-12 actually. Some people, see, have the wrong answer. Or can't do the work. You do not invite them to the front of the class to give an airing of their views. They are wrong. End of story.
If you were or are, however, the sort of kid who thinks they know better than their teachers, and society at large, and history, please tell me how this life strategy works out for you. I understand prison stationary is pricey, so be precise.
Be out and proud. Just admit you are 21st century Amish.

[aussenseiter]

iR4CLtUHD6g?si=x5Qr-GKAZi9Sak0v

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1467643530-20160704.png

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And if you think this isn't k-12, I can't help you. People are arguing about stuff that can be learned in basic school. So, school is therefore not out.

That is what these forums are for. Remedial human.

Gender is a social construct and always has been. It's a big part of what a society does, is organize and create norms around gender roles.

If you debate that, you are in 10th grade still. Sorry. And, with other issues we can go down a similar line. There are established facts and definitions. If you debate that, you are stuck at grade X.

But nothing being debated here requires more than a high school education. USA.

[Seducio]

Sadre your paternalism is showing and if you want to re-parent yourself have at it. It's the age of information. The education system in USA creates the kind of ignorance that you will find in your typical non-critically thinking educator and student. Everything is debatable except with schoolteachers who went to educator school to conform to the same set of terrible lowest common denominator ideas that adults can see through in a heartbeat.

If you had kids of your own you'd be more wise than calling other adults kids.

[aussenseiter]

And if you think this isn't k-12, I can't help you. People are arguing about stuff that can be learned in basic school. So, school is therefore not out.

That is what these forums are for. Remedial human.

Gender is a social construct and always has been. It's a big part of what a society does, is organize and create norms around gender roles.

If you debate that, you are in 10th grade still. Sorry. And, with other issues we can go down a similar line. There are established facts and definitions. If you debate that, you are stuck at grade X.

But nothing being debated here requires more than a high school education. USA.

Video doesn't have a lick about Evola. Curious!

[Evia]

Lol “I hate fascists so bad!1 I’m going to force my moral authority down your throat no matter if you like it or not!1 because I know I am right!! Shut up I don’t care if you have an opinion or have something to say! You’re clearly a fascist and we don’t listen to those people! Lock them up! We don’t need a trial because we are the moral authority! We are anti fascist!”

You’d laugh if you were intelligent enough to pick up how ironic you look

[Swish]

Lune is the oldest remaining poster on this sub forum, I believe, or close, and Lune is still relatively sane


Off topic never did me any harm.

https://media.tenor.com/A9beRqnETysAAAAC/crazy-cat-insane-cat.gif

:)

[Origen]

I have read every post by every reactionary in this thread and the responses confirm I was right to post this thread and stand by every time I have ever called a Trump supporter a fascist.

Now, I'm going to church, and just a reminder: this forum is a safe space for fascists and should be permanently closed. Conservative hatred has no place in society and conservative ideology belongs on the same shelf as despotism

[Seducio]

I have read every post by every reactionary in this thread and the responses confirm I was right to post this thread and stand by every time I have ever called a Trump supporter a fascist.

Now, I'm going to church, and just a reminder: this forum is a safe space for fascists and should be permanently closed. Conservative hatred has no place in society and conservative ideology belongs on the same shelf as despotism

Enjoy talking to the big guy. He likes me. Say whats up.

Also America doesn't need one less party - way of looking at politics. It needs many more parties - ways of looking at politics.

Don't fight your way out son. Use the other four letter f word to procreate your way out.

[aussenseiter]

I have read every post by every reactionary in this thread and the responses confirm I was right to post this thread and stand by every time I have ever called a Trump supporter a fascist.

Now, I'm going to church, and just a reminder: this forum is a safe space for fascists and should be permanently closed. Conservative hatred has no place in society and conservative ideology belongs on the same shelf as despotism

Reactionary is when you don't like seeing peoples heads get chopped off.

[Origen]

Reactionary is when you don't like seeing peoples heads get chopped off.Argue definitions with a slippery, obtuse pedant?

Nah

[Origen]

Okay good night. I'll pray for you all, even the fascists. Find your way back to the light before it is too late.

[zordie]

Just downloaded 1999 after contemplating it for 6 months. Come to check out the fourms and see what servers are good and this is the first post i see. LOL

[Duik]

Praying for me insinuates you dont approve of gods plan for me. Yeah have little faith!

[aussenseiter]

Argue definitions with a slippery, obtuse pedant?

Nah

That's the origin, like the hit blockbuster film X-Men Origins: Wolverines now available to rent or buy starting at 3.99 on your favorite streaming service

[unsunghero]

Okay good night. I'll pray for you all, even the fascists. Find your way back to the light before it is too late.

I have definitely been blessed by Grace. Very few injuries, very few catastrophes in life

But I attributing it to grandma keeping me in her prayers tho

[magnetaress]

Praying for me insinuates you dont approve of gods plan for me. Yeah have little faith!

Not only that. This Origen dude thinks they "are the light". Heh.

[Ooloo]

I have read every post by every reactionary in this thread and the responses confirm I was right to post this thread and stand by every time I have ever called a Trump supporter a fascist.

Now, I'm going to church, and just a reminder: this forum is a safe space for fascists and should be permanently closed. Conservative hatred has no place in society and conservative ideology belongs on the same shelf as despotism

Alternatively, leave the forum open cause it's fine and there are no fascists and everything is totally fine.

You live in a fever dream of lib propaganda. And I mean, everyone consumes propaganda of some type to an extent, it's a question of how influenced you are by it and you seem to be at the hallucinating nazis everywhere point. Get a grip man it's gonna be okay.

[Origen]

Only a person who supports fascism would claim there is no fascism problem. US conservatives have a fascism problem and it is getting worse. The evidence is undeniable.

Lie to yourself if you want, here in this safe space for fascists, but no rational person believes you.

I will pray for you all. Return to the light before it is too late.

[Toxigen]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[arvidez]

Only a person who supports fascism would claim there is no fascism problem. US conservatives have a fascism problem and it is getting worse. The evidence is undeniable.

Lie to yourself if you want, here in this safe space for fascists, but no rational person believes you.

I will pray for you all. Return to the light before it is too late.

probably wrong but i lmfao'd imagining what you are saying to god.

[Origen]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeI pity you, and I hope you find the courage to become a decent person someday

[Lune]

They will see the light before the end

UulEsFPhIjY

Or maybe not I dunno

[Origen]

They will see the light before the end

UulEsFPhIjY

Or maybe not I dunnoHehe. Good video.

When I rail against capitalist excess and the reactionary right's blatant embrace of fascism, I am not expecting to blow the lid off a conspiracy. For all their talk of things like "the Deep State" they fail to - or won't let themselves - notice that it's just Capital. That's it. It's just the wealthy carrying out class war and fulfilling their darkest fantasies because they can, and they control the legal system so they'll never hold themselves accountable in any widespread way.

The closest thing to an answer to this is to do the thing they obviously do not want us to do: be socialists

[Landroval]

What's wrong with a people owning their own means of production for their exclusive benefit? The difference between fascism and socialism is scope; national or international. The international Jew despises fascism because it doesn't benefit himself.

[Origen]

Ooloo look at the above post and tell me there are no racists on the right

[Landroval]

Oh I can and will deplatform fascists for free, it's the civic duty of ethical people

Meanwhile, dudes like you and aussen are 1930's germany'ing it up in here. Thankfully, this is a meaningless corner of the internet.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

You don't define what is ethical. How about a little humility there, hitler.

[aussenseiter]

Hehe. Good video.

When I rail against capitalist excess and the reactionary right's blatant embrace of fascism, I am not expecting to blow the lid off a conspiracy. For all their talk of things like "the Deep State" they fail to - or won't let themselves - notice that it's just Capital. That's it. It's just the wealthy carrying out class war and fulfilling their darkest fantasies because they can, and they control the legal system so they'll never hold themselves accountable in any widespread way.

The closest thing to an answer to this is to do the thing they obviously do not want us to do: be socialists

I think it means unelected appointees to independent federal agencies, mostly executive agencies. (EC: Chevron Deference).

Nixon smash.

[Origen]

It must really chap your ass that you don't have the balls to use slurs.

Sorry you're failing the social integrity test, fascist, but only you can fix that. I'll pray that you return to the light.

[Landroval]

I think it means unelected appointees to independent federal agencies, mostly executive agencies. (EC: Chevron Deference).

