Green 2.0 - A propsal.

[SenoraRaton]

Why not.... just delete ALL of our characters, build a guild of people interested, set up the discord, and start over Green 2.0 style. Just put anyone who doesn't join on ignore.

You can time lock whatever content you want through mutual agreement. You don't need the Admins to create a new server, you can actualize the reality that you want without them. Put on your big girl pants, man up, and delete your characters.

[Pulgasari]

Finally my chance to get a guise.

[Old_PVP]

Cause 90% of people won't delete and just say they did.

[loramin]

build a guild of people interested, set up the discord, and start over Green 2.0 style

Isn't this the basically Auld Lang Syne (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255352)'s deal?

[Soothsayer]

The problem with this “idea” is that the illusion of a fresh start is shattered whenever you see a dime-a-dozen twink that someone poured 150k plat into who is soloing a camp your guild group wants to do. At that point, you feel dumb for gimping yourself while everyone else is basically roflstomping. I guess you can sort of get around this temporarily by going to places nobody else visits like runnyeye or whatever, but sooner or later you have to return to town… and voila, more Velious geared megatwinks. Again, illusion shattered. That was why I couldn’t get into ALS. It’s just not the same. Not even remotely.

[Duik]

roflstomping is the babys way of playing. Playing p99 is sort of gimping yourself anyways, like less qol and corpse runs and xp loss is why we come here.
Equiping a twink with OP gear is like playing Pay2Win.
But you guys do you.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

roflstomping is the babys way of playing. Playing p99 is sort of gimping yourself anyways, like less qol and corpse runs and xp loss is why we come here.
Equiping a twink with OP gear is like playing Pay2Win.
But you guys do you.

I think it's just more of a time management thing. If you are good at the game, having an untwinked character doesn't really make the game harder. You just need to spend 4x more time leveling compared to a twinked version of your character.

You'd really need to go out of your way to try and challenge yourself if you want to make the game hard again. But even something like a solo self found Warrior can cheese things with bow kiting.

[Respen]

I like this idea just because there would be a large group of people to level up with. As it is right now, I'm playing a live TLP server simply because finding active groups for either of my toons on green is a monumental task here, and believe me I'd rather be playing here, the two RL friends I started playing P99 with quit on me for the lack of players.

I've pretty much committed just to watching P99 forums for when a new green server is released.

[Rader]

Why not.... just delete ALL of our characters, build a guild of people interested, set up the discord, and start over Green 2.0 style. Just put anyone who doesn't join on ignore.

You can time lock whatever content you want through mutual agreement. You don't need the Admins to create a new server, you can actualize the reality that you want without them. Put on your big girl pants, man up, and delete your characters.

Knock yourselves out

[Swish]

Try red instead.

[Pulgasari]

I love that people are suggesting that removing all of your four years of progress voluntarily is the solution to make green great again.

[Trexller]

I love that people are suggesting that removing all of your four years of progress voluntarily is the solution to make green great again.

this concept is also transferable to nation states

[Rimitto]

Why not.... just delete ALL of our characters, build a guild of people interested, set up the discord, and start over Green 2.0 style. Just put anyone who doesn't join on ignore.

You can time lock whatever content you want through mutual agreement. You don't need the Admins to create a new server, you can actualize the reality that you want without them. Put on your big girl pants, man up, and delete your characters.
how would deleting all the characters prevent people from going to velious, or getting jboots from najena?
etc etc etc etc...

[Old_PVP]

Try red instead.

Exactly!

Red is the closest thing to FRESH you all will ever get.

Picture this if you will... open camps everywhere, virtually no economy, raid mobs there for the taking. Some have NEVER been killed!

And literally no PVP until 55+ so don't be scared.

[Swish]

Exactly!

Red is the closest thing to FRESH you all will ever get.

Picture this if you will... open camps everywhere, virtually no economy, raid mobs there for the taking. Some have NEVER been killed!

And literally no PVP until 55+ so don't be scared.

https://i.imgur.com/lrIl6w3.png

[grims]

Exactly!

Red is the closest thing to FRESH you all will ever get.

Picture this if you will... open camps everywhere, virtually no economy, raid mobs there for the taking. Some have NEVER been killed!

And literally no PVP until 55+ so don't be scared.

Everything here is accurate except for the pvp bit, there are tons of greifers zone checking constantly in lowbie leveling area's.

They will then proceed to bring a deleveled twink with raid gear to break damage caps and greif you under level 20.

If you do play red, run anon or roleplay constantly, bring a few friends if you can and have a great time ^ ^.

Source: I played red around 4-6 months last year / Leveled to 55

[Swish]

That's probably the same guy who says you spawn at your start point to a bunch of level 60s waiting to kill you and they laugh as they beat you down until you log out forever.

[magnetaress]

Try red instead.

[DevGrousis]

Played this server off an on for most of my adult life, but these dudes refusing to reset Green after so long forced me away, b/c of how top heavy and stale it was feeling. NEVER would've thought i'd go back to live, but they rotate new TLP's in which gives me that early game EQ experience, with packed leveling zones, I think most of us love so much.

Yes I know that these devs work for free, and that they already have a huge job as is. Not speaking towards their work rate, more so the end result of the decision not to reset.

[cd288]

how would deleting all the characters prevent people from going to velious, or getting jboots from najena?
etc etc etc etc...

Another bot example "jboots from Najena"

[Estrang87]

The nostalgia of a fresh launch always wears off for me when you literally cant exp in multiple zones as every camp is taken 24 hrs a day until the sweatlords hit 50. Then they level a few alts to 50.

[loramin]

Another bot example "jboots from Najena"

Ummm ... jboots do come from Najena (on server launch).

[Duik]

Werent they discussing not the server being reset but voluntary self reset and limiting items used as in era.
Only classic for x months then kunark for y months etc.
So najena wouldnt have jboots.
My memory could be faulty though.
Also rimitto bot bot bot.

[loramin]

So najena wouldnt have jboots.

That's exactly the point that the bot was making: you can self-timelock all you want, but that won't make Drelzna (https://wiki.project1999.com/Drelzna) suddenly spawn.

[Rimitto]

Werent they discussing not the server being reset but voluntary self reset and limiting items used as in era.
Only classic for x months then kunark for y months etc.
So najena wouldnt have jboots.
My memory could be faulty though.
Also rimitto bot bot bot.
you are literally mimicking MSM perfectly. :rolleyes:
You ever think of joining their programming? maybe you could make enough to not care about these forums anymore if you got a real job. :eek:

but yes, the dim bulb loramin is correctly assessing my statements.
Self-Timelocking doesn't effect the world changes, which can play huge parts in how the game is perceived.
(certain items dropping, exp rates changing, new spells and spell locations changing, different npcs, etc etc etc)

A good example is actually the blue jewelry house in freeport. Before velious, you can level up jewelrycrafting in there very fast up to 200+. After velious is introduced, one of the merchants is literally murdered and replaced by a gnome.

[cd288]

Ummm ... jboots do come from Najena (on server launch).

No shit. My point was that we're talking about purposefully timelocking yourself on the current server, which is past that point in the era. So bringing up someone cheating by still getting their JBoots from Najena doesn't make sense

[Duik]

What is an MSM?

Does that make your bot owner a Botanist?

So many questions, so little interest in the answers.

[Jimjam]

Microsoft Messenger? As this is p1999, it was a y2k online culture reference perhaps.

[Solist]

We did this on TAK when the PC client came out.

Was great fun.

[Duik]

Bot bot bot.

[Duik]

Dumb dumb meant DSM perhaps?
Bot bro, do you even parse?