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Meauxjo
03-10-2024, 03:02 AM
I want to play Gnome Cleric, but I see High Elf has better starting stats. Question is how important are starting stats? Am I gimping myself as Gnome? Thanks

enjchanter
03-10-2024, 04:44 AM
They don't matter hardly at all

Gear more than makes up for any races starting stats.

Wisdom is easy to cap

Meauxjo
03-10-2024, 05:12 AM
Thanks much for the answer.

sajbert
03-10-2024, 05:26 AM
Maxing wisdom is possible even if you go max cha and rest in sta on gnome. It may not be easy however but for most part it doesn’t matter. Gnomes have wall vision which is cool.

Only downside is no useful diety items, best likely being human and dark elf. Not sure how useful tunare root neck is but they get nice bracers though.

I’d personally go gnome.

Snaggles
03-10-2024, 07:37 AM
X-ray gnome vision with walls is maybe the best thing ever. You can get into The Hole without a key or shrink. If you end up raiding being preshrunk is really nice.

Nycon43
03-10-2024, 11:34 AM
Gnome is fine, wisdom is easy to cap with gear.

Tnair
03-10-2024, 01:15 PM
tinkering is op

and youll *feel* like the fastest moving cleric as a gnome ;)

PatChapp
03-10-2024, 05:48 PM
Gnome cleric end game bis,never need to be shrunk to duck ae.
Race means not very much in this game

Meauxjo
03-11-2024, 12:40 AM
Thanks all for the answers. Gnome it is.

Toxigen
03-11-2024, 08:48 AM
gnome master race, esp for cleric

Jimjam
03-11-2024, 09:50 AM
Gnomes are easiest to roleplay, so as this game is a rpg they are the minmax choice.

Solist
03-11-2024, 10:05 AM
Gnome best. Wall vision. Max cha start stats. Incredibly mobile race/class combo.
Human innoruuk close 2nd. Snare neck is fairly nice but don’t put yourself in those situations.

If you’re a spaz cleric just casting heals then race is irrelevent.

greatdane
03-13-2024, 07:37 AM
It's so easy to cap wisdom (and easier still to reach the softcap of 200) that it really doesn't matter much. You will not be a noticeably worse cleric if you pick gnome.

If you're starting from nothing and have to make your finances off of carrying loot to a vendor, it definitely does suck to be a weak race. It's probably not likely to matter very much at this point in the server's lifespan (whether green or blue), but if we pretend that it's a fresh server, I do think that weak races have a measurable disadvantage for the first long while because most of your money comes from carrying weapons back to vendors. But by the time you're nearing level 50, that largely stops being a concern.

Cleric is one of the least stat-intensive classes. There will never come a day where you sit there going "aw man, we would have succeeded if I had picked a better race." For a brief window of time, there may be a situation on a fresh server where picking dwarf would have let you save up enough for a set of banded armor a day or two sooner, and that will surely help. In the grand scheme of things, though? Nah.

I quite like dark elf and halfling for the ability to hide between pulls so that respawns don't aggro you. It's only like a 30% chance to succeed with the racial 50 in the skill, but if you can target something that cons anything other than indifferent, you can tell if you're successfully hidden (because then it will be indifferent if it can't see you).

WarpathEQ
03-13-2024, 09:32 AM
Gnome seeing through walls is OP especially for cleric, a lot less boring when you can see through the walls you're going to be stuck behind for the rest of your life once you start raiding.

Go Gnome for sure!

Plus cleric's have the easiest path to the custom velious plate gnome goggles!

Toxigen
03-13-2024, 11:00 AM
gnome goggles bis fashion

RobotGraveyard
03-14-2024, 12:38 PM
Erudite worshipping CT.

But yeah, Toxigen gets it. That goggle look is so rad looking!

Bardp1999
03-22-2024, 08:13 PM
If you dont play a Dwarf Cleric then f#$% you

jolanar
03-24-2024, 07:46 AM
Go gnome cleric, get tinkering spell haste, pretend to be a gnome paladin.