Nixon smash.

"Capital" is a dog whistle for the Levitical class possessing that wealth.

[Ooloo]

Ooloo look at the above post and tell me there are no racists on the right

I never said that for one thing, for another thing I've disavowed his 'god damn jews' stuff before. But I don't think he should be banned either much less this forum be closed- I want to know what people really think.

There are laws regarding speech for a reason. Unless somebody is breaking an actual law or being endlessly spammy I don't think anyone should be banned for what they post on this or any other platform.

[Toxigen]

reeeeeee people use words i dont like....this place cannot exist!

also: khazar milkers

[Origen]

I never said that for one thing, for another thing I've disavowed his 'god damn jews' stuff before. But I don't think he should be banned either much less this forum be closed- I want to know what people really think.

There are laws regarding speech for a reason. Unless somebody is breaking an actual law or being endlessly spammy I don't think anyone should be banned for what they post on this or any other platform.The neoliberal holds open the door for fascists. The neoliberal believes in free speech when fascists want the right to speech, but disbelieves in free speech when it's trans people merely speaking about their lives.

Incredible, unignorable hypocrisy yet again from my favorite forums reactionary.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[Landroval]

The neoliberal holds open the door for fascists. The neoliberal believes in free speech when fascists want the right to speech, but disbelieves in free speech when it's trans people merely speaking about their lives.

Incredible, unignorable hypocrisy yet again from my favorite forums reactionary.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

What he's implying is that if people are allowed to speak, they'll naturally come to antisemitic conclusions; it's called a tacit admission.

Kinda of like how if you closed people in a room long enough with tons of right triangles of different lengths and widths, they'd eventually come to formulate some other mathematical theorem, with consensus, than the Pythagorean Theorem that sternly opposes the truth of the Pythagorean Theorem.

"....the chutzpah on this guy"

[Ekco]

The neoliberal holds open the door for fascists. The neoliberal believes in free speech when fascists want the right to speech, but disbelieves in free speech when it's trans people merely speaking about their lives.

Incredible, unignorable hypocrisy yet again from my favorite forums reactionary.

Mods, close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

>It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history.
-Liberalism (1927)

Fascism saved European civilization from Socialism.

:^)

[Origen]

Lmao, look at the reactionaries scramble. Tough to watch. This is clearly not their game, bunch of Reddit-level "acktually" garbage.

I'll pray for all of you. Return to the light and truth.

[Landroval]

Nah, bro, that's what you implied.

"If actual free speech is allowed, people will naturally become increasingly antisemitic, which inevitably leads to pogroms"

Like people wiill naturally become antisemitic, if they're allowed to discuss what we(ve) do(ne)

[Ekco]

wtf they just nuked the politics thread.

anyone watching impeachment inquiry?

DIvCY6VvZaU

[Origen]

Redditors, lol

[Homesteaded]

lol

Keep closing threads for "reasons".

[Horza]

Nah, bro, that's what you implied.

"If actual free speech is allowed, people will naturally become increasingly antisemitic, which inevitably leads to pogroms"

Like people wiill naturally become antisemitic, if they're allowed to discuss what we(ve) do(ne)

They just locked the politics thread because of rampant bigotry, and you're already saying everyone should obviously be antisemitic just like you?

[Homesteaded]

Judge claims Mar a Lago is worth 18M to try and pinch him on "fraud" they are really reaching for anything to stick at this point.

The way back, is the way forward.

[Homesteaded]

They just locked the politics thread because of rampant bigotry, and you're already saying everyone should obviously be antisemitic just like you?

Rampant bigotry. Ok powder puff.

[Landroval]

Ban hammers incoming. Who is Landroval taking down with him?

[arvidez]

rampant sounds like fun for a safe place like this )

[arvidez]

not suprised horza..move to rant

[aussenseiter]

>It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history.
-Liberalism (1927)

Fascism saved European civilization from Socialism.

:^)

A benevolent despot is still a despot.

[Landroval]

For the record, his jumping off Origen back to Horza after going full retard was because I said I wasn't racist, I just don't like jews. Everyone else is fine. I didn't say I want to do anything about that dislike or any of the other hyperbole. I just don't appreciate you bro.

Why's that such a deal breaker on the whole socialism thing?

[Toxigen]

The cool thing is you can dislike anyone you want.

[aussenseiter]

What he's implying is that if people are allowed to speak, they'll naturally come to antisemitic conclusions; it's called a tacit admission.

Kinda of like how if you closed people in a room long enough with tons of right triangles of different lengths and widths, they'd eventually come to formulate some other mathematical theorem, with consensus, than the Pythagorean Theorem that sternly opposes the truth of the Pythagorean Theorem.

"....the chutzpah on this guy"

That doesn't mean those conclusions are correct.

[Horza]

For the record, his jumping off Origen back to Horza after going full retard was because I said I wasn't racist, I just don't like jews. Everyone else is fine. I didn't say I want to do anything about that dislike or any of the other hyperbole. I just don't appreciate you bro.

Why's that such a deal breaker on the whole socialism thing?

You think rob and I are the same guy? I guess most of you racists are pretty fucking stupid.

[Horza]

The cool thing is you can dislike anyone you want.

I said I wasn't racist, I just don't like jews. Everyone else is fine

Anyone ever tell you guys that you sound like a broken record?

[unsunghero]

but disbelieves in free speech when it's trans people merely speaking about their lives.


Trans people can’t speak about their lives here? News to me

Might need to clarify you mean some states are passing laws about it being discussed in school, and don’t give a shit about anywhere else, to my knowledge

Sounds like someone’s being purposefully obtuse huh

[Landroval]

The cool thing is you can dislike anyone you want.

Yeah I'm not a fan of Ferengis either, for a lot of the same reasons.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Yeah I'm not a fan of Ferengis either, for a lot of the same reasons.

Frank Sinatra Jr. wants to know if this thread wants to close the lights.

It's a giant catapult ball of stop the fascism for the sake of all that is right, and we already established, no European fascism no American rock and roll, so clearly we are not even thinking historically one iota.

The only point could be, stop it now in its current form or forms. Why? We got rock and roll last time. Those PA systems were not gonna play themselves.

[magnetaress]

See a "trans" person who has a big F for female on their license and passport does speak up here.

Butt apparently they are "F"ascists because k-12 isn't a good place to discuss transitioning and kids shouldn't have to obsess over pronouns. And because homelessness, disease, and addiction is more of a choice than people would like to admit. Oh, and gender studies isn't really science. It's more like a religion or philosophy. Than people would like to admit.


Butt hey that trans person is the "bad guy" when "they" genuinely speak from their heart and say seek christ! Hate and obsess less.

This is why I no longer consider myself liberal or progressive.

[Origen]

Trans people can’t speak about their lives here? News to me

Might need to clarify you mean some states are passing laws about it being discussed in school, and don’t give a shit about anywhere else, to my knowledge

Sounds like someone’s being purposefully obtuse huhI'm talking about violent rhetoric from people like Matt Walsh, dingus. It is meant to, and does, result in real-world violence and that is the point of a lot of conservative hate speech.

[magnetaress]

Yeah. Well. You're not helping.

[Origen]

Oh please, this is the polite version of my personal ideology. That's why I keep praying for you lost souls.

[aussenseiter]

I'm talking about violent rhetoric from people like Matt Walsh, dingus. It is meant to, and does, result in real-world violence and that is the point of a lot of conservative hate speech.

I don't watch him but I bet he says a lot of crazy things to sell dick vitamins or whatever.

[Landroval]

Oh please, this is the polite version of my personal ideology. That's why I keep praying for you lost souls.

We already know what the un-polite version is too. It's detailed in the Protocols.

[unsunghero]

I'm talking about violent rhetoric from people like Matt Walsh, dingus. It is meant to, and does, result in real-world violence and that is the point of a lot of conservative hate speech.

Matt Walsh posts here?

[unsunghero]

I can’t even remember the last time someone linked a Matt walsh vid tbh

[Landroval]

Matt Walsh posts here?

Everything's a valid exception to the slippery slope fallacy, except when you criticize his intentions as a slippery slope; then it's a fallacy

[magnetaress]

I didn't know he existed because I ignore hate porn lol.

Mostly :o

Like I didn't learn about him here until just now. What one hateful little person does or says doesn't rule my life, or likely effect it one way or the other.

Jesus Christ is far more important to me.

