Nice! How's VP?

[Crazyboyo]

Hi,


I've almost just returned back to EQ since Kunark got released here on P99.
I simply got bored of the classic world on P99, but returned about a month ago.
My main reason for returning to P99 was due to kunark release, and mainly to discover the world of Kunark I didn't manage to see on live such as VP!

I just browsed TR's homepage; http://www.rampageguild.com/
and saw this post: http://rampageguild.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=6088b103f41f0607b66a0e38818579 e8&topic=1516.msg11406#msg11406

So I can see they have already entered VP......


Unfortunately I cannot find much information about it here on boards :(

How is it? could you give please give us some more information regarding VP and how it is on this server ? and maybe some more screenshots?


How is it compared to velious ToV/NToV?



Amazing someone is already raiding there!



Nice job!

[Ektar]

that's merely trakanon. he does drop teeth, but VP is not out yet.

[Ektar]

oh uh I looked lower.

if I had to guess, that was merely for testing purposes.

[Seaweedpimp]

VP is not open to the public atm. They are testing the mobs.

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

Do they get to keep the loot?

[Ektar]

I'm gonna go with no

[Uthgaard]

It's a retarded troll attempt. No one is beta testing anything. I'd recommend the author of their website reconsider the post, before I reconsider his account status.

[Rogean]

lol you guys are so gullible its hilarious

TR totally playing you

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

I was so excited ;(

[Starklen]

Fighting nexona in the middle of the silverwing's room would be a pretty neat trick.

[Shiftin]

No one is beta testing anything..

Understatement of the year award goes to....

[Dr4z3r]

Do they get to keep the loot?

Of course they do.

[Loke]

Edit: Just... wow...

[Uthgaard]

You're damn right I am. You might think it's a harmless joke, but consider the effects.

[Extunarian]

Understatement of the year award goes to....

'No one is beta testing anything' is the understatement of the year? Really?

I know this has been done to death, but why do you think the developers are beholden to you in any way? Who are you to complain about their schedule for working on and releasing content? I know your guild has expended much time and energy getting your key pieces and you're eager to get in, but if I were on the staff this would really piss me off.

[Ele]

I like where this thread is going.

[Amelinda]

lol you guys are so gullible its hilarious

TR totally playing you

[Slathar]

'No one is beta testing anything' is the understatement of the year? Really?

I know this has been done to death, but why do you think the developers are beholden to you in any way? Who are you to complain about their schedule for working on and releasing content? I know your guild has expended much time and energy getting your key pieces and you're eager to get in, but if I were on the staff this would really piss me off.

Because playing a 12 year-old game and living out his 'best guild fantasy' is very important and how dare the developers block his path to dragon loot. Duh.

[Shiftin]

'No one is beta testing anything' is the understatement of the year? Really?

I know this has been done to death, but why do you think the developers are beholden to you in any way? Who are you to complain about their schedule for working on and releasing content? I know your guild has expended much time and energy getting your key pieces and you're eager to get in, but if I were on the staff this would really piss me off.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sarcasm

On a serious note, the update was in questionable taste but perun is a questionable dude. I'd rather VP come out correctly in however long it takes than have to deal with another few months of "your kill didn't count because XXXX was broken". No dev is beholden to me, my guild, or any player on this server. I'm not sure why they won't let the playerbase test VP, or melee damage issues, or any of the complicated longstanding issues in the bug section, but that's their perogative and it'll be done when it's done.

[Ektar]

but perun is a questionable dude.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13782

yup.

[Nedala]

It's a retarded troll attempt. No one is beta testing anything. I'd recommend the author of their website reconsider the post, before I reconsider his account status.

are you kidding?? are you going to punish people now for trolling on their own guild homepage?

[Raavak]

are you kidding?? are you going to punish people now for trolling on their own guild homepage?
Think.... harder......

[Uthgaard]

No. For starting another favoritism conspiracy that we have to deal with. Actions have consequences. Right now we're dealing with the consequences of your actions, while you all have a good laugh. We have enough to put up with already. If you fix the problem, you won't have anything to worry about.

[Uaellaen]

maybe just MAYBE its not our thing to fix? no matter what we do there will be favorism cries ... i have a solution for you, ban every account on the server

[Raavak]

Or let Uthgaard do it for you~

Seriously guys and don't take offense. Its not about you, you are hurting the staff.

Just make it obvious its a joke in the end or something.

[Uthgaard]

You're one to talk about favoritism. If you spent half as much effort guiding as you do parading around in IRC reminding everyone that you were Cyrius, scoping out raid targets, and threatening to ban players from your play account, you might still be one.

When it comes to a decision as simple as taking down what amounts to an accusation of favoritism in your own favor for a chuckle, or leaving it up out of obstinance and spite and causing harm to the server's image, the decision shouldn't be a difficult one.

[Uaellaen]

go fuck your self

[Uaellaen]

and stop spreading your false information, if you had a clue i might still be working with you, but you are obnoxious and probably bi-polar

[Lazortag]

I'm begging you guys not to lock this thread, this is great so far.

[Buhbuh]

go fuck your self

Not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds...

[Uaellaen]

he doesnt feed me, in fact he does nothing for me but irritate me

[muffins]

ur mad

[Shannacore]

a+

[Buhbuh]

he doesnt feed me, in fact he does nothing for me but irritate me

I take it you are still able to play? I'd call that a win.

[Uthgaard]

and stop spreading your false information

I'll even let you go first.

[Trax]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13782

yup.

Holy shit, That's awesome. :D

[Nedala]

ur mad

no u

since you got declined to TR you are hatin on us like a pro, is pretty sweet tho keep it going.


Also im going to laugh so hard to the retard who calls GM favouritism for TR, seriously, if anything it's the opposite.

[Littlegyno]

Redpals reporting for duty.

[Stibe]

*goes to get his popcorn* Lookin good, TR.

[Kassel]

OMG TR in VP !! Stop the press - FAVORTISM ABOUND =D

http://www.rampageguild.com/

[Maze513]

http://www.wired2fish.com/images/Fortrex.jpg



I feel like I'm not doing this right...??

[Extunarian]

Regardless of muffin's past - or lack thereof - with TR, I think we can all agree that in this case he is right and uaellaen is indeed mad.

[Kruel]

no but srsly, how is VP?

[Slathar]

TR diabetic as fuck all raging out because their insulin shots ain't healing their bruised, ghost-like cankles.

Str8 diabetic rage.

[Harrison]

You seem to know a lot about the specifics of diabetic complications you fat fuck.

[Littlegyno]

He might be a young nurse or a young doctor Harrison you little nig.

[Diggle]

I really need exp from dying to nexona for 3 hours. i'm level 59 now. that acid aoe really blows.

[muffins]

diggle mad

[Uaellaen]

Regardless of muffin's past - or lack thereof - with TR, I think we can all agree that in this case he is right and uaellaen is indeed mad.

im not mad, i just dont have to take shit from anyone ... not even from people who think they are above everyone :eek:

[Kassel]

Muffins steals from poor people and gives to the rich!

Reverse Robin Hood all up in here.

[Kruel]

wait im lost! You can make fun of transgendered people on one guild webpage, and then on another guilds webpage they have pictures of VP and them playing in VP and this will get you banned? I really do not understand Uthgaards post, or is he just one of those guys that get some power and runs with it?

[Slathar]

You seem to know a lot about the specifics of diabetic complications you fat fuck.

Hey how's the army?

[Littlegyno]

Hey how's the army?

That's rude bro. He got kicked out for being fat ok.

[Skope]

When it comes to a decision as simple as taking down what amounts to an accusation of favoritism in your own favor for a chuckle, or leaving it up out of obstinance and spite and causing harm to the server's image, the decision shouldn't be a difficult one.

http://craigswinejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/blank_facepalm_224.gif

I have so much to say right now... some of it in your defense, but the fact that it would be in defense is pretty fucking ironic...

[Morlaeth]

wait im lost! You can make fun of transgendered people on one guild webpage, and then on another guilds webpage they have pictures of VP and them playing in VP and this will get you banned? I really do not understand Uthgaards post, or is he just one of those guys that get some power and runs with it?

[booter]

This thread delivers.

Normally the QQ tears sustain Rogean/the devs, but this time the dev QQ tears are sustaining us!

[Skope]

You guys have noooo fucking idea how much WIN is in this thread right now. Absolutely none. hahahahaha

[Pico]

i stopped playing because of uthgaard

[Skope]

I just spat my green tea all over my monitor reading the thread. I kid not. Just got done cleaning it.

Please, TR, keep going with the bitching and moaning. The Skope loves it.

[Anger]

Edit: Just... wow...

Loke can edit posts in RnF? wtfffff

on a side note...WTB The Hole / VP

[Ektar]

this thread has only recently been granted access to the grand land of rants and flams.

[booter]

Loke can edit posts in RnF? wtfffff

on a side note...WTB The Hole / VP

Huh you're right, I didn't really pay attention to that. Either Loke can edit or a dev decided they didn't like what he wrote~

[Kassel]

Huh you're right, I didn't really pay attention to that. Either Loke can edit or a dev decided they didn't like what he wrote~

For curiosity sake, what guild is loke in ?? :)

[Ektar]

this thread has only recently been granted access to the grand land of rants and flams.

[Skope]

I picture both Rogean and Uthgaard with the biggest fucking facepalms right now.

Can you let them know why what they're posting is so fucking stupid?

Please?

[booter]

He's in TR with the rest of us, of course. I just saw that I also can edit my posts in RnF. Must be a TR perk for having a dev guild leader.

[Morlaeth]

Loke is Uthgaard?

[xshayla701]

wow..

