Is the kunark clicky breastplates heal worth it?

[Tobius]

Especially for my warrior and lesser extent bard?

Also does this make iksar regen breastplate pointless? As you can't wear both at the same time?

[Jimjam]

You can switch them out based on scenario. That said the ikky doesn’t have so much ac or stats- I think I’d go with the Cobalt. Consider Berserker armour if you have access to a guild which does Plane of Growth trash.

[Tobius]

You can switch them out based on scenario. That said the ikky doesn’t have so much ac or stats- I think I’d go with the Cobalt. Consider Berserker armour if you have access to a guild which does Plane of Growth trash.

Huh never heard of that stuff.

[Solist]

Especially for my warrior and lesser extent bard?

Also does this make iksar regen breastplate pointless? As you can't wear both at the same time?

Invigorate is faster to heal up than using a fungi and sitting down, by a large margin.

And the AC on them would arguably make you take less damage than an ikky would regen. Fungi probably better face to face in most situations.

[Andyman1022]

FWIW the bard Trakanon BP (Singing Steel) is uber. It has a 6 second cast time and you can cast while moving!

[Solist]

Same for rog. But movement is not advised.

[enjchanter]

the bard one is 100% worth it
the rest are meh, could be nice if you solo i guess

[WarpathEQ]

Fungi is generally considered better as it gives you the ability to heal during battle so you can fight and survive against tougher targets, especially solo. The clicky BP is generally best in class for (melee) self healing outside of battle.

The Bard one is the most OP because of how quickly it casts, the fact that you can move while casting (only class that can) and that you can auto attack while casting (only class that can) so there is potential for a bard to use this in battle and not just between fights although it will interfere with how many songs you can twist. For mobs you can mez, you can basically fight them forever, twisting between mez and clicky heals to get to full HP and then unload until you need to heal again and repeat.

[skulldudes]

bard, rogue, and pally bps are outrageously good

[knottyb0y]

bard, rogue, and pally bps are outrageously good

What makes the paladin BP so good?

[Solist]

Because it heals 22hp/sec offline. Or 9 times more than a fungi + sitting down.

And costs nearly nothing except a bag full of cheap gems.

[skulldudes]

^^all that, and the safety net of being able to root park a mob and rapidly heal to full mid-battle if you get a nasty string of chunky hits is not to be understated

[Toxigen]

What makes the paladin BP so good?

enables solo paladin

its amazing...use fungi in combat and BP up to near full after every fight

veddi gud

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The invigorate BP's with 15 second cast times like Warrior and Shadowknight BP's heal 90 HP 4x per minute when spammed, or 360 HP a minute. Fungi Tunic heals for 150 HP a minute. 157/168 if you are sitting, depending on race.

Invigorate BP's are good for out of combat healing as it is 2x faster than Fungi, even when sitting. The invigorate BP's also have better AC, so they can sometimes save you more HP than 150 per minute in combat.

Some invigorate BP's like Cobalt and Thurgadin quested BP's are cheaper than a Fungi Tunic, so they are a good alternative for solo healing cost-wise if you can't afford a Fungi Tunic. With the price drops on Blue at least the price gap is closing though.

If you can afford both, just switch between the two as needed. If you are a Shadowknight, put Fungi on when you are meditating, as you can't click the BP while sitting. Also put it on when you FD after a bad pull, so you can recover HP while on the ground faster. It's good while fear kiting as well, since you aren't taking a lot of damage anyway. You can passively recover HP while chasing the mob.

[Ennewi]

What makes the paladin BP so good?

And it can also be used to heal other players. Group lom/hp after wiping/rezzing? DWBP so the cleric can preserve their mana. Torpless raid shaman getting buff requests? DWBP so they can keep spamming canni. While leveling, just make sure you're bound in a city with jewelry merchants, that way you can stock up on jaspers after taking a duel death, and get rezzed back in before the timer expires.

