TAKP TLP Jan 1st 2025

[Gotrex]

TAKP is going classic beginning of next year. TAKP TLP - The 10th Anniversary Celebration (https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-tlp-the-10th-anniversary-celebration.31501/)

They even enabled mousewheel for it. Here's a fork of Zeal, TAKP approved (https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-endgame.31540/page-2#post-129608)

From the sounds of it they are even considering it being a single box server.

Good times.

[spoil]

Some predictably terrible opinions from the handful of weirdos currently playing takp. But other people made some good contributions. I just want single-box and enough "QoL" so the game doesn't feel like it's broken.

[Swish]

It's a poggers from me.

[Reiwa]

Some predictably terrible opinions from the handful of weirdos currently playing takp. But other people made some good contributions. I just want single-box and enough "QoL" so the game doesn't feel like it's broken.

https://i.imgur.com/M8yHBNg.png

[Solist]

But takp is excellent and except for the mouse wheel zoom lacking and general UI jerky was always a better server than p99 since it launched.

This could be the spiritual successor to blue we really want since asking for a wipe for 14 years.

[spoil]

Nobody cares about era-accurate bone chip drop rates when the game feels like absolute shit to play.

[Solist]

Yep.

But fix that Ui and it’s a hell of a spot.

Shame about the spell push nonsense, but we adopted it here so cest la vie.

No rooted dragons. Classic recharging. Classic costs etc. Unsure if it has the pathing P99 now has which is atrocious.

[Gotrex]

Nobody cares about era-accurate bone chip drop rates when the game feels like absolute shit to play.

Most popular emu available currently uses TAKP client as it's base. The large user base of quarm demanded the TAKP client be upgraded. Zeal upgraded the QoL. Mousewheel, Camera Smoothness. TAKP client with Zeal camera is not like TAKP client was a year ago without Zeal.

[spoil]

I quit PQ before Zeal. I'm sure it's a big improvement but not as good as the titanium client we're all accustom to.

Hopefully they launch with a good ruleset, one of the incidental benefits will be drawing players off PQ or at least slowing its future growth by attracting all the fresh blood to the new server.

[Evia]

Idk if they did single box I might try it. However at that point how is it much different from PQ?

[spoil]

The launch is 5 months away so stuff is subject to change. Hopefully unlike PQ the changes after launch will be less extreme and more predictable in-line with a consistent vision for the server.

So far it looks like most legacy items won't be in the game. I don't mind legacy items (not that I have any) but I think no legacy is preferable to making rare and overpowered items that were nerfed for a reason into the most easily obtainable items in the game. They also won't be futzing with spawn timers or instances, so the market won't be flooded and the gear you get will be more meaningful.

There is going to be enforced raid rotations, not sure about quakes. I think a lot of people don't like the cut-throat competition on p99, but are also turned off by the live/PQ raid scene. Rotations with occasional quakes seems like a good compromise to me, but I have no idea if that's on the table.

[Solist]

Legacy items dont do anything except give some bagspace for a monk, and help a cleric pre kunark farm.

Very nice to have. But green was classic example. When everyone has a guise guises arent special.

When everyone has 1-5 manastones, manastones arent special. You're kinda more unique there to not have one. They just rot away taking a bag space up on 95% of peoples toons and never get used.

Box of abu karrs are a win tho....

[Evia]

The launch is 5 months away so stuff is subject to change. Hopefully unlike PQ the changes after launch will be less extreme and more predictable in-line with a consistent vision for the server.

So far it looks like most legacy items won't be in the game. I don't mind legacy items (not that I have any) but I think no legacy is preferable to making rare and overpowered items that were nerfed for a reason into the most easily obtainable items in the game. They also won't be futzing with spawn timers or instances, so the market won't be flooded and the gear you get will be more meaningful.

