When Is The Merge And Reset?

[Drueric]

I read that they were gonna merge green and blue and do a reset, but that was supposed to happen in jan 2023. Hasnt happed yet and the game is getting quite stale. How bout an update dev? Is this ever gonna happen or what?

[enjchanter]

probably not

[Duvain]

We'll never know

[Gustoo]

Looking forward to the merge. Player guilds that progress through the game in a classic way or permadeath way are cool.

Add vendor casino to consume plat.

[Rimitto]

said this before and I'll say it again... the servers will reset when god gets his epic. (-:
(tldr; you're all screwed because of bots'n'farmers)

[cd288]

Staff, I will donate a large sum if you merge the servers lol

[Insomnia]

Probably wont see anything like this until late summer at the earliest with Darkpaw rolling out new TLPs

[rvanatta01]

Just doing my democratic duty and adding my voice to this. Love P99 and appreciate all the devs. It's also irresponsible to your product and disrespectful to your clients to completely disregard all of the requests for communication about this topic EVEN if that communication is "we can't communicate anything about this right now". Indie developers should know this better than anyone.

[Viscere]

Merge it clean

[Swish]

Merge green into red. Lets go.

[Trexller]

Staff should implement a new punishment for bad behavior on blue or green:

Transfer to Red with no warnings

[Trexller]

Just doing my democratic duty and adding my voice to this. Love P99 and appreciate all the devs. It's also irresponsible to your product and disrespectful to your clients to completely disregard all of the requests for communication about this topic EVEN if that communication is "we can't communicate anything about this right now". Indie developers should know this better than anyone.

Devs only need to engage their playerbase if they need to make money from the product, or if player input matters to development.

Neither of these things are true unless you found a verified and proven bug or game correction, then you'll get a, fixed, pending update" message and nothing else

[Solist]

Just delevel every toon to level 1 on all servers.

Then do it again randomly in like 1-3 months, and again. So casuals finally leave for quarm and takp and we can have competitive blue.

[sajbert]

every topic these days is when's refresh or a dsm-hijack

[Ransurian]

Devs only need to engage their playerbase if they need to make money from the product, or if player input matters to development.

Lol. I mean, most reasonable people probably understand that the devs aren't *obligated* to communicate and could literally do anything they wanted with the project. That doesn't change the fact that most people who've dedicated a lot of time and effort would very much appreciate some kind of heads-up after years of radio silence. I don't really think it's unreasonable to ask for (not demand) an update.

If they're burnt out and want to shut the servers down forever / leave them as-is until almost everyone stops playing, that's fine. If there's something else going on and a merge / refresh is still in the cards, that'd be nice to know, too. It's just a bummer when you peek in every ~6 months only to discover that there haven't been any updates whatsoever.

It's hard to watch something you've gotten so much enjoyment out of over the years just slowly wither.

[Trexller]

Yeah they should say something.

The entire playerbase agrees

Shits not withering. Software doesn't rot.

Also the carebear quarm server is over there ‐----------->

They will make you a special NPC in EC if you're whiny enough

Should fit right in

[spoil]

Quarm is a great option for the casual player, the working man's sever if you will. I don't have a lot of time to play, but I absolutely must have the best gear in the game in order to enjoy it casually. Because isn't that what Everquest is all about -- the pixels we made along the way? I think you p99 neckbeards have sadly forgotten that.

[Rimitto]

Lol. I mean, most reasonable people probably understand that the devs aren't *obligated* to communicate and could literally do anything they wanted with the project. That doesn't change the fact that most people who've dedicated a lot of time and effort would very much appreciate some kind of heads-up after years of radio silence. I don't really think it's unreasonable to ask for (not demand) an update.

If they're burnt out and want to shut the servers down forever / leave them as-is until almost everyone stops playing, that's fine. If there's something else going on and a merge / refresh is still in the cards, that'd be nice to know, too. It's just a bummer when you peek in every ~6 months only to discover that there haven't been any updates whatsoever.

It's hard to watch something you've gotten so much enjoyment out of over the years just slowly wither.
I've seen this same slow-roll schematic towards death on every dead MMO I've ever played. :rolleyes:

you guys ever hear of a game called ragnarok? how about trickster? no? how about swtor or monster hunter? There have been countless MMO's that have come and countless that have gone. Feebleness and inactivity is what leads to contempt and destruction.
Personally some of my favorites were things like grand chase and dragon nest, where the content was active and engaged while in it's prime.

Green was a noble concept initially, but it was a bridge to nowhere. Now that the bridge has come to it's final resting spot, the empty abyss is all that remains.

There's a saying, The Journey is the Prize.
Those that simply want to "be the best and get to the end before everyone else" now have nothing but the abyss to stare into.