[skulldudes]

And it can also be used to heal other players. Group lom/hp after wiping/rezzing? DWBP so the cleric can preserve their mana. Torpless raid shaman getting buff requests? DWBP so they can keep spamming canni. While leveling, just make sure you're bound in a city with jewelry merchants, that way you can stock up on jaspers after taking a duel death, and get rezzed back in before the timer expires.

damn i didn't even realize it wasn't self-only, 11/10 A+++

[cd288]

I would always go fungi if I had to choose one or the other. Depending how geared you are as a melee otherwise (as well as class/race too obviously) a fungi can sometimes be the difference in you being able to solo certain mobs for EXP or not (not always, but sometimes). That alone is worth it to me if you're set on wanting more solo flexibility as a melee.

BP is nice if you're able to, for instance, keep a camp split because you can heal yourself between short spawns. Or obviously if you can't otherwise regen up in like 6:40 if you're camping a solo spawn.

[Keebz]

The invigorate BP's with 15 second cast times like Warrior and Shadowknight BP...

FYI https://wiki.project1999.com/Blood_Ember_Breastplate casts Major Shielding.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

FYI https://wiki.project1999.com/Blood_Ember_Breastplate casts Major Shielding.

I know. I am referring to the Velious BP's https://wiki.project1999.com/Dark_Runed_Breastplate , which have Invigorate for SK's. I said "Some invigorate BP's like Cobalt and Thurgadin quested BP's" in my post too.

I would always go fungi if I had to choose one or the other. Depending how geared you are as a melee otherwise (as well as class/race too obviously) a fungi can sometimes be the difference in you being able to solo certain mobs for EXP or not (not always, but sometimes). That alone is worth it to me if you're set on wanting more solo flexibility as a melee.

BP is nice if you're able to, for instance, keep a camp split because you can heal yourself between short spawns. Or obviously if you can't otherwise regen up in like 6:40 if you're camping a solo spawn.

Agreed. Fungi Tunic typically has the edge due to recovering HP during the fight, and it's ability to recover HP while you are meditating on a class with mana. It is surprising how well the 15 second Invigorate BP does, considering some of them are much cheaper than a Fungi Tunic. Cobalt BP is only 10k on blue, for example.

Let's say you are fighting a mob that deals 8 DPS, and it takes 3 minutes to kill the mob. This means you will take ~1500 damage in the fight:

1. Fungi Tunic would take ~5 minutes total to recover that HP if you are a Troll/Iksar at level 60. You would recover (150 HP/Min from Fungi Regen + 120 HP/Min from Racial Standing) x 3 minutes = 810 HP during the 3 minute fight, and (15 HP/Min from Fungi Regen + 18 HP/Min from Racial Sitting) x 2 minutes = 660 HP. (810 + 660) = 1470 HP recovered in 5 minutes.

2. 15 second Invigorate BP's would take ~5.25 minutes total to recover that HP if you are a Troll/Iksar at level 60. You would recover (120 HP/Min from Racial Standing) x 3 minutes = 360 HP during the 3 minute fight, and (120 HP/Min from Racial Standing + 360 HP/Min from Invigorate) x 2.25 minutes = 1080 HP. (360 + 1080) = 1440 HP recovered in 5.25 minutes.

With the extra AC on Cobalt BP, you would probably end up recovering in 5 minutes on average from the extra bit of damage reduction you would get. This means Cobalt BP is probably equal to Fungi Tunic in terms of solo kills per hour on Warriors at least. They don't have to worry about meditating mana back (sitting) or regenerating while FD. Cobalt BP is a great tool for Warriors 45+ who can't afford a Fungi Tunic.

If you can get a velious BP from your guild, that would only be 9k if you needed to buy the flawless diamonds. So that is also a good deal cost-wise when you can't afford a Fungi Tunic on classes like SK/Monk.

[Snaggles]

Pally BP is 307 in 10 seconds. It’s 60% as fast healing as torp and isn’t blocked by PoTG.

For Iksars some of the cobalt stuff is decent. A little str off the boots. Shielding spell with MR on the arms. Cheap invig BP (price of 3 flawless diamonds) you can resell when you get better. Targetable invis legs, shrink bracer (the best piece).