There is going to be enforced raid rotations, not sure about quakes. I think a lot of people don't like the cut-throat competition on p99, but are also turned off by the live/PQ raid scene. Rotations with occasional quakes seems like a good compromise to me, but I have no idea if that's on the table.

When you say "most" legacy items won't be in the game, do you know what the exceptions are? Like, is there some legacy items they're choosing to leave in the game you know about?

Idk. I like fresh start servers, and so I'd likely give it a whirl if it was a no boxing server.

[spoil]

Legacy items dont do anything


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When you say "most" legacy items won't be in the game, do you know what the exceptions are? Like, is there some legacy items they're choosing to leave in the game you know about?


I just read the thread in the takp forum.

"We have added legacy drops like Guise of the Deceiver, Lustrous Russet, Cryosilk, Box of Abu-kar, Rubicite, etc. - but did not include items that would effect the balance of TAKP live server, such as Manastone, Pre-Nerf fungi staff, Staff of Forbidden Rites, Red/White Dragon Teeth, or Circlet of Shadow etc. The legacy items that do drop, will drop at their original drop rates, and for their limited timespans."

But they later said they're considering removing guise.

[Jimjam]

Idk if they did single box I might try it. However at that point how is it much different from PQ?

PQ dramatically improved the takp database. Low level zones / newbie areas are very unclassic on takp, and it shows on new server release. Secret’s team did an okay job at bodging it into a working state.

[Ciderpress]

Legacy items dont do anything except give some bagspace for a monk, and help a cleric pre kunark farm.

Very nice to have. But green was classic example. When everyone has a guise guises arent special.

When everyone has 1-5 manastones, manastones arent special. You're kinda more unique there to not have one. They just rot away taking a bag space up on 95% of peoples toons and never get used.

Box of abu karrs are a win tho....

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

[Reiwa]

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

Guise dropping from the guk camp on Takp TLP would invalidate 10 years of it being the main prize in the yearly anniversary event on the main server.

It could probably get away with dropping under other conditions.

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Guise dropping from the guk camp on Takp TLP would invalidate 10 years of it being the main prize in the yearly anniversary event on the main server.


That could impact tens of people.

It's actually refreshing to see that respect and consideration shown to the players, better than a developer gleefully pulling the rug at the last possible minute with a surprise rule change. Not that I've experienced that directly.

However I think a good argument for keeping guise in the game is it's an incentive for people who are on the fence to jump on the server and play, FOMO and all that. It's also a nice way years down the line to signify you were there from the start.

[Solist]

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

I got guises on four level 5 toons rotting away on dead server. There was no lists if you levelled fast enough, just show up at night, kill ass/sup camp between farming rest of undead tower, and log in alts to loot.

The only list camp that was annoying was manastones. And fair play at how obscenely rare they made them for no reason at all except poor knowledge of EQ by the devs. But every single person on the server got between one and three regardless.

[magnetaress]

Guises should stay in butt new ones should be a different illusion from dark elf.

[Penish]

wont play, whens a new red

[spoil]

For anyone who might be interested in the server they're polling the community's interest in boxing limitations, from single-box to unlimited. And remember this is the most important vote of your lifetime.

https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-tlp-voting-polls-boxing-limits.31691/

[Swish]

For anyone who might be interested in the server they're polling the community's interest in boxing limitations, from single-box to unlimited. And remember this is the most important vote of your lifetime.

https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-tlp-voting-polls-boxing-limits.31691/

2-boxing won it. Shame. A lot of votes went in for unlimited which basically means people are going to attempt to 2-box twice by the power of the VPN.

[spoil]

My impression is it's not binding, they're just asking for feedback. Who exactly are the players that want 'classic' EQ but also want to box starting on day 1? Probably the 70 odd people who voted for that option. But my understanding is the whole point of this exercise is not to launch a quiet little server for current TAKP players, but something that will attract new blood into the TAKP community. If that's the case they probably know what to do, still it wouldn't hurt for people to vote and drop a comment.