There are 2 "next steps" that will come for destruction. The dumbing down of the spoken word and the foreign invasion with invasive tongues.
When an MMO dies, the first truly BIG sign is the takedown of the english language.
There are only small signs before that, in game inflation, lack of parties, and a top-heavy playerbase, for examples.

All MMO's fated for destruction follow the same path. Whether young or old.
Only Creation can stop Destruction.

[Swish]

There are 2 "next steps" that will come for destruction. The dumbing down of the spoken word and the foreign invasion with invasive tongues.
When an MMO dies, the first truly BIG sign is the takedown of the english language.

You mean this will happen on green?

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[Tenderizer]

How did I get here? green...green99? Wipe that dingleberry clean! now how do I find my way out?

[oldmannox]

wait whats going on? if blue is merging with green then force player to play on green not wipe both say ok done,, thats BS! i spent countless hours, days with out sleep to level the char i invested so much time effort into if i wanna deal with that bs ill play on retail now i hear some @$#% tard just hit delete button? expect rapid population decrease if thats the case.

[Trexller]

i spent countless hours, days with out sleep to level the char

lol why would you do that to yourself

[spoil]

wait whats going on? if blue is merging with green then force player to play on green not wipe both say ok done,, thats BS! i spent countless hours, days with out sleep to level the char i invested so much time effort into if i wanna deal with that bs ill play on retail now i hear some @$#% tard just hit delete button? expect rapid population decrease if thats the case.

Don't panic but there was official talk about a merger as recently as like 4 years ago.

If/when it ever happens, no characters would be wiped. Green characters will be added to the blue server and a new green will launch. But we're not holding our breath waiting.

[Elijah850]

There's a saying, The Journey is the Prize.
Those that simply want to "be the best and get to the end before everyone else" now have nothing but the abyss to stare into.

100% This. This server(Green) is a relic now. It was fun. It's been a relic for year(s) now. How anyone other then a super casual 1-2hr/day or weekend warrior plays Blue competitively now is just mental illness and Green is knocking on the same door.

Time to call it quits @Staff or at least comment on why there is no comment? Maybe? Id love a new server, but life goes on either way. I guess 90+% of most humans daily routine is habitual and hopefully that accounts for the majority of the population playing and doing the same motions week after week in perpetuity with no desire and sometimes disdain at having to deviate at all. LOL

P99 was fun and I hold a great memories from the timeline! Akin to my original introduction to Everquest during Phase 4 Beta in 1998 at 13 years old. At 39 years old today, I can tell ya, these servers all 3 are for the Weekend warrior/1-2hr here or there checking in on old memories of your journey.

No comment at all on the subject makes me think Staff enjoys watching mental illness and maybe even herding the cats also pleases them? How any GM could legitimately think Helming these decrepit servers is worth their volunteer time is beyond me. No Cap. lol

[Sonark]

Don't panic but there was official talk about a merger as recently as like 4 years ago.

If/when it ever happens, no characters would be wiped. Green characters will be added to the blue server and a new green will launch. But we're not holding our breath waiting.
So what if your account already has 8 characters on Blue?

Allowing new accounts for the same IP/whatever, or just making new accounts for these people to transfer their accounts to just opens the door for boxing.

[rvanatta01]

So what if your account already has 8 characters on Blue?

Allowing new accounts for the same IP/whatever, or just making new accounts for these people to transfer their accounts to just opens the door for boxing.

So let Blue become a boxing server and keep green no box. Blue needs something like that anyway to keep it alive. Solutions to these kinds of things aren't that difficult. Or, if they are, the devs can just say "that's too hard for us" or "we give up", or "we just don't give a shit". Something. ��

[Ransurian]

Tor at least comment on why there is no comment? Maybe?

That's what weirds me out. Project 1999 seemed to be a passion project that its leaders really cared about, so the silence we've been getting is strange and disappointing. I can understand taking a backseat for a few months due to burnout or personal / professional obligations and such, but Green is well over 4 and 1/2 years old at this point and people have been speculating about the future of the project for a very long time.

Part of me still hopes there's going to be a surprise announcement and a new server launch soon once the current round of TLPs start to wrap up, but meh

[Trexller]

So just roll a new char on blue and act like its a fresh start

You aren't gonna find your childhood happiness regardless of how many new servers p99 cranks out

[rvanatta01]

So just roll a new char on blue and act like its a fresh start

You aren't gonna find your childhood happiness regardless of how many new servers p99 cranks out

I find it funny that there's an ongoing theme of this sentiment and I have to say, I don't understand it. It's dismissive, a touch mean-spirited, and frankly it completely misses the mark. I don't think anyone on this thread has said that they're somehow unhappy, or that it is even about nostalgia. The fact is the gameplay changes dramatically on a new server and after the planes and raids have all been completed 100+ times, the market is saturated, and the lower level zones are empty, there is no just "rolling a new character." Grouping at low level is scarce and you are forced to stick to the same zones over and over, or you are just forced to solo. Not everyone wants to play a shaman or necro.

