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shovelquest
02-04-2025, 03:38 PM
It’s sad but I remember Faerun better than the neighborhood I grew up in lol

Sounds awesome! :D

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 03:44 PM
Sounds awesome! :D

There’s some real gems in the FR books

I loved them until a friend who read way more than me became a fantasy snob and said those books are lowbrow fantasy for kids and shoved the Wheel of Time and GRR Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire books in my hands and said “are you ready to read some grown up fantasy??”

I could never get into those books. Got at least 2 books into Song of Ice and Fire though before burning out

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 03:46 PM
*yawn

Already shown that the recession and the initial 9.2% inflation is thanks to the Orange man's mismanagement.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3718293&postcount=545

Note Biden got us to 2.9 to 3.0 inflation at the end of his administration.

In 2020, there were indeed requests from the oil refining sector for financial assistance due to the severe economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on their operations.

In the U.S., while there was no direct, explicit mention of refineries seeking a bailout package specifically, the broader oil and gas industry, which includes refineries, benefited significantly from government relief efforts. The industry received more than $10 billion in various forms of aid, including tax benefits from the CARES Act and support through the Federal Reserve's Main Street Lending Program, which was adjusted to accommodate oil and gas firms. This was noted by sources like Quartz (qz.com) and Reuters, detailing how companies were struggling with low oil prices and were seeking liquidity to survive.

Also China was being a penis about the Jones Act to bully sniffy into a waiver program. He didn't go for it.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 03:50 PM
Speaking of oil, gas where I live has gone up .40 in the last month. Was 2.80 now 3.199

Hope it comes back down eventually

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 03:57 PM
Democrats talk about international trade when you say the US economy is shit.

And then they say teamsters that vote for republicans are actually reptoids wearing skinsuits trying to build a new technocratic world dictatorship.

Botten
02-04-2025, 03:58 PM
Speaking of oil, gas where I live has gone up .40 in the last month. Was 2.80 now 3.199

Hope it comes back down eventually

Constant renewed threat of tariffs could be more dangerous than applying the tariffs.

We get to do this all over again in less than a month supposedly. Oil prices have a terrible cooldown period.

Sidenote: Meanwhile others can't grasp it was Harris vs the Orange man :rolleyes:

Ekco
02-04-2025, 04:02 PM
There’s some real gems in the FR books

I loved them until a friend who read way more than me became a fantasy snob and said those books are lowbrow fantasy for kids and shoved the Wheel of Time and GRR Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire books in my hands and said “are you ready to read some grown up fantasy??”

I could never get into those books. Got at least 2 books into Song of Ice and Fire though before burning out

do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ic0AAOSwSiBnDp-e/s-l1200.jpg

Raistlin Majere is the only Wizard that matters.

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 04:10 PM
Constant renewed threat of tariffs could be more dangerous than applying the tariffs.

We get to do this all over again in less than a month supposedly. Oil prices have a terrible cooldown period.

Sidenote: Meanwhile others can't grasp it was Harris vs the Orange man :rolleyes:

Oil jerk alliance said they're gonna increase production(and therefore lower prices) starting in Q2 2025. Vatniks in disarray.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 04:13 PM
In the first 2 weeks of trumps prsidency he has basically won at life.

In the first 2 of Biden's he killed 13 soldiers and literally gave billions in military equipment to the religious cult enemy of the US that killed more Americans on American soil since the revolutionary war.

And let all the people who helped us fight them for the last 20 years, die by falling off of airplanes.

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 04:15 PM
In the first 2 weeks of trumps prsidency he has basically won at life.

In the first 2 of Biden's he killed 13 soldiers and literally gave billions in military equipment to the religious cult that killed more Americans on American soil since the revolutionary war.

And let all the people who helped us for the last 20 years, die by falling off of airplanes.

Every jeep could have been a bomb. Globemaster lives matter.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 04:15 PM
Every jeep could have been a bomb.

If we were based like Israel they would have been :p

Botten
02-04-2025, 04:39 PM
In the first 2 weeks of trumps prsidency he has basically won at life.

