Level appropriate camping

[Switchup]

i really think we should have GM's or the owners of this version of the game actually make it so that you can be some level 58+ jackwagon camp for instance the giant islands of OOT so they can make money. who knows id personally think that if players could log on and gain xp from camps there would be more players on the server there would be more people wanting to play, but when you constantly have players who are running camps for nothing more then POSSIBLE financial gain it really sh!tZ on any reason to log on one of the BIG reasons that games became financially purchaseable with in game micro purchaces because they where sick of BS like that and wanted to actually get somewhere in the game then waiting on said person to stop fking up their time and space for there own personal gain but who knows i could be wrong but if i only have a little time here and there and when i log on some lv 58-60 is camping the only place that can take 30-1h30min to even get to for some gems then that kinda fucks up the entire reason im even willing to log on. again if im wrong im wrong, the only people i can think that will object are those who are doing the gem farming to screw it up for those who can get xp off the mobs

[Jimjam]

Isn’t the point of levelling up and gearing a character so you can do more content not less?

If I level a warrior to 60 so I can traipse around Solusek’s Dungeon roleplaying the owner of a dilapidated Bed and Breakfast that is my choice. Likewise a level 58 mage spending 2 years doing thirty five hour weeks on seafuries so they can leverage an epic mq is their choice.

[Toxigen]

sorry you dont got seafuries hope this helps

[Swish]

Seafury gem loot got nerfed years ago because people were bitching about rules on quadding and multiple druids/wizards/etc running around with 2-3 waiting for a 4th for their quad.

You know its bad if they change something because the elf court forum had too many posts. Maybe it needs nerfing again?

Maybe OP needs to go and kill some Highkeep guards instead. Top floor guards are good til the mid-40s for XP and you can vendor to the erudite that sells the enchanter pet spells no matter how bad your Highkeep vendor faction is.

[PatChapp]

For years on Green a 60 sk just didn't leave Seafury island.
The island has a 2 minute respawn, if you didn't know. Just relax a sec and some one eyed idiots will be there for you to kill.

[Toxigen]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277707

[cd288]

Still one of the better stories on P99. Although while messing with the plat farmers is great, stealing the goblin ears from lower level EXP groups is a dick move.

[Toxigen]

Still one of the better stories on P99. Although while messing with the plat farmers is great, stealing the goblin ears from lower level EXP groups is a dick move.

its skarlorn what did you expect

good elf tho, OG as fuck

[zelld52]

Isn’t the point of levelling up and gearing a character so you can do more content not less?

If I level a warrior to 60 so I can traipse around Solusek’s Dungeon roleplaying the owner of a dilapidated Bed and Breakfast that is my choice. Likewise a level 58 mage spending 2 years doing thirty five hour weeks on seafuries so they can leverage an epic mq is their choice.


Sol A is one of the worst/best examples of this exactly. I;ve seen many people on green, near level 60 roll through Sol A without regard for what anyone else is camping and clear house to collect bricks of ore.

scenario i see somewhat regularly: when the 55+ mage, rogue, monk, etc.. pops their head in to the bar room - the group killing goblins now knows why they cant find any spawns outside of this one room. when someone from the group sends tells to the player, and they dont respond - just continue walking around the entire entry part of Sol A clearing every goblin in sight-- players ask for CC, but the 55+ clearing the zone is antisocial and wont call a camp. would rather walk around the zone for hours on end killing everything that isnt in line of sight of any other players, regardless of where theyre camping. result: instead of competing for engage with a player twice their level - the group decides the much sowed down exp isnt worth it and return to MM or Highkeep.

i dont think its the GMs responsibility to remove these players from the zone. technically speaking, theyre not breaking any PnP policies... but watching a 55+ player spend hours and hours of no-afk style clearing mobs half their level is pretty cringe

[spoil]

I don't know what motivates a lot of these people to play the game. What do they even need the plat for? If you can spend untold hours doing absolutely mindless camps then I don't believe you're ever going to progress to doing anything challenging in the game. That's why these stories never seem to involve a solo enchanter, shitters play other classes.

[cd288]

i dont think its the GMs responsibility to remove these players from the zone. technically speaking, theyre not breaking any PnP policies... but watching a 55+ player spend hours and hours of no-afk style clearing mobs half their level is pretty cringe

Well it depends. They're not breaking any rules if a group of players just gives up and leaves and never tries to claim a camp. But if an EXP group comes in and says to the farmer "we are going to take X camp. If you'd rather have that one then a different one that you're clearing, we're happy to take one of the other ones" then the farmer has to respect that and allow them to have a camp. If the farmer does not, then they would be violating the PNP and can be petitioned.

As far as criticizing them for clearing mobs, why should that be cringe? Unless they're a high end player of a certain class (e.g., Enchanter, Shaman, etc.) then that's the best way for them to farm plat for themselves. It's only cringe if they don't let people have a camp.

