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Keebz
02-19-2024, 04:11 PM
Ok I finally made a Paladin and got level 10 yesterday—max CHA HiE. I am very familiar with the EXP super highway for grinding as fast as earthly possible, but want to do something off the beaten path this time around.

Tentatively I'm planning to go to the warrens around 15 once I get soothe and maybe capping that out before dicking around stonebrunt (literally never been to that zone). I also haven't done most of the Kunark mid-level dungeons outside farming goblin skins / VP keys. Not sure if there's something fun there. I'm hoping with high CHA, I can crawl dungeons and with stun I can do some casters, which I never have bothered with—generally on melees I stick to non-casters. High level, I'm thinking LGuK maybe as I've done the other options to death, but open to reccos ofc.

I've got Fungi/34% haste, OK tunnel gear for other slots, no crazy weapons yet, but maybe 50k laying around and other means. I think I'm probably just getting an herbalist spade at 30 since I want to attack undead shit.

Looking for tips/tricks, cool leveling spots, quests, must have items, etc. Caveat: I haven't raided in over a year, so maybe don't recommend raid gear.

DeathsSilkyMist
02-19-2024, 04:53 PM
Tower of Frozen Shadow is a really fun zone when you get into your 30's. Plenty of undead to unleash all of your Paladin skills on, and it's not usually crowded. It can take you to level 50 at least.

Corpse recovery can be a pain though, since you need the keys to get to each floor of the zone.

jolanar
02-19-2024, 09:49 PM
I don't think lull opens up anything that isn't already busted wide open by fungi/haste/good weapon until 40+.

Since you are already in Warrens, probably worth checking out the undead guards in Paineel if you haven't done those before.

ScottBerta
02-19-2024, 10:15 PM
Kurns tower is money with your gear from like 10-20

Snaggles
02-19-2024, 11:16 PM
Your setup now will easily take you to 45. After that get a DW BP and literally go anywhere you want.

Keebz
02-19-2024, 11:42 PM
Kurns tower is money with your gear from like 10-20

Oh good call, I haven't really done Kurns much aside from entrance. I think I'm committed to Warrens for this char, but my next toon will be Iksar. Will add that to the do list.

Your setup now will easily take you to 45. After that get a DW BP and literally go anywhere you want.

Well I’m trying to figure out where I want to go for the journey to 45. Places off the beaten path with an emphasis on cool and less on efficiency. Suggestions for post 45+ are welcome as well.

Toxigen
02-20-2024, 06:58 AM
warrens --> perma --> CT/Paw

Balimon
02-20-2024, 06:49 PM
I solo'd 90% of the way to 60 on my pally, so I'm not sure if this will be interesting or not. Paladins are way better soloers then people think, anyway here's my leveling path on a high elf pally:

1-12 Steamfont
12-15 Warrens
15-26 Kurns
26-30 Najena - a skeleton camp
30-36 ToFS - 1st and 3rd floor
36-42 Mistmoore - Caitiff area + gargs
42-46 Dreadlands - Yeti caves
46-50 Crystal Caverns - Terrors and Goes
50-52 SolB - Kobold royals
52-54 Neriak 3rd Gate - cleric guards
54-59 LGuk and KC - alternated zones and diff camps. LGuk way better exp
59-60 HS - basement, north

The only thing is do different would skip KC and go-to HS at 57 instead. Exp there is insanely good and it's not that scary as a pally, bring a charged cap for emergencies, DW bp a must as well.

Best tip I can give ya is to remember that you can root camp aggro, it's an amazing tool and I can't tell you how many times it saved me in a tight spot. Circle behind mobs when bashing for interupts, it will land more. Camp yourself a luminary sword once you hit mid 40s and buy some cheap cha gear, like jester crown. You'll need 150 Cha for easy paci and 200 for real situations. Good luck!

Keebz
02-21-2024, 12:37 AM
I solo'd 90% of the way to 60 on my pally, so I'm not sure if this will be interesting or not. Paladins are way better soloers then people think, anyway here's my leveling path on a high elf pally:

1-12 Steamfont
12-15 Warrens
15-26 Kurns
26-30 Najena - a skeleton camp
30-36 ToFS - 1st and 3rd floor
36-42 Mistmoore - Caitiff area + gargs
42-46 Dreadlands - Yeti caves
46-50 Crystal Caverns - Terrors and Goes
50-52 SolB - Kobold royals
52-54 Neriak 3rd Gate - cleric guards
54-59 LGuk and KC - alternated zones and diff camps. LGuk way better exp
59-60 HS - basement, north

The only thing is do different would skip KC and go-to HS at 57 instead. Exp there is insanely good and it's not that scary as a pally, bring a charged cap for emergencies, DW bp a must as well.