In the first 2 of Biden's he killed 13 soldiers and literally gave billions in military equipment to the religious cult enemy of the US that killed more Americans on American soil since the revolutionary war.

And let all the people who helped us fight them for the last 20 years, die by falling off of airplanes.

5000+ prisoners that killed our troops released in Trump's exist plan for Afghanistan

And oh this.

Thanks Orange Man term! 64 citizens and 3 soldiers. Have they said the soldiers names yet?

UznsHLOrGwU

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 05:17 PM
Those 5000 prisoners were held in Afghanistan prisons. Are you seriously under the impression that biden would have not left them there with the billions of weapons he left their bro's with?

Not to mention the people who were so desperate to leave with us because they helped us and were about to be tortured to death, clinging onto airplanes and falling thousands of feet in a horrific example of gross incompetency.

Botten
02-04-2025, 05:21 PM
I find it very alarming we are sending more to Guantanamo (https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5280268/trump-is-facing-criticism-for-plans-to-hold-up-to-30-000-migrants-at-guantanamo-bay) and withdrawing from the UN Human Rights organization (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-signs-executive-order-to-withdraw-u-s-from-u-n-human-rights-council-231086661866).

Crazier still is the consideration to send US citizens to El Salvador prisons.

Botten
02-04-2025, 05:23 PM
Those 5000 prisoners were held in Afghanistan prisons. Are you seriously under the impression that biden would have not left them there with the billions of weapons he left their bro's with?

Not to mention the people who were so desperate to leave with us because they helped us and were about to be tortured to death, clinging onto airplanes and falling thousands of feet in a horrific example of gross incompetency.

yes 5000+ prisoners of war that hurt our soldiers were let go by the Orange Man.

And The Orange man's plan was followed.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 05:25 PM
I find it very alarming we are sending more to Guantanamo (https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5280268/trump-is-facing-criticism-for-plans-to-hold-up-to-30-000-migrants-at-guantanamo-bay) and withdrawing from the UN Human Rights organization (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-signs-executive-order-to-withdraw-u-s-from-u-n-human-rights-council-231086661866).

Crazier still is the consideration to send US citizens to El Salvador prisons.

To bad you can't protest anymore because that'd be an insurrection and we'd throw all their asses there too! :cool:

Botten
02-04-2025, 05:36 PM
To bad you can't protest anymore because that'd be an insurrection and we'd throw all their asses there too! :cool:

Protests are already happening.

50501 protests update as anti-Trump march in 50 states expand (https://www.newsweek.com/50501-protests-update-anti-trump-march-50-states-expands-2025741)

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 05:49 PM
yes 5000+ prisoners of war that hurt our soldiers were let go by the Orange Man.

And The Orange man's plan was followed.


First of all, Trumps plan was not followed. His plan was to withdrawal through peaceful negotiations and those prisoners was the start of those negotiations and happened 2 months before the election.

Biden withdrew from those negotiations when he won that election and just left.

And that's why he left billions in weapons, afgans that helped us, and would have left the prisoners as well if trump didn't release them.

Trexller
02-04-2025, 05:58 PM
Botten is the living embodiment of confirmation bias

Lune
02-04-2025, 06:13 PM
In the first 2 weeks of trumps prsidency he has basically won at life.

In the first 2 of Biden's he killed 13 soldiers and literally gave billions in military equipment to the religious cult enemy of the US that killed more Americans on American soil since the revolutionary war.

And let all the people who helped us fight them for the last 20 years, die by falling off of airplanes.

Maybe, maybe not. All I know after the last 8 years or so is, regardless, you and the other flunkies would still be licking his ass.

