New to p99 what class is most needed?

[Kaakkarott]

As the title suggest I am new to Project 99 and wanted to know what class is most needed for grouping up. Also raids? About me- I am a veteran player of all TLPs but I wanted to experience my original EQ days. I received EQ for Christmas in 99 and played until 04. I then picked the game up again in 2017. Now I wish to play the 99. I am currently on the green server but can change easily for the right game play. With that said, what are the classes missing from the daily grind groups, what is needed? What classes are missing from the raids? I have played them all and epiced all toons (-Rog). Just looking to dive in to a useful class. And if all else fails I'll just return to my roots and play a necro. Thanks and hope to see you out there!

[Rader]

Cleric

[spoil]

Welcome. It's a pretty long grind to 60 compared to TLP so I would recommend going with your favorite class. Necro would be a good choice for a first character, not at all gear-dependent, strong soloer and a lot of group utility anywhere you can charm.

[Keebz]

All the guilds will have cleric bots for you to play if your class isn't useful for the encounter. Raiding guilds really just want chill competent people. Highly suggest playing whatever you want. Since you mentioned it, Necro is generally useful with twitches and they'll love you if you know how to use DA and pets to move mobs around in ToV.

[Jimjam]

Berserker for snare that isn't based on spell resist.

[Toxigen]

play w/e you want its elf sim 2024

[WarpathEQ]

Pretty much any class is needed for grouping because there aren't a ton of active grouping spots at this point in the P99 servers, groups are pretty much just take whoever is available and figure it out. It's good to play a class that doesn't rely on grouping 100% which ultimately can be any class but some require some pretty solid gearing to solo at high levels (I think most agree rogue being the toughest to solo to 60)

For raiding I would say Rogue would be #1 followed by Cleric for need as you basically can never have too many of these classes on raids and often guilds are asking people to switch to bots of these classes at the high end of the game. Aside from those 2 most raid compositions just require 1-4 of any of the other classes.

[cd288]

As others have said, if you're joining one of the top raid guilds then class need isn't a huge factor as they've already leveled up Cleric and other bots for people to play if needed. So the class you pick doesn't matter as much, although being somebody who doesn't need to play a bot because your class is helpful is a little bit of a plus but not hugely necessary.

As far as EXP grouping, Cleric will definitely be needed from like 40+ on since it's harder for Druids and Shamans to MH higher end EXP content. Enchanter is obviously another big one for the sweet mana regen, great CC< and awesome charmed NPC DPS.

One class that people haven't really mentioned yet is Bard. A good Bard is useful on multiple raid encounters and you're also a huge boon to any group if you know what you're doing (great pullers, you have Charm and mez songs, and your buff songs for twisting). Plus if you can't find a group and you get the hang of swarm kiting you can level really fast and get yourself into that raid guild.

[Toxigen]

bard / enc / shaman / necro

pick 1

[eqravenprince]

A necro that joins groups.

[enjchanter]

the only underplayed classes are the classes ppl dont generally want anyway. Theres not really like a "this class is OP if played well but its got a high skill floor". All classes in this game are close to brain dead simple to play.

Some guilds will occasionally complain about lack of Divine Strength from paladins i guess. So probably that but even then its not like theyll be throwing dkp packages at you because youre x class.

And youll probably get alot of groups as a cleric just because healer, but at the top end every guild is flooded with cleric bots and most players eventually make their own pocket rezzer anyway so theres far far farrrr from a shortage of clerics.

[Kaakkarott]

Hey everyone thanks for the advice and feedback. I began a Necro Ikky, on Green and have played a few 3hr sessions. So far and I have had a blast! I got to level 9 and have found several other necros hanging out in the pit to group with. I really enjoy the classic feel of the game. Two quick questions. 1. Who are the leveling guilds and how do I join them? 2. If there is no general chat how on earth do I find people outside of my current zone to group with or chat with? Thanks again everyone for the feedback and if you ever run across a Necro named Lucidi that's me!

[cd288]

Hey everyone thanks for the advice and feedback. I began a Necro Ikky, on Green and have played a few 3hr sessions. So far and I have had a blast! I got to level 9 and have found several other necros hanging out in the pit to group with. I really enjoy the classic feel of the game. Two quick questions. 1. Who are the leveling guilds and how do I join them? 2. If there is no general chat how on earth do I find people outside of my current zone to group with or chat with? Thanks again everyone for the feedback and if you ever run across a Necro named Lucidi that's me!

You may recall from old school EQ that for grouping you just have to put /lfg on and hope someone messages you or go to the zone you want to group in and put LFG in /ooc periodically (assuming there are groups going on in the zone). Sometimes doing a /who for specific classes and a level range and sending people random tells can be productive in getting a leveling group going.