[unsunghero]

Everything's a valid exception to the slippery slope fallacy, except when you criticize his intentions as a slippery slope; then it's a fallacy

I’m just trying to figure out when anyone posted something saying trans people should not be allowed to discuss their lives to anyone

[Landroval]

I didn't know who he was till I googled him. The Internet is for playing EQ on. I don't use it for keeping up to date with e-celeb grifters.

[Landroval]

I’m just trying to figure out when anyone posted something saying trans people should not be allowed to discuss their lives to anyone

I'll give you a 5plat at the end of the day one on Quarm if you can find the quote in your quest to search the archives for this gem, but as usual it's probably just Horza projecting his imaginary arguments out upon the rest of us, like a street screaming meth-zombie yelling at cars commuting to work at 5am. You know how Canadians, scratch that, Georgians, scratch that, Homos, scratch that, aboriginal pygmy transracial midgets, scratch that, Jews are. Very chameleonlike.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I still say a k-12 education that isn't invested in coddling sectarian reality accommodations dissolves everything this forum currently argues about.

Some people here clearly got educated. Others, I can basically peg where you dropped out of the data flow. You think I am kidding?

None of these are adult debates. You have to be willfully ignorant of what we know, to post what the "Make the 20th Century Go Away!" folks post. And it's 2023.

So stale. You guys gonna still be arguing about trannies in the nursing homes. Technology now gives human beings the ability to fuck with their gender characteristics and their sexual organs themselves. That's called Popular Mechanics 2023.

Watch. It's funny if you just adopt a technological determinist perspective. Soon, scientists and industry will figure out a way to turn hormonal states on and off. People will transition several times, perhaps.

Meanwhile, all the current trannies will be pissed, just like old school feminists are currently pissed. "You can't just become things like that back and forth!"

(Do posters here realize most older feminists are anti-trans? And are shedding tears on the regular just like the Christocrats?)

Humans orbit the potentials of their technology. Which is developing toward a singularity.

https://i.imgur.com/NhzTC4Y.jpg

[aussenseiter]

I still say a k-12 education that isn't invested in coddling sectarian reality accommodations dissolves everything this forum currently argues about.

Some people here clearly got educated. Others, I can basically peg where you dropped out of the data flow. You think I am kidding?

None of these are adult debates. You have to be willfully ignorant of what we know, to post what the "Make the 20th Century Go Away!" folks post. And it's 2023.

So stale. You guys gonna still be arguing about trannies in the nursing homes. Technology now gives human beings the ability to fuck with their gender characteristics and their sexual organs themselves. That's called Popular Mechanics 2023.

Watch. It's funny if you just adopt a technological determinist perspective. Soon, scientists and industry will figure out a way to turn hormonal states on and off. People will transition several times, perhaps.

Meanwhile, all the current trannies will be pissed, just like old school feminists are currently pissed. "You can't just become things like that back and forth!"

(Do posters here realize most older feminists are anti-trans? And are shedding tears on the regular just like the Christocrats?)

Humans orbit the potentials of their technology. Which is developing toward a singularity.

https://i.imgur.com/NhzTC4Y.jpg

Immortality isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[Seducio]

None of these are adult debates.

I am in agreement that its really hard to consider many p99 forum people adults capable of debate. Other than that though your comment seems like you place too much emphasis on the results that stem from education prior to university. If you talk to high school graduates you will discover they are hip to cultural trends rather than being in any place of moral sophistication.

On the other hand if you mean that the current hot button topics of modern politics aren't debatable then you have drifted into authoritarianism even if it doesn't have any bite since you are a forum dweller rather than a Govt operative. History would indicate authoritarianism can come from either the left or the right and stems from silencing political opposition into submission.

Using language is a human technology. It is a way for humans from different cultures to connect, share ideas, and challenge preconceived notions. New technologies don't always replace old ones. And just because we have the technological power to do something doesn't make it always a good idea to do. We have nuclear weapons but the use of them would be devastating.

You aren't interacting on these forums with a steelman.

[magnetaress]

Ya. Well. You don't gotta be edumacated to vote, own property, or operate vehicles and modern weapons. You basically just need to be a youtubby thott. With a sponsor.

Lol.

[Seducio]

Magnetaress, in no way am I knocking the university of hard knocks. Every human learns in their own way and you won't find an apologist for modern academia in me. The 'Evergreening' of the modern American Ivory Tower is not something good for anyone including those that are part of that movement. The Marcusian/Gramscian/Dutschke 'Long March thru the Institutions' is nearly complete in the academy and most Americans are clueless about that and its meaning.

I'm calling out Sadre's claim that the debates happening here on these forums are beneath anyone with what we call a K-12 education. Sadre is claiming that having a new styled k-12 education in place - especially if it came from an educational environment that doesn't pander to a Judea-Christian morality - will makes these debates mute and obsolete.

Sadre's perspective appears similar to anyone on the inside of modern academia. Others with different viewpoints are not welcome to challenge the paradigm. To have career success in an ivory tower setting it makes sense to virtue signal values everyone shares that you are on the 'right side of history' like other academics. Sadly this creates an echo chamber that others not caught up in needing to virtue signal at the academy can see through. This is much to the chagrin of folks like Sadre who have broken recorded themselves into a belief system they adopted from other colleagues merely to fit in.

[Evia]

all our school systems did was create a generation of kids who are really good at repeating information someone else provided for them.

they're incapable of critical thinking, or thinking for themselves, because the k-12 system beats it out of them. There is always someone else who has done the work for you and has already found the answer. The students job is to stop questioning it and accept that, then regurgitate what they've been told and shown.

Now we have a society filled with adults with 'degrees' and none of them have any real skills or are capable of thinking for themselves. The answer is they wanna cry and whine to big daddy gov to forgive their debt
because they weren't smart enough to realize the loans they were getting were predatory in nature.

...and this is our elite and educated class ladies and gentlemen.....

its no fucking wonder america is in decline

[Origen]

all our school systems did was create a generation of kids who are really good at repeating information someone else provided for them.

they're incapable of critical thinking, or thinking for themselves, because the k-12 system beats it out of them. There is always someone else who has done the work for you and has already found the answer. The students job is to stop questioning it and accept that, then regurgitate what they've been told and shown.

Now we have a society filled with adults with 'degrees' and none of them have any real skills or are capable of thinking for themselves. The answer is they wanna cry and whine to big daddy gov to forgive their debt
because they weren't smart enough to realize the loans they were getting were predatory in nature.

...and this is our elite and educated class ladies and gentlemen.....

its no fucking wonder america is in declinehttps://i.imgur.com/75fvwCr.jpeg

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/UyYtAVv.jpg

[Seducio]

https://i.imgur.com/75fvwCr.jpeg

Nah. The West is a military alliance. Let me know when that fails. It doesn't exist as any kind of cultural monolith in the way some perceive it to whether you are propagandized from the right or propagandized from the left. Anyone that perceives the west as monoolithic such needs to walk down their street in Anytown USA, talk to five different neighbors/strangers, and open their eyes.

The west just another long con economic game. Like other capitalistic economies around the world. The grand steal. In response to historically world level riches US has accumulated - those that have adopted the politics of envy, socialists, want a piece of the pie because it looks delicious. Socialists typically will target successful capitalist societies because they want the riches for themselves. Remember when you were a kid playing with your own toy and enjoying your time? A socialist is the person who sees that good time, wants 'your toy', and tells the teacher he should have a turn with 'your toy' and then cries until it happens. The socialist will use whatever means of social manipulation available to get it. Accusations, lies, claims of victoomhood to secure false empathy, and others are just the tip of the iceberg.

But historically it's been proven time and time again that they underestimate both their own selfishness and the unending perseverance of those that they attack.

A capitalist creates rules that steal your time and undervalue your worth. A socialist believes that what you have isn't yours.

As far as the academy in the west. The smart play right now if you had a son would be to train him to be a leader of college educated and trained obedient folks. Hiring college grads has never been cheaper. Families with boys are just going to stop sending their smart kids, in particular boys, to university if they continue be treated as they currently are there. Less then 40% of 18 teen year old Freshman undergrads are boys currently and declines each year. The education industry is headed toward a revenue crisis that only their accountants know about and they are told to shut since it doesn't fit the narrative.