You really don't see Democrats going around saying BIDEN WAS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER when he objectively was not. In fact, they basically deposed him lol

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 06:24 PM
You really don't see Democrats going around saying BIDEN WAS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER when he objectively was not. In fact, they basically deposed him lol

yea they did lol that was on CNN and MSNBC and still is 24 hours a day lol

Ekco
02-04-2025, 06:26 PM
bah, if you want anything off the internet archive, might wanna get it now

Internet Archive played crucial role in tracking shady CDC data removals

When thousands of pages started disappearing from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website late last week, public health researchers quickly moved to archive deleted public health data.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/internet-archive-played-crucial-role-in-tracking-shady-cdc-data-removals/

place was already in trouble due to copyright lawsuits now some idiots drug it into politics

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 06:48 PM
Sooner or later Ai will get to read every summarian cunaform and it will find and scan every wirtten document, and read every email ever written and it will uncover the truth about everything and will create profiles of everyone that will identify who everyone is all over the internet and there will be no such thing as privacy in any way and we'll know who did what and all that beause it can re-create the past or construct the future like that TV show Devs with 99.99% accuracy.

So no worries.

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 06:49 PM
Protests are already happening.

50501 protests update as anti-Trump march in 50 states expand (https://www.newsweek.com/50501-protests-update-anti-trump-march-50-states-expands-2025741)

I think I'm unduly spooked about this. Thanks for the fearporn.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 06:50 PM
I find it very alarming we are sending more to Guantanamo (https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5280268/trump-is-facing-criticism-for-plans-to-hold-up-to-30-000-migrants-at-guantanamo-bay) and withdrawing from the UN Human Rights organization (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-signs-executive-order-to-withdraw-u-s-from-u-n-human-rights-council-231086661866).

Crazier still is the consideration to send US citizens to El Salvador prisons.

This is interesting, I had heard about Guantanamo. I wonder if they’re going to blast 24 hours of the same Eminem song and leave the lights on all day and night. I remember when I first heard that I was like “well that’s not so bad, I like Eminem”, but then I found out it was the same song on repeat. That might get a bit old. Although sometimes with a new hit song I like I’ll listen to that shit over and over…Although I heard they waterboarded prisoners too I’m assuming that will have to stop

But the El Salvador prison thing is pretty wild. I bet those places are super shitholes. I’ve watched a few documentaries on Central American prisons and the prisoners don’t look like ones here who are often all jacked and shit. Their prisoners are sickly stick figures, starving. Also crammed together so many to a cell that they can’t even lie down

But the other side of the coin is places like CA apparently have so little room in their prisons (or jails maybe getting those mixed up) that not a lot of people realize that’s partly why so many criminals get put back on the streets. Everyone assumes it’s lax laws about non-violent crimes but it’s also because there’s no damn room to put them

Ciderpress
02-04-2025, 07:00 PM
Uh oh, withdrawing from the UN human rights thing must mean he doesn't care about human rights!!

I too am simple.

Ciderpress
02-04-2025, 07:03 PM
It's not like people ever do nefarious things under the guise of a benevolent-sounding thing, such that examining it becomes rude. It's not like that's literally a mob tactic.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 07:04 PM
I spit at of the UN human rights organization.

It's just a bunch of failing anti Israel countries grouped up into one giant call Israel evil club.

Ekco
02-04-2025, 07:08 PM
it will uncover the truth about everything and will create profiles of everyone that will identify who everyone is all over the internet and there will be no such thing as privacy in any way and we'll know who did what and all that beause it can re-create the past or construct the future

i actually freaked out about this last year.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 07:10 PM
i actually freaked out about this last year.

none will be safe! All of elons anon accounts will be linked by the turkish AI god that we didn't see coming.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 07:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PRlN557.png

:D

The call:

WM4v3r_ydpM

Mexican President:

https://i.imgur.com/WyIV6kO.png

https://i.imgur.com/2rG6sQG.png

vLXGnGO_Do0

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 08:17 PM
"The US will take over the Gaza Strip.

We'll own it"

https://i.imgur.com/8DxeBD7.gif

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 08:49 PM
"The US will take over the Gaza Strip.

We'll own it"

https://i.imgur.com/8DxeBD7.gif

Now there's an idea. :rolleyes:

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 08:50 PM
https://x.com/GoldsteinBrooke/status/1886909255711670524

Look at BIBI just totally glowing in this clip hes thinking "holy shit Ive wanted to say this out loud so bad I can't believe this is happening" 🤣🤣🤣

Botten
02-04-2025, 09:01 PM
Orange Man's Trail of tears for the Palestine People.