[Kassel]

Loke is Bort, mystery closed. next case please

[vinx]

wait im lost! You can make fun of transgendered people on one guild webpage, and then on another guilds webpage they have pictures of VP and them playing in VP and this will get you banned? I really do not understand Uthgaards post, or is he just one of those guys that get some power and runs with it?

point is, if your guildpage had photos of transgendered people pasted all over most visitors would just laugh at you. and nothing else would come of it cept solidifying your reputation.
This post, even in jest. might have sounded cool at first :)
but when the ramifications start to flow over into the server forums and public then it involves the server image. something the dev's clearly wish to remain as positive as possible.

[getsome]

Thank you for bumping rampageguild.com up in our google rankings. my work is done here.

our site and ventrilo is now been paid for the next 24 months.

[booter]

point is, if your guildpage had photos of transgendered people pasted all over most visitors would just laugh at you. and nothing else would come of it cept solidifying your reputation.
This post, even in jest. might have sounded cool at first :)
but when the ramifications start to flow over into the server forums and public then it involves the server image. something the dev's clearly wish to remain as positive as possible.

Then they should really strive to be fair, transparent, etc.

The answer is definitely NOT to police guild websites/content outside of p99.com because some people can't take a joke.

I mean first Rogean wants our phone numbers, and now Uth wants to control our guild front page?






(I'm kidding about the phone number thing being an issue)

[vinx]

The answer is definitely NOT to police guild websites/content outside of p99.com because some people can't take a joke.

I doubt they are policing it. know about it? visited it? ofc but policing it no
Uth isnt the OP if you havent noticed. and here it is for everyone on the server to see

[Skope]

Then they should really strive to be fair, transparent, etc.

oh my god it gets better, haha.

The fact is they can't. This server suffers from the same symptoms that every other emulated server suffers from in that the staff quickly realizes it's impossible to maintain a healthy server without help, but the help is often drawn straight from the playerbase, hence the accusations of favoritism. Divinity went through much the same shit except it was actually "fair, transparent, etc" and it quickly got shoved down their throats. To require that a GM/Dev/Guide not play the game is crazy (although preferred), but when they're also players then you have to face the consequences of a pissed-off playerbase, whether legitimate or not. Honestly I'm quite surprised how well they've handled it (granted I don't really know everything, and with that said there have been some very very clear and obvious mistakes).

If you want people to continue playing here then that question will never be answered in a truthful and transparent manner. The mere fact of knowing there's a dev/guide/GM in a guild is enough to force people to leave, whether they were fair and balanced or not.

Also, keep this thread going please. I'm enjoying this thoroughly.

[Harrison]

If people are leaving because of stupid shit like that, Skope, fuck 'em.

We don't need retards slurping down tinfoil hat conspiracies en masse like slathar at an all you can eat buffet of my dick.

[Lazortag]

... fair and balanced ...

Did you really use that phrase?

[Pico]

lmao harrison literally can't go one post without mentioning slathar

[Ihealyou]

I don't get how a joke about gm favoritism leads to people being legitimately concerned about gm favoritism.

[Skope]

If people are leaving because of stupid shit like that, Skope, fuck 'em.

We don't need retards slurping down tinfoil hat conspiracies en masse like slathar at an all you can eat buffet of my dick.

It's... weird. Like i said, there have been big mistakes before that can i guess in some way be attributed to that sort of speculation? At least I can name a couple of instances where that was probably the case or just really piss-poor judgment. Oddly enough this isn't one of them.

[Slathar]

lmao harrison literally can't go one post without mentioning slathar

It's funny because I'm better than him. I guess I'm his role model.

[Shiftin]

Skope you are the most intentionally vague person i've ever encountered.

[Messianic]

I am posting in this epic thread

[Amelinda]

Loke can edit posts in RnF? wtfffff

on a side note...WTB The Hole / VP

he can't edit them in RnF but he CAN edit them in server chat where this thread started.....

[Uthgaard]

I don't get how a joke about gm favoritism leads to people being legitimately concerned about gm favoritism.

The original post here wasn't the joke. It was a response to their website, where they posted it as a legitimate thing that happened. It also prompted tells and petitions in game, with people wanting to know why TR was allowed into a closed beta. For TR to play on that really shows where their priorities lie. Especially with people like Khysanth (booter) trying their damnedest to spin things around for their own benefit, even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.

I'm interested to see how Xzerion responds to having his his name and "developer status" dragged through the conversation. He always said the server came first and the game came second. I suppose we'll see how much of that was true, while you all shit all over the server and make obvious attempts to manipulate the staff to get your way.

[purist]

is there ever more than 30 seconds in between slathar posting anything and harrison's emotional, butthurt response?

[Skope]

^^ refer to one of my previous posts. Like i said, it's something that plagues every emulated server in every game; EQ included.

It's quite natural to assume the worst, especially in this case. People spend A LOT of time on here (and thanks to your dumbass windows, way too much time) and they have this looming dark cloud of "maybe it's unfair" hovering above them, peering it's ugly head every time a decision doesn't go their way. It's not transparent and it has never been (well, maybe when the server just started? but i wasn't around back then but I've heard the stories), and the server is actually better for it. This isn't the first time xzerion's name has been dragged through the mud.

Worms should stay in cans. But if they're going to stay in cans then you should expect this sort of behavior and speculation because the alternative is far worse.

[Ektar]

I'm thinkin they merely went on the defensive because uth came out of the box wielding the banhammer in a menacing manner. I feel like just asking them nicely in a pm or a tell or something to remove it because it was causing unnecessary problems would have worked, too.

[Brad_mo123]

The original post here wasn't the joke. It was a response to their website, where they posted it as a legitimate thing that happened. It also prompted tells and petitions in game, with people wanting to know why TR was allowed into a closed beta. For TR to play on that really shows where their priorities lie. Especially with people like Khysanth (booter) trying their damnedest to spin things around for their own benefit, even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.

I'm interested to see how Xzerion responds to having his his name and "developer status" dragged through the conversation. He always said the server came first and the game came second. I suppose we'll see how much of that was true, while you all shit all over the server and make obvious attempts to manipulate the staff to get your way.

Ok now wow, stop right there. I like you Uthgaard but the targeting of people such as Cyrius (uaellaen) Xzerion and god knows who else you posted about is just about too far. It was a simple joke posted on our own website and only an idiot wouldnt realise at the 2nd look that it is a fake. You assuming it will make drama is calling half or more of the server stupid so just relax man and stop targeting people please. Your friend: Giganto

[bluejam]

Being batphoned at 4am on a weekday for a fake Trak was pretty awesome too.

[deakolt]

Probably, honestly, all the people involved need to step back from the game.

We really need to look at our lives and ask ourselves whether EQ is really improving or impoverishing them.

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem...

[Skope]

Probably, honestly, all the people involved need to step back from the game.

We really need to look at our lives and ask ourselves whether EQ is really improving or impoverishing them.

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem...

but then how will people brag on their guild homepages about how awesome their dragon loot is? you're crazy...

wait are you trying to imply that shit isn't important?

[Pheer]

but then how will people brag on their guild homepages about how awesome their dragon loot is? you're crazy...

wait are you trying to imply that shit isn't important?

You say that as if divinity doesnt have a homepage with raid loot updates on it.

[Skope]

You say that as if divinity doesnt have a homepage with raid loot updates on it.

i'm not a fan of that either, but it's certainly not the way cyrano used to do them or even close. Hell, remember, i was listening in on your IB circlejerks on vent for like 2 months.

I haven't checked your page since last summer/fall, but I guess that's referring to last summer and fall. If it's changed then it's probably for the better.

[Ektar]

you're skirting the effects of a skilled writer. When you read how SO AMAZING cyrano made the kills sound, that was just because he can write. And no, he did not expend tons of psychic energy trying to make shit sound amazing, either. It's just something some people can do easily.

It obviously worked.

[Harrison]

Skope, you're a bad example of your guild right now.

[Shiftin]

Being batphoned at 4am on a weekday for a fake Trak was pretty awesome too.

[Skope]

Skope, you're a bad example of your guild right now.

i can disagree with them. it's allowed in div.

[Slathar]

What kinda nerd wakes up at 4 am for Everquest? Hahah

[Harrison]

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6076/slatharsomad.jpg

[Glitch]

I love this thread so much

[Kassel]

Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.

[Cyrano]

Or maybe the GM's should stop answering every stupid complaint. Do people put in bitchy petitions when a guild calls themselves "The Premiere Raid Guild on P99"? Probably not because they know it doesn't matter if they are or aren't. It's not your job to police outside the server Uthgaard. People know you have a penchant to pull the trigger on banning first and ask questions later, I used to hang out in the public mumble channel and I see the way many people on this server think, interact, and try to manipulate gms. They're not actually complaining because they care, they're complaining because they know it pisses you off. You are highly predictable in how you react to situations and your completely unveiled threats are something people feel they can easily induce.

It is my suggestion that you, not everyone else, think about changing some things up.

With that said, I understand that you spend a lot of time here doing a largely thankless job and I do appreciate it - I would have stopped a long time ago if I was you - but that also doesn't mean people should simply shut up or cower anytime you make a threat to ban us. This is a game, it's meant as an escape from our regular every day lives and the last thing people want to worry about is if they'll lose the time they've put into developing a character and reputation simply because a person with power is annoyed by a joke they made on a completely unrelated webpage, or in game for that matter. If you're going to rage on Perun for that update I suggest you also begin policing the FoH forums and banning people who talk mountains of shit about you and the rest of the staff, post pictures showing they use TPPs, and do things like find Rogean's facebook page and post personal information from it.

RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.

Again, I have nothing personal against you. You've always acted normal in my personal interactions with you, however few they may be, but you're acting like this update is affecting the integrity of this server which it is not. People just realize you think their complaining is indicative of the pseudo-gm favortism worries and use it to get you angry. Stop letting the trolls get to you.

[Loke]

Loke is Bort, mystery closed. next case please

Right? Finally got my guide app approved! I mean, I've been in TR for months now... about time!

