Cleric and Bind Would

[cryptid]

I've leveled a cleric and I've been trying to find out if it's worth leveling bind wound. On the few melee characters I've played, that's a given. But on a healer, are there any circumstances where having maxed bind wound might save the day? Thanks.

[Jimjam]

Can help with slow attrition healing if you want to keep mana full, if you want to heal without sitting or if you are using a spell/clicky with long cast time.

Can be done while da/db.

Not affected by silence/oom

[Toxigen]

basically no

[Troxx]

basically no

This.

I mean, if you really get out in the weeds it is not like it has *zero value …

But in this case the simple answer is the most relevant.

Work on your bind would if you’re the type of completionist that wants all skills maxed I guess

[Jimjam]

You can heal without breaking invis with bandages too

[Tnair]

because youd also have to have at least one permanent inventory slot taken up by bandages, imma say No. even as a rogue, once i got a clicky healing bp theres almost no reason to ever use bandages again. 10 seconds of waiting for like ... 40 health? its only better if sitting health regen is your only other option. any melee can bw that guy while youre invis, and you can regen enough mana for multiple bandages in that time

[Nostalgiabait]

I've leveled a cleric and I've been trying to find out if it's worth leveling bind wound. On the few melee characters I've played, that's a given. But on a healer, are there any circumstances where having maxed bind wound might save the day? Thanks.

In theory yes in practice no

[Snaggles]

Donal’s arms heal 16hp/second.

I’d work on bind wound right after practicing other languages.

[Garnaak]

even as a rogue, once i got a clicky healing bp theres almost no reason to ever use bandages again. 10 seconds of waiting for like ... 40 health?

You know you can click BP and bind wound at the same time, correct?

As for cleric, they don't ever get beyond 50% health for bind wound correct? I would likely pass, probably med time = more hp in heals than bind wound in same time.

[Jimjam]

Cleric unlock 201 skill at Level 56. At this point both meditating to fuel divine light* and bandages are just over 8hp/sec.

* (not the ideal attrition heal strat, I know, but for the sake of comparison)

Donal’s arms heal 16hp/second.

I’d work on bind wound right after practicing other languages.

An excellent way to do some attrition healing while keeping the battery full. Better than meditating or bandaging. You can weave it with bandages for an extra 50-80ish hp per 12 sec. Obviously has the drawback of no better hp/ac combo buff and you need the recipient of bandages to be nearby.

[Troxx]

Velious legs are like 10-11 hp/sec to the whole group.

[enjchanter]

I can't believe this topic has more than 1 reply

[Jimjam]

I can't believe this topic has more than 1 reply

I’m going full Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders five fully certified forumsperglord on this.

Velious legs are like 10-11 hp/sec to the whole group.

Also can be woven with bandaging for an additional 50-80ish hp per cast.

[Toxigen]

I can't believe this topic has more than 1 reply

and its not even a DSM thread

[Jimjam]

and its not even a DSM thread

Please disregard the typical trolling from Toxigen. I’m unsure why they feel spamming will make them seem correct or good. You wouldn’t troll if you could win the debate without doing so. Kindly contribute to the discussion or abstain from nonsensical trolling. There is no need for me to respond to this trolling if it continues. Toxigen responds only with trolling as they have read my maths and knows I am correct. I just want to make sure any new players are aware 1) bandaging returns similar hp to meditating while protecting mana reserves for burst situations and 2) spells and clickies, especially those with long cast times can be done simultaneously with a bandage. I simply do not want any false information polluting these message boards.

[enjchanter]

Idk why you'd compare to any spell besides ch
Ch is the most efficient heal in the game

So what's the math on bandaging instead of just medding and ch'ing when they're low.

Since we're only talking low stakes here it's not like we're in a rush to heal up

[Toxigen]

Ch is the most efficient heal in the game


inb4 DSM ahktually statement

[enjchanter]

Yeah I'm rdy to hear it

[DeathsSilkyMist]

"ahktually", CH efficiency depends on the player's max HP.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Complete_Healing


10000 HP: 25 HP/mana
8000 HP: 20 HP/mana
6000 HP: 15 HP/mana
4000 HP: 10 HP/mana
2000 HP: 5 HP/mana
932 HP: 2.33 HP/mana (equal to Superior Healing)


Something like https://wiki.project1999.com/Torpor is more efficient on targets that you are healing 2400 HP or less. This could either be a player with 2400 HP total if you are healing them when they are almost dead, or a player with around 3000 HP total if you start CHing at 40%. Cloth casters can easily fit this scenario.

Please disregard the typical trolling from Toxigen.