All for what... some beach property his son wants? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-u-s-will-own-and-develop-gaza-strip/ar-AA1yq3N1?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=52e4590d524543cbf35f644bfb48c18d&ei=10)

disgusting

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 09:02 PM
FAFO - Could have been their own beach front property at any point in the last 60 years.

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 09:08 PM
FAFO - Could have been their own beach front property at any point in the last 60 years.

no no, it's an open air prison. (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g663088-d8307376-Reviews-Blue_Beach_Resort-Gaza_City_Gaza.html)

https://cdn.i24news.tv/upload/cache/medium_image/upload/image/10fa8261cd3bac8f00bd4ac6ab8d4841c3c79e6f.jpg

Botten
02-04-2025, 09:11 PM
FAFO - Could have been their own beach front property at any point in the last 60 years.

A non-stop drain to protect a piece of land prone to be hit by a dirty bomb by those with a religious and cultural vendetta.

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 09:18 PM
"Flood the zone with shit and the media will take the bait everytime"

The Gaza thing is that.

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 09:20 PM
9/11 was over Palestine. I'm sure this will be an EZ transition for the world lmao this is gonna be so fucking nuts

Ekco
02-04-2025, 09:32 PM
lol.

Trexller
02-04-2025, 09:47 PM
Palestine People.

These people partied in the streets on 9/11, they openly espouse genocidal anti-semitic rhetoric, death to america sentiments.

Israel could kill every living "palestinian" 100 times over, yet doesn't do it. Israel could wipe them off the face of the earth, and yet they don't do it.

Hamas literally calls for the murder of every jew in the world, but they aren't capable of doing it.

Show me on a map where the nation of palestine is, go ahead find a map

It's almost as if it doesn't exist, why do you think that is? And why you wanna take the side of the most barbaric horde of islamic jihadists that ever walked the earth?

Botten
02-04-2025, 09:51 PM
"Flood the zone with shit and the media will take the bait everytime"

The Gaza thing is that.

You are right, sorry

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 10:19 PM
Tomorrows headline

"trump walks back plans to take over Gaza"

but also

"3400 Israelis killed in rocket attacks and suicide bombings"

Trexller
02-04-2025, 10:35 PM
if the middle east wanted a real solution for gaza then egypt jordan and qatar would agree on a coalition administrative government

but that's not what the middle east wants, there is a reason that they only support the palestinians enough to keep them alive, but not give them a chance

muslim brotherhood nations can't accept the terrorist threat that comes along with opening their doors to palestinians

Hamas straight up bombs any nation that they can get access to, Eqypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't want them, Lebanon doesn't want them

Nobody wants the palestinians to exist

Israel does the dirty work that the middle east wants but can't do themselves

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 10:40 PM
Twitch.tv gonna be lit tomorrow.

Botten
02-04-2025, 10:51 PM
Trump says he's given advisers instructions for Iran to be 'obliterated' if it assassinates him (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-he-s-given-advisers-instructions-for-iran-to-be-obliterated-if-it-assassinates-him/ar-AA1ypy55?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2c75daab6654e789f1bbefc2a9c2f89&ei=46)

Factual proof would be required before any such response..that would mean first clearing any and all disgruntled GOP voters who might try again.

Then only taking such an act of revenge if and only if FACTS prove that the act was conducted by Iran..

Factual proof is not something the felon can ever come up with..just blaming and accusing is his specialty.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 10:53 PM
if the middle east wanted a real solution for gaza then egypt jordan and qatar would agree on a coalition administrative government

but that's not what the middle east wants, there is a reason that they only support the palestinians enough to keep them alive, but not give them a chance

muslim brotherhood nations can't accept the terrorist threat that comes along with opening their doors to palestinians

Hamas straight up bombs any nation that they can get access to, Eqypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't want them, Lebanon doesn't want them

Nobody wants the palestinians to exist

Israel does the dirty work that the middle east wants but can't do themselves

What I’m wondering is does it really have anything to do with Palestine specifically?

Like, for example, if we said to any of those countries you mentioned, “Hey is it cool if we deport a few hundred thousand migrants from Central America there?”