I don't get how a joke about gm favoritism leads to people being legitimately concerned about gm favoritism.

qft


he can't edit them in RnF but he CAN edit them in server chat where this thread started.....

OR CAN HE?!

I'm thinkin they merely went on the defensive because uth came out of the box wielding the banhammer in a menacing manner. I feel like just asking them nicely in a pm or a tell or something to remove it because it was causing unnecessary problems would have worked, too.

qft

Seriously though, I was kind of annoyed about being asked to edit my post at first (not by anyone on the server staff - was a guild member) - never did I think that censoring my own post would result in MORE conspiracy theories. Amazing.

[Brad_mo123]

Or maybe the GM's should stop answering every stupid complaint. Do people put in bitchy petitions when a guild calls themselves "The Premiere Raid Guild on P99"? Probably not because they know it doesn't matter if they are or aren't. It's not your job to police outside the server Uthgaard. People know you have a penchant to pull the trigger on banning first and ask questions later, I used to hang out in the public mumble channel and I see the way many people on this server think, interact, and try to manipulate gms. They're not actually complaining because they care, they're complaining because they know it pisses you off. You are highly predictable in how you react to situations and your completely unveiled threats are something people feel they can easily induce.

It is my suggestion that you, not everyone else, think about changing some things up.

With that said, I understand that you spend a lot of time here doing a largely thankless job and I do appreciate it - I would have stopped a long time ago if I was you - but that also doesn't mean people should simply shut up or cower anytime you make a threat to ban us. This is a game, it's meant as an escape from our regular every day lives and the last thing people want to worry about is if they'll lose the time they've put into developing a character and reputation simply because a person with power is annoyed by a joke they made on a completely unrelated webpage, or in game for that matter. If you're going to rage on Perun for that update I suggest you also begin policing the FoH forums and banning people who talk mountains of shit about you and the rest of the staff, post pictures showing they use TPPs, and do things like find Rogean's facebook page and post personal information from it.

RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.

Again, I have nothing personal against you. You've always acted normal in my personal interactions with you, however few they may be, but you're acting like this update is affecting the integrity of this server which it is not. People just realize you think their complaining is indicative of the pseudo-gm favortism worries and use it to get you angry. Stop letting the trolls get to you.

This is true. There is a post in the RnF forums about GM Descisions. This was a troll but even so those people petitioning and sending tells to GM's complaining about a thought to be GM descision should be the ones punished.

[Skope]

Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.

if you think it's garbage i'm spewing i'd love to hear it. I've had a few PM conversations with members of TR that ultimately ended with them accusing me of the same crap but never noting where or why or how i was wrong, just "quit flaming." I'm gonna call people out on bullshit, regardless of what tag is beneath their name.

I'm actually extremely self-less in-game (gave away all my god/dragon loot to guildies), helpful and I'm extremely easy to get along with in tells or in-game. The fact that you don't like what I have to say and think that it somehow tarnishes my name or my guild's name is your issue. I've long quit giving a shit about p99 (as has most of divinity) and only play a couple hours a week or so as I've already explained to Shiftin. The forums are quite fun, though.

[Alkorin]

This thread is a sad commentary on many people, but mostly on the people that started this farce in the first place.

Now, back to the popcorn.

[Lazortag]

Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.

as a member of divinity I can say confidently that Skope's views rarely represent the views of his guild. In his defense though, I think if a person associates the views of one member with that of the whole guild, I'm not sure I care about their opinion anyway.

[Loke]

if you think it's garbage i'm spewing i'd love to hear it.

I know this isn't what this thread is about - but since you asked...

Your solution for raid bosses was garbage. Removing variance was just an absolutely horrible solution. Like, if we were having a contest for the worst suggestion possible, that would hands down win it.

Other than that, I've always actually read Skope's posts (where as I skip over a lot of posters the second I see their name) because while I don't always agree with him, he always seems to make a sincere attempt to address the topic in a thoughtful and genuine manner.

[Skope]

even Loke defends me. Loke for god's sake!

I still stand by that variance idea. This 4-day window bullshit spawns SEQ'ers and forces people to burn out right-quick. Classic variance I'd settle with. Poopsock can be combated in other ways.

The fact that I'm still wearing a div tag and will be for the remainder of this server or I leave should say something regarding my personality... y'know?

[booter]

The original post here wasn't the joke. It was a response to their website, where they posted it as a legitimate thing that happened. It also prompted tells and petitions in game, with people wanting to know why TR was allowed into a closed beta. For TR to play on that really shows where their priorities lie.

You are seriously some special kind of delusional if you think it was anything more than a VERY obvious joke.

Especially with people like Khysanth (booter) trying their damnedest to spin things around for their own benefit, even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.

What exactly am I trying to spin here? I'm not even sure this makes sense. I'm just calling out the bullshit of you trying to police the content of our guild homepage simply because some people QQ'd do you in game/on forums. Act like an adult.


RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.

QFT

[Muleworth]

even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.

rolf

[Loke]

Anyone who accuses Uthgaard of favoring TR after this thread is clearly just insane...

OR MAYBE THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING! Fake RnF spat between GM and members of TR to kill favoritism rumors? You be the judge!

[Alarti0001]

go fuck your self

u mad bro?

[Ektar]

tbh I had no idea what that dragon was. I thought it was ToV. I've never been to VP and to NToV once. maybe it was some other place I'd never been to.

what am I trying to say? nothing. just like should be taken from it.

[strupp]

u mad bro?

u late bro?

[Skope]

Anyone who accuses Uthgaard of favoring TR after this thread is clearly just insane...

OR MAYBE THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING! Fake RnF spat between GM and members of TR to kill favoritism rumors? You be the judge!

skope defends uthgaard. Loke defends skope.

<fire and brimstone>

[Skope]

FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!

apparently i can't type <fire and brimstone>

[Pheer]

skope defends uthgaard. Loke defends skope.

<fire and brimstone>

http://www.onlygoodmovies.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/rod-serling.jpg

[Littlegyno]

Putting $10 on odds that Uthgaard kills himself within 3 months.

[Glitch]

The action here died down. I'm going to assume Maestro popped.

[Ektar]

*phinny

[Dravingar]

People are god damn gullible if they believed TR was testing out VP for the GM's, especially if they are involved in the high end.

[YendorLootmonkey]

LOL TR... come on here. The issue is clearly that you are making things tougher on the devs/guides to promote server health/growth, yet your spin/misdirection is merely "Stop policing our guild web page!!"?

As it was pointed out above, Uthgaard didn't go there randomly to check things out. The link was posted for everyone to see, and because you guys can't control your irritating need to perpetuate the appearance of favoritism or "having an in", now the staff has to deal with the inevitable questions and accusations from others on the server.

In fact, you're only making it tougher on yourselves, as it is going to be more difficult for the guides/GMs to decide on anything in your favor without furthering the perception of favoritism on the server. As the old saying goes... perception is 90% of reality. Or something like that. Throw some high percentage in there.

Just off the top of my head, you've got Xzerion as a dev. He doesn't even try to hide it. Shit, at least make a forum dev name different than your play name and at least be subtle about it.

Then, playing off that fact, you proudly announced on your guild recruitment thread that players with GM/guide/dev accounts are preferred... although a joke, it's essentially flaunting the fact you've got Xzerion in your guild. Doesn't really do wonders for perceptions about the server, possible inside info, etc.

Some sketchiness around a mob being added in Permafrost by Xzerion right after a rival guild staged there to camp/kill Vox. The timing was just very suspect on that zone modification. At least wait a few weeks to add the mob there, you know?

Some more sketchiness around a rival guild beating you to Vox by poopsocking it, only to have your raid force mysteriously disappear from the zone before it spawned as a banishing version (granted, Rogean admitting to spawning it that way for the lulz, but on any other raid encounter, you would have been breathing right down the other guild's necks trying to outpull them or watch to see if they failed.)

Now, making it appear as if TR got invited to some sort of closed-beta test of VP to "work out all the bugs".

Really, guys? Can you be less blatant about the perception you're trying to create in direct contrast to the reality that the staff is trying to promote here? At least understand that having a dev in your guild has a certain responsibility attached to it, and understand the damage you do when you leverage perceptions that you have the inside track on the server. Whether anything improper happens behind the scenes or not is unfortunately irrelevant -- it's more about what the server population is led to believe, through their own observations or through your own flaunting.

[booter]

http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-tinfoil.gif

[YendorLootmonkey]

^^ Tin Foil hat probably has more AC/stats than my Tolan's Helm, sadly. :(

[Ektar]

lol there's a face for tin foil hat? best thing ever

[getsome]

Glitch,

Maestro was killed last night by Daliant, Tixel and myself. Sorry :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/lI7sC.jpg

[Juugox2]

anyone who believes this troll is making me laugh since considering epics arent even out how is VP out? :P i mean come on guys

[Seaweedpimp]

Glitch,

Maestro was killed last night by Daliant, Tixel and myself. Sorry :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/lI7sC.jpg

My son says he likes this picture

[Ring]

LOL TR...

I love Uthgaard. He's always been helpful and polite with me. With that said, you forgot to list that Uthgaard made a broadcast jokingly as Daltheb and contributed more than any of those things to the constant GM favoritism in TR hubbub. He was making a joke, sort of like what Perun is doing, but even a few days ago there were still people thinking it was true.

[JenJen]

good thread

[Pheer]

Personally I think uthgaard's name being in one of the screenshots made him angrier than the trolling itself. If the same screenshots had been put up without his name in them he'd probably be laughing about it and mocking anybody who fell for it.

[Uthgaard]

Nah, I never did look at them and still don't know what's in them.

Got retarded petitions and accusations
Fired warning shots
Cyrius pushed buttons
Humiliated Cyrius
Propaganda failboat sets sail
Called Xzerion onto carpet
Thread gets boring
Yendor makes sense

Rough timeline to now.