[zelld52]

Yah it's cringe when the 55+ won't communicate with the level appropriate group.

Sometimes the high level player will just clear whatever, and make no attempt to "Play nice" with others. Won't respond to tells, won't claim a camp. Just walks around killing everything.

ESPECIALLY since Sol A is a huge zone with so many goblins. If I was going to clear Sol A for bricks of ore, for instance, and there were a group or two of level-appropriate toons in the bar, and nobody up north near the Inferno Goblin Captain spawn - I'd go to the north part of the zone to stay out of the way of the younglings.

That being said, I also have a 60 shaman and 60 enchanter and don't farm bricks of ore on them for plat.

[Evia]

I have never understood the mentality that just because someone's a certain level they're not allowed to kill mobs because someone else can get exp from it. It's hilarious because of the irony that they think it's rude these high lvls feel entitled to the mobs, yet their argument is that they themselves are actually entitled to the mobs. The lack of self awareness in these situations is astounding.

Is it annoying when a high lvl comes through and takes all the exp mobs from you? Of course. Is it everquest? Yes. Those mobs are just as much for them as they are for you. Just because you don't think so doesn't make it true. Usually kind communication can solve the issue and if it doesnt, switch zones.

They could have many reasons for hunting in that zone...maybe they are nostalgic for the zone, maybe they need the plat, are trying to complete a quest, maybe they just enjoy slaying those mobs. Just because you think a mob needs to give exp for someone to be allowed to kill it is just your own made up selfish rule.

Why not let people play the game how they want? Why do they need to EQ the same way you do? as long as they're not KSing you, they're not breaking any rules.

[spoil]

I have never understood the mentality that just because someone's a certain level they're not allowed to kill mobs because someone else can get exp from it. It's hilarious because of the irony that they think it's rude these high lvls feel entitled to the mobs, yet their argument is that they themselves are actually entitled to the mobs. The lack of self awareness in these situations is astounding.


Is that the argument being made? That you're not allowed to kill specific mobs? I think we're all well-aware of the rules here. Clearly nobody is entitled to any mobs, but a player gaining experience in addition to any other rewards is getting more benefit from the mobs. And I would say mutual respect for that is what's behind the unwritten code, not an astounding lack of self-awareness or whatever.

[cd288]

Is that the argument being made? That you're not allowed to kill specific mobs? I think we're all well-aware of the rules here. Clearly nobody is entitled to any mobs, but a player gaining experience in addition to any other rewards is getting more benefit from the mobs. And I would say mutual respect for that is what's behind the unwritten code, not an astounding lack of self-awareness or whatever.

TBH this whole conversation is kind of dumb because the vast majority of those people "gaining experience" from the mobs either are leveling alts and have farmed plat in the same manner on their other characters, or otherwise will farm plat in the same manner once they're high enough level. let's not pretend these people are all altruistic here.

[zelld52]

TBH this whole conversation is kind of dumb because the vast majority of those people "gaining experience" from the mobs either are leveling alts and have farmed plat in the same manner on their other characters, or otherwise will farm plat in the same manner once they're high enough level. let's not pretend these people are all altruistic here.

I agree, but as someone who loves Sol A: I’ve brought actual new players there on twink alts because I just love the layout of the dungeon as a classic EQ experience.


More times than I’d hope, I’ve run into players thst straight up won’t respond to tells or inquiries about where they’re planning on clearing. They’d rather compete FTE on mobs with players half their level. I don’t feel like dealing with it, and leave. I think it’s cringe. I think it’s cringe to defend high level players that straight up clear a zone without talking to anyone. As of to say “I own this zone now, get over it it’s how I like to play”

[zelld52]

To add on: it’s not about the exp. It’s level a level appropriate dungeon for 20-35/40. Which means it’s challenging, especially to newer players, ie: fun. Not as fun as mindlessly going from mob to mob killing them in 15s and looting for hours on end, though.

[Toxigen]

If you're set up at a camp they can't just roll through and take those merbs.

If they do, petition. They'll get a nice 1 week vacation after the guide shows up and sees him clearly violating pnp.

[Naethyn]

I play here because I don't want to play the piano.

[enjchanter]

I'll never give up the mind goblin camp, idc how many level 30s beg me

[Evia]

Is that the argument being made? That you're not allowed to kill specific mobs? I think we're all well-aware of the rules here. Clearly nobody is entitled to any mobs, but a player gaining experience in addition to any other rewards is getting more benefit from the mobs. And I would say mutual respect for that is what's behind the unwritten code, not an astounding lack of self-awareness or whatever.

If the argument isn't being made in this thread, it's heavily implied. My response is more or less towards this general mindset, as we get numerous threads a year bitching and complaining about higher lvl players killing lower lvl mobs and how "unfair" it is.