Current universities are openly hostile to boys, men, and success in general. Universities dictate your morality, will tell you your parents suck at living in the world the way they were raised, and give you skills nobody wants and that you will forget upon graduation, all while placing in you debt for the next 10 years effectively stealing from your future.

If you are a man and do display any kind of opinion that is not accepted at the academy prepare for the worst. When you display your lettered education to others you will quickly learn that is a bad idea. Instead you are supposed to obey what your supposed betters - the elites - tell you to believe. When you are told to take a medical shot. You take a medical shot. No questions. Just Obey. When you are told the world is ending. You believe the world is ending. No questions. Just Obey. You basically graduate into a paradigm of never needing to think for yourself ever again.

Eventually though you meet a human who can think

[Origen]

It was a joke. Unfortunately, the west is alive and well, despite the reactionary tendency to gripe and bloviate about things they don't understand.

At some point the extremely online rightoid became convinced that "many words = smart" because of the Ben Shapiros of this world.

[Toxigen]

Unfortunately, the west is alive and well,

hey fuckwad, why dont you go live in some communist shithole then and gtfo

we dont need libcuck soy drinking pussy men like you anyway

[Origen]

I guess Toxigen only wants big, macho sweaty dudes around for some crazy reason. I support you in your homoerotic fantasy, bro, I'm an ally.

[Seducio]

It was a joke. Unfortunately, the west is alive and well, despite the reactionary tendency to gripe and bloviate about things they don't understand.

At some point the extremely online rightoid became convinced that "many words = smart" because of the Ben Shapiros of this world.

I have yet to see you say or do anything that would convince me I'm interacting with a man of intelligence. Feel free to do so at this time. As in your out of your league more than likely.

Let me give you an example. It's voting day 2024. You and I switch places. We both enter the voting booth and have to vote as if we were each other.

I know exactly how you will vote. I'd get your votes down 100% if I were you.

You would fail miserably at guessing who I vote for.

[Origen]

I am not here to impress people with my supposed intelligence, my self-image isn't that fragile. Y'all just keep playing checkers though.

[Seducio]

Origen, when was the last time you changed your mind?

What was it that the other person said or did that caused you to have a new perspective.

Give an example.

[Origen]

I used to be an agnostic. I am not anymore. The Lord saved someone important to me, via modern technology.

[Seducio]

That's cool. Do you think you can convince other people that are agnostic to change their belief system?

[Toxigen]

Origen when was the last time you ate a steak or did some deadlifts?

[Origen]

Probably not. I acquired faith through trauma, and I've read that it isn't the most enduring form of faith. But I'm not a preacher. That isn't my wheelhouse. Never tried, not terribly interested in trying.

I'd sooner try to convince someone to help out at a homeless shelter than go to a church and pray for the Lord to help the homeless.

[Seducio]

Probably not. I acquired faith through trauma, and I've read that it isn't the most enduring form of faith. But I'm not a preacher. That isn't my wheelhouse. Never tried, not terribly interested in trying.

I'd sooner try to convince someone to help out at a homeless shelter than go to a church and pray for the Lord to help the homeless.

Well that's good humility on trying to change others beliefs as far as religion. I would suggest that trying to change others beliefs with regard to politics is similar.

Changing beliefs in general can happen from within kind of like you did. Or from without and if from without typically force is involved. Nobody likes that except bullying types.

As far as convincing others to help with in-need-people you would rather see get help rather than merely relying on prayer alone, well, that indicates maturity. You have the ability to help those who share a value structure / end goal perhaps better than those who might have a different value structure / end goal. The fact that you have awareness of what was required for your beliefs to change should inform you how much it would take for something like that to happen in others.

[Origen]

When I post the things that I do at the reactionaries on this forum, my intention is not to change the mind of the reactionary. I don't know that I can do that with a post.

Reactionary ideology is built to proof the reactionary against just such a scenario, that's what the knee-jerk reaction to truth that counters a reactionary belief is meant to prevent.

No, the reactionaries will have to come to the reasonable and ask for their forgiveness, someday. And they should likely be forgiven out of Humanist tendencies, if nothing else. Many won't, many will, hopefully enough will before capitalism destroys the Earth's ability to host human life. Maybe the technocrats will come up with an alternative that saves many people, but when I look at dudes like Elon Musk leading that charge I am not filled with hope.

[Lune]

In WW2, many atrocities were committed by paramilitary police units like the Einsatzgruppen. These were overwhelmingly made up of regular-ass, middle class German family men who were trying not to get sent to the Eastern front. Most received training heavy on political programming and desensitization to the violence they would be committing against civilian men, women, and children. Others didn't. Some of the most prolific killers were that second group.

There were several institutional tactics to get them started on these atrocities that I won't go into here, but once they got started, the vast majority bought in whole-heartedly to what they saw as a 'duty'.

After the war, when the German legal system started coming after these people, what they encountered were mass-murderers who saw themselves as victims. In their minds, the atrocities they committed were legal when they committed them, under the laws of the German Reich. They were "just doing what they were told to do by their country". So when they were being prosecuted, the overwhelming sentiment was "poor me", or "why are they going after me for following the orders of my country and doing my duty to the Reich?"

Almost none of these people ever changed their minds, even in the face of overwhelming external condemnation both from within their own society, and from the entire rest of the West. They carried their lack of guilt to their graves. This is one reason why cults are so fastidious. A human being's sense of duty to their perceived in-group and immediate cohort is so overwhelmingly strong as to be virtually unassailable by 'outside' influence. Likely because this was extremely adaptive during our evolution.

The rare person who can divest themselves from their own psychological attachment to a belief are, in my mind, the only ones qualified for the highest levels of science or any other type of leadership. Fundamentally, this is the skill that underlies the scientific method, as well as being useful as a voter. I wish we had some assessment with any degree of construct validity to weed people without this skill out of science and other fields.

[magnetaress]

In WW2, many atrocities were committed by paramilitary police units like the Einsatzgruppen. These were overwhelmingly made up of regular-ass, middle class German family men who were trying not to get sent to the Eastern front. Most received training heavy on political programming and desensitization to the violence they would be committing against civilian men, women, and children. Others didn't. Some of the most prolific killers were that second group.

There were several institutional tactics to get them started on these atrocities that I won't go into here, but once they got started, the vast majority bought in whole-heartedly to what they saw as a 'duty'.

After the war, when the German legal system started coming after these people, what they encountered were mass-murderers who saw themselves as victims. In their minds, the atrocities they committed were legal when they committed them, under the laws of the German Reich. They were "just doing what they were told to do by their country". So when they were being prosecuted, the overwhelming sentiment was "poor me", or "why are they going after me for following the orders of my country and doing my duty to the Reich?"

Almost none of these people ever changed their minds, even in the face of overwhelming external condemnation both from within their own society, and from the entire rest of the West. They carried their lack of guilt to their graves. This is one reason why cults are so fastidious. A human being's sense of duty to their perceived in-group and immediate cohort is so overwhelmingly strong as to be virtually unassailable by 'outside' influence. Likely because this was extremely adaptive during our evolution.

The rare person who can divest themselves from their own psychological attachment to a belief are, in my mind, the only ones qualified for the highest levels of science or any other type of leadership. Fundamentally, this is the skill that underlies the scientific method, as well as being useful as a voter. I wish we had some assessment with any degree of construct validity to weed people without this skill out of science and other fields.

Yeah you can't do anything to give people forgiveness or redemption.

Consider it like the borg. Most are casualties if they where able to be good in the first place is debatable.

The trick is in not enabling or empowering said people or affirming their beliefs. Like by not rioting mindlessly and looting. Which just justifies and affirms the built in evolutionary bias vs the "other". "Them townies over the hill!" Whatever.

There are always going to be exceptions. Never the rule. And it's not really in anyone's control whether that exception can even exist. Circumstances can help. Butt still really not enough to tip the scales.

The best defense is the most *****effective ***** offense. I can tell you democrats are terrible about strategy and tactics and bleeding hearts make for poor soldiers to keep the basic instinctual animals in line.

No one of sound and right mind is going to follow Kamala Harris into battle. Buttt... that is what they want and are trying to force.

They. Want antifa to get themselves killed and make the MAGA dudes feel proud.

They. Are using you.

[unsunghero]

When I post the things that I do at the reactionaries on this forum, my intention is not to change the mind of the reactionary. I don't know that I can do that with a post.

Reactionary ideology is built to proof the reactionary against just such a scenario, that's what the knee-jerk reaction to truth that counters a reactionary belief is meant to prevent.