[Anger]

Who was it that was passing out the Tinfoil Hats again? I must have missed mine on this thread.

[Pheer]

Overall I consider this quite a successful troll thread. Good day everyone, lets wrap up here.

[Skope]

Nah, I never did look at them and still don't know what's in them.

Got retarded petitions and accusations
Fired warning shots
Cyrius pushed buttons
Humiliated Cyrius
Propaganda failboat sets sail
Called Xzerion onto carpet
Thread gets boring
Yendor makes sense

Rough timeline to now.

what the hell? i said exactly what yendor did except you want to keep ignoring me.

it's cool, bro.

[Pheer]

what the hell? i said exactly what yendor did except you want to keep ignoring me.

it's cool, bro.

TR sent a formal request that he not acknowledge you in any form.

[Ektar]

IB used to call me a nazi when I made restrictions to protect our image :(

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE GLITCH

[Werlop]

LOL TR... come on here. The issue is clearly that you are making things tougher on the devs/guides to promote server health/growth, yet your spin/misdirection is merely "Stop policing our guild web page!!"?

As it was pointed out above, Uthgaard didn't go there randomly to check things out. The link was posted for everyone to see, and because you guys can't control your irritating need to perpetuate the appearance of favoritism or "having an in", now the staff has to deal with the inevitable questions and accusations from others on the server.

In fact, you're only making it tougher on yourselves, as it is going to be more difficult for the guides/GMs to decide on anything in your favor without furthering the perception of favoritism on the server. As the old saying goes... perception is 90% of reality. Or something like that. Throw some high percentage in there.

Just off the top of my head, you've got Xzerion as a dev. He doesn't even try to hide it. Shit, at least make a forum dev name different than your play name and at least be subtle about it.

Then, playing off that fact, you proudly announced on your guild recruitment thread that players with GM/guide/dev accounts are preferred... although a joke, it's essentially flaunting the fact you've got Xzerion in your guild. Doesn't really do wonders for perceptions about the server, possible inside info, etc.

Some sketchiness around a mob being added in Permafrost by Xzerion right after a rival guild staged there to camp/kill Vox. The timing was just very suspect on that zone modification. At least wait a few weeks to add the mob there, you know?

Some more sketchiness around a rival guild beating you to Vox by poopsocking it, only to have your raid force mysteriously disappear from the zone before it spawned as a banishing version (granted, Rogean admitting to spawning it that way for the lulz, but on any other raid encounter, you would have been breathing right down the other guild's necks trying to outpull them or watch to see if they failed.)

Now, making it appear as if TR got invited to some sort of closed-beta test of VP to "work out all the bugs".

Really, guys? Can you be less blatant about the perception you're trying to create in direct contrast to the reality that the staff is trying to promote here? At least understand that having a dev in your guild has a certain responsibility attached to it, and understand the damage you do when you leverage perceptions that you have the inside track on the server. Whether anything improper happens behind the scenes or not is unfortunately irrelevant -- it's more about what the server population is led to believe, through their own observations or through your own flaunting.

This. I have never actually spoken to Xzerion, so I have no idea if he is a trustworthy person. But the thought of someone, who has the ability to mess with game mechanics, being the leader of a raid force that other guilds are supposed to compete against... it does make you nervous, even though I am confident that Rogean and friends would have brought the banhammer on his in-game character if they really thought there was something to worry about.
Since he doesn't hide his additional role the way that guides do (or GM's if any are still playing on the server after all the QQ'ing), he acts as a lightning rod for anyone looking for an excuse for why TR 'won' a petition, got a mob when the other guild had 2 more rangers, etc.

Also, see this....
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278

Obviously, having a GM say "you don't know what REALLY happened- stop questioning us" is only going to make people want to know what REALLY happened. And since Uthgaard only leaks staff secrets to people you don't like, there is an info gap left to be filled by level 1 forum trolls. TR's leadership has hardly done anything to help the appearance that they have 'special' benefits.'

[Ektar]

xzerion slept with my wife. maybe sleeps.

[Pheer]

wife? i thought you said we were moving to new york to be together ektar

[Uthgaard]

what the hell? i said exactly what yendor did except you want to keep ignoring me.

it's cool, bro.

You were too vague to make sense of whose side you were on, you waffling turncoat.

[Ektar]

ok look idk where you come from but when I say "be together" I, in no way, imply monogamy.

[Pheer]

ok look idk where you come from but when I say "be together" I, in no way, imply monogamy.

its because im a sarnak isnt it


After your thread i knew you had a problem with sarnaks, but I thought with our history together you could overlook it. Clearly I was mistaken.

[Harrison]

Us Fire Giants stick together, bro.

[Skope]

You were too vague to make sense of whose side you were on, you waffling turncoat.

nono, i defended you. you just hate me.

no turncoat, i still think you're an asshole at times and i don't have to hide it and nor am i switching sides, but this was quite clearly a case of themz got you all wrong. in fact their faces should be painted red and you should take a picture of yourself facepalming.

[Anger]

LOL TR... come on here. The issue is clearly that you are making things tougher on the devs/guides to promote server health/growth, yet your spin/misdirection is merely "Stop policing our guild web page!!"?

As it was pointed out above, Uthgaard didn't go there randomly to check things out. The link was posted for everyone to see, and because you guys can't control your irritating need to perpetuate the appearance of favoritism or "having an in", now the staff has to deal with the inevitable questions and accusations from others on the server.

In fact, you're only making it tougher on yourselves, as it is going to be more difficult for the guides/GMs to decide on anything in your favor without furthering the perception of favoritism on the server. As the old saying goes... perception is 90% of reality. Or something like that. Throw some high percentage in there.

Just off the top of my head, you've got Xzerion as a dev. He doesn't even try to hide it. Shit, at least make a forum dev name different than your play name and at least be subtle about it.

Then, playing off that fact, you proudly announced on your guild recruitment thread that players with GM/guide/dev accounts are preferred... although a joke, it's essentially flaunting the fact you've got Xzerion in your guild. Doesn't really do wonders for perceptions about the server, possible inside info, etc.

Some sketchiness around a mob being added in Permafrost by Xzerion right after a rival guild staged there to camp/kill Vox. The timing was just very suspect on that zone modification. At least wait a few weeks to add the mob there, you know?

Some more sketchiness around a rival guild beating you to Vox by poopsocking it, only to have your raid force mysteriously disappear from the zone before it spawned as a banishing version (granted, Rogean admitting to spawning it that way for the lulz, but on any other raid encounter, you would have been breathing right down the other guild's necks trying to outpull them or watch to see if they failed.)

Now, making it appear as if TR got invited to some sort of closed-beta test of VP to "work out all the bugs".

Really, guys? Can you be less blatant about the perception you're trying to create in direct contrast to the reality that the staff is trying to promote here? At least understand that having a dev in your guild has a certain responsibility attached to it, and understand the damage you do when you leverage perceptions that you have the inside track on the server. Whether anything improper happens behind the scenes or not is unfortunately irrelevant -- it's more about what the server population is led to believe, through their own observations or through your own flaunting.

How did I miss this post? Yendor hits it right on the head.

imo, dev's shouldn't be allowed to be in mass raiding guilds. It breeds threads JUST like this one. Develop the game, or play the game. You can't have your cake and eat it too. At least the other devs have other toons. Toons that they don't share with anyone else. Most certainly toons that don't openly lead raiding guilds. It's like Xzerion gives 0 fucks as to how much drama he causes hundreds of tinfoil hat raiders/P99 people. Is that the kind of person we want developing this server, let alone leading a top raiding guild on it? GM's on live had toons in guilds, but they certainly didn't go around flaunting it on public forums or in game.

Oh btw Xzerion. If you're doing so much 'developing'...how do you have time to lead a raiding guild in the first place? Get to work on The Hole or VP man. For all the stress you've caused the raiding community, we deserve it.

[Harrison]

Devs that aren't "allowed" to play won't dev for long unless they harbor some deep love for mindless, thankless, unpaid work.

Everyone bitching is a slackjawed downie. Who gives a fuck if Xzerion is a dev? Retards do apparently....

[Pheer]

I love how every thread about TR turns into a discussion about xzerion when he never even participates in these threads. Flaunting it? When was the last time you saw Xzerion even post let alone flaunt anything? Even funnier that youre directly addressing him when he probably wont even see the post or reply to it.

[Anger]

Devs that aren't "allowed" to play won't dev for long unless they harbor some deep love for mindless, thankless, unpaid work.

Everyone bitching is a slackjawed downie. Who gives a fuck if Xzerion is a dev? Retards do apparently....

Let me rephrase. Devs shouldn't be allowed to lead major raiding guilds.

Harrison, don't get me wrong your RnF posts are funny and we both hate on Slathar, which I do enjoy very much, but this is realtalk. You can't honestly sit and deny that there have been changes in the past that have favored IB/TR. Yendor listed many of them off so I won't repeat him.

Put yourself on the other side of the fence. If The Mystical Dark Ascension Fusion Blew the Fuse Order or whatever they're calling themselves now had a dev in the guild, TR would be crying blood every time a decision was made that even slightly favored them.

[Ektar]

it's funny cuz we did that anyway!

[Anger]

I love how every thread about TR turns into a discussion about xzerion when he never even participates in these threads. Flaunting it? When was the last time you saw Xzerion even post let alone flaunt anything? Even funnier that youre directly addressing him when he probably wont even see the post or reply to it.

Having a name on a forum directly linked to a server with the title 'Developer' underneath it is flaunting just from one post. It's no secret. Hell, if he never posted here, most people probably wouldn't even know he was a dev.

I think you're splitting hairs to be honest. This was not the point of my post.

