Progression Server

[Algustus]

Hey folks. I started here with Green when it was a new progression server. I'd love to see that happen again. Are there licensing issues that prevent us from doing it again? Like would we have to merge green and blue to have the right number of servers or something?

Just curious what the issues are. I'm sure there must be something that keeps us from doing a day one server again.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Hey folks. I started here with Green when it was a new progression server. I'd love to see that happen again. Are there licensing issues that prevent us from doing it again? Like would we have to merge green and blue to have the right number of servers or something?

Just curious what the issues are. I'm sure there must be something that keeps us from doing a day one server again.

As far as I know there isn't a legal issue. It's just up to the devs when they want to roll a new server.

My hunch is they are still torn on how they want to do it. Will they merge green and blue? If so, how do the characters from both servers on a single account get merged together nicely? If the servers don't merge, then the population is probably going to be too split. If they delete a server and it's characters, you'll probably get a lot of people who just stop playing, etc.

[Eisai]

Poll vote: new server

Do whatever you want with blue/green. Treat them like you do red for all I care.
New server with no reserved guild or char names. We need a kickstarter for the hardware and hosting?

[cd288]

As far as I know there isn't a legal issue. It's just up to the devs when they want to roll a new server.

My hunch is they are still torn on how they want to do it. Will they merge green and blue? If so, how do the characters from both servers on a single account get merged together nicely? If the servers don't merge, then the population is probably going to be too split. If they delete a server and it's characters, you'll probably get a lot of people who just stop playing, etc.

They already said if you have duplicate names that they would add an X to the Green char's name if you used the same name as your Blue character.

They also gave a very explicit warning upfront that if you created Green characters on the same account that you use on Blue, and in the aggregate had more than 8 characters between the two accounts, you would not be able to see some of the characters on the character select screen post-merge. You'd need to delete existing characters to have the excess ones show up. They were clear that this was a limitation of the client and not P99...so not sure if they'd ever be able to find a workaround for that, but in any case they were very clear about the risk and if someone didn't listen to them that's on that person not the staff.

[cd288]

Poll vote: new server

Do whatever you want with blue/green. Treat them like you do red for all I care.
New server with no reserved guild or char names. We need a kickstarter for the hardware and hosting?

You'd have to at least reserve char names in the same way they did for Green. If for nothing else than to prevent jerks from creating a char name of somebody and griefing others to try and ruin their rep on P99 in general.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

They already said if you have duplicate names that they would add an X to the Green char's name if you used the same name as your Blue character.

They also gave a very explicit warning upfront that if you created Green characters on the same account that you use on Blue, and in the aggregate had more than 8 characters between the two accounts, you would not be able to see some of the characters on the character select screen post-merge. You'd need to delete existing characters to have the excess ones show up. They were clear that this was a limitation of the client and not P99...so not sure if they'd ever be able to find a workaround for that, but in any case they were very clear about the risk and if someone didn't listen to them that's on that person not the staff.

Oh I agree it isn't an insurmountable problem, and they can cover themselves by giving people warnings. But people are often unreasonable, and/or may have missed the memo.

It's still a risk you'll lose players if the merge doesn't go smoothly. Especially for players who can't play their favorite character right away for whatever reason.

Personally I think merging is still the best option so you don't have a 3-way population split. That will end up being worse than merging issues, unless they really drop the ball somehow.

[Eisai]

You'd have to at least reserve char names in the same way they did for Green. If for nothing else than to prevent jerks from creating a char name of somebody and griefing others to try and ruin their rep on P99 in general.

What's stopping this silly possibility anywhere else? I made your name on tlp and twitter and even filled out a prayer request at your local church for fetish porn addiction (too far?). But hey, atleast no-one can make the same char name on a new server as that guy that died six years ago.
I get that green/blue is what it is but why treat a name like it's an NFT? I don't really care about the names but i don't understand creating a pile of work for no reason. New. Fresh. Nepo-free. Either way, Why must we put grandma in a home before we can have a baby, doug?

[Swish]

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[cd288]

What's stopping this silly possibility anywhere else? I made your name on tlp and twitter and even filled out a prayer request at your local church for fetish porn addiction (too far?). But hey, atleast no-one can make the same char name on a new server as that guy that died six years ago.
I get that green/blue is what it is but why treat a name like it's an NFT? I don't really care about the names but i don't understand creating a pile of work for no reason. New. Fresh. Nepo-free. Either way, Why must we put grandma in a home before we can have a baby, doug?

Because it's their project and there are a lot of a holes on this server who would intentionally do that and ruin peoples' names within the community of this specific project. The risk outweighs the benefit.

[Eisai]

Because it's their project and there are a lot of a holes on this server who would intentionally do that and ruin peoples' names within the community of this specific project. The risk outweighs the benefit.

Oh! Well that is a pretty good reason to punish the few people that have to deal with that box of old christmas lights. (please forgive my apparent snarkiness). I really hope they come up with something that pleases all of the 2-3000 people equally. I just, stupidly, thought a clean slate would be both classic and solve the name issue.

[Eisai]

Love it we're at the 'wipe it clean' part of green.

Like blue has been asking for since 2011.