There is global guild chat once you're in a guild. But no global general chat.

[Toxigen]

Hey everyone thanks for the advice and feedback. I began a Necro Ikky, on Green and have played a few 3hr sessions. So far and I have had a blast! I got to level 9 and have found several other necros hanging out in the pit to group with. I really enjoy the classic feel of the game. Two quick questions. 1. Who are the leveling guilds and how do I join them? 2. If there is no general chat how on earth do I find people outside of my current zone to group with or chat with? Thanks again everyone for the feedback and if you ever run across a Necro named Lucidi that's me!

also /who all is a good tool

just / should bring up a list of people in your current zone

say you're level 20 and want to group, can do "/who all 18 22" and that will give you all the folks in that level range....can send em a tell and see whats up

and /ooc is zone wide chat

[Kaakkarott]

Excellent, I had forgotten about those tools. I will give that a go. Thank you.

[rhold]

/ all 18 22 works the same. It does need the space.

[Videri]

OP, it might interest you to do “/who all ranger count,” “/who all druid count,” etc. You can check the numbers. Wait til you see enchanter and necro, oh boy. Though some classes are unpopular for reasons. Anyway, maybe those stats will be food for though.

[sajbert]

Don't worry about raiding. Guilds will take just about any high level character and you can always play cleric bots too if your main is useless. Outside of dork monks and warriors who typically do key things like tanking you really can't make or break (without effort) most fights, well unless maybe you fuck up the heal chain as a cleric. Guilds generally do however want rogues, clerics, dragonbane wizards and I find there's always people asking for another chanter or two.

For groups I'd say anything goes outside of wizards and druids and maybe rangers and necros even though rangers and necros can be legit good in groups (especially if ranger is geared). I'd say enchanter and cleric is still king. Most of the time you don't actually need a tank when lvl 30 monks run around with 200kpp worth of gear.

[Jimjam]

Its often classes that ‘have no raid role’ which I find missing from raids. Things like paladins, rangers, even shaman and enchanters. Of course the truth is these do have valuable raid roles, but people don’t want to be boosting other players tanking or dps when they could just bring their own chart topping dps instead.

[Toxigen]

Its often classes that ‘have no raid role’ which I find missing from raids. Things like paladins, rangers, even shaman and enchanters. Of course the truth is these do have valuable raid roles, but people don’t want to be boosting other players tanking or dps when they could just bring their own chart topping dps instead.

wat

[Jimjam]

People don't like buffing or dieing casting slow.

[Toxigen]

People don't like buffing or dieing casting slow.

it doesnt pull aggro like it used to

[Jimjam]

it doesnt pull aggro like it used to
Oh cool, have people been more inclined to play their slowers instead of their mindless autoattack?

[Vivitron]

Its often classes that ‘have no raid role’ which I find missing from raids. Things like paladins, rangers, even shaman and enchanters. Of course the truth is these do have valuable raid roles, but people don’t want to be boosting other players tanking or dps when they could just bring their own chart topping dps instead.
I have an alternate explanation for this:

Week 1: "we don't need 6 of X can some of you swap?"

Week 2: "we don't have any X can someone swap?"

[Jimjam]

I have an alternate explanation for this:

Week 1: "we don't need 6 of X can some of you swap?"

Week 2: "we don't have any X can someone swap?"

Hah, there is an element of this 😅 of course either way the mob dies and loot is gotten.

[zelld52]

it doesnt pull aggro like it used to

not on a land, but the resist aggro is beefy. 7 minutes of slow aggro all at once

[Videri]

Hey everyone thanks for the advice and feedback. I began a Necro Ikky, on Green and have played a few 3hr sessions. So far and I have had a blast! I got to level 9 and have found several other necros hanging out in the pit to group with. I really enjoy the classic feel of the game. Two quick questions. 1. Who are the leveling guilds and how do I join them? 2. If there is no general chat how on earth do I find people outside of my current zone to group with or chat with? Thanks again everyone for the feedback and if you ever run across a Necro named Lucidi that's me!

1. All guilds will gladly invite you, but I’ll bet the guilds with the most people to group with in the 1-50 range will be Ancient Blood (Iksar-only), Friendly Druids, Mutiny, Safe Space, or Castle. Other guilds might exist too.