[Reiwa]

2-boxing won it. Shame. A lot of votes went in for unlimited which basically means people are going to attempt to 2-box twice by the power of the VPN.

Unfortunate. 2 boxing is only fun in raids and only if you play two casters.

[spoil]

Now they're voting on the expansion release schedule.

https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-tlp-voting-poll-duration.31878/#post-130187

The TAKP community (both of them) want 3-month expansions so the population can be expeditiously dumped into the dead TAKP server. Except there's not going to be a population if they go with that rule set. TAKP players (both of them) are determined to keep their world devoid of players, I hope the developers don't listen to them.

[Reiwa]

Now they're voting on the expansion release schedule.

https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/takp-tlp-voting-poll-duration.31878/#post-130187

The TAKP community (both of them) want 3-month expansions so the population can be expeditiously dumped into the dead TAKP server. Except there's not going to be a population if they go with that rule set. TAKP players (both of them) are determined to keep their world devoid of players, I hope the developers don't listen to them.

If you're so negative on TAKP, why should you have input on TAKPTLP?

Beat it chump!

[Reiwa]

I would listen to people who don’t currently play on TAKP, but respect their staff/product.

Not listen to the 35 people who play on TAKP who are mostly insufferably wankotrons who hate everyone else and have three boxed everything possible.

Hey I haven't three boxed everything possible. :p

[Baler]

I will be playing this.
Hoping it's more akkurate than the Q custom server.

[spoil]

I haven't been following it, too depressing. If they ignore the 'community' feedback and actually adopt a good rule set -- no boxing, no rushing though the expansions on a super accelerated schedule -- then I'll be one of many playing at launch. I have no interest playing on a 100 pop server with 25 other people.

[Reiwa]

I haven't been following it, too depressing. If they ignore the 'community' feedback and actually adopt a good rule set -- no boxing, no rushing though the expansions on a super accelerated schedule -- then I'll be one of many playing at launch. I have no interest playing on a 100 pop server with 25 other people.

It's a feeder server. If you're hostile to TAKP, maybe don't expect to be catered to on TAKPTLP? :confused:

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It's a feeder server. If you're hostile to TAKP, maybe don't expect to be catered to on TAKPTLP? :confused:

It's a feeder server. A server created specifically to get players not currently playing TAKP into the system. And your suggestion to make this feeder server a success is to not give those players any reason to play on the server. What an interesting idea.

[Reiwa]

It's a feeder server. A server created specifically to get players not currently playing TAKP into the system. And your suggestion to make this feeder server a success is to not give those players any reason to play on the server. What an interesting idea.

I'm uninterested in giving you a reason to play the TLP if you've expressed opposition to playing the main server under any circumstances, as you have.

Hope this helps.

[Swish]

I haven't been following it, too depressing. If they ignore the 'community' feedback and actually adopt a good rule set -- no boxing, no rushing though the expansions on a super accelerated schedule -- then I'll be one of many playing at launch. I have no interest playing on a 100 pop server with 25 other people.

They want TLP players more than the likes of us I think.

[spoil]

I'm uninterested in giving you a reason to play the TLP if you've expressed opposition to playing the main server under any circumstances, as you have.

Hope this helps.

I wonder why the TAKP devs are entertaining the idea of making it a single-box server in the first place if the intention is to cater solely or even primarily to current TAKP players.

Hope you're not still confused.

[Reiwa]

I wonder why the TAKP devs are entertaining the idea of making it a single-box server in the first place if the intention is to cater solely or even primarily to current TAKP players.

Hope you're not still confused.

Probably they want to serve people who deride their projects and community.

Probably.

[spoil]

Probably you should act a little more aloof when you attempt sarcasm and not be so thin-skinned.

And to answer your question directly, yes, the TAKP devs are interested in attracting players who don't currently play on TAKP -- that's the point of this project.

[Reiwa]

Probably you should act a little more aloof when you attempt sarcasm and not be so thin-skinned.