No, the reactionaries will have to come to the reasonable and ask for their forgiveness, someday. And they should likely be forgiven out of Humanist tendencies, if nothing else. Many won't, many will, hopefully enough will before capitalism destroys the Earth's ability to host human life. Maybe the technocrats will come up with an alternative that saves many people, but when I look at dudes like Elon Musk leading that charge I am not filled with hope.

Talks about truth and not knee jerk bullshit

Says people here say or post that trans people shouldn’t be allowed to talk about their life to anyone

When asked for proof says “but Muh Matt Walsh” as if anyone here has actually posted some Matt Walsh vids about trans people in the past years

[Origen]

I am not going to do any reactionary the huge favor of me digging through their posts just to throw their words back at them. That's an exercise in futility. They don't care if their current words contradict their former words, so why the hell should I?

You're expecting debate club nonsense again. I don't do that. Zoom out. Go outside. Stop watching Youtube videos.

[Seducio]

In WW2, many atrocities were committed by paramilitary police units like the Einsatzgruppen. These were overwhelmingly made up of regular-ass, middle class German family men who were trying not to get sent to the Eastern front. Most received training heavy on political programming and desensitization to the violence they would be committing against civilian men, women, and children. Others didn't. Some of the most prolific killers were that second group.

There were several institutional tactics to get them started on these atrocities that I won't go into here, but once they got started, the vast majority bought in whole-heartedly to what they saw as a 'duty'.

After the war, when the German legal system started coming after these people, what they encountered were mass-murderers who saw themselves as victims. In their minds, the atrocities they committed were legal when they committed them, under the laws of the German Reich. They were "just doing what they were told to do by their country". So when they were being prosecuted, the overwhelming sentiment was "poor me", or "why are they going after me for following the orders of my country and doing my duty to the Reich?"

Almost none of these people ever changed their minds, even in the face of overwhelming external condemnation both from within their own society, and from the entire rest of the West. They carried their lack of guilt to their graves. This is one reason why cults are so fastidious. A human being's sense of duty to their perceived in-group and immediate cohort is so overwhelmingly strong as to be virtually unassailable by 'outside' influence. Likely because this was extremely adaptive during our evolution.

The rare person who can divest themselves from their own psychological attachment to a belief are, in my mind, the only ones qualified for the highest levels of science or any other type of leadership. Fundamentally, this is the skill that underlies the scientific method, as well as being useful as a voter. I wish we had some assessment with any degree of construct validity to weed people without this skill out of science and other fields.

Ya beliefs are a trip. Every human I've ever met has literally had to change their belief system as they moved through life simply by being alive. It happens so subtle beneath awareness though that many don't give attention to how their biological system wraps tightly around the belief like an anaconda with a death grip to their given religious or chosen pollical system. They just forget the earliest stages of imprinting and trust that were involved to get them on board and resist looking at the world differently.

Usually if someone has changed their belief system in their lifetime there is a corresponding awareness that most other folks are stuck in a singular set of beliefs and no amount of finagling with them will get them out of it. That's with reasonable ways like with talking, debate, and back and forth. Beliefs don't change that way. With the unethical ways Lune didn't want to get into, they can. Everyone on earth that has been exposed to media has been exposed to some Psych Op or another. The ability to see past ones own belief system is a tough lesson to deliver.

It would be a wonderful world if the scientific community were only made up of the people you describe Lune. There are many great and humble scientists that are capable of true dis-interested inquiry and discovery. These days it seems rare though.

Much - though definitely not all - of science these days seems connected to keeping funding pathways alive for universities, research institutions, and research programs for groups of people whose careers are connected to growing their bottom line of their particular outfit rather than increasing the knowledge base of science. For instance why String Theory is still being studied in physics departments rather than having been shifted to Math depts has everything to do with funding. The fact that String Theory has long been determined to be outside the realm of empiricism and can never be tested doesn't matter even though that disqualifies it as a science. Sadly much of science is regulatorily captured in similar ways.

[unsunghero]

I am not going to do any reactionary the huge favor of me digging through their posts just to throw their words back at them. That's an exercise in futility. They don't care if their current words contradict their former words, so why the hell should I?

You're expecting debate club nonsense again. I don't do that. Zoom out. Go outside. Stop watching Youtube videos.

Now he gets specific? Before it was “people here who support trans people not being allowed to talk about their life”

Then it was Matt Walsh. Then it was my posts

Then he says he won’t dig because he knows it doesn’t exist. Shit, he could go back years and wouldn’t find me posting any Matt Walsh vids about trans people and he knows it

But not just my posts, let’s not all of sudden get specific because it doesn’t have the shock value of your previous vague bullshit

Pull up anyone’s posts claiming trans people shouldn’t be allowed to talk about their life. You can’t do it. Everyone knows you can’t do it, because

It’s
A
Load
Of
Exaggerated
Bullshit

[unsunghero]

^
I’ll answer for him, since he’s too lazy to try:

Some dude posted in the project quarm thread about he didn’t like that the server admin was trans because, to him, trans ideology is “conversion therapy” to homosexuals

And while I have no hard feelings whatsoever to the trans server admin, and she seems cool so I’ll call her she, the poster I am referring to IS correct that every time a trans person is realized, a gay person vanishes. I mean….this isn’t rocket science. It’s true, everyone knows it’s true

And after the guy said his peace he shut up. I’m sure it gave Rob PTSD

[Origen]

It clearly bothers you when your feeble attempts at manipulation do not work. I will let you know when you are qualified to operate on my level of sociopathy.

Log off. Go outside. Stop watching Youtube.

[aussenseiter]

IS correct that every time a trans person is realized, a gay person vanishes. I mean….this isn’t rocket science. It’s true, everyone knows it’s true

I don't know that's true.

Citation: katrik I think

[Origen]

No, you see, when a conservative dude says "everyone knows it" an opinion morphs into fact.

It doesn't matter. I don't owe that doofus an explanation.

[aussenseiter]

No, you see, when a conservative dude says "everyone knows it" an opinion morphs into fact.

It doesn't matter. I don't owe that doofus an explanation.

Missing half the equation at least.

[unsunghero]

Ok pretend that the majority of people who identify as trans later in life are straight prior if that’s what you find comfortable

It’s not everyone, but the majority of people who identify as trans probably started as gay, or bi

[aussenseiter]

majority

goalposts

[unsunghero]

Oh and pointing to ones who had straight marriages that they most likely went into due to societal pressure as somehow an indicator that they were straight is also probably not the case

[unsunghero]

goalposts

Doesn’t matter, it’s not an outlandish theory, and it’s not someone doing what rob claims people do here and say trans people shouldn’t be allowed to talk about their lives. It’s just that he didn’t agree with the message and didn’t want to play on quarm as a result

[Origen]

Missing half the equation at least.https://i.imgur.com/jU6GWy6.jpeg

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/jU6GWy6.jpeg

Do you understand the concept of a gay person vanishing?

You seem to really be slow on this one so let me spell it out

If a gay man is really always a gay man, and that gay man says he is trans, does a gay man vanish?

I’ll help you out….no

So when I say, that every time a trans person is realized, a gay person vanishes, that would imply that the person is now a straight person of the opposite gender? Because otherwise the other identity wouldn’t vanish

This is supporting them. Your meme is doing the opposite, because you are too dumb to understand what “vanish” means

[booter]

possibly the most pedantic and boring offshoot argument

[arvidez]

trauma informs him.. not sure who you are talking to.

[unsunghero]

possibly the most pedantic and boring offshoot argument

Oh dang sorry I didn’t dial up my exciting arguments scale to 100

I should post some incorrect memes instead

[unsunghero]

One time I had a client’s mother tell me it was difficult having her daughter come out as a trans boy

She said she was happy about having a new son, but grieving the loss of her daughter

I’m sure Rob would have come in, called her a transphobe, and made a CPS report to get the kid taken away for such insanity ;)

[aussenseiter]

possibly the most pedantic and boring offshoot argument

Sometimes a straight person "vanishes" instead.

We really need to investigate the UFOs for this. 👽

[unsunghero]

Sometimes a straight person "vanishes" instead.


This should be celebrated. Fuck straight people, I don’t give a shit about this

Most likely that dude who said he didn’t like trans ideology is gay, and had a gay friend or partner who came out as trans and they lost some sort of bond or connection as a result

And it’s left him bitter. That’s only my guess

[Origen]

To summarize the conservative transphobe's words to the parent of a trans child: "I know what is better for your child than you do, despite never having met them. And your family doctor and all of the experts that doctor referred them to."