If YOU are unhappy and reliving your past, don't project that sh*t onto others

[Trexller]

I just get high, log on and screw around

Who needs more than that?

[Rimitto]

That's what weirds me out. Project 1999 seemed to be a passion project that its leaders really cared about, so the silence we've been getting is strange and disappointing.

hahahaha... waking up to reality is fun. :)
The GMs aren't what you wish them to be.
a serious GM would never spend all their time running around zones turning people into unicorns.
The illusion is broken and the overton window is laid bare. :rolleyes:

[Ransurian]

hahahaha... waking up to reality is fun. :)
The GMs aren't what you wish them to be.
a serious GM would never spend all their time running around zones turning people into unicorns.
The illusion is broken and the overton window is laid bare. :rolleyes:

GM's aren't the ones keeping the lights on, though. The project management staff (i.e. Rogean, Nilbog) are the ones actually running the servers. Going through their post history, it seems like Nilbog was active on bug fixes up until about seven months ago, with his last post being on 11/12/23. Rogean's activity has likewise dropped off, with a total of 4 posts over a one year period (three of which were simply XP bonus announcements, and one of which was a brief post in the Bugs section). I don't know what GM's are doing or not doing since I've frankly never interacted with them, but they're not relevant here.

It's kind of baffling.

[Trexller]

Rimitto is a bot

[Elijah850]

So just roll a new char on blue and act like its a fresh start

You aren't gonna find your childhood happiness regardless of how many new servers p99 cranks out

It's not about finding missing happiness. For me personally anyway. It is about starting in a fresh world and meeting the population of the server organically in the same state of nakedness as it was 25 years ago.

It is about the journey. People seem to forget the reason they probably picked up Everquest for the first time. Say what you want. The possibility of getting a few more years of memorable experiences in a living Norrath is very appealing to me. Doing a curated meta when the timeline is over just doesnt appeal to me though, quite the opposite.

I just wonder why all the silence about it? There is always a reason for being silent on a topic many are interested to know about, and seeing the most recent patches leading up to end of Green's timeline(a long time ago now), makes me believe a new server is in the pipe, but may never happen depending on interest of the creators. That is fair. Why that can't be honestly articulated is unclear.

Either way: Ill be here when a new one launches, unless a game releases that could carry the torch another 25 years first. Not holding my breath for either lol.

[Trexller]

Turns out all you gotta do to get staff to engage the community is rant and flame over mage staffs

[Elijah850]

Turns out all you gotta do to get staff to engage the community is rant and flame over mage staffs

ROFLMAO right

[Kroshk]

Turns out all you gotta do to get staff to engage the community is rant and flame over mage staffs

We engage with players on a daily basis. Are you in game, are you in the discords?

[Trexller]

We engage with players on a daily basis. Are you in game, are you in the discords?

What is this "game" of which you speak

[Ransurian]

We engage with players on a daily basis. Are you in game, are you in the discords?

Lol. In the context of this discussion, the focus is on the staff that actually have the power to decide the future of the project by implementing merges, fresh servers, etc. The last Velious patch for Green was a long time ago, and the lack of engagement / communication regarding a clear direction for the future of this project is confusing and a bit worrying.

[Rimitto]

I just wonder why all the silence about it? There is always a reason for being silent on a topic many are interested to know about, and seeing the most recent patches leading up to end of Green's timeline(a long time ago now), makes me believe a new server is in the pipe, but may never happen depending on interest of the creators. That is fair. Why that can't be honestly articulated is unclear.

just a thought, but green went live in 2019 in October.
This was pre-vaccine era, and mass is a heavily vaccinated state...
maybe their health has dropped quite a bit since green was introduced and they simply cannot keep up with their original intentions?
I know quite a few people have been in pretty degrading health around here in the past couple of years, always coughing.

incoming traxxeler saying that I'm a bot. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Jimjam]

We engage with players on a daily basis. Are you in game, are you in the discords?

You’re doing a great job, don’t let them burn your balls :)

They aren’t mad at you - they’re mad at the ones who can make changes but don’t. You’re just receiving their ire as you are representative of those that can make changes.

I’m not mad at anyone, but it is pretty vexing that some issues appear to be well documented easy fixes, but seem actively ignored. Oh well, no biggie to me - it is an ace simulation anyway!

Edit: also want to say no hate on Nilbog et al either- they do put in a lot of work when they can. I love it when Nilbog gets into one of his flurries of activities and storms through the bug report section making fixes!

[Elijah850]

You’re doing a great job, don’t let them burn your balls :)


100% agree here. I am very grateful for finding p99 right before the pandemic and can't imagine how much brain power and dedication went in to this Project via Rogean, Nilbog. All the Guides I have interacted with since Jan 2020 have been helpful and very clear with me about do's and don'ts when I first started and any time I've had an issue.