[Uthgaard]

nono, i defended you. you just hate me.

no turncoat, i still think you're an asshole at times and i don't have to hide it and nor am i switching sides, but this was quite clearly a case of themz got you all wrong. in fact their faces should be painted red and you should take a picture of yourself facepalming.

http://i53.tinypic.com/saz5n7.jpg

[Anger]

it's funny cuz we did that anyway!

Did what bro?

Just because we're forum pals doesn't mean I have to like your guild ;)

[Skope]

Devs/GMs/guides/moderators are going to play the game and they're likely going to be in raiding guilds. Like I said, it's natural in an emulated server and should be expected but it also breeds a sense of "OMFG FAVORITISM," which this server isn't immune from.

There were guides/GMs/mods in guilds before and there still are, the issue of favoritism is something that's extremely touchie when people devote so many hours to this crap and the gms/devs/guides try hard not to sway towards their own guild's side. Outting their names and being transparent about it doesn't help and it's quite clear why Uth would get so uppity about that little prank.

class dismissed.

[Glitch]

IB used to call me a nazi when I made restrictions to protect our image :(

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE GLITCH

You always knew I was an avid supporter of the smug, asshole top-guild image. :D

[Ektar]

lemme quote to clarify.

Put yourself on the other side of the fence. If The Mystical Dark Ascension Fusion Blew the Fuse Order or whatever they're calling themselves now had a dev in the guild, TR would be crying blood every time a decision was made that even slightly favored them.

Whenever DA did something douchey or cheated and they got away with it, I cried favoritism. but eventually I just realized they were good at douchebaggery/cheating and just couldn't get caught :p

[Anger]

lemme quote to clarify.



Whenever DA did something douchey or cheated and they got away with it, I cried favoritism. but eventually I just realized they were good at douchebaggery/cheating and just couldn't get caught :p

Hypothetical situation: Could it be that you were confident they'd get caught one day and you guys wouldn't, because you have a dev in the guild? Sort of a sense of security that, one day, they'd get their comeuppance?

And sure enough, they did! 3 full weeks total of raid suspensions. I don't remember IB/TR getting any raid suspensions for doing similar things that DA did.

Just food for thought really. That, and I'm feeling confrontational today.

[Loke]

Honestly, this whole GM favoritism stuff *for the most part* isn't even coming from the raiding guilds. Sure, Durison/Veric/Aadill have flipped some shit in the past over like that mob in perma pathing (which didn't REALLY favor anyone and was repaired the very next patch), however, for the most part it is people like Anger or Yendor just fueling the fire with these posts concerning a portion of the game they don't even really participate in (to my knowledge at least).

The issue here shouldn't be TR having some fun and trolling the competition - that is part of competition just like them calling us Transgendered Ragequiters in their last update... how many petitions did you get about that? My guess would be zero. The issue, as someone said earlier in this thread is these thin skinned cry babies that have to petition every time they felt they have been the butt of a joke or dealt a mild injustice.

If people weren't such vaginas about everything maybe Uth wouldn't be so high strung.

Just my 2cp.

[Ektar]

no.. not really no :P

just for example, durison never entered into diplomacy (at least the several times that I tried). Eventually, he assigned someone the role of diplomacy with me.

One time when we had a disagreement over cazic, the diplomat and I came to an agreement. my guild followed because I said to. Durison told his diplomacy officer to fuck himself (roughly translated) and they went ahead and did their bullshit anyway.

another time nizzarr trained the entire temple on us. nothing happened to them.


there're examples of douchebaggery. cheating? well. they had several bans for duping, macroorshoweqing, and probably other stuff I'm not aware of.

we did not do things similar to this.

[Ektar]

and again, I'm not saying favoritism; I graduated to saying they just didn't have any evidence against them

[Shannacore]

i was in DA, we clearly had tralina-GM favoritism

LF guild PST

[Ektar]

oh yeah lol you were a big lightning post for that. I completely forgot~

[Loke]

i was in DA, we clearly had tralina-GM favoritism

LF guild PST

One time Shanna logged on Rogean's character to GM rez me... true story.

/duck

[Anger]

i was in DA, we clearly had tralina-GM favoritism

LF guild PST

Aaaand its officially a Tralina thread.

Nothing more to see here folks.

[Shannacore]

One time Shanna logged on Rogean's character to GM rez me... true story.

/duck

And then I banned a bunch of IB and turned all of DA into unicorns.

Good times.

[Ektar]

nothing more to see? a tralina thread gets, by far, the most hits. obv something to see.

[Anger]

nothing more to see? a tralina thread gets, by far, the most hits. obv something to see.

Did I miss the tits again???

Damn.

[Ektar]

AMELINDA TURNED ME INTO A UNICORN TODAY then the zone crashed and I wasn't a pony anymore

[Amelinda]

LOL TR... come on here. The issue is clearly that you are making things tougher on the devs/guides to promote server health/growth, yet your spin/misdirection is merely "Stop policing our guild web page!!"?

In fact, you're only making it tougher on yourselves, as it is going to be more difficult for the guides/GMs to decide on anything in your favor without furthering the perception of favoritism on the server.


Then, playing off that fact, you proudly announced on your guild recruitment thread that players with GM/guide/dev accounts are preferred... although a joke, it's essentially flaunting the fact you've got Xzerion in your guild. Doesn't really do wonders for perceptions about the server, possible inside info, etc.


To be honest this part really annoys me. like...significantly. people already have a tear-stained cry towel of GM favoritism that has TR embroidered on it and you want to make it worse so that any time there is a camp or raid dispute and you win, we can hear the bitching and for the next several days we can get petitions and tells of 'how is this fair?'

you have to realise people are freaking gullible on this server.
Honestly, this whole GM favoritism stuff *for the most part* isn't even coming from the raiding guilds.
For the most part.

[Ektar]

ya they got moderated already :(

[Amelinda]

AMELINDA TURNED ME INTO A UNICORN TODAY then the zone crashed and I wasn't a pony anymore

zone didn't crash. you crashed.

[Uthgaard]

just like them calling us Transgendered Ragequiters in their last update...

I wondered what the transgender references were about at the start of the thread.

[Ektar]

I asked in ooc and people said everyone went LD. idk doesn't matter :P

[Loke]

Since this is turning into a Tralina thread anyway...

Way to be a douche and have a RL now. I mean, who am I suppose to link videos/pictures to when I'm high and not sure if they're funny or not when Charyz, Morlaeth, Abacab, uhhh etc, etc aren't online?

Yea, I feel betrayed. Friendship over!

[Charyz]

omg i got mentioned by GM-Loke.

fap

[Pheer]

To be honest this part really annoys me. like...significantly. people already have a tear-stained cry towel of GM favoritism that has TR embroidered on it and you want to make it worse so that any time there is a camp or raid dispute and you win, we can hear the bitching and for the next several days we can get petitions and tells of 'how is this fair?'

you have to realise people are freaking gullible on this server.

For the most part.

So we should take it in the ass and let people talk all the shit they want about us without any kind of return trolling because if we do WE'RE the ones making life hard on you? How about you just tell the people complaining to quit crying instead of making it our fault. Like you said people are gullible, they'll believe whatever they want or their raid guild friends tell them after raging over losing out on a mob. I don't see how its our responsibility to try to change people's minds for them so that youll get a lower amount of petitions after every raid mob spawn.

[Harrison]

no.. not really no :P

just for example, durison never entered into diplomacy (at least the several times that I tried). Eventually, he assigned someone the role of diplomacy with me.

One time when we had a disagreement over cazic, the diplomat and I came to an agreement. my guild followed because I said to. Durison told his diplomacy officer to fuck himself (roughly translated) and they went ahead and did their bullshit anyway.

another time nizzarr trained the entire temple on us. nothing happened to them.


there're examples of douchebaggery. cheating? well. they had several bans for duping, macroorshoweqing, and probably other stuff I'm not aware of.

we did not do things similar to this.

This small bit of what DA did on the regular is why I can't for the life of me understand why they aren't permabanned.

I've been saying it all day. Shitbags in this community have it easy and are lucky as fuck.

Durison should have ingame AIDS, as should most of his underlings. Reduce their stamina and primary statistics by 1 every day until it hits 1. Then leave it there.

[Koota]

So we should take it in the ass and let people talk all the shit they want about us without any kind of return trolling because if we do WE'RE the ones making life hard on you? How about you just tell the people complaining to quit crying instead of making it our fault. Like you said people are gullible, they'll believe whatever they want or their raid guild friends tell them after raging over losing out on a mob. I don't see how its our responsibility to try to change people's minds for them so that youll get a lower amount of petitions after every raid mob spawn.


Difficult concepts. Grow the fuck up for starters.

[Uthgaard]

So we should take it in the ass

You never complained about it before.

[Ektar]

So just to adapt a cartoon we've seen now and again to this thread... here's the OP.







http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/pic029.jpg

[Harrison]

rofl

[Amelinda]

I asked in ooc and people said everyone went LD. idk doesn't matter :P

then my connection is awesome sauce because i didn't go linkdead. some people had issues in sebilis also - not everyone though.

[Ektar]

I meaaan yeah either way doesn't really matter. I was just trying to derail the thread

[Pheer]

You never complained about it before.

White knight detected

[Glitch]

Inglourious Basterds never got punished for their exploits.
They exploited glitches all day. I was like, "Please. it's 4:00am. Let DA have stupid Innoruuk and let me go back to bed and stop exploiting me". :(

[Ektar]

we had to exploit that glitch. over and over! anyone would have if they had access to it. That's hardly even on point!

[Harrison]

Remember when DA was exploiting access to spawn times like I said earlier in the thread? I do.

Why isn't Durison along with most of his cronies permabanned again?

OMG LIEK GM FARVORSIM!

[Slathar]

Remember when DA was exploiting access to spawn times like I said earlier in the thread? I do.

Why isn't Durison along with most of his cronies permabanned again?