[unsunghero]

To summarize the conservative transphobe's words to the parent of a trans child: "I know what is better for your child than you do, despite never having met them. And your family doctor and all of the experts that doctor referred them to."

See my quote was an actual quote

Your paragraph was a pointless conservation fantasy you made up in your mind that has never and will never happen in my job because you are as dense about mental health as you are about most things

[unsunghero]

Feel free to keep making up work conservations to parents of trans kids

In one did I hop up on the table and give a Nazi salute? Get creative

[aussenseiter]

This should be celebrated. Fuck straight people, I don’t give a shit about this

Most likely that dude who said he didn’t like trans ideology is gay, and had a gay friend or partner who came out as trans and they lost some sort of bond or connection as a result

And it’s left him bitter. That’s only my guess

I like creation better than destruction.

[unsunghero]

I like creation better than destruction.

It’s both at once, yes

It has to be. And like I said, it probably eroded some bond for the dude who posted about it. So to them the destruction > creation

I not saying I agree, which is why I have no hard feelings to the quarm admin, as much as Rob wishes I would so his soapbox wouldn’t be made of toilet paper lies

[Origen]

He really don't like him own medicine, do he?

[unsunghero]

He really don't like him own medicine, do he?

Makes post saying people here are trying to prevent trans people from talking about their lives, a lie

Gets called out

Says he won’t dig and also won’t engage. But since he has the willpower of a slug, he demonstrates by immediately engaging

Then when **I** find the closest example that he is too lazy to find, he makes up imaginary conversations and posts transphobic memes

Then pats himself on the back. Way to not engage champ, you sure showed me

[Origen]

Haha. Let's go further with the prop scenarios.

Unsunghero: Just the drunk dude at the bar, who has been yammering nonstop for a solid hour, loudly, while his friends cringe and hope to god none of the hot chicks saw them enter with him.

[unsunghero]

creation=destruction

my assigned female at birth, for the first time in 5 years, indisputably sending me the message, i am a girl.

Uh, men are better then women so that’s a net loss

Didn’t want Rob to have to keep making up fake convos to clutch pearls over, there you go. Clutch till the knuckles go white ;)

[Duik]

Why are men better than women?

There is no "Y".

[Seducio]

What's hilarious is if you're down at the park with the fam you'll see two little league teams over there post game lined up with like 10 year olds to give each other high fives. There was a winning team and a losing team yet the kids still say good game.

Then down the way you'll see after a youth soccer game the two teams in circles singing 2-4-6-8 who do we appreciate yada yada yada. Like 8 years who are taught good sportsmanship.

Then you get older. And then we become literal adults who get mad at digital scribbles on the internet written by strangers. I can't say I haven't been swayed into some weird temporary mental frenzy by stupid shit I've read before by someone I could care less about. Human brains are a incorrigible gullible mess.

Was the internet a mistake?

[Origen]

Internet Usage License, when?

[Seducio]

Regulation of the Internet and AI will come most likely because of some crisis moment that Govt takes advantage of like it is always want to do. When it does give itself this regulatory power it will be a wet kiss to Big Tech. All regulation typically helps out the big guys, creates an artificial regulatory moat, and limits innovation in the long run.

Will AI or internet regulation help progressive causes? Nah. Your modern day progressive has been trained to think the Twitters of the world have their back. The fact that Twitter is now X should indicate relying on the private sector is something the progressives may have been Psych Op'd into. The modern day conservative has been trained to trust those that thumb their nose at elites. A perfect tension of opposites. Teeter totter to pendulum level effects.

In the end it's old school divide and conquer strategy to extract more wealth from the middle classes while blaming the other guy for not getting anything done. A strategy partisans love. Elites train people to become partisans through perverse incentives. That's why anyone you ever meet in politics seems slimy as crap.

[magnetaress]

I got gendered cute and F today by a total stranger. G-d bless!

[magnetaress]

Oh yeah and I would totally have flirted if I wasn't a complete mess.. who'd likely just ruin his life.

I did brush my hair in front of him.

I'm still happy with my own choices tho!

(I had a really cute pink dress that was perfect for my boobs too)

[magnetaress]

Getting back to a good weight aswell.

I've done amazingly on calories in this month! So who knows maybe pics again sometime! When I look less pregnant.

[Origen]

Regulation of the Internet and AI will come most likely because of some crisis moment that Govt takes advantage of like it is always want to do. When it does give itself this regulatory power it will be a wet kiss to Big Tech. All regulation typically helps out the big guys, creates an artificial regulatory moat, and limits innovation in the long run.

Will AI or internet regulation help progressive causes? Nah. Your modern day progressive has been trained to think the Twitters of the world have their back. The fact that Twitter is now X should indicate relying on the private sector is something the progressives may have been Psych Op'd into. The modern day conservative has been trained to trust those that thumb their nose at elites. A perfect tension of opposites. Teeter totter to pendulum level effects.

In the end it's old school divide and conquer strategy to extract more wealth from the middle classes while blaming the other guy for not getting anything done. A strategy partisans love. Elites train people to become partisans through perverse incentives. That's why anyone you ever meet in politics seems slimy as crap.I find it simpler to say "No war but the class war, baby" and then put on my shades (so nobody can see me cry)

[unsunghero]

Oh yeah and I would totally have flirted if I wasn't a complete mess.. who'd likely just ruin his life.

I did brush my hair in front of him.

I'm still happy with my own choices tho!

(I had a really cute pink dress that was perfect for my boobs too)

Starkind coming in with what I always knew was the best counter-argument that no one thought of mentioning because people wanted to hyper-focus on whether someone could be straight or gay or something else prior to transitioning:

If the person is objectively better off mentally in the long run following the transition, then no matter what identity was lost prior, it was worth it

Starkind gets an A
Reiwa who went for variable parameters gets a B
Rob who completely missed the point and posted untrue transphobic memes gets an effort D- for trying even though he said he wouldn’t respond

[Origen]

He is so desperate for a W and it. is. precious.

It's 7pm on a Friday night. Go outside. Do it for me, I'm stuck

[aussenseiter]

RFK Jr: Son of Perdition (https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1707898268573704390)

🧵

[arvidez]

I still say a k-12 education that isn't invested in coddling sectarian reality accommodations dissolves everything this forum currently argues about.

Some people here clearly got educated. Others, I can basically peg where you dropped out of the data flow. You think I am kidding?

None of these are adult debates. You have to be willfully ignorant of what we know, to post what the "Make the 20th Century Go Away!" folks post. And it's 2023.

So stale. You guys gonna still be arguing about trannies in the nursing homes. Technology now gives human beings the ability to fuck with their gender characteristics and their sexual organs themselves. That's called Popular Mechanics 2023.

Watch. It's funny if you just adopt a technological determinist perspective. Soon, scientists and industry will figure out a way to turn hormonal states on and off. People will transition several times, perhaps.

Meanwhile, all the current trannies will be pissed, just like old school feminists are currently pissed. "You can't just become things like that back and forth!"

(Do posters here realize most older feminists are anti-trans? And are shedding tears on the regular just like the Christocrats?)

Humans orbit the potentials of their technology. Which is developing toward a singularity.

https://i.imgur.com/NhzTC4Y.jpg

we are surviving our technology. humans resist even when resistance is futile. we are the people not the symptom.

[magnetaress]

The tldr.

https://i.imgur.com/qVt4vxD.jpeg

😇🤗👋

[Origen]

Close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

[Swish]

Close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists

This post violates my 69th amendment rights.

[Neno]

I don't really understand the problem with fascism. I'm white, married, have kids, and a good paying job. If anything a white ethno state would do nothing but benefit me greatly. I'm failing to see why I should want anything else.

[unsunghero]

I don't really understand the problem with fascism. I'm white, married, have kids, and a good paying job. If anything a white ethno state would do nothing but benefit me greatly. I'm failing to see why I should want anything else.

Well I guess I’m an expert in fascism, and being an expert, fascism means the gov’t can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. So that would be very different than just an ethnically homogenous population like Japan has

I agree that a population of only one ethnicity has some benefits, but also some drawbacks. But a fascist government, that sounds like it would suck to live under

Unless you were being ironic

[magnetaress]

Wanting to close a forum because you're mad about someone doesn't agree with you is exactly what a fascist would use the government to do.

