Paladin

[enjchanter]

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[druidbob]

Hot take: soulfire looks cooler than fiery defender.

[Sizar]

Fun to solo to 50 ish if twinked, then boring as all F

[Crede]

Them being really good against undead is like some weird pally myth I never understood. Maybe because of ghoulbane in classic? Terrible ratio tho. Their undead nukes suck, sks get the same tov weps, and their final disc doesn’t even work.

[Pint]

Paladins yea

[Snaggles]

Then pally skill book is like a reliable accountant. Boring but so nice to have.
Holyforge sucks. Sanct rocks.

[wuanahto]

my dwarf pal in cultural gear got me to reroll my rogue into dwarf brell for that culture chain

[Naethyn]

I'm collecting all of the storm and lightning items on my Karana paladin. So far I have:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Amulet_of_the_Storm
https://wiki.project1999.com/Lance_of_Thunder
https://wiki.project1999.com/Thunderstone
https://wiki.project1999.com/Living_Thunder_Earring

[Naethyn]

Them being really good against undead is like some weird pally myth I never understood. Maybe because of ghoulbane in classic? Terrible ratio tho. Their undead nukes suck, sks get the same tov weps, and their final disc doesn’t even work.

Loot a https://wiki.project1999.com/Craslith at lv 6 and then at 20 head to unrest and have fun 1 shotting everything with a 149dd.

[Toxigen]

itll be way more enjoyable leveling than your war thats for sure

DS pots are your friend

convince an enc to duo with you and its madness

[Crede]

Then pally skill book is like a reliable accountant. Boring but so nice to have.
Holyforge sucks. Sanct rocks.

Yea why has holyforge sucked for so long which is a borderline class defining disc but we care about fixing the faction needed for the honeybugger assassin quest lol.

[enjchanter]

whats the best 2hander that doesnt require spending dkp for palading

[Crede]

whats the best 2hander that doesnt require spending dkp for palading

Reaver/narandi lance. Both look like shit tho so I just stuck with epic on my pally even if it’s inferior. 2h bash is nice.

[enjchanter]

What graphic does essence blade have

[Borak]

It looks like a one-handed primal sword. If you happen to have both, be careful which one you hand in to Melalafen. /whistle

[Troxx]

I have considered deleveling my 60 paladin a bit just to fck around.

[enjchanter]

i want an essence blade but seems its a copy paste of frostwrath

[Toxigen]

I have considered deleveling my 60 paladin a bit just to fck around.

Its fun when you get your group in trouble via YOLO and save the day w/ your Soulfire.

[mcoy]

whats the best 2hander that doesnt require spending dkp for palading

As a follow-up what about adding the "without a level requirement" caveat? I've never played a pally and would like to - but having a hard time picking what weapon to search EC for...

-Mcoy

[Snaggles]

As a follow-up what about adding the "without a level requirement" caveat? I've never played a pally and would like to - but having a hard time picking what weapon to search EC for...

-Mcoy

Something like a Jade Mace or better ratio to 30. Reaver 30-55. Narandi 55-60.

Don’t spend big plat on a good ratio 1h. All droppable ones all low dps. At least the Jeldorin is a good tank tool.

[Toxigen]

As a follow-up what about adding the "without a level requirement" caveat? I've never played a pally and would like to - but having a hard time picking what weapon to search EC for...

-Mcoy

if you got lots of plat, MDS for low lvls

just hard to re-sell

[DeathsSilkyMist]

if you got lots of plat, MDS for low lvls

just hard to re-sell

Depends on the level, due to the damage caps. Levels 1-19 something like Guard Captains Mallet would be better, since your damage is capped at 10 and then 14. MDS would be a 10/30 or 14/30 in that level range. Mallet would be 10/20 or 11/20.

MDS would only be ideal for levels 20-29, since the damage cap is 30. Once you hit level 30 a Reaver is going to be better and cheaper. I'd use something like Granite Face Grinder for levels 20-29 since it is 29/36 and a lot cheaper/easier to sell. I agree with you, MDS is hard to sell.

TLDR: Something like Guard Captains Mallet (Level 1-19) -> Granite Face Grinder (Level 20-29) -> Reaver (Level 30+). You could buy all 3 in EC at the same time, and the total price would be cheaper than MDS on both servers.

[mcoy]

Something like a Jade Mace or better ratio to 30. Reaver 30-55. Narandi 55-60.

Don’t spend big plat on a good ratio 1h. All droppable ones all low dps. At least the Jeldorin is a good tank tool.

Thanks for the tip! Guess I'll save my money then.

-Mcoy

[Keebz]

I've always said I'd do the 14/24 mace to 20 then swap to Reaver. There's some sub-optimizations you can do but buying and selling takes time and you're gonna shred through the low levels anyway.

[mcoy]

if you got lots of plat, MDS for low lvls

just hard to re-sell

I take it MDS is:

Massive Dragonclaw Shard (https://wiki.project1999.com/Massive_Dragonclaw_Shard)

Yeah, no worries there. I'm a broke cleric - couple k's the limit, lol.