Would they be like “As long as they aren’t from Palestine, hell yea!”

I’m guessing they’d still be like “fuck no we don’t want your shitload of migrants, leave us alone”

I think the problem is no country, especially a less developed country, wants the hassle of taking on thousands and thousands of extra people who will likely need years of support to become self-sufficient

Reiwa
02-04-2025, 11:03 PM
What I’m wondering is does it really have anything to do with Palestine specifically?

Like, for example, if we said to any of those countries you mentioned, “Hey is it cool if we deport a few hundred thousand migrants from Central America there?”

Would they be like “As long as they aren’t from Palestine, hell yea!”

I’m guessing they’d still be like “fuck no we don’t want your shitload of migrants, leave us alone”

I think the problem is no country, especially a less developed country, wants the hassle of taking on thousands and thousands of extra people who will likely need years of support to become self-sufficient

Was already tried and Black September (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_Organization) was the result

Did the Palestinians try to take over Jordan and create Black September?

Yes, the events you're referring to are part of what led to the conflict known as "Black September" in Jordan. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Palestinian militant groups, primarily the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), were operating with significant autonomy in Jordan. This presence escalated tensions with the Jordanian government under King Hussein, leading to a power struggle.

Background: After the Six-Day War in 1967, many Palestinians fled or were displaced from the West Bank (then under Jordanian control) into Jordan, significantly increasing the Palestinian population there. Palestinian groups, especially the PLO, used Jordan as a base for attacks against Israel, which sometimes led to retaliatory strikes by Israel on Jordanian soil.

Conflict: By 1970, the PLO's activities, including setting up parallel institutions and occasionally clashing with Jordanian forces, were seen as a threat to King Hussein's authority. This culminated in September 1970 when fighting broke out between the Jordanian army and Palestinian fighters, leading to what became known as "Black September". The Jordanian military launched an offensive to regain control over the country, leading to heavy casualties on both sides.

Outcome: After weeks of fighting, the conflict was resolved with the Cairo Agreement in 1970, which saw the PLO agreeing to recognize Jordanian sovereignty and to confine their military actions to the borders with Israel. However, tensions remained, and in 1971, the PLO was expelled from Jordan to Lebanon, effectively ending their bid for significant control or influence over Jordanian territory.

This episode is often cited as an example of the complex and sometimes violent interactions between Palestinian nationalist movements and host Arab states, highlighting the challenges of Palestinian political and military autonomy outside of historic Palestine.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 11:07 PM
^
Yes but the question still stands, they might have some extra reservations about Palestine, but I really don’t think it matters much where the people are from

No one wants the hassle of taking on thousands of extra low-skill or no-skill people. And if they say they do, it’s either to exploit them as a slave underclass or to sound virtuous on the internet

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 11:13 PM
Trump says he's given advisers instructions for Iran to be 'obliterated' if it assassinates him (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-he-s-given-advisers-instructions-for-iran-to-be-obliterated-if-it-assassinates-him/ar-AA1ypy55?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2c75daab6654e789f1bbefc2a9c2f89&ei=46)

Factual proof would be required before any such response..that would mean first clearing any and all disgruntled GOP voters who might try again.

Then only taking such an act of revenge if and only if FACTS prove that the act was conducted by Iran..

Factual proof is not something the felon can ever come up with..just blaming and accusing is his specialty.

He said that because 2 hours later he was about to tell the world that he was declaring Gaza property of the trump family.

https://i.imgur.com/E6tey4g.gif

Trexller
02-04-2025, 11:16 PM
^
Yes but the question still stands, they might have some extra reservations about Palestine, but I really don’t think it matters much where the people are from

No one wants the hassle of taking on thousands of extra low-skill or no-skill people. And if they say they do, it’s either to exploit them as a slave underclass or to sound virtuous on the internet

so there are basically no ethnic palestinians left on planet earth, not for like 1000 years. after WW2 a rabble of middle eastern people from all over the place decided they can't live with Israeli statehood so they all went to Israel and gaza and the west bank and all claimed that they were palestinian and Israel took their land that they didn't live on, never developed, never built settlements, never claimed statehood at the UN, and never cared about until Israel became a recognized state

