Returning player starting new

[briemy]

Played for a little while on BLUE and decided to come back. Starting fresh on Green. IS green steady? I know it was a more recent server . Possible gonna roll pally or ranger

[cd288]

Both servers are very top heavy and mudflated at this point. Green is a bit more populated at lower levels, but it's tough to find groups a decent amount of the time. Not trying to discourage you by any means, just flagging for your awareness.

[Rimitto]

green has hit the end-game point that blue has.
green is more active than blue.
pricing on green is far higher than pricing on blue.. take it as you will.
neckbeards are clamouring over a server reset because they didn't get manastones or holgresh beads so they want to try again.

[Trexller]

green has hit the end-game point that blue has.
green is more active than blue.
pricing on green is far higher than pricing on blue.. take it as you will.
neckbeards are clamouring over a server reset because they didn't get manastones or holgresh beads so they want to try again.

nope. you're just rehashing shit you already read

your language model is weak

[magnetaress]

Don't worry. Green will merge with blue soon.

[Rimitto]

Don't worry. Green will merge with blue soon.
prove it.
They said it ONCE when they started green that they might merge them when it completes and have never mentioned it ever again.

There's less news about the merger than there is Red 2.0 :rolleyes:

[cd288]

prove it.
They said it ONCE when they started green that they might merge them when it completes and have never mentioned it ever again.

There's less news about the merger than there is Red 2.0 :rolleyes:

Technically they first said they WOULD merge it. Then when the pop on Green was extremely high and people were whining about it they basically said "well maybe we wouldn't merge if the server continued to be sustainable and with a very high population"

And why wouldn't they say that at the time? That way they don't have to listen to people whine and yell about something that's years away.

[WarpathEQ]

Considering the recent GM poll about if characters should be allowed to be transferred between servers we can easily read between the lines that there are 0 plans to merge the servers at this time and that the numerous posts on the topic are useless speculation.

Both servers are stable, both have more population than needed at the top end hence the volume of raid concerns occuring in the UN discord, green with consitently the larger population as it was created more recently.

Until we get to a place where weekly quakes are not needed to quell player on player disputes, high demand mobs actually stay up more than a few minutes past their spawn, draft weeks are no longer needed to keep the masses happy, and guilds have to start merging due to attrition there is no reason to consider merging servers.

[cd288]

Can you link to that GM poll? I don't see one in the polls forum

Both servers are stable, both have more population than needed at the top end hence the volume of raid concerns occuring in the UN discord, green with consitently the larger population as it was created more recently.

I think you just highlighted the reason people want a merge though. The servers are top heavy and outside of raiding things can be like ghost towns a lot of the time. People want a more vibrant, fulsome community throughout the level ranges.

"People still raid" isn't really a good measuring stick for whether servers need to be merged. In fact, it's kind of the exact opposite.

[WarpathEQ]

Can you link to that GM poll? I don't see one in the polls forum


https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431039

My apologies upon further review it wasn't GM led, I conflated Viscere with Visceren so you can disregard those comments.

I think you just highlighted the reason people want a merge though. The servers are top heavy and outside of raiding things can be like ghost towns a lot of the time. People want a more vibrant, fulsome community throughout the level ranges.

"People still raid" isn't really a good measuring stick for whether servers need to be merged. In fact, it's kind of the exact opposite.

A merge would not be a true solution to that problem it would just be a multiplication of the existing problem, a merged sever would just be twice as top heavy. What you're really speaking to is the desire for a brand new fresh server.

While we can certainly debate the most appropriate "measuring stick" the reality is all humans are inherently self serving so to have an expectation that the staff would make decisions that inherently would make the time they invest in the game (without any compensation) less enjoyable (more raid concerns, more petitions, more player vs. player conflict) is a really poor expectation to have. I believe the points I laid out more accurately reflect the actual measuring stick that the staff is using to make decisions about the current and future state of P99 as these are the main prisms that they experience the game through.

[cd288]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431039

My apologies upon further review it wasn't GM led, I conflated Viscere with Visceren so you can disregard those comments.



A merge would not be a true solution to that problem it would just be a multiplication of the existing problem, a merged sever would just be twice as top heavy. What you're really speaking to is the desire for a brand new fresh server.

While we can certainly debate the most appropriate "measuring stick" the reality is all humans are inherently self serving so to have an expectation that the staff would make decisions that inherently would make the time they invest in the game (without any compensation) less enjoyable (more raid concerns, more petitions, more player vs. player conflict) is a really poor expectation to have. I believe the points I laid out more accurately reflect the actual measuring stick that the staff is using to make decisions about the current and future state of P99 as these are the main prisms that they experience the game through.

I'm not speaking for a desire for a brand new server at all. Pre-Green, we had one PvE server for years which while it was very top heavy there were constantly people leveling alts, very frequently you could find lower level groups if you went to the more popular leveling zones, etc. You don't need a fresh server for that.

Multiple high end raiding guilds existed on Blue back then as well and you're forgetting the fact that a large number of the Green raiders are also high end raiders on Blue. You're not creating some massive influx of raiding players by merging. They're already raiding on both as it is, so likely guilds would just merge.