I appreciate being able to log in and bs with people who are still active even though I can't make myself do the repetition in the same closed loop for long before I /q.

I love a living(populated), level playing field(no twinks) in Norrath. Like Green when I started in Jan. 2020. I loved knowing without question from day one I had at least 2-4 years of what I am most drawn in by. The Journey! I just wish there was clarity on the subject of even 'if' a fresh timeline is still in the cards. I will be fine either way.

[Soothsayer]

I love a living(populated), level playing field(no twinks) in Norrath. Like Green when I started in Jan. 2020.

Yup. Nothing pulls me out of the game quite like a megatwinked Iksar monk with a tranquil staff and a fungi tunic basically soloing a camp and flexing his wealth while the rest of the group kinda just... looks on. Yuck.

And that's if you can even find a group in the first place with how deserted most leveling zones seem to be these days. :(

REALLY hoping for news on a server reset / recycle soon. Or at least some kind of announcement affirming that they haven't abandoned the project, lol. At this rate, EQOA (the Playstation 2 EverQuest) will probably have a private server up and running before a P99 Green refresh.

[cd288]

Yup. Nothing pulls me out of the game quite like a megatwinked Iksar monk with a tranquil staff and a fungi tunic basically soloing a camp and flexing his wealth while the rest of the group kinda just... looks on. Yuck.

And that's if you can even find a group in the first place with how deserted most leveling zones seem to be these days. :(

REALLY hoping for news on a server reset / recycle soon. Or at least some kind of announcement affirming that they haven't abandoned the project, lol. At this rate, EQOA (the Playstation 2 EverQuest) will probably have a private server up and running before a P99 Green refresh.

They haven't abandoned the project. People forget that long gaps between things isn't historically unusual here (I don't mean that as an insult to the project heads, just a fact). For example, the final patch on Blue took a very long time. The actual launch of Green happened a very long time after the first statement that the intent was to have Blue as a "beta" server and then create new progression servers such as Green.

I would imagine something similar will happen here. We're about 18 months past the earliest point they said they would merge. So I'm not surprised a merge hasn't happened nor that there hasn't been any communication on further plans. I wouldn't be surprised if we get to summer 2025 and suddenly there's a communication that we're going to merge and a new Green is going to be launched toward the end of the year.

[spoil]

Yup. Nothing pulls me out of the game quite like a megatwinked Iksar monk with a tranquil staff and a fungi tunic basically soloing a camp and flexing his wealth while the rest of the group kinda just... looks on. Yuck.


Now imagine the same monk, but a noble human. Totally different vibe.


I'm not surprised a merge hasn't happened nor that there hasn't been any communication on further plans.

Rogean and Nilbog talked with Sirken for over an hour about an upcoming new Red server, back in the year of our Lord 2014. It's up on youtube.

So where I'm at is maybe it will, maybe it won't.

[Rimitto]

Rogean and Nilbog talked with Sirken for over an hour about an upcoming new Red server, back in the year of our Lord 2014. It's up on youtube.

So where I'm at is maybe it will, maybe it won't.

You've talked more about a server merge in the past 10 days than the staff has in the past 10 years. :cool:

[Old_PVP]

Rogean and Nilbog talked with Sirken for over an hour about an upcoming new Red server, back in the year of our Lord 2014. It's up on youtube.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get to summer 2025 and suddenly there's a communication that we're going to merge and a new Green is going to be launched toward the end of the year.

New RED has seniority. All you Greenies need to get in line. Enjoy Green for another 10 years.

[cd288]

Now imagine the same monk, but a noble human. Totally different vibe.



Rogean and Nilbog talked with Sirken for over an hour about an upcoming new Red server, back in the year of our Lord 2014. It's up on youtube.

So where I'm at is maybe it will, maybe it won't.

Well if you're unpaid and doing this in your free time, I would imagine you'd allocate those limited resources to where they'd be the most impactful (i.e., the largest portion of the P99 population that it would impact)

[HalflingWarrior]

Well if you're unpaid and doing this in your free time, I would imagine you'd allocate those limited resources to where they'd be the most impactful (i.e., the largest portion of the P99 population that it would impact)

I played Tallon Zek back in the day. It was fun, back then, when nobody knew what they were doing. It's just a joke these days, with BIS NTOV-geared, de-leveled twinks camping cloth-wearing level 30s in Mistmoore.

And then complaining when nobody wants to play with them anymore.

[Elijah850]

Looking forward to the merge. Player guilds that progress through the game in a classic way or permadeath way are cool.

Add vendor casino to consume plat.

This sounds like an idea worth trying.

[Elijah850]

You've talked more about a server merge in the past 10 days than the staff has in the past 10 years. :cool:

lol very true