Best tip I can give ya is to remember that you can root camp aggro, it's an amazing tool and I can't tell you how many times it saved me in a tight spot. Circle behind mobs when bashing for interupts, it will land more. Camp yourself a luminary sword once you hit mid 40s and buy some cheap cha gear, like jester crown. You'll need 150 Cha for easy paci and 200 for real situations. Good luck!

This is great thanks. I'll probably do something pretty similar.

Naethyn
02-21-2024, 02:38 AM
Loot a craslith, yelinak talisman, and full ss and then go to unrest.

Keebz
02-21-2024, 04:40 AM
Loot a craslith, yelinak talisman, and full ss and then go to unrest.

This doesn't work for me for many reasons, but I understand why you had to post this.

spoil
02-21-2024, 03:19 PM
54-59 LGuk and KC - alternated zones and diff camps. LGuk way better exp
59-60 HS - basement, north

What camp(s) in lguk? My pally is exactly 54, probably not as well-geared but I have fungi, dw bp, seahorse belt, reaver/herbalist's spade.

Sizar
02-21-2024, 07:56 PM
What camp(s) in lguk? My pally is exactly 54, probably not as well-geared but I have fungi, dw bp, seahorse belt, reaver/herbalist's spade.

Dead side camp you would want is anywhere from Hand / Arch Magi on the way to Lord. Live side would be King and around that area

Balimon
02-21-2024, 09:41 PM
What camp(s) in lguk? My pally is exactly 54, probably not as well-geared but I have fungi, dw bp, seahorse belt, reaver/herbalist's spade.

Hand, AM, Lord hall is the sweet spot. You could do frenzy/sent as well. Your gear is fine! My gear wasn't that great leveling up but I stacked AC with sky belt, dawncaller, and DW bp. That was enough to handle it no problem, I eventually started doing Lord room at 57/58.

spoil
02-21-2024, 11:58 PM
I don't know live side very well, so I'll try that area near the safe hall.

jolanar
02-22-2024, 08:19 AM
Starting around 25 you can quest yourself a Ghoulbane for your epic. Has you going to a few different good exp camps from 25 to 30.

In your mid 40s you can camp Xicotle in Mistmoore for Soulfire.

Keebz
02-22-2024, 03:48 PM
Starting around 25 you can quest yourself a Ghoulbane for your epic. Has you going to a few different good exp camps from 25 to 30.

In your mid 40s you can camp Xicotle in Mistmoore for Soulfire.

Oh sweet. Will do that. Firery Swords are definitely on the menu.

jolanar
02-23-2024, 08:07 AM
Oh sweet. Will do that. Firery Swords are definitely on the menu.

Fiery sword > Even more fiery sword > Fieryest sword

Ennewi
02-23-2024, 09:22 AM
Fryer sword. Otherwise raw meat on loot table is cooked, no baking skill required.

Toxigen
02-23-2024, 09:50 AM
Fiery Frog Fryer Flamberge

Ennewi
02-23-2024, 02:46 PM
fiery frying firangi of the friar

htabdoolb
02-25-2024, 12:42 AM
Here's the mostly solo path I've taken with my paladin, which I have enjoyed.

I got to 15 or 16 in Crushbone, since I like killing orcs anyway and love hanging out in gfay.

Then I moved to Highpass, killing mucktail gnolls until 25 or 26. You'll likely have this all to yourself if you try it, which is great because they start greening out in the early twenties and you'll have to clear the whole canyon of them to make up for it. Good faction gains, not that you'll really need them as a Paladin. But it is fun to see the Karana Bandits slowly come around to seeing your point of view, because apparently even the dastardly thieves of the Karanas have standards that the pathetic mucktails fail to live up to.

The normal move after this would be to join in on goblin killing in Highkeep, but I've done that before and wasn't interested in repeating the experience. So I tooled around in Mistmoore and a few other random zone searching for something interesting until the low thirties, when I finally found SolA.

SolA took me from 33 or so to 42, and was both great fun and very profitable. The goblins drop Fine Steel weapons and High Quality ores, which can be sold to the gnomes in the same zone with ease. This is a great zone for mastering Paladin pulling and crowd control with lull and root, since the gobbies are packed in like sardines. Imagine if Highkeep's basement was an entire zone, and you have SolA.