2. Manually. Ideas:
• not everyone uses /lfg on, but if they do:
/w all 20 30 lfg

• need a tank? Do all of the following:
/w all warrior 20 30
/w all paladin 20 30
/w all shadow 20 30
/w all monk 20 30
Maybe ranger too

• looking for people of level near you? Check all nearby zones:
/w all warslik 20 30
/w all overthere 20 30
/w all cab 20 30 (that should check both east and west btw)
/w all field 20 30

hth

[Toxigen]

not on a land, but the resist aggro is beefy. 7 minutes of slow aggro all at once

no shit?

TL box slow group 4tw!

[zelld52]

no shit?

TL box slow group 4tw!

no regard for shaman as such. just take the rez and spend the next 4 minutes casting cannibalize and torpor

I think i figured out why noone plays shaman on raids lol

[Toxigen]

no regard for shaman as such. just take the rez and spend the next 4 minutes casting cannibalize and torpor

I think i figured out why noone plays shaman on raids lol

yeah that sounds awful

we used to do a group of slowers w/ a mage and wiz...insta tash, take TL box, coth back up

slow lands, rips aggro, TL box, coth back, etc

again only really necessary on quakes / competitive engages but most of the shit is just trained away i guess now

[Rader]

Yes guilds have cleric bots so ultimately play whatever the F you want

But to get to the end game, clerics and enchanters are the most needed classes and will have the easiest time getting groups. Necros and shamen solo well, but if that is your path, then you wouldn't be posting this thread, would you?

[Kaakkarott]

I'm looking to run a solo necro for the down time and a Enchanter for grouping and raiding.

[enjchanter]

yeah that sounds awful

we used to do a group of slowers w/ a mage and wiz...insta tash, take TL box, coth back up

slow lands, rips aggro, TL box, coth back, etc

again only really necessary on quakes / competitive engages but most of the shit is just trained away i guess now

Fuck that I'll die and take the free responder dkp

[Videri]

yeah that sounds awful

we used to do a group of slowers w/ a mage and wiz...insta tash, take TL box, coth back up

slow lands, rips aggro, TL box, coth back, etc

again only really necessary on quakes / competitive engages but most of the shit is just trained away i guess now

Stealing this idea for my guild.

[Toxigen]

Stealing this idea for my guild.

it certainly speeds things up when theres a lot of flurries to take care of

[Rader]

it certainly speeds things up when theres a lot of flurries to take care of

furries can be a lot of fun

[Jimjam]

furries can be a lot of fun

Most raid zones wolf form can’t be cast. Where does that take us? Back to enchanter (Boon of Garou).

[putrid_plum]

Play what you enjoy not what you think you should play for someone else

[Drueric]

OP asks what class is most needed... picks a solo class that is the most common, and not needed...

[WarpathEQ]

I'm looking to run a solo necro for the down time and a Enchanter for grouping and raiding.

In what world is an enchanter one of the most critical classes for raiding? There are few encounters where having more than 1 enchanter is critical.

Think about the head count of what you see in a typical raid force.

Cleric and Rogue outnumber everything else on the majority of raid targets. Therefore cleric and rogue would be the most needed classes.

Also anyone that suggests having an enchanter main and needed a seperate class for solo'ing is sus.

[Toxigen]

There are few encounters where having more than 1 enchanter is critical.



debatable

[Jimjam]

There are few encounters where having more than 1 enchanter is critical.

Every raid should have an equal number of enchanters to melees so the melee force is an awesome looking horde of werewolves!

[PatChapp]

If you don't have 2-3 enchanters crawling around tov takes forever. 1 enchanter sieving everything,? Good luck getting any kills

[magnetaress]

Every raid should have an equal number of enchanters to melees so the melee force is an awesome looking horde of werewolves!

Yep. Or scarecrows.

[Toxigen]

If you don't have 2-3 enchanters crawling around tov takes forever. 1 enchanter sieving everything,? Good luck getting any kills

not to mention fear / kael / pog where pet dps is best dps

guy clearly doesnt raid

[bobjonesp99]

while only having 1 enchanter would be limiting in some places (VP for all the buffs and sieves, Kael/Fear for pet DPS, Eashen for paci, Vox/Gore/Gozz for sieves) its not incorrect that they dont scale as well as other classes outside of those places. You cant use charm pets to kill Tunare anymore, and most people on green engage in the Tunare cheese strat so they dont bother zone clearing.

[WarpathEQ]

Apparently the word Critical is hard to understand or a trigger term. I said Critical not optimal.


not to mention fear / kael / pog where pet dps is best dps

guy clearly doesnt raid

Calls someone out for not knowing the raid scene while displaying he doesn't know the raid scene. Pet DPS on Tunare?!? its 2024

[Toxigen]

yeah its been a while, sorry im not raiding elf sim in 2024 hope this helps