Thank you for the good suggestion though! I'd definitely check it out if I could afford one.


TLDR: Something like Guard Captains Mallet (Level 1-19) -> Granite Face Grinder (Level 20-29) -> Reaver (Level 30+).

This is very helpful, thank you. The reaver's not a magic weapon though - is that a dealbreaker? Is there a list of mobs (beside ghouls and wisps) that I'd need to swap weapons for? I think I actually have a Guard captain's mallet somewhere, so I've got at least a start! Now I just need to stock up on some crusty armor, and grab a stein or something to offset the -cha for pacify...

-Mcoy

[Toxigen]

I take it MDS is:

Massive Dragonclaw Shard (https://wiki.project1999.com/Massive_Dragonclaw_Shard)

Yeah, no worries there. I'm a broke cleric - couple k's the limit, lol.

Thank you for the good suggestion though! I'd definitely check it out if I could afford one.



This is very helpful, thank you. The reaver's not a magic weapon though - is that a dealbreaker? Is there a list of mobs (beside ghouls and wisps) that I'd need to swap weapons for? I think I actually have a Guard captain's mallet somewhere, so I've got at least a start! Now I just need to stock up on some crusty armor, and grab a stein or something to offset the -cha for pacify...

-Mcoy

Thats why I'm not a big Reaver fan myself. If you're solo its fine you can control whats up but I'd rather group and not be limited to where we can go.

If you're grouped your dmg matters far less anyway. Argent Protector is a great weapon for the money. Probably your best bet on "couple k" budget.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Thats why I'm not a big Reaver fan myself. If you're solo its fine you can control whats up but I'd rather group and not be limited to where we can go.

If you're grouped your dmg matters far less anyway. Argent Protector is a great weapon for the money. Probably your best bet on "couple k" budget.

Agreed, Argent Protector is a great choice too level 30+ if you are doubious about Reaver being non magical.

[mcoy]

Thats why I'm not a big Reaver fan myself. If you're solo its fine you can control whats up but I'd rather group and not be limited to where we can go.

If you're grouped your dmg matters far less anyway. Argent Protector is a great weapon for the money. Probably your best bet on "couple k" budget.

Indeed it does appear so - thanks! I'll prob swap over to that once the dmg cap lifts.

Thanks everyone!

-Mcoy

[Jimjam]

Thats why I'm not a big Reaver fan myself. If you're solo its fine you can control whats up but I'd rather group and not be limited to where we can go.

If you're grouped your dmg matters far less anyway. Argent Protector is a great weapon for the money. Probably your best bet on "couple k" budget.

If not soloing then just use your sword of pain clicky for melee?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If not soloing then just use your sword of pain clicky for melee?

Sword of Pain is an SK only weapon. The clickie on it is Grim Aura. Are you thinking of a different item? The Paladin equivalent is called Sword of Blessings, but it's clickie effect is a disease and poison cure, 7 second cast time.

[Jimjam]

Sword of Pain is an SK only weapon. The clickie on it is Grim Aura. Are you thinking of a different item? The Paladin equivalent is called Sword of Blessings, but it's clickie effect is a disease and poison cure, 7 second cast time.

ngl I brainfarted and forgot knight wasn’t just one big class. Following that error and the principle of never backing down I guess my advice is reroll SK.

[Toxigen]

Indeed it does appear so - thanks! I'll prob swap over to that once the dmg cap lifts.

Thanks everyone!

-Mcoy

Save up for Narandi for 55 and you're good.

You'd think Narandi Crown would be less expensive after so many ring wars. Really wish more knights had access to the best item in the game for them. 80-100k is a big chunk for a lot of folks.

I can't imagine leveling a knight w/o one.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Save up for Narandi for 55 and you're good.

You'd think Narandi Crown would be less expensive after so many ring wars. Really wish more knights had access to the best item in the game for them. 80-100k is a big chunk for a lot of folks.

I can't imagine leveling a knight w/o one.

Yeah I am kind of surprised at the price consistency too. I guess it's because most people end up holding on to their Narandi Crowns for random alts/mains, since it is basically BiS. No reason to sell it unless you are really strapped for cash. That makes supply harder to come by.

Same with the Earring, it's always useful on the classes that can click it. Plus it's nice to have 2x Earrings for recharges.

The Mask, Eye, and Lance are not as good overall, so people are more likely to sell them off later after they get an upgrade/side-grade. There's more supply and less demand.

[kaev]

Hot take: soulfire looks cooler than fiery defender.

Sad, but true. Worth noting that the most important piece of cosmetic gear for a paladin is a Guise, as nothing looks cooler than a DE wielding any flaming sword. TFB if your paladin(s) are lacking like mine. :(

[ScottBerta]

Save up for Narandi for 55 and you're good.

You'd think Narandi Crown would be less expensive after so many ring wars. Really wish more knights had access to the best item in the game for them. 80-100k is a big chunk for a lot of folks.

I can't imagine leveling a knight w/o one.


Or you can just be a stubborn idiot like me who refuses to get one for my SK because i paid XX k years ago for a circlet of the falinkan and don’t want it sitting in bank.