At 42 I tried Spectres, and found them quite boring. I decided to go to Lguk instead, and found a home at the Assassin/Supplier camp until about 50 when almost everything had finally greened out. Also a very profitable place to adventure, as the bag and belt the Supplier drops can be easily auctioned off for plat for upgrades.

I'm currently about to hit 52, still down in Lguk just a bit deeper in the zone, where things spawn at a higher level. I expect to make at least 55 here, and maybe even more. After that, I'll find somewhere else I'm sure.

Toxigen
02-25-2024, 06:24 PM
yes such an interesting leveling path

Sweeper41
02-28-2024, 03:52 PM
Your setup now will easily take you to 45. After that get a DW BP and literally go anywhere you want.

Dont need a Bp. just get the helm it will save you a ton of cash in the long run.

Balimon
02-28-2024, 11:56 PM
Dont need a Bp. just get the helm it will save you a ton of cash in the long run.

The exp per hour is significantly lower with the helm vs. the BP, most places you level at will cover the cost of the jaspers.The helm is 130 hp in 10 seconds for 780 hp a minute versus the BP at 307 hp in 10 seconds for 1842 hp a minute. There's no contest there, and if you're battle healing with a mob rooted you don't have time to use the helm.

The best answer is to have both, however the BP is so absolutely overpowered, why would you limit yourself?

Snaggles
02-29-2024, 09:20 PM
Exactly. Even using cheap root if you can get two clicks you just got back 600hps for 30 mana. With Enstill you can heal to full.

I won’t knock the helm, it’s still great and cheap. Especially in your 40’s or when plunking around in easy spots. The BP works with POTG and heals 60% as good as Torp. You can tackle some downright difficult solo spots.

tankmankels
06-30-2024, 04:20 PM
I am very familiar with the EXP super highway for grinding as fast as earthly possible, but want to do something off the beaten path this time around.

What is this Super highway you speak of/

Surpent
06-30-2024, 04:52 PM
Exactly. Even using cheap root if you can get two clicks you just got back 600hps for 30 mana. With Enstill you can heal to full.

I won’t knock the helm, it’s still great and cheap. Especially in your 40’s or when plunking around in easy spots. The BP works with POTG and heals 60% as good as Torp. You can tackle some downright difficult solo spots.

Only using root and dw bp to heal, you can go insanely long soloing on a pally. Even a crit lull resist of 4-5 mobs. Just root and heal with bp between mobs.

Vexenu
06-30-2024, 07:56 PM
The exp per hour is significantly lower with the helm vs. the BP, most places you level at will cover the cost of the jaspers.The helm is 130 hp in 10 seconds for 780 hp a minute versus the BP at 307 hp in 10 seconds for 1842 hp a minute. There's no contest there, and if you're battle healing with a mob rooted you don't have time to use the helm.

The best answer is to have both, however the BP is so absolutely overpowered, why would you limit yourself?
The BP is definitely worth the plat, but the Helm is underappreciated, and given its low price, it is unquestionably one of the strongest items in the game in terms of its cost/power ratio.

Consider the cost of a pre-nerf Fungus Staff (heals 150 hp per min) or a Zlandicar's Heart (heals 50 hp per minute). Then contrast with a 500pp item that heals 780 hp per minute. I mean, I certainly wouldn't advise it (for reasons of ego and sanity), but in a pinch you can basically play main healer for an XP group with a DW helm. It's a pretty crazy item for how cheap and easily acquired it is.

Jimjam
07-01-2024, 02:22 AM
Those items are more passive heals, you can do other stuff at the same time. With clicklies you may be able to bandage while casting at most.

Idk about main healing with Daring (10 sec). I’ve found Valour (12 sec) can run out of steam in the 50s, and there is a sacrifice of having the target wear a lower level buff.

Naethyn
07-01-2024, 02:32 PM
55 paladin with both helm and bp and I use the helm way more because I don't want to have to vendor.

spoil
07-01-2024, 11:42 PM
That's why you have a druid or something.

Snaggles
07-02-2024, 12:32 AM
Being able to BP heal with PoTG is the real win. You can even buy Jasper’s in Thurg.

Every time I get a DW BP I say I’ll never sell it and then find a reason why 23k is better. The helm is nice to have though. 1/3rd the healing for 1.7% the price is a good deal.