[aussenseiter]

Well I guess I’m an expert in fascism, and being an expert, fascism means the gov’t can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.

Unitary states can do that easier, though fascism can take that form. Remember what the Commonwealth realms did to abuse their people during Covid, and before, and after? :p

[unsunghero]

Unitary states can do that easier, though fascism can take that form. Remember what the Commonwealth realms did to abuse their people during Covid, and before, and after? :p

Ya I don’t really know much about it, despite me being totally for it

But I do agree, government never wants to let a good emergency go to waste when it comes to seizing power

I would like to catch Rob on his deathbed many years from now and whisper “you wasted a decent amount of hours of your life typing ‘fascist’ 5,074 times when you could have saved time with an automated script”

[Cecily]

Just wanted to check back in and make sure we're still arguing about trans people 10 years later. There's nothing more passionate than a man's opinion on what other people do with their dicks.

[Cecily]

Also, Origen, you're being really rude calling the posters here fascists. Please be respectful and refer to the fascists using their preferred political party affiliation pronouns.

[aussenseiter]

Just wanted to check back in and make sure we're still arguing about trans people 10 years later. There's nothing more passionate than a man's opinion on what other people do with their dicks.

Are you gay now and were you gay before?

[Cecily]

Kinda undetermined. I settled w/ bi because that's easier for me to process, I don't really care to commit one way or the other, but I think I've always preferred women. Then again, men make me feel a certain way that women don't, so I choose not to choose. I can see myself being happy settling down with a partner of either sex. The fact he's saying *most* trans people aren't straight to begin with seems inaccurate to me. Lesbian women exist and ALOT of trans woman identify that way. There's a lot of straight trans women as well. Saying it's mostly gay people transitioning or framing it as gay/lesbian erasure reeks of someone who partially digested some virulent TERF propaganda (Matt Walsh was brought up previously as an excellent example) and is trying to articulate those ideas to the best of their limited understanding, poorly.

[aussenseiter]

I think I've always preferred women. The fact he's saying *most* trans people aren't straight to begin with seems inaccurate to me. Lesbian women exist and ALOT of trans woman identify that way. There's a lot of straight trans women as well.

Walk yourself through the logic here. You either weren't and are or were and aren't.

[aussenseiter]

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A

[Cecily]

So you're saying I wasn't and now I am or I was gay and am not gay now. Ok so what we're saying here is that transitioning is a means to switch social status and associated stigmas with not-straight sexual orientation? IS THAT what you're asking? I mean you can frame it that way. And you can choose to be offended by eraSsure, but that's taking away the focus from the individual's right to self-determine and instead relegating them to homosexuals transitioning for social acceptance. Which is really offensive as fuck.

Did not a philosopher once ask, "Are traps gay?" It's a paradox and you can come to completely different conclusions on the sexual orientation status of a trans person or whether or not it's gay to be attracted to them depending on your political compass and associated opinions. Pretty stupid to debate it unless you desperately need something to argue about. Which is basically everything discussed here, so carry on.

[aussenseiter]

So you're saying I wasn't and now I am or I was gay and am not gay now. Ok so what we're saying here is that transitioning is a means to switch social status and associated stigmas with not-straight sexual orientation? IS THAT what you're asking? I mean you can frame it that way. And you can choose to be offended by eraSsure, but that's taking away the focus from the individual's right to self-determine and instead relegating them to homosexuals transitioning for social acceptance. Which is really offensive as fuck.

Did not a philosopher once ask, "Are traps gay?" It's a paradox and you can come to completely different conclusions on the sexual orientation status of a trans person or whether or not it's gay to be attracted to them depending on your political compass and associated opinions. Pretty stupid to debate it unless you desperately need something to argue about. Which is basically everything discussed here, so carry on.

Like I said and unsung agreed, thinking of it as creation is better than thinking of it as destruction.

This is life under Lawrence. 👍

[Cecily]

Not sure I follow. I'm skipping around on this thread starting from the end trying to piece together something intelligible and not coming up with much. You guys are hard to follow/understand pretty often. Please accept my humble rantings on subject matter I have some experience with.


Back on topic, do you fascists believe you should have equal access to social media platforms as normal people? If so, why do you believe you shouldn't be de-platformed?

[aussenseiter]

Not sure I follow. I'm skipping around on this thread starting from the end trying to piece together something intelligible and not coming up with much. You guys are hard to follow. Please accept my humble rantings on subject matter I have some experience with.


Back on topic, do you fascists believe you should have equal access to social media platforms as normal people? And why do you believe you shouldn't be de-platformed?

We shouldn't we deplatformed because you've already won in fact and in law. The United States is currently the guarantor of the right to sodomize and be sodomized. 🥹

[Cecily]

We've seen those rights are subject to whims of whoever sits in the Supreme Court. And the trend seems terrifying. Elimination of rights for women and minorities. And looks like a full on old-fashioned genocide is getting worked on at the moment in the United States of America. It's a very interesting time to be alive, especially as the targeted demographic.


Why are you people like this? And the sad thing is I know why. It's a backlash from being pushed too far. A number of really fucking stupid decisions have been made. For example, dragtime story telling.. I cracked up laughing when I heard about it because it's not fathomable that ANYONE thought it was a good idea. It 100% exists out in the world to troll people and incite a reaction. Probably initiated by conservatives to provoke the obvious reaction from people and rally their base. Or it was progressives trolling conservatives. Or it was a third party, probably Russia, trying to rip our nation apart with some easy and hilarious bait. Shits sad how easily people eat this shit up.

[aussenseiter]

We've seen those rights are subject to whims of whoever sits in the Supreme Court. And the trend seems terrifying. Elimination of rights for women and minorities. And looks like a full on old-fashioned genocide is getting worked on at the moment in the United States of America. It's a very interesting time to be alive, especially as the targeted demographic.


Why are you people like this?

🎵Life is like a hurricane
Herein, Glucksberg 🎵

[Cecily]

"The Court also felt that if it declared physician-assisted suicide a constitutionally protected right, it would start down the path to voluntary and perhaps involuntary euthanasia."

https://floridadeathwithdignity.org/2023/08/02/florida-end-of-life-options-act-2023/

Yeah that makes sense.

[magnetaress]

I don't like anyone butt really cute boys sometimes make me want to be a real human being again. The tiniest ittyiest bit. So according to biologic sex. I'd be gay. Butt I am pretty much asexual since I place virtually no value on sexual intimacy and actively avoid it now.

Also sex is a sin unless you're married and it's for making babies only and you shouldn't be reproducing (everyone) anyway.

[Toxigen]

I don't really understand the problem with fascism. I'm white, married, have kids, and a good paying job. If anything a white ethno state would do nothing but benefit me greatly. I'm failing to see why I should want anything else.

amen lol

[Toxigen]

Kinda undetermined. I settled w/ bi because that's easier for me to process, I don't really care to commit one way or the other, but I think I've always preferred women. Then again, men make me feel a certain way that women don't, so I choose not to choose. I can see myself being happy settling down with a partner of either sex. The fact he's saying *most* trans people aren't straight to begin with seems inaccurate to me. Lesbian women exist and ALOT of trans woman identify that way. There's a lot of straight trans women as well. Saying it's mostly gay people transitioning or framing it as gay/lesbian erasure reeks of someone who partially digested some virulent TERF propaganda (Matt Walsh was brought up previously as an excellent example) and is trying to articulate those ideas to the best of their limited understanding, poorly.

what the fuck is all this bullshit

[magnetaress]

Playing baseball should be mandatory and if you have low stats or averages (not just batting) you go to the fodder battalions.

[arvidez]

Just wanted to check back in and make sure we're still arguing about trans people 10 years later. There's nothing more passionate than a man's opinion on what other people do with their dicks.

why wouldnt you want us talking about it? straightening out the language seems ideal. maybe you do wanna talk about it.

i think it was an old american white man who called words vessels.

bi is the cis version of pan.
gender reveal parties..wth

[Ooloo]

Hi guess what trans people don't have a monopoly on public discourse, there are other members of society too who actually have opinions about the topic, particularly with regard to issues of children and consent. It's a perfectly legitimate topic to analyze and critique, just like any other. Why's it so hard to be an adult on this topic? From either side. Right loons call everyone pedos and the trans activist loons shriek about oppression while threatening and intimidating anyone who politely expresses even slight doubts or concerns about the whole thing. Grow up, be adults.

