Crazy or Not So Crazy Idea

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

We only need 4 servers.

First dump Red. We need the hardware. Not enough peeps play on there to raid anything pre-Velious. Unless I am unlucky when ever I log on, there are only on average 30 players.

Server 1 will stay Green for those players that do not want to start over. Merge Red and Blue to Green.

Server 2 will start fresh from the beginning. And never progresses to Kunark. Locked. Everyone will start here that wants to start over.

Server 3 will launch later with Kunark following the original progression timeline. When Kunark opens, those on Server 2 that want their character to move forwards, will do a server transfer to 3. Those characters can never go back to Server 2. Server 3 never progresses forwards. Locked in Kunark.

Server 4 will launch later with Velious following the original progression timeline. When Velious opens, those on Server 2 and 3 that want their character to move forwards, will do a server transfer to 4. Those characters can never go back to Server 2 or 3. Server 4 obviously stays locked in Velious.

This allows those guilds and peeps that always want to start over, to always be able to start all over. And everyone gets to decide which era they want to always play in.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It would be a cool idea if there were more players.

With the two existing servers the populations are already smaller than I would like. Four servers would only have like 300 players each if the existing population split evenly. If it didn't, at least one server would probably be dead.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

It would be a cool idea if there were more players.

With the two existing servers the populations are already smaller than I would like. Four servers would only have like 300 players each if the existing population split evenly. If it didn't, at least one server would probably be dead.

If that is the consensus. Then there lies the problem.

Those peeps that keep wanting to wipe the servers and start a fresh one know wiping Green or Blue is unpopular.

They want to force everyone to play in their sandbox to keep a large population, by deleting everyone else's sandbox, leaving them only one choice if they want to play the game.

[Toxigen]

how about no - any further dilution is a terrible idea

wipe red clean, fix bowquest / resists, let the degenerate druggies have a fresh no CSR shitbox to duke it out on...would bring a ton of players from the rest of the back channel boxes back

merge green and blue, fix the retarded raid rules / meta, make raiding competition great again without a zerg (1 hour FTE lockouts, no rooted dragons, no bag limits, recharges, and Sirken-era suspensions for fuckery...the elves need a bit of iron fisting)

then sometime later down the line go with that Green 2.0 you all crave so much

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

how about no - any further dilution is a terrible idea

wipe red clean, fix bowquest / resists, let the degenerate druggies have a fresh no CSR shitbox to duke it out on...would bring a ton of players from the rest of the back channel boxes back

merge green and blue, fix the retarded raid rules / meta, make raiding competition great again without a zerg (1 hour FTE lockouts, no rooted dragons, no bag limits, recharges, and Sirken-era suspensions for fuckery...the elves need a bit of iron fisting)

then sometime later down the line go with that Green 2.0 you all crave so much

If you or anyone else wants to completely change the Classic game into something else, learn to Code and start your own server. If that sounds like to much work, Quarm is that way --->

[shovelquest]

Just merge green into blue when luclin launches, reset, and let us all fricken enjoy classic EQ for gods sake we got people roleplaying the server reset with hardcore guilds for like the 8th time.

How is this a difficult decision? I don't get it.

Alternatively the love nilbog seemed to have for discord on the boards, and the lack of a discord server, makes me want to just sit on the floor and cry.

[Toxigen]

If you or anyone else wants to completely change the Classic game into something else, learn to Code and start your own server. If that sounds like to much work, Quarm is that way --->

what are you talking about?

there is so much about p99 that isn't remotely close to being classic

im just saying, from a population standpoint...merge 'em and fix these asinine raid rules to bring back some competition

i just threw red in there because those are the two biggest complaints about red (ignoring lack of pop)...bow dmg and resists

or just unplug red forever and dont worry about it, approximately 5 people would care

[sajbert]

Merge Green and Blue and rename it Teal. The arguments against are raid mob competition and the broken economy.. A better populated server is worth that cost. I guess the actual problem is that devs either enjoy the servers as they are or can't be arsed (understandable).

Launch

1) Red 2.0

OR

2) Green 2.0

Cycle these servers into Teal or Red 1.0 respectively once Sleeper is awakened or 12 months after Velious is released.

... Barring this, just release Legacy items on the original release cycle and never bother with fresh servers again.

[Infectious]

P99 has been slain by lady secrets. It's double exp week for their one year anniversary. Join now or wait for the next server in 10 years

[Duik]

Your infection is not virulent at all.
Come back when you have ebola.

[Troxx]

1. Merge green and blue. Launch new green.
2. Respawn sleeper
3. Any character/account involved in waking sleeper gets “eaten” by sleeper - account permanently banned/deleted.
4. Repeat 2
5. Repeat 3
6. Repeat 2
7. Repeat 3
8. Repeat 2
9. Repeat 3
10. Repeat 2
11. Repeat 3
12. Repeat 2
13. Repeat 3
14. Repeat 2
15. Repeat 3
…..

[Xer0]

If that is the consensus. Then there lies the problem.

Those peeps that keep wanting to wipe the servers and start a fresh one know wiping Green or Blue is unpopular.

They want to force everyone to play in their sandbox to keep a large population, by deleting everyone else's sandbox, leaving them only one choice if they want to play the game.

I think the most logical solution is to do what they initially planned andmerge green and blue, and start a server that consistently wipes a year or two after the last timeline patch, (or just repurpose green for this mechanic as originally spoken about) possibly after merging it's characters onto blue.