99% of palestinians cannot trace their roots to that region, they just showed up after the jews did

the concept of "palestine" is nothing more than an anti-semetic effort to resist the jewish state

they don't actually exist

shovelquest
02-04-2025, 11:16 PM
^
Yes but the question still stands, they might have some extra reservations about Palestine, but I really don’t think it matters much where the people are from

No one wants the hassle of taking on thousands of extra low-skill or no-skill people. And if they say they do, it’s either to exploit them as a slave underclass or to sound virtuous on the internet

This is so beyond "workers" lol

Guys we just crossed streams into like the warhamer 40k timeline.

Trexller
02-04-2025, 11:25 PM
it speaks volumes about the middle east that Israel can carpet bomb gaza and then the only group that resists is a rabble of ultra-jihadists occupying yemen who are just the right kind of psychos to fire whatever missiles that Iran gives them.

Those Houthi rebels currently firing missiles at cargo ships are the palestinian's only friends in the entire world.

Houthi rebels whos literal slogan on their flag, and website reads: "God is great, death to israel, death to america"

The entire middle east would simply prefer that this group of people in gaza and the west bank just disappear.

The world says America is racist, but ethnicity is EVERYTHING in the middle east. If your heritage isn't from the right tribes, then you aren't anyone.

and the palestinians have little to no recorded ethnic heritage

They say gaza is an open air prison, this is an effect of no other middle eastern nation accepting gazans.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 11:36 PM
This is so beyond "workers" lol

Guys we just crossed streams into like the warhamer 40k timeline.

I’m just wracking my brain trying to understand a scenario where taking in tens to hundreds of thousands of people who probably can’t do much in terms of skilled labor is beneficial. And the reasons why they can’t do much is that most people who were actually high skilled labor could afford to get the hell out of there before the bombs started flying, if not years ago. And even if the person could do like computer programming, it’s like “ok well I’m not up to date on my coding languages because I’ve been getting the living shit bombed out of me for the past year”

So what is the benefit aside from a slave class? Sure SOME low skill workers, a little at a time, might be beneficial. They still would need a cheap place to stay and basic needs met. But in time their avacado store or whatever it was might make enough to fund a tiny little apartment for them

But that’s a little at a time. Not thousands at once. That’s always been the damn problem with migration. It’s never a small stream. It’s always a shitload, and when world events happen it’s a shitload all at once

Like I said, anyone saying they truly want them is either as a slave underclass or they’re lying to sound virtuous

Trexller
02-04-2025, 11:50 PM
You have the right idea, these middle eastern countries won't take gazan refugees because there is zero benefit in doing so.

It would also pollute their societies with outside viewpoints and politics that they don't want

Also, Gazans are known to blow themselves up in public places.

https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/modeledbehavior/files/2016/09/skittles.jpg?format=jpg&height=900&width=1600&fit=bounds

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 12:09 AM
Would be real convenient if a messiah would rise up right about now.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 12:21 AM
Would be real convenient if a messiah would rise up right about now.

Gotta wait for damascus to get leveled

that war isn't anytime soon

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 12:29 AM
Oh in regards to migration btw

These protests where the people are flying the flags of their home countries they are so proud of but absolutely never want to be sent back to and sometimes BURNING the American flag is so stupid

Just from a practical perspective, that is one of the dumbest ways to elicit sympathy

The BEST way? Fly the American flag. Basically do what this German soldier was doing to not get shot in the head. We all know we felt bad for this guy only seconds from death even though he killed medic Wade (in self-defense)

Now….he did totally fuck up by being disingenuous and not only going back into circulation but also killing the man that spared him, Captain Miller. Yea sorry you deserve to die for that, brah

But in terms of eliciting sympathy, burning American flags is NOT the way. This is how it’s done

(To migrants), SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv-5flYewm8

Trexller
02-05-2025, 12:39 AM
Oh in regards to migration btw

These protests where the people are flying the flags of their home countries they are so proud of but absolutely never want to be sent back to and sometimes BURNING the American flag is so stupid

Just from a practical perspective, that is one of the dumbest ways to elicit sympathy

The BEST way? Fly the American flag. Basically do what this German soldier was doing to not get shot in the head. We all know we felt bad for this guy only seconds from death even though he killed medic Wade (in self-defense)

Now….he did totally fuck up by being disingenuous and not only going back into circulation but also killing the man that spared him, Captain Miller. Yea sorry you deserve to die for that, brah

But in terms of eliciting sympathy, burning American flags is NOT the way. This is how it’s done

(To migrants), SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

These people don't care that they are little more than political pawns used to make a statement.