And to answer your question directly, yes, the TAKP devs are interested in attracting players who don't currently play on TAKP -- that's the point of this project.

Different category but ok.

[spoil]

lol


We'll do the first half of each expansion limited to 1-box, and the second half will open up 2-boxing limit. So when a new expansion launches, no one will be boxing. We think this is a good compromise to both the 1-box and 2-box voters as it'll promote grouping early in expansion releases and then open up alternatives later in the expansion. So for instance; Vanilla will be 1-box for 3 months, 2-box for the last 3 months. When Kunark launches, it'll be limited to 1-box for the first 3 months, then 2-box for the last 3 months, etc.


At this point just let both people who will be playing on this server box. What a vain attempt at a compromise, the worst of all worlds.

[Reiwa]

TAKP TLP fills the niche of "bothering to pretend to be classic" under a semi-1 box ruleset.

Quarm and the others don't do this.

[Swish]

Looks like by trying to please everyone they're annoying a lot of people.

If you can't box for 3 months and you want to you're missing out or waiting 3 months from launch maybe to play (or try and level 2 characters separately that pair well).

If you don't want to box and don't like servers that have it, you're probably not going to roll on there.

In the meantime there's never been more places to play emulated EQ so people can be picky.

[Reiwa]

Looks like by trying to please everyone they're annoying a lot of people.

If you can't box for 3 months and you want to you're missing out or waiting 3 months from launch maybe to play (or try and level 2 characters separately that pair well).

If you don't want to box and don't like servers that have it, you're probably not going to roll on there.

In the meantime there's never been more places to play emulated EQ so people can be picky.

A main and two alts should be enough to satisfy anyone on this pace of release.

Play your favorite character, or "main", when population spikes at each expansion release.

Bring in your second-loves when the initial rush dies down and do your own things.

At the end of the timeline, you'll be fully prepared to play your trio on the main server.

Although the TLP really should end after Luclin... :p

[Widan]

Looks like by trying to please everyone they're annoying a lot of people.

If you can't box for 3 months and you want to you're missing out or waiting 3 months from launch maybe to play (or try and level 2 characters separately that pair well).

If you don't want to box and don't like servers that have it, you're probably not going to roll on there.

In the meantime there's never been more places to play emulated EQ so people can be picky.

This got changed btw. Can two box the whole time.

[Jimjam]

Glad to hear they are making a server that the 30 people who currently play TAKP will enjoy instead of one which caters to the other 4000 classic everquest fans.

[Gotrex]

Fresh TAKP server dropped a few hours ago. Currently it has a population of about 200 characters. The TAKP team decided to go with with two boxing for their first TAKP TLP based on a poll they ran over the summer. There will be six months between each expansion. This is the only server currently in the Classic era since Kunark won't drop until July.

[Reiwa]

Too many gnomes so far. I think one of the TAKP guilds went all gnome.

[Jimjam]

Too many gnomes so far. I think one of the TAKP guilds went all gnome.

I'm racist against gnome players.

[Reiwa]

Got my names claimed and logged off.

I'll probably play *later today/tonight but busy watching these idiots who didn't opt out of the bowl games risking millions of dollars for pride.

*Thanks terrorists

[Swish]

Looked like 150 or so online just now, assuming some of those are boxing. The timing with THJ and other servers being out there I think everyone's eyes are elsewhere for an EQ fix.

[Reiwa]

Looked like 150 or so online just now, assuming some of those are boxing. The timing with THJ and other servers being out there I think everyone's eyes are elsewhere for an EQ fix.

THJ is barely EverQuest. Oughta to be a tag on Twitch for that type of thing.

[Swish]

THJ is barely EverQuest. Oughta to be a tag on Twitch for that type of thing.

It's the "new thing" though with 2000ish players.