Just like on blue when green launched, there would be enough holdouts devoted to their established character rosters that would have 0 interest in switching to a new server. And when you combine the holdouts from blue and the holdouts from green, it would be a sustained, healthy population I believe. Just imagine if the blue population doubled. Because I think that's the effect you'd have.

And then you'd have the droves of people that would swarm the fresh server, and do so continuously with each content drop/timeline refresh. And each wipe/refresh would probably add a handful of new players to blue via merger, as people finally tired of starting over etc.

[Xer0]

If you or anyone else wants to completely change the Classic game into something else, learn to Code and start your own server. If that sounds like to much work, Quarm is that way --->
stop shilling for quarm. arent you also the one t hat just posted "OMG ISNT P99 A MUSEUM NOW"?

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

stop shilling for quarm. arent you also the one t hat just posted "OMG ISNT P99 A MUSEUM NOW"?

No, I didn't. Actually I haven't posted anything new in months.

Now don't you look like a big fat clown.

[Infectious]

stop shilling for quarm. arent you also the one t hat just posted "OMG ISNT P99 A MUSEUM NOW"?

Quarm is a very fun server created by a guide from p99, Lady Secrets. Over 1k pop nightly, helpful guides on around the clock, groups every where.

Or play here on a graveyard server where the person in charge hasn't been seen in 3 years(lol)

[Duik]

Hey, by saying "Lady Secrets" are you trying to insult? You have mentioned it twice now. Weird.
Im not sure so treat this as a question.

Also, if you all are having so much fun on Kwarm maybe post over there on their forum (lolocaust) or play! and be happy.

[Duik]

1224 The Convergence
787 Project Quarm
As of right now these are the populations...

There is a new kid on the block!

Also.
You could literally call both of them Ephemeral Server1 and Ephemeral Server2.

And no insults.

[Infectious]

Hey, by saying "Lady Secrets" are you trying to insult? You have mentioned it twice now. Weird.
Im not sure so treat this as a question.

Also, if you all are having so much fun on Kwarm maybe post over there on their forum (lolocaust) or play! and be happy.

What. I would call her king secrets if that was the case. Don't try to deflect and praise your lord and savior Lady Secrets.

[Infectious]

Fix pathing.
Fix melee aggro.
Fix sneak pulling.
Fix leashing.
Fix NPC resists and ATK power.
Fix bow damage bonus, PC resists, PC dex ridiculousness.
Unroot npc's, and remove all these nerfed clicky changes.

Make a new red that rolls in to existing red after 6 months. Current end of velious timeline from launch. 5x XP bonus. Legacy items. Let the red dudes have somewhere to be red shitters.

Merge blue and green. Rotate a bunch of the best raid rules every month or so.
See how that plays out for a while.

It's coming. Just wait and see. :rolleyes:

[Jimjam]

Fix pathing.
Fix melee aggro.
Fix sneak pulling.
Fix leashing.
Fix NPC resists and ATK power.
Fix bow damage bonus, PC resists, PC dex ridiculousness.
Unroot npc's, and remove all these nerfed clicky changes.

Make a new red that rolls in to existing red after 6 months. Current end of velious timeline from launch. 5x XP bonus. Legacy items. Let the red dudes have somewhere to be red shitters.

Merge blue and green. Rotate a bunch of the best raid rules every month or so.
See how that plays out for a while.

Choose life vibes.

By the way, what is PC dex ridiculousness?

[Duik]

What. I would call her king secrets if that was the case. Don't try to deflect and praise your lord and savior Lady Secrets.

Wow. You get that was a question right? Also relax somewhat. You sir, are what we call here a nutter.

[Salaryman]

its gonna be an empty museum with just me and the other True Legends playing and thats how brad and rogon intended.

Go play a modern(lol) mmo if you want constant wipes and updates to make up for the fact that you arent good at games and cant win and cement your legacy when the servers first start like I did.

[Swish]

Red will last forever OP, give it a try if you're looking for a fresh start with an XP bonus.

[onmove_broke]

I like the idea of having a true classic server where nothing changes from launch. Manastones, mistwalkers, Jboots etc remain as they were meant to be.

[Xer0]

We only need 4 servers.

First dump Red. We need the hardware. Not enough peeps play on there to raid anything pre-Velious. Unless I am unlucky when ever I log on, there are only on average 30 players.

Server 1 will stay Green for those players that do not want to start over. Merge Red and Blue to Green.

Server 2 will start fresh from the beginning. And never progresses to Kunark. Locked. Everyone will start here that wants to start over.

Server 3 will launch later with Kunark following the original progression timeline. When Kunark opens, those on Server 2 that want their character to move forwards, will do a server transfer to 3. Those characters can never go back to Server 2. Server 3 never progresses forwards. Locked in Kunark.

Server 4 will launch later with Velious following the original progression timeline. When Velious opens, those on Server 2 and 3 that want their character to move forwards, will do a server transfer to 4. Those characters can never go back to Server 2 or 3. Server 4 obviously stays locked in Velious.

This allows those guilds and peeps that always want to start over, to always be able to start all over. And everyone gets to decide which era they want to always play in.

all they need to do is their original plan for green. keepstarting from day 1 every few years. at t he end of the timeline, merge the server into blue.

Right now they should really do that with blue/green. both the server pops are low. Combined they would be healthy.