A group of agent provacateurs will recruit a following, usually for cash, then they will use these people to rally others to a certain cause, sometimes it's because a black drug addict died, this time it's because trump wants to curtail illegal immigration, and they don't want it #1 because trump wants it, and #2 they don't want to pick their own strawberries.

Their position is so ridiculously unpopular, that they have to appeal to the only people left who will agree with them, plain ol' anarchists, and the very small anti-american faction that exists in the US

This effort only exists for one reason, which is to get on the news, to have their picture taken, to stir up controversy.

and behind it all, is the Chinese Communist Party sowing it's seeds of discord in their 100 year plan to surpass the USA

where did the hippies get all of their funding to travel and protest the vietnam war? Straight from the KGB

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 12:43 AM
Jib you're making the protest GDT for tomorrow right?

I think some stuff will happen. Probably bad stuff!

Lots of people are crazy right now.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 12:48 AM
These people don't care that they are little more than political pawns used to make a statement.

A group of agent provacateurs will recruit a following, usually for cash, then they will use these people to rally others to a certain cause, sometimes it's because a black drug addict died, this time it's because trump wants to curtail illegal immigration, and they don't want it #1 because trump wants it, and #2 they don't want to pick their own strawberries.

Their position is so ridiculously unpopular, that they have to appeal to the only people left who will agree with them, plain ol' anarchists, and the very small anti-american faction that exists in the US

This effort only exists for one reason, which is to get on the news, to have their picture taken, to stir up controversy.

and behind it all, is the Chinese Communist Party sowing it's seeds of discord in their 100 year plan to surpass the USA

where did the hippies get all of their funding to travel and protest the vietnam war? Straight from the KGB

I agree this must be a thing. Because when I think of myself, I would totally become that begging German guy if that’s what I thought could make people feel sorry enough for me to spare my life or let me stay in their country

Now if they spared my life I’ve thought about it and I would have to refuse going back into circulation. Even if it meant death or prison. I couldn’t live with myself if I was spared by the enemy only to go right back out and kill them a few days later. I have some god damn honor. And I’d say fuck you to any Germans trying to make me all the way to the gallows

Trexller
02-05-2025, 12:50 AM
I think some stuff will happen. Probably bad stuff!

unless it rains

leftist protests when it rains are like 5 people, nobody shows up when it rains

because they believe in their cause so strongly

Trexller
02-05-2025, 12:57 AM
Now if they spared my life I’ve thought about it and I would have to refuse going back into circulation. Even if it meant death or prison. I couldn’t live with myself if I was spared by the enemy only to go right back out and kill them a few days later. I have some god damn honor. And I’d say fuck you to any Germans trying to make me all the way to the gallows

with regard to that clip from saving private ryan, captured germans were swiftly taken to england or canada so they could not be returned to the fight if the germans were able to capture camps in france, they didn't have alot of word about allied prison camps to make a decision on

so the germans were told all manner of things that you always say about the enemy, they will torture you, they will eat you etc.

that soldier was blind folded and told to walk in a direction until he found allied troops to turn himself into, that's a hard no lol

he knew where that squad was and what direction they were going in, they should have either shot him or turned him over to another unit themselves.

it was just a bit of hollywood drama, I guess spielberg felt it necessary to show that this squad was merciful, that squad was army rangers, they knew how to handle it better

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 01:45 AM
with regard to that clip from saving private ryan, captured germans were swiftly taken to england or canada so they could not be returned to the fight if the germans were able to capture camps in france, they didn't have alot of word about allied prison camps to make a decision on

so the germans were told all manner of things that you always say about the enemy, they will torture you, they will eat you etc.