I just want a new one... I don't want to purge or merge cause I'd never login to either one again anyhow. So whichever is fine by me, as long as i can go back to crawling and grinding through the timeline again. Keep your name if you need it - heck, you can have one or all of my 117 names.

[Algustus]

Thanks folks. It's been an interesting conversation. So basically it's a lot of work, but we could do it without a server merge, but there are population concerns if we do that.

I'm thinking more people would come back and play if there was a new progression server. There would be some population increase from returning players wanting to play their higher level characters so the hit on the high end characters for raids and what not would not be that bad.

There is the hardware and time/blood/sweat/tears from our folks that keep the game going too!

[cd288]

Love it we're at the 'wipe it clean' part of green.

Like blue has been asking for since 2011.

I would strongly oppose purging all characters and they would never do that anyway because there'd be no point to it. if they're starting a new progression server then you have an option to play on a server that doesn't have existing chars on it.

[Duik]

I'm not in the know at all but I would not think a progession server of any sort os incomming on p99 cuz that is Daybreaks bread and butter.

It can not be put more simply than that.

That however is just IMHO.

Just think people.

[Eisai]

I'm not in the know at all but I would not think a progession server of any sort os incomming on p99 cuz that is Daybreaks bread and butter.

It can not be put more simply than that.

That however is just IMHO.

Just think people.

Heard daybreak was bought out, did they keep the name?

[Old_PVP]

Just curious what the issues are. I'm sure there must be something that keeps us from doing a day one server again.

The issues are the devs are busy playing other games and have checked out.

[cd288]

The issues are the devs are busy playing other games and have checked out.

Except the recent even and patch changes make clear that they're not checked out.

Nilbog also responded in a thread that certain changes (like the BGs in HK no longer being there after November 1999) should be expected in future iterations of the server.

[WarpathEQ]

Except the recent even and patch changes make clear that they're not checked out.

Nilbog also responded in a thread that certain changes (like the BGs in HK no longer being there after November 1999) should be expected in future iterations of the server.

Yeah I balance the amount of patch changes that focused on patching content prior to the current timeline (would only impact a new server/progression) with the realization that it was like 3 years between patches and many of those things were probably fixed in parallel with green launch and in timeline issues when they were addressed but were just never pushed into production with a patch.

Part of me feels optimistic that the patch is a precursor to a new server/reset. Part of me feels like it was just addressing things in real time, those things became unimportant due to progression and therefore it wasn't urgent to release patches along the way.

[cd288]

It's probably a mix of both. Nilbog and Rogean push those updates out when they have the time in their own lives and feel like doing it. I wouldn't say that it means a new server is right around the corner, but I do think Nilbog's response means that they have a plan for a new server eventually. Whether that's in the next few months or like a year from now remains to be seen.

[shovelquest]

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[Algustus]

Well, if any future change involved allowing binds at the Fire Pots all my personal desire for a progression server would be met.

[Eisai]

Well, if any future change involved allowing binds at the Fire Pots all my personal desire for a progression server would be met.

And then I could snipe some of those DAP druids!

[Leorus]

There’s this Everquest inspired MMO called Evercraft Online that had a cool mechanic during one of their recent stress tests around Halloween called the Whispers of Grixus. They had a few servers up and no matter what server you logged into your characters were there. That way if one server was too full you could jump to another or if your friends happened to be on a particular server you could go there.

Not saying that’s the solution for P99 between Green and Blue but it could be cool to give that flexibility and it could help folks on blue that want to group allow guilds to hop between servers in the event of contested spawns.

[cd288]

There’s this Everquest inspired MMO called Evercraft Online that had a cool mechanic during one of their recent stress tests around Halloween called the Whispers of Grixus. They had a few servers up and no matter what server you logged into your characters were there. That way if one server was too full you could jump to another or if your friends happened to be on a particular server you could go there.

Not saying that’s the solution for P99 between Green and Blue but it could be cool to give that flexibility and it could help folks on blue that want to group allow guilds to hop between servers in the event of contested spawns.

At that point just merge the server

[Murt_Lino]

can we please merge the servers :(

[|tda| fatal]

^ do it already.

both servers are dead.

save classic eq

[sajbert]

Well, if any future change involved allowing binds at the Fire Pots all my personal desire for a progression server would be met.

More or less this. I don't feel a strong desire for a new server, it's shit fighting over crap camps like Cynthia. Just want the legacy items + firepot binds. I guess I'd enjoy grouping in places like Guk.

What class would u firepot bind?

[shovelquest]

There’s this Everquest inspired MMO called Evercraft Online that had a cool mechanic during one of their recent stress tests around Halloween called the Whispers of Grixus. They had a few servers up and no matter what server you logged into your characters were there. That way if one server was too full you could jump to another or if your friends happened to be on a particular server you could go there.

Not saying that’s the solution for P99 between Green and Blue but it could be cool to give that flexibility and it could help folks on blue that want to group allow guilds to hop between servers in the event of contested spawns.

I literally have zero clue why there is this stupid construct of not being able to move your characters to 1 server to another in a video game.

Like, seriously, whatever you believe is just filler, there is no reason other than nonsense jibberish.

Oh no.. OH GOD NO.. some guy who loves this game moved his character from one server to group with another group?! oh NO oh GOD oh NO! What will COME of this video game now!?!?

[Swish]

That's a not classic from me.