In the absence of Quarm and THJ I reckon the new TAKP TLP would have seen 500+

[Eisai]

I'd play if someone loan me a computer! :P

[spoil]

It's the "new thing" though with 2000ish players.

In the absence of Quarm and THJ I reckon the new TAKP TLP would have seen 500+

I think it's a very small subset of the emu community who get excited about "the most classic server" and also want to multibox. I would say generally those two interests are in opposition.

A single-box launch with a bit of promotion leading up to it, creating a discord for the community and reassuring players they can completely fix the shit TAKP client with zeal (it's amazing) might have been a healthy population regardless.

The devs said one of the goals was 'feeding new players' into the main TAKP server after the merge. Realistically how many new players are going to be there in the end? I kept saying "both" of the players here, but I think that's too optimistic. Not taking shots at the players and certainly not the devs, but the execution doesn't align with that goal. They put a lot of weight behind the preferences of the few people on the TAKP forums, with the expected result in my opinion.

[jolanar]

THJ is barely EverQuest. Oughta to be a tag on Twitch for that type of thing.

THJ is for people who are too cool to admit they would love EQ live.

[Ekco]

THJ is for people who are too cool to admit they would love EQ live.

live is so much worse than THJ, when i played for a month to blitz through the reboot expansions like Empires of Kunark and Torment of Velious my old live server was dead af felt like 20 real people and hundreds of bots farming, even the family guild i joined for a week to do all the content, every one of them was running MQ unattended also.

i assume the progression servers aren't any better, just more actual people playing the shittiest EQ clone available and paying for the privilege

[Cecily]

This server any good? Quarm was awful. Are those people, Quarm staff, involved in any way with this new server?

[Ekco]

no idea who is involved, saw 95% of the eq streams were playing the server like a month ago so checked it out, gameplay loop was good and the multiclass stuff was fun considering it added a shit ton of theory crafting from class AA combos, they thought of inflation and added a Casino npc that had tons of pet illusion clickies, mounts and other shit from the 30 expansions available model wise but the content was at Velious expansion wise

played a BST/CLR/MAG and used a dragon Tooth to have 3 pets, shit was fun reminded me of witch summoner build in path of exile

quit after getting 300 aas cause i basically just fucking hate everquest in general now

[Swish]

This server any good? Quarm was awful. Are those people, Quarm staff, involved in any way with this new server?

It's fun I've been giving it a go. As always a meta emerges and everyone just jumps on board so out of what's probably 100s of possible combos everyone's gone for 5 or 6 of the most efficient ones over what's actually fun/quirky.

Some people are on over 2000 AAs already and are stomping Kerafyrm, others like me are well behind and Luclin is coming soon. I can see that either as I'm gonna have lots of content banked (as you can do everything solo, just scale up your power) or that "can't keep pace, why keep going" like filthy casuals do :D

Fun to try, your mileage may vary.

[CrazyPro]

It's fun I've been giving it a go. As always a meta emerges and everyone just jumps on board so out of what's probably 100s of possible combos everyone's gone for 5 or 6 of the most efficient ones over what's actually fun/quirky.

Some people are on over 2000 AAs already and are stomping Kerafyrm, others like me are well behind and Luclin is coming soon. I can see that either as I'm gonna have lots of content banked (as you can do everything solo, just scale up your power) or that "can't keep pace, why keep going" like filthy casuals do :D

Fun to try, your mileage may vary.

I think they were referring to the TAKP TLP, not THJ.

[Elroz]

TAKP and PQ are different dev teams with different goals

[Reiwa]

need more crash too lazy to farm named normal way

[Reiwa]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-23-2016/xApl7N.gif

[Reiwa]

It's not super confirmed yet but the implied meaning on discord is if you get 60(or, "max level") on TLP you get a guise.

Caveat emptor caedite eos summa non quant je ne sais quoi ceterum autem censeo Singidunum esse delendam

[Skyking]

if french was still the lingua franca, none of this bullshit would be happening.