[Origen]

Why's it so hard to be an adult on this topic? From either side.Leading medical groups recognize the medical necessity of treatments for gender dysphoria and endorse such treatments. Most of these groups have also explicitly rejected insurance exclusions for transgender-related care.

American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health

[magnetaress]

Thanks Ooloo

100%

[Toxigen]

mental illness

[aussenseiter]

Most of these groups have also explicitly rejected insurance exclusions for transgender-related care.


Translation?

[unsunghero]

Not sure I follow. I'm skipping around on this thread starting from the end trying to piece together something intelligible and not coming up with much. You guys are hard to follow/understand pretty often. Please accept my humble rantings on subject matter I have some experience with.


Back on topic, do you fascists believe you should have equal access to social media platforms as normal people? If so, why do you believe you shouldn't be de-platformed?

The original point didn’t come from me but from some random poster who had never posted in off topic before saying he was a huge supporter of the LGB community, purposefully leaving off the T. He (or she or other I dunno) claimed that trans was erasure of the gay identity

I would hope with your deep deductive reasoning to believe that a Matt Walsh fan most likely is NOT also a deep supporter of the LGB community

Most likely my guess was more likely, that the original poster was likely gay or bi, and had a friend or partner that was previously identifying as gay or bi, and that somehow by that partner switching to identifying as trans, the poster lost some bond or connection. Then they blamed the new identity, further ruining their dynamic causing them to no longer be in a relationship. And thus came across as bitter towards “trans erasure” as a result

But if you want to think it was a Matt Walsh loving redneck, go right ahead if that’s more comfortable for ya

I said none of it matters as long as the trans person is left objectively better off in the long run post-transition, than any erasure if it did occur, would be worth it. Also not saying it occurred in every instance

Hope that clears things up

[Cecily]

why wouldnt you want us talking about it? straightening out the language seems ideal. maybe you do wanna talk about it.

i think it was an old american white man who called words vessels.

bi is the cis version of pan.
gender reveal parties..wth
The people here have never shut up about it the entire time this forum has been around. I guess I'm weary of seeing it being sensationalized for the past decade. It has, however, been interesting to watch the discourse evolve from genuine ignorance and bigotry to well-informed bigotry. I don't mind the discussion. I'm in awe of the stamina behind it.

[magnetaress]

The real question is should u encourage kids to come out as anything considering the rate at which America is outclassing Russia with its prejudice....?

[Cecily]

Yeah my friend has a trans child and I'm terrified for that kid. US is going to be a very dangerous place for trans people when dems lose next election. It's already getting bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Separation of church and state used to be important to Americans.

[aussenseiter]

Yeah my friend has a trans child and I'm terrified for that kid. US is going to be a very dangerous place for trans people when dems lose next election. It's already getting bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Separation of church and state used to be important to Americans.

UET was something Bush/Cheney were accused of and none of that happened with a trifecta.

It is nice they're playing the oldies again though. 👴

[Evia]

So it's agenda 30 or project 25? Depending on who wins the tug-o-war?

So were screwed no matter what.

[Origen]

UET was something Bush/Cheney were accused of and none of that happened with a trifecta.

It is nice they're playing the oldies again though. 👴It took them decades but they overturned Roe v. Wade out of anger at the abstract concept of feminism

Don't drop your guard. Don't underestimate the influence of billionaires on the simple conservative mind

[aussenseiter]

It took them decades but they overturned Roe v. Wade out of anger at the abstract concept of feminism

Don't drop your guard. Don't underestimate the influence of billionaires on the simple conservative mind

They had another trifecta in 2017-2019 and still didn't do it.

60 R Senators isn't in the cards for 2024.

[Origen]

I don't have your faith in electoralism, they have proven time and time again that the rulebook is only a bludgeon to them.

[aussenseiter]

I don't have your faith in electoralism, they have proven time and time again that the rulebook is only a bludgeon to them.

It would be mad funny if they nuked the filibuster after years of .. antics..

But I don't think they will. 👍

[aussenseiter]

So it's agenda 30 or project 25? Depending on who wins the tug-o-war?

So were screwed no matter what.

It's mostly the vesting clause(Article 2) but it's also Chevron deference and the Deep State.

We might have a very hot summer if Loper Bright v. Raimondi goes badly in June.

[arvidez]

The people here have never shut up about it the entire time this forum has been around. I guess I'm weary of seeing it being sensationalized for the past decade. It has, however, been interesting to watch the discourse evolve from genuine ignorance and bigotry to well-informed bigotry. I don't mind the discussion. I'm in awe of the stamina behind it.

bristled at bigotry, but you are right. i prefer hardheaded or maybe stubborn.

'give it to me straight, tell it to me slow.'

i admit to my fear. sometimeshammersometimesnail.

the video on youtube titled-"Dog Cries Every Time He's Touched — Until He Meets This Woman | The Dodo"-(dont know how to embed p) is a great example of how to deal with fear, but who has this much patience.

my 6yr old came home from school informing me the earth might not be here when she is older. she says "oh, i hope it is". like greta said, "stolen my childhood".

when i was 10 i thought my dad spit brown(chewing tobacco)because he was not a mix breed like me. i looked at my body wondering which parts belonged to with race. kids are stupid and believe anything. they are living in a dream.

i redirected my kid to the idea of a beautiful resilient earth that will always be here. i told her people are the earth. she will get re-greta'd

[magnetaress]

bristled at bigotry, but you are right. i prefer hardheaded or maybe stubborn.

'give it to me straight, tell it to me slow.'

i admit to my fear. sometimeshammersometimesnail.

the video on youtube titled-"Dog Cries Every Time He's Touched — Until He Meets This Woman | The Dodo"-(dont know how to embed p) is a great example of how to deal with fear, but who has this much patience.

my 6yr old came home from school informing me the earth might not be here when she is older. she says "oh, i hope it is". like greta said, "stolen my childhood".

when i was 10 i thought my dad spit brown(chewing tobacco)because he was not a mix breed like me. i looked at my body wondering which parts belonged to with race. kids are stupid and believe anything. they are living in a dream.

i redirected my kid to the idea of a beautiful resilient earth that will always be here. i told her people are the earth. she will get re-greta'd

earth is strong its proven it will out last humans and G-d has a plan for it

this is a hard time to be alive because the temptation to evil is the strongest it has ever been in history, even tho in a material sense this is genuinely the easiest time to be alive, its the hardest in spirit, unfortunately it is very easy to fill our hearts and minds with evil towards what we see in the world today because we the good people left on this earth are becoming more and more powerless as Satan grows in power and the Antichrist collects his forces.

Just hold love in your heart and you are doing a fine job with your kid !

[Toxigen]

Yeah my friend has a trans child

lol

how do you think gays and trannies reproduce?

[magnetaress]

Memes.

My mom said she almost bled out during childbirth butt they didn't have the right blood so they OD'd her and me on oxytocin and saline.

It's probably why I am gay-trans-femaleish-whatever, that and the Mormons for sure.

[Cecily]

lol

how do you think gays and trannies reproduce?
That's a compelling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie) way to frame it.

[Elizondo]

That's a compelling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie) way to frame it.

lol Godwin's Law confirmed

[Botten]

Dems have 2024 EZ

GOP get organized or fall in line or dissolve already.

You are a train wreck.

https://bnn.network/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/patrick-mchenry-ridiculed-for-gavel-drop-20231004113904.jpg

[Origen]

lol Godwin's Law confirmed"I keep meeting assholes all day. What a bunch of assholes."

[Origen]

Close this forum, it is a safe space for fascists and good people don't hesitate to deplatform fascists.

Plus, you all know we're a huge pain in the ass.

[Ooloo]

The concept of a "trans child" isn't substantiated by any hard science whatsoever. It's like saying you know someone who has a vegan cat; somebody made that decision but it wasn't the cat.

The explosion in trans identification, particularly among young girls, is almost certainly a result of social conditioning by their peers, teachers and parents. Kids are impressionable, they'll investigate any idea you float their way. If you tell a 9 year old they might be the opposite gender, they will often go "BUHHH really?? Cool!!" cause they're just kids. They aren't going to light up their old timey intellectual tobacco pipe and say "why yes mother, I have deeply considered this possibility, but I feel I am the correct gender and do not require medical intervention at this time".