[WarpathEQ]

I'm not speaking for a desire for a brand new server at all. Pre-Green, we had one PvE server for years which while it was very top heavy there were constantly people leveling alts, very frequently you could find lower level groups if you went to the more popular leveling zones, etc. You don't need a fresh server for that.

Multiple high end raiding guilds existed on Blue back then as well and you're forgetting the fact that a large number of the Green raiders are also high end raiders on Blue. You're not creating some massive influx of raiding players by merging. They're already raiding on both as it is, so likely guilds would just merge.

So by merging 2 servers that both admittedly have little to no leveling population where do you expect this population is going to magically appear from? To your point its a finite player base, to your point many people have high end characters on both servers so merging would just give people more access to more high end characters (including multiplying the bot army's that the top guilds have built). There is no incentive for people to start new characters, not twink them out, and engage in low end gameplay.

The only way I see to create such an incentive is a world where the top end characters don't exist, I.E. a new server.

[loramin]

There will be a "new Green" server.

How do I know? Because it's what the staff wants: Rogean has explained (in past interviews) that the the entire goal for Project 1999 is to be a museum for experiencing classic EverQuest. You can't really say you've experienced classic EQ if you haven't had a "OMG I looted a rusty sock!" moment, so periodic new servers have always been a part of the museum's plan.

But, the folks running P99 do so as a hobby, and launching a brand new server is a ton of work. Thy learned exactly how much work when they launched Green, and clearly that they're in no rush to tackle it all again soon.

So while "new Green" is coming ... it's probably not coming anytime real soon.

(And as a side note, we've had this exact same debate almost a decade ago. I argued the exact same thing back then ... only back then I was arguing about "old green" coming. The more things change ... :D)

[Trexller]

Its not that much work, now they know exactly what to do for everything

All the kinks have been ironed out, a new server could not generate new problems, outside of changes in technology.

The radio silence on this matter easily approaches inexcusable

[Pulgasari]

There will be a "new Green" server.

How do I know? Because it's what the staff wants: Rogean has explained (in past interviews) that the the entire goal for Project 1999 is to be a museum for experiencing classic EverQuest. You can't really say you've experienced classic EQ if you haven't had a "OMG I looted a rusty sock!" moment, so periodic new servers have always been a part of the museum's plan.

But, the folks running P99 do so as a hobby, and launching a brand new server is a ton of work. Thy learned exactly how much work when they launched Green, and clearly that they're in no rush to tackle it all again soon.

So while "new Green" is coming ... it's probably not coming anytime real soon.

(And as a side note, we've had this exact same debate almost a decade ago. I argued the exact same thing back then ... only back then I was arguing about "old green" coming. The more things change ... :D)

https://i.imgur.com/LLiYdom.png

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/LLiYdom.png

So, this is the AI that we are supposed to worship and fear?

That's disappointing

[Pulgasari]

prove it.
They said it ONCE when they started green that they might merge them when it completes and have never mentioned it ever again.

There's less news about the merger than there is Red 2.0 :rolleyes:

The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023). (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2960116&postcount=1)

Will is not might.

The hour is not yet late.

[Trexller]

The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023). (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2960116&postcount=1)

Will is not might.

The hour is not yet late.

Rimitto is a bot

someone is using these forums to train a language model

you can tell because it never makes an original statement, just a post made of combinations of other statements.

[cd288]

So by merging 2 servers that both admittedly have little to no leveling population where do you expect this population is going to magically appear from? To your point its a finite player base, to your point many people have high end characters on both servers so merging would just give people more access to more high end characters (including multiplying the bot army's that the top guilds have built). There is no incentive for people to start new characters, not twink them out, and engage in low end gameplay.

The only way I see to create such an incentive is a world where the top end characters don't exist, I.E. a new server.

Your comment is already disproven by the years of experience on Blue where people were constantly rolling new alts.

One of the things that drives people being willing to do that is a populated server. You know there will be people to level with. On Blue and Green right now since both are low pop unmerged, no one rolls alts because it's just a boring solo fest. When the pop is good and there are people to play with, people do. Which, again, your whole response is disproven by that fact and the years on Blue where there were constant alts rolled and groupin (at least in the popular leveling zones).

[Toxigen]

Let's face it the most fun part of P99 is having a full raid loot twinked alt and just flexing on scrubs in rags.

[Trexller]

Let's face it the most fun part of P99 is having a full raid loot twinked alt and just flexing on scrubs in rags.

Are there still actually scrubs in rags?

[spoil]

You can pay for a service where players act like they're new and in awe of your pixels.

[f4k3n4m3]

it baffles me that there isnt a reoccurring season every couple years and old servers just get merged together. Games been doing this for years.

[Toxigen]

it baffles me that there isnt a reoccurring season every couple years and old servers just get merged together. Games been doing this for years.

the sweaties would finally have cardiac arrests

they've been working on those pixels for decades now...the keyboards cant hold any more cheeto dust