OMG LIEK GM FARVORSIM!

kinda like how you're banned from the military due to fatness/social anxiety and lack of a GED

[Stibe]

Remember when DA was exploiting access to spawn times like I said earlier in the thread? I do.

Why isn't Durison along with most of his cronies permabanned again?

OMG LIEK GM FARVORSIM!

Why are you still here if you're so mad bro? Stop playing eq, and go combat medic something.

[Harrison]

kinda like how you're banned from the military due to fatness/social anxiety and lack of a GED

Kicked out for lack of a GED? lol

You don't know how the process of enlistment works, clearly. Troll harder, failure.

[Amelinda]

So we should take it in the ass and let people talk all the shit they want about us without any kind of return trolling because if we do WE'RE the ones making life hard on you?

I never said this. I'm saying you can do what you want but it makes me pretty angry when I bust my ass for this server and the players and then you people put in your recruitment thread 'gm/dev/guide account preferred' and then new players see that or mid-level players and they think 'omg gm favoritism...where did i put that cry-towel????' From that point forward any time there is a TR member around there are comments made and whining.

You say to tell them quit crying.

They already think that you are our favorites. If every time someone cries about TR they are told to shut up/quit crying then that will reinforce their belief that TR gets special treatment.

Their crying is not entirely your fault but when you taunt them and rub it in their face that you have a dev in your guild.....that is kinda TR's fault.

And I'm not hating on TR here so take that cry-towel and put it away please. All I am saying is have a little sense and stop intentionally perpetuating people's perceptions of favoritism. Obviously do what you want. I'm just nicely asking. :)

and the difference between your post and their post is no one linked their post and kept commenting/bumping etc. to take everyone to the beach.....

[Pheer]

In IB we tried the "stay quiet and ignore them" approach and it was pretty much exactly the same as it is now. Can you blame people for not caring what people think about them?

[Trax]

The original post here wasn't the joke. It was a response to their website, where they posted it as a legitimate thing that happened. It also prompted tells and petitions in game, with people wanting to know why TR was allowed into a closed beta. For TR to play on that really shows where their priorities lie. Especially with people like Khysanth (booter) trying their damnedest to spin things around for their own benefit, even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.

I'm interested to see how Xzerion responds to having his his name and "developer status" dragged through the conversation. He always said the server came first and the game came second. I suppose we'll see how much of that was true, while you all shit all over the server and make obvious attempts to manipulate the staff to get your way.


People are way overboard with this. Lets pump the brakes and take a closer look.

First off, the whole news post about us being in VP was nothing more than a joke. TMO / TR tension was high last week and we thought it would be funny to dig the knife a little deeper (all in good fun). Did we expect you (Uthgaard) to get mad about it? No. Did we expect some of the people on the server to think we had some sort of insider info on VP? Yes (that's the joke). We're well aware people think TR is littered with GM's and dev's, hence why it was easy to convince people.


Now if you want to talk about why some people are getting defensive, look at your first reply:

It's a retarded troll attempt. No one is beta testing anything. I'd recommend the author of their website reconsider the post, before I reconsider his account status.

followed by

No. For starting another favoritism conspiracy that we have to deal with. Actions have consequences. Right now we're dealing with the consequences of your actions, while you all have a good laugh. We have enough to put up with already. If you fix the problem, you won't have anything to worry about.

Don't try to tell me that I jeopardized my account because of a joke that didn't bring any harm to the server. You're threatening my account status over something that was posted outside Project1999.org. I don't see how a joke of this nature could result in suspension/banning. There was nothing offensive written about you, the dev staff, or the server. It was just a few screenshots. We never started the favoritism conspiracy rumors nor do we care for them, but they're sure as shit funny. You did however broadcast something as Daltheb once. Again, feeding the rumor of "gm favoritism". I bet a few people online that night actually thought Uthgaard = Daltheb. Why was that acceptable but trolling people with a news update about being in VP isn't? What about spawning a fake Trakanon waking up 80 people from both TMO/DA and TR? That may have been funny, but at whose expense?

I know you have your job cut out for you being a dev on this server and I know it's not easy. I respect the work you've done and continue to do, but if public image is something you care about you're doing it all wrong.


When it comes to a decision as simple as taking down what amounts to an accusation of favoritism in your own favor for a chuckle, or leaving it up out of obstinance and spite and causing harm to the server's image, the decision shouldn't be a difficult one.

Threatening someones account publicly over a post made outside Project1999 or having personal quarrels with a former dev in Rants and Flames isn't exactly going to put you in high regard. Being a GM/Dev on this server makes you a big part of the “server's image”.


I don't know why people are trying to call out Xzerion. What does he have to do with this? He always puts the server first. He doesn't control what I post on the news page. Aside from that, it was a joke get over it. You want people to stop with the GM conspiracy bullshit make it clear that GM's do not favor any one person and/or guild on this server. I know all GM's are neutral and don't pick sides but maybe the rest of the server should wake up and see that there's no GM favoritism.


We wanted to have some laughs and and we got what we asked for. This thread could have been completely avoided if you just 1) deleted the post or 2) contacted me asking me to remove the news post. Honestly anyone with half a brain would know it's fake. I'm sorry were being harassed by idiots.


tl;dr
I'll go censor my own website's content now and leave you all with a wonderful quote by the late great George Carlin:
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[Evorix]

Remember when DA was exploiting access to spawn times like I said earlier in the thread? I do.

Why isn't Durison along with most of his cronies permabanned again?

OMG LIEK GM FARVORSIM!

I see you mention this many many times.. you do realize ALL the raiding guilds at the time had this information....


How is it being a combat medic????

[purist]

Troll harder, failure.

Actually, I'd say he's trolling you extremely successfully and with minimal effort.

[Harrison]

That doesn't answer the question, retard.

Why is Durison, whom is known to the entire server for having used this exploit knowingly, not banned?

I eagerly await your response to this, Evorix. This should be good.

[Ronas]

Inglourious Basterds never got punished for their exploits.
They exploited glitches all day. I was like, "Please. it's 4:00am. Let DA have stupid Innoruuk and let me go back to bed and stop exploiting me". :(

U mean when u glitched some shit in fear to crash the zone over and over and over again right? Was like please stop doing it and making DA clear the zone over and over again and let us sleep already.

[Harrison]

U mean when u glitched some shit in fear to crash the zone over and over and over again right? Was like please stop doing it and making DA clear the zone over and over again and let us sleep already.

Newsflash, that was DA doing it to get rid of competition.

Fishbait did it every single time another guild showed up in Fear so they could have the zone to themselves.

They'd "coincidentally" show up at north wall after the "lag" stopped the crashing.

[Koota]

That doesn't answer the question, retard.

Why is Durison, whom is known to the entire server for having used this exploit knowingly, not banned?

I eagerly await your response to this, Evorix. This should be good.




What proof that he knowingly used the exploit please. Otherwise, shut your painted hole, Sally.

[Evorix]

That doesn't answer the question, retard.

Why is Durison, whom is known to the entire server for having used this exploit knowingly, not banned?

I eagerly await your response to this, Evorix. This should be good.



Why didn't every guild leader banned? No reason to point out Durison. The people who spread the information got banned, not the guild leaders. All the guilds had the information on when the named spawn. They ALL took advantage of it and got he same chance to kill the mob as the next guild.

[Slathar]

Kicked out for lack of a GED? lol

You don't know how the process of enlistment works, clearly. Troll harder, failure.

you don't know the enlistment process either because you were never in the army.

the only difference is i don't give a fuck about it whereas you did to the point of lying about it to the internet. sounds like the actions of a well-adjusted person.

[Harrison]

It's directly in the server rules.

Having direct knowledge of an exploit, bug, etc. and using it is grounds for an immediate ban.

That still didn't answer my question. Why isn't Durison banned? lol you can do this, just try harder kids.

[Glitch]

U mean when u glitched some shit in fear to crash the zone over and over and over again right? Was like please stop doing it and making DA clear the zone over and over again and let us sleep already.

Yea! I got U good. Was like hey DA U guys love plane armour right? Was like here are free mobs for U. U know?

I consider myself to be a humanitarian like that.

[Stibe]

*allthatshitbyyou*

Don't try to tell me that I jeopardized my account because of a joke that didn't bring any harm to the server. You're threatening my account status over something that was posted outside Project1999.org.

*moreshitbyyou*


He can ban you for whatever reason he wants. It's their sandbox. Remember? You're not paying to play. They owe you nothing. :rolleyes:

[Yiblaan]

WTF is going on? This is a pointless post QQ everyone and be thankful for a Classic experience tyvm

[Loke]

Newsflash, that was DA doing it to get rid of competition.

Fishbait did it every single time another guild showed up in Fear so they could have the zone to themselves.

They'd "coincidentally" show up at north wall after the "lag" stopped the crashing.

I was a DA officer when this was going down, and I can confirm that even DA suspected a clique of our members of being the guilty party in crashing PoFear. Veric, Aadill, Appollo, hell, even Durison if he isn't feeling too spiteful today can confirm that we thought it was a group of former Transcendence members that joined DA for a very short time were the ones crashing fear. To the credit of DA's leadership at the time, they (we) did kick the suspected members from the guild and contacted the server staff voicing our suspicions of the former members.

[Pheer]

Why didn't every guild leader banned? No reason to point out Durison. The people who spread the information got banned, not the guild leaders. All the guilds had the information on when the named spawn. They ALL took advantage of it and got he same chance to kill the mob as the next guild.

Please provide proof that IB had the information and used it, cause last time I checked we didn't know what was going on (but had suspicions) when suddenly DA magically knew where to camp 12 hours before every single raid mob spawned with multiple mobs in their variance window.

"Yeah we did it, but we shouldn't be punished cause other people did it too!" isn't even a satisfactory excuse if it were true in the first place.

[Slathar]

People are way overboard with this. Lets pump the brakes and take a closer look.