[Andyman1022]

+1 for deepwater bp being an incredibly fun item. I find the most fun items in the game to be mana free healing/damage items.

[cd288]

I know. I am referring to the Velious BP's https://wiki.project1999.com/Dark_Runed_Breastplate , which have Invigorate for SK's. I said "Some invigorate BP's like Cobalt and Thurgadin quested BP's" in my post too.



Agreed. Fungi Tunic typically has the edge due to recovering HP during the fight, and it's ability to recover HP while you are meditating on a class with mana. It is surprising how well the 15 second Invigorate BP does, considering some of them are much cheaper than a Fungi Tunic. Cobalt BP is only 10k on blue, for example.

Let's say you are fighting a mob that deals 8 DPS, and it takes 3 minutes to kill the mob. This means you will take ~1500 damage in the fight:

1. Fungi Tunic would take ~5 minutes total to recover that HP if you are a Troll/Iksar at level 60. You would recover (150 HP/Min from Fungi Regen + 120 HP/Min from Racial Standing) x 3 minutes = 810 HP during the 3 minute fight, and (15 HP/Min from Fungi Regen + 18 HP/Min from Racial Sitting) x 2 minutes = 660 HP. (810 + 660) = 1470 HP recovered in 5 minutes.

2. 15 second Invigorate BP's would take ~5.25 minutes total to recover that HP if you are a Troll/Iksar at level 60. You would recover (120 HP/Min from Racial Standing) x 3 minutes = 360 HP during the 3 minute fight, and (120 HP/Min from Racial Standing + 360 HP/Min from Invigorate) x 2.25 minutes = 1080 HP. (360 + 1080) = 1440 HP recovered in 5.25 minutes.

With the extra AC on Cobalt BP, you would probably end up recovering in 5 minutes on average from the extra bit of damage reduction you would get. This means Cobalt BP is probably equal to Fungi Tunic in terms of solo kills per hour on Warriors at least. They don't have to worry about meditating mana back (sitting) or regenerating while FD. Cobalt BP is a great tool for Warriors 45+ who can't afford a Fungi Tunic.

If you can get a velious BP from your guild, that would only be 9k if you needed to buy the flawless diamonds. So that is also a good deal cost-wise when you can't afford a Fungi Tunic on classes like SK/Monk.

Yeah for sure. Assuming you can kill the mob without needing the HP regen during the fight then nothing wrong with going with the BP. Just gives some more flexibility at higher levels when soloing in terms of number of camps you can do (for example, even with a TStaff on an Iksar monk who was well geared, there were definitely quite a few fights vs the bodyguards in HK for example where I wouldn't have been able to finish the fight against one of them if I didn't have a fungi and mend was down).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah for sure. Assuming you can kill the mob without needing the HP regen during the fight then nothing wrong with going with the BP. Just gives some more flexibility at higher levels when soloing in terms of number of camps you can do (for example, even with a TStaff on an Iksar monk who was well geared, there were definitely quite a few fights vs the bodyguards in HK for example where I wouldn't have been able to finish the fight against one of them if I didn't have a fungi and mend was down).

Indeed. On Monks especially Fungi is nice, because Monks have lower max HP than Knights/Warriors generally speaking. This makes the Fungi Regen during combat more noticeable at times.

[Jimjam]

Yeah, the lower max hp is a thing. Monks have great avoidance and mitigation. Potentially better than plate tanks. In that situation they’re likely to take less damage overall, but if they get unlucky with a few spikes then that will represent a much greater portion of their health than on an equivalent plate tank due to monk lower max hp.

I find the best contingency for those spikes is either resetting the fight or quaff some heal pots. Sure, you’ll lose pp on a specific fight where you drink some potions, but most fights won’t spike your hp, so won’t require emergency healing.You should still net pp overall (enough to cover costs) and won’t have to break your rhythm / lose camp (unlike resetting).

[Naethyn]

I use the velious war bp heal on raids often.

[Toxigen]

I could see scenarios where the cleric BP isn't completely useless.

But yeah, paladood / bard / rogue are the big 3.