Indeed! Sadly Toxigen is trolling here because he lost the debate in another thread.

[Jimjam]

Idk why you'd compare to any spell besides ch
Ch is the most efficient heal in the game

So what's the math on bandaging instead of just medding and ch'ing when they're low.

Since we're only talking low stakes here it's not like we're in a rush to heal up

You can bandage a second target while chealing the tank. This is especially easy considering the long cast time of cheal. Another tick in the box for bind wound.

[Toxigen]

Yeah I'm rdy to hear it

lmao there it is

[DeathsSilkyMist]

lmao there it is

Indeed! As usual, you cannot rebut the point https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3675502&postcount=19 , and must resort to spamming threads with trolling instead.

[Troxx]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/tv3Yr2A2I4kAAAAd/nerd-ackchyually.gif

[Jimjam]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/tv3Yr2A2I4kAAAAd/nerd-ackchyually.gif

I love learning or discovering weird, tangential and barely practical Ackchyually stuff in Everquest (or well, anything really).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I love learning or discovering weird, tangential and barely practical Ackchyually stuff in Everquest (or well, anything really).

Indeed!

[Ripqozko]

Jimjam and DSM are the same person, join kittens at your own risk

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Jimjam and DSM are the same person, join kittens at your own risk

Should we start taking bets on when this random Ripqozko post will change? He reposts the exact same nonsense over and over in various threads and occasionally decides to change it. It's happened a few times in the past, with the same result of nobody caring. Maybe one day he will post something interesting.

[Duik]

Cant sell p99 player accounts, but is there anything in the TOS about selling I]forum[/I] accounts?

Just putten it out there.

[enjchanter]

I might even be above 2400hp unbuffed on my int caster
Not relatable

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I might even be above 2400hp unbuffed on my int caster
Not relatable

My Shaman is at 2600 HP self buffed with raid gear. I imagine you must have a lot of BiS gear if that is the case. A lot of players are not at that level of gear.

[enjchanter]

Can't imagine
My bind wound is still at 1 too

[RobotGraveyard]

Max'd on mine but I was solo'ing a ton. It's valuable! You can bind up to 70% of someone's health.

[Duik]

I imagine if you consitently get below a certain amount (30% or so) AND you are willing to exchange time for healing cheapness (no heal/regen pots or buff begging) bandaging to 70% espexially with cheap/free summond bandaids ir works. Amybe not a min/max strat but it works.

Flame on.

[svelto]

Well, thank you all for the responses. I decided not to bother with it after I read all these replies.

[RobotGraveyard]

I mean, I solo'd my cleric to 60 like 90% of the time and loved bind wound the entire way. I didn't use it very much mid-levels as I was nuking a ton, but by 40 it was also maxed and once I got to 56 and was solo'ing in the hole, I maxed it out again for that sweet sweet up to 70% bonus. Also, it's fun to complete heal lowbies with one bandage.

[Penish]

I mean, I solo'd my cleric to 60 like 90% of the time and loved bind wound the entire way. I didn't use it very much mid-levels as I was nuking a ton, but by 40 it was also maxed and once I got to 56 and was solo'ing in the hole, I maxed it out again for that sweet sweet up to 70% bonus. Also, it's fun to complete heal lowbies with one bandage.

as long as you're having fun, also lol

[Toxigen]

I mean, I solo'd my cleric to 60 like 90% of the time and loved bind wound the entire way. I didn't use it very much mid-levels as I was nuking a ton, but by 40 it was also maxed and once I got to 56 and was solo'ing in the hole, I maxed it out again for that sweet sweet up to 70% bonus. Also, it's fun to complete heal lowbies with one bandage.



not that the solo journey is wrong...


...but if you just looked for an enchanter to duo with...

[Snaggles]

Max skill a bandage heals 84hps per click, if 10 seconds that’s 8.4hp/second
Donal’s arms heal 200hp with a 12secons click, that’s 16.6 hps/second.

Or just heal to full, head to the kitchen for a snack and come back with way more mana than you left with. All while clicking only once.

Do whatever you want but of those three options clicking my bind wound button ad nauseam while having less time to med is the least appealing one.

[Estrang87]

This.

I mean, if you really get out in the weeds it is not like it has *zero value …

But in this case the simple answer is the most relevant.

Work on your bind would if you’re the type of completionist that wants all skills maxed I guess

Isnt it always zero value for priest class? At what point is binding a wound superior to a med tick?

[Jimjam]

Isnt it always zero value for priest class? At what point is binding a wound superior to a med tick?

Heal without breaking invis.