First off, the whole news post about us being in VP was nothing more than a joke. TMO / TR tension was high last week and we thought it would be funny to dig the knife a little deeper (all in good fun). Did we expect you (Uthgaard) to get mad about it? No. Did we expect some of the people on the server to think we had some sort of insider info on VP? Yes (that's the joke). We're well aware people think TR is littered with GM's and dev's, hence why it was easy to convince people.


Now if you want to talk about why some people are getting defensive, look at your first reply:



followed by



Don't try to tell me that I jeopardized my account because of a joke that didn't bring any harm to the server. You're threatening my account status over something that was posted outside Project1999.org. I don't see how a joke of this nature could result in suspension/banning. There was nothing offensive written about you, the dev staff, or the server. It was just a few screenshots. We never started the favoritism conspiracy rumors nor do we care for them, but they're sure as shit funny. You did however broadcast something as Daltheb once. Again, feeding the rumor of "gm favoritism". I bet a few people online that night actually thought Uthgaard = Daltheb. Why was that acceptable but trolling people with a news update about being in VP isn't? What about spawning a fake Trakanon waking up 80 people from both TMO/DA and TR? That may have been funny, but at whose expense?

I know you have your job cut out for you being a dev on this server and I know it's not easy. I respect the work you've done and continue to do, but if public image is something you care about you're doing it all wrong.



Threatening someones account publicly over a post made outside Project1999 or having personal quarrels with a former dev in Rants and Flames isn't exactly going to put you in high regard. Being a GM/Dev on this server makes you a big part of the “server's image”.


I don't know why people are trying to call out Xzerion. What does he have to do with this? He always puts the server first. He doesn't control what I post on the news page. Aside from that, it was a joke get over it. You want people to stop with the GM conspiracy bullshit make it clear that GM's do not favor any one person and/or guild on this server. I know all GM's are neutral and don't pick sides but maybe the rest of the server should wake up and see that there's no GM favoritism.


We wanted to have some laughs and and we got what we asked for. This thread could have been completely avoided if you just 1) deleted the post or 2) contacted me asking me to remove the news post. Honestly anyone with half a brain would know it's fake. I'm sorry were being harassed by idiots.


tl;dr
I'll go censor my own website's content now and leave you all with a wonderful quote by the late great George Carlin:
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sounds like you're a pussy. will you jump off a bridge if uthgaard bans you for being such a pussy? i bet you will, pussy. pussy.

[Ronas]

Yea! I got U good. Was like hey DA U guys love plane armour right? Was like here are free mobs for U. U know?

I consider myself to be a humanitarian like that.

At the time they had that bullshit raid timer 30-45mins to engage bosses thing and 15 in zone raid rule. Now crashing the zone over and over and making guilds reclear before hitting CT/draco within that time frame just made things retarded. U know it wasnt about the Armour. Yes i see that you trolling me but i thought i clarify for the others anyways.

[Harrison]

Please provide proof that IB had the information and used it, cause last time I checked we didn't know what was going on (but had suspicions) when suddenly DA magically knew where to camp 12 hours before every single raid mob spawned with multiple mobs in their variance window.

"Yeah we did it, but we shouldn't be punished cause other people did it too!" isn't even a satisfactory excuse if it were true in the first place.

I remember a bunch of times in particular when they were literally zoning in down to the 5 minutes mark fully buffed and good to go. It wasn't even discrete.

[Charyz]

At the time they had that bullshit raid timer 30-45mins to engage bosses thing and 15 in zone raid rule. Now crashing the zone over and over and making guilds reclear before hitting CT/draco within that time frame just made things retarded. U know it wasnt about the Armour. Yes i see that you trolling me but i thought i clarify for the others anyways.

Bro, Sis? I'll go with bro, It was DA...

DA leadership knew about it, and like Loke posted, it was members DA took in from Transcendance (names will stay hidden bc they arent needed). They were removed from DA and reported to the server staff for it.

So not current DA members, or any significant members of DA, but the Trans people were tagged under DA at the time of the incidents...

It.....wasnt...IB....

[Ektar]

I see you mention this many many times.. you do realize ALL the raiding guilds at the time had this information....

lol no we didn't. we just had people tracking all. the. time.

and a relatively brilliant tactician (me) deploying the troops.

ya, provide proof we had that information. because we didn't :P



and to the dude being trolled by glitch? The "glitch" he's referring to is himself. His name is glitch. sigh :p sorry to ruin your fun glitchipoo but ya know. I'm a nazi.

[Anger]

That doesn't answer the question, retard.

Why is Durison, whom is known to the entire server for having used this exploit knowingly, not banned?

I eagerly await your response to this, Evorix. This should be good.

And why didn't the members of IB who were using the lev trick to pull Vox get banned? Same diff bro. Don't be a hypocrite.

DA got 3 raid suspensions. From what I understand, 2 out of 3 of those were based on players using 3rd party software that wasn't even benefiting the guild itself (with Koota's incident being the one that did). How many suspensions did IB get for their actions? You really wanna keep going with this brew?

[Harrison]

Yes, I do.

Why are these people running rampant? This isn't fucking VZ/TZ. Let's clean up?

[Charyz]

And why didn't the members of IB who were using the lev trick to pull Vox get banned? Same diff bro. Don't be a hypocrite.

DA got 3 raid suspensions. From what I understand, 2 out of 3 of those were based on players using 3rd party software that wasn't even benefiting the guild itself (with Koota's incident being the one that did). How many suspensions did IB get for their actions? You really wanna keep going with this brew?

The lev trick to get into backside of Vox lair through ledge, like the one everyone (DA+IB included) used?

[Glitch]

sorry to ruin your fun glitchipoo but ya know. I'm a nazi.

FIRST you tell me to stop Gfluxing onto roofs and now this!!!! MOM!!!!!

[getsome]

RallyD

[Harrison]

I expect this thread to be page 30 by the time I come back. I also expect a logical reason why Durison isn't banned.

Get cracking.

[Anger]

Yes, I do.

Why are these people running rampant? This isn't fucking VZ/TZ. Let's clean up?

Remember Gwence? One of the server's most notorious trainers in PoFear. She trained: DA, VD, BDA, and TMO at least to name a few. Multiple times. Timestamped FRAPS and screenshots were provided. No action was taken.

Nizzarr trains the temple on TR once and gets a 3 day suspension.

And then there's good ole Perun. His favorite hobby was waiting for a guild to start clearing to Naggy, then proceeding to run past them to grab Tranix or Rokyl and friends and running back to the LS zone in. Even better, one time he ran all the way back to the zone in and flopped right there, not 2 feet in front of it. Not in front of the raid, not behind the raid, not even in BnB but all the fucking way at the LS zone in.

Cool story? Yep. Mad bro? If that's what makes your dong heavy, sure.

[Ektar]

omg lol remember that time someone moved a ghast out of its normal path and it agroed you and trained us and I had to go all nazi again? good times :D no srsly though these are memories to hold dear because they are unique moments!

[Haul]

lol you guys are so gullible its hilarious

TR totally playing you

[Anger]

The lev trick to get into backside of Vox lair through ledge, like the one everyone (DA+IB included) used?

You mean the one that Veric used once and got a week suspension for? The same one IB used at least 5 times after that happened without repercussions?

Yeah, the same one.

[Pheer]

anger has a very fitting username

[Ektar]

HEY I GOT A THREAD TAG!

omg this is a big moment for me. I feel like.. ACELEBRITY

[Harrison]

HEY I GOT A THREAD TAG!

omg this is a big moment for me. I feel like.. ACELEBRITY

Welcome to the club man. We meet on Thursdays in Kaladim, because until Thurgadin there is no better place to hang out drunk.

[Anger]

Welcome to the club man. We meet on Thursdays in Kaladim, because until Thurgadin there is no better place to hang out drunk.

Are there scones? I hear the dwarves dig on scones.

[Ektar]

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/racistbabynewsweekcoverl.jpg

[Harrison]

Dude, of course...

Scoffing that shit down with vox kegs on tap.

[Anger]

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/racistbabynewsweekcoverl.jpg

The Geopolitics of Golf, rofl.

[Ektar]

did no one else pick up on how that baby's head is strangely wide?

[Uthgaard]

Remember Gwence? One of the server's most notorious trainers in PoFear. She trained: DA, VD, BDA, and TMO at least to name a few. Multiple times. Timestamped FRAPS and screenshots were provided. No action was taken.

You sure about that?

[Anger]

did no one else pick up on how that baby's head is strangely wide?

Obv~ photoshopped. Racist babies have bigger heads so you can see them coming.

[Charyz]

You mean the one that Veric used once and got a week suspension for? The same one IB used at least 5 times after that happened without repercussions?

Yeah, the same one.

Are you sure Veric's suspension wasnt for repeat offense? He was suspended several times for a wide variety of offenses IIRC.

You can lose a job for calling in late one time - if you no call no showed 10x beforehand :P

(Not shots @ Veric before someone tries to escalate dramaz, just asking)

[Ektar]

ya actually I've been back casually for a few weeks and knew gwence was suspended.

but can we get back to derailing the thread please because I think that baby had shit rolling

[Hailto]

http://www.newsweek.com/2009/09/04/see-baby-discriminate.html

"At the Children's Research Lab at the University of Texas, a database is kept on thousands of families in the Austin area who have volunteered to be available for scholarly research. In 2006 Birgitte Vittrup recruited from the database about a hundred families, all of whom were Caucasian with a child 5 to 7 years old."

Scholarly research. A hundred families, all of whom were Caucasian with a child 5 to 7 years old. Wonder if there was some sort of agenda there? Nah, can't be, its from Newsweek.

[Ektar]

Obv~ photoshopped. Racist babies have bigger heads so you can see them coming.

and the look on his face too seriously just makes me think he's racist. He looks VERY judgmental

[Ektar]

it's almost like he's smirking...

"I'm better than you; it's not even a question. I know it and I'm just a baby."

that's what he's thinkin.

[Anger]

You sure about that?

To my knowledge, she was not suspended. Admittedly, I have no proof either way, as things were such a shit-show back then. I tried my best to stay up on guild politics and drama but, as you well know, there was a lot of drama to keep track of back then. I never heard of any repercussions anyways, and nobody here has said anything to the contrary.

Did she get suspended?

[Anger]

it's almost like he's smirking...

"I'm better than you; it's not even a question. I know it and I'm just a baby."

that's what he's thinkin.

"I'm a white baby born into a middle class family and will undoubtedly grow up in a suburban neighborhood, comfortably.

Come at me, colored folk!"

[Pheer]

To my knowledge, she was not suspended. Admittedly, I have no proof either way, as things were such a shit-show back then. I tried my best to stay up on guild politics and drama but, as you well know, there was a lot of drama to keep track of back then. I never heard of any repercussions anyways, and nobody here has said anything to the contrary.

Did she get suspended?

anger admits he has no fucking clue what hes talking about, more on this story as it develops

[vinx]

omg lol remember that time someone moved a ghast out of its normal path and it agroed you and trained us and I had to go all nazi again? good times :D no srsly though these are memories to hold dear because they are unique moments!
wtf ektar?? this is an awesome thread!
your derailing attempts are boring, and nobody wants to read what seems to be your own personal chat box stfu! im enjoying this :D

[Anger]

anger admits he has no fucking clue what hes talking about, more on this story as it develops

I've seen nobody claiming i'm wrong. The evidence was all there, I just don't have access to it as I wasn't the one making the fraps videos or taking the screenshots.

Asking Uthgaard directly seems like the wisest choice, as he really is the only one that can prove/disprove me at this point.

[Loke]

Gwence was suspended for 30? days I think?

As for Veric - I was around for all of his suspensions, and in many cases, was the person talking with the GMs about it. He was suspended a total of 3 times if I remember correctly. The first was for looting a contested mob, however, he looted the mob prior to GMs showing up and claiming that the mob was "contested" so the suspension was lifted (and loot actually kept by DA if I remember right).

The second was for training during that contested CT where Nizzarr and Winterfresh got suspended. The suspension was lifted after a couple of days because he didn't actually do anything - he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time while Winterfresh was training. I think he ended up getting three days because he was considered the "raid leader" so he was guilty by association. If I remember right, every officer of DA was suspended after this for a short period of time except myself and I *think* Aadill (although it might have been Appollo). All but winterfresh and nizzarr got lifted within a day or so I think.

The final one I remember was when he accidentally trained in fear. During this one, I actually worked it out with Xzerion and explained it was an accident. Xzerion and Ektar both actually took the high road and gave us the benefit of the doubt and withdrew their petition so Veric was unsuspended. We did return the favor later that night by not petitioning two accidental trains caused by IB...

I forget what my point was. Maybe it was that there was a short time where the two top guilds actually did have a some what amiable relationship. Also, just wanted to correct some history since people were dropping Veric's name. Veric always was a real legit player - he just had the worst luck when it came to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can't think of a single time he maliciously broke any rule on this server.

[Pheer]

I've seen nobody claiming i'm wrong. The evidence was all there, I just don't have access to it as I wasn't the one making the fraps videos or taking the screenshots.

Asking Uthgaard directly seems like the wisest choice, as he really is the only one that can prove/disprove me at this point.

so you now have to get uthgaard to fact check for you something that you already stated as 100% fact

sounds to me like you dont actually know for a fact bro

[Rogean]

Did she get suspended?

It always amazes me that people ask for inside information thinking we just hand it out.

[Rogean]

There's a lot of bullshit going on in this thread. Most of these topics have been covered before.

Once again why do people think Xzerion has some sort of control/access over the server that other people don't? Some of you refer to a 'dev' account.. as if his play account has special privileges. News Flash: His account is the same exact as anyone else's, and he doesn't have access to anything else that wouldn't be.

As for what TR posted on their website, I could give a fuck. I do find the recent PCC edits hilarious though, but what they post on their website is their business. If people are willing to fall for some false information then they will be humiliated and laughed at later when they realize the truth. I have and will continue to ignore claims and cries of favoritism from ignorant asshats.

[Anger]

It always amazes me that people ask for inside information thinking we just hand it out.

Is it really that detrimental to set the record straight, given the opportunity?

[Xzerion]

So I started with this project after meeting Nilbog on a couple of other "classic" emu servers. They all just closed up shop with no warning to anyone. I was also frustrated with all the things that were just flat out wrong on every emu server and thought I could do a better job myself. Nilbog invited me to help him with this server at that point. The single biggest regret I have had the entire time I have been here was making my forum name the same as my play name. When we started this out we had a small and to be honest, a very polite community of people who were here helping and testing who all wanted the same thing. We did not predict more than 80-150 people tops to be playing on this server based on the population of other emu servers. By the time it was obvious this was going to be much bigger it was too late. My guild knew who I was, I liked the people I played with...there would be no hiding who I was. I helped develop this project because I wanted to experience EQ as it was before Sony ruined it, just like everyone else. I did this because I wanted to play it....I didn't do this to be a hero, or to try and get a job from it, I did it because I wanted to play.

As for why I lead a guild....well way back when, Crow quit, then shortly after Otto quit, I happened to be the one left holding the bag. Then when I was ready to quit, Ektar quit and I was still holding the bag. There was a very long period of time that I was not developing or helping at all whatsoever (Plane of Hate-Plane of Sky), yet the gm favoritism still went on. As the leader of IB/TR my guild has always been held to the server rules and expected to take the high road. Suggesting that I dont put the server first is a complete joke and even a bigger knock on the character of anyone who suggest that I dont. Anyone who claims this simply does not take the time to pay attention or attempt to have a halfway decent conversation with me.

IB/TR outs their own people when a rule is broken/exploited. They are reported to the Staff even when a suspicion comes up. The rules is something that is taken quite serious by me. Been a couple times I pushed for more severe punishments than what was handed out as well. When I actually had a GM account on the server I banned members of IB for rule issues. Why would I do this if I didn't care? TR/IB has never had a guild mule account full of duped dragon loot that was used to hand out to people. TR/IB's guild leader never trained another guild in fear with the cazic train. TR/IB's guild leader never used ShowEQ to go track and kill quillmane for himself like another Dev/guildleader did. TR/IB never had any sort of spawn timer/used any info of the sort to go prep for the second something spawned like another guild's leadership did. TR/IB's guild bank has never been RMT'd or skimmed from. TR/IB uses trackers to track each and every mob that we track, not showeq. TR/IB never crashed a zone to get the upperhand on a mob from another guild.

TR/IB is not innocent either. There have been some individuals who made poor choices and they were dealt with by the p99staff as well as internally, but there is no comparison in my opinion to the faults TR/IB has had versus other players/guilds. There is no favoritism, im not on the dev forums, im not in IRC, I have no GM account. When something goes wrong, I am 95% of the time NOT the one who petitions or deals with the staff...for the simple reason of that I DO NOT want the stigma of being favored either.

When I came back to help develop Kunark it was with the stipulation that I no longer lead raids-period. The reason being from Nilbog was that having database access "could" give my guild an advantage over another as far as mechanics went. Some of my guild doesn't even know thats the reason why I am usually completely silent on raids. We have had Devs in our guildchat, had Devs in our TS/Vent...on a raid I dont use guildchat, I dont use TS/vent because that was the committment I made to nilbog. Anyone who has played with me since Plane of Sky can vouch for that. I have not had database access since Kunark launched. If Nilbog would like me to help with Velious I will be helping with Velious. Having me as the guild leader gives us no advantage that any other guild could have. As for the Vox lair incident, I already admitted I fucked up on that one, I explained myself here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22200&highlight=xzerion+developer&page=34 . Again I am sorry that I was wrong on that, but hell I didnt fuck up melee tables, boss spawn timers, overhaste plane of sky, abuse tumpy tonics. I made one mistake off memory but in the process I did fix alot of other things that were wrong with the vox lair/giants.

I don't post here normally because of the forum title and I will simply just never convince some of you of anything different than what you want to believe. So Uthgaard, how do I feel about my name being dragged through the mud? I honestly stopped caring a long time ago because I frankly cannot do anything about it, people will believe what they want to believe. Nilbog, Rogean, and yourself have access to all the logs to see what I have done. You have database and server access to see exactly what I do and do not have access to. Whenever that is challenged by a player you all have the ability to squash that and set the record straight. Nilbog outlined procedure on how things like this were to be dealt with in the past and it would be nice if it were followed through with.

As for the post in the main topic of the thread...kids shove back and forth...maybe TR went too far with this one. Perun has take care of it. As for the guild perception of DEV/GM involvement/favoritism, when no matter what you do people still acuse you of it, sometimes its just easier to roll with it and troll yourselves. TR made a complete mockery of it with the guild recruitment post and this VP post...if people cant see that...well I dunno. Sorry I got to this late...I do work for a living as well.

In closing, like I said, if I could go back and change the name I would have. I can't do anything about it now. If people want to deny me the right to play on what I helped to create, I'm sorry but I hope you all enjoy the server as much as I do. Im just a normal guy, I wanted to experience classic eq like the rest of you and thats what I'm doing. Cheating/getting favors would be counterproductive to that goal and with my access/powers is impossible. So go ahead and flame on, or I challenge some of you to spark up a conversation with me, you may be surprised.

Xz

[Pheer]

Is it really that detrimental to set the record straight, given the opportunity?

They already made a thread long ago stating that they dont answer to the playerbase. Answering some random guy's questions about ban/suspension history would set a precedence and result in at least a mini shitstorm of "how come youll answer his questions but not mine" petitions/threads.