that soldier was blind folded and told to walk in a direction until he found allied troops to turn himself into, that's a hard no lol

he knew where that squad was and what direction they were going in, they should have either shot him or turned him over to another unit themselves.

it was just a bit of hollywood drama, I guess spielberg felt it necessary to show that this squad was merciful, that squad was army rangers, they knew how to handle it better

Maybe, but in his case, acting pathetic might have been he only scenario that didn’t result in him shot in the head, if we coming from the assumption this happens to be a merciful troop. Because they are still super pissed you just killed one of them

And just because someone is acting pathetic doesn’t mean they are pathetic. Since I’m mostly a conglomerate of movie/show references…consider this clip from breaking bad. Was Walter White truly a sniveling coward trying to save his own life? Or did he know it was the only way to get a phone in his hands

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IF4MR-_orDk

Either way, better to try for sympathy if you think it has a chance of working. Rather than protests featuring rejecting the country you are trying to have take you in

Trexller
02-05-2025, 02:15 AM
Either way, better to try for sympathy if you think it has a chance of working. Rather than protests featuring rejecting the country you are trying to have take you in

cancer tripped something in walter white's brain and made him a criminal genius.

you're right that tactic is not gonna elicit a strong sympathy response, it is in fact grown adults throwing a temper tantrum.

but it's one of the oldest warfare tactics in the book to try and sow discord and chaos in another nation, biden's lack of governance embolded our enemies, and the far-left has inadvertently given those enemies an avenue of influence to throw money at anti-american causes, or straight up instigating it themselves

a chinese national was arrested for organizing pro-palestine rallies on college campuses

the director of the american secret foreign intelligence service (CIA) is a public official with a facebook page

the chinese secret foreign intelligence service itself doesn't have an official name in the chinese government

WW3 started in 2020, it's not gonna be a hot shooting war so much as it will be assymetrical against enemies that lurk in the shadows much like the cold war vs the soviets

Lune
02-05-2025, 02:26 AM
I'd be surprised if any country accepts Palestinians considering some pretty severe friction in places that have hosted them in the past, including assassinations and coup attempts. Basically they have tended to act with a single minded focus to make whatever state they are in commit terror attacks against Israel. If the country refuses, they commit terror attacks against that country. I feel like there is plenty of room though in certain parts of the world, like here:

https://i.imgur.com/qVPNLIY.jpeg

and here:

https://i.imgur.com/mSxVQ5c.jpeg

Maybe here with some beaches:

https://i.imgur.com/pr7srud.jpeg

Honestly I am a fan of this no-state solution idea.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 02:30 AM
I'd be surprised if any country accepts Palestinians considering some pretty severe friction in places that have hosted them in the past, including assassinations and coup attempts. Basically they have tended to act with a single minded focus to make whatever state they are in commit terror attacks against Israel. If the country refuses, they commit terror attacks against that country. I feel like there is plenty of room though in certain parts of the world, like here:

Honestly I am a fan of this no-state solution idea.

100% the no-state solution is the best solution that is possible in a rational world

palestinians govern themselves like sub-saharan africans and have lost the goodwill of the entire world

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 02:37 AM
I'd be surprised if any country accepts Palestinians considering some pretty severe friction in places that have hosted them in the past, including assassinations and coup attempts. Basically they have tended to act with a single minded focus to make whatever state they are in commit terror attacks against Israel. If the country refuses, they commit terror attacks against that country. I feel like there is plenty of room though in certain parts of the world, like here:

https://i.imgur.com/qVPNLIY.jpeg

and here:

https://i.imgur.com/mSxVQ5c.jpeg

Maybe here with some beaches:

https://i.imgur.com/pr7srud.jpeg

Honestly I am a fan of this no-state solution idea.

Do you want Fremen? That's how you get Fremen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473693408649674753/Fjo74UD2_400x400.png

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 02:39 AM
6.78 for a dozen jumbo in western WA

6.16 at the same spot now. 7.39 at the union mart.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 02:42 AM
Do you want Fremen? That's how you get Fremen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473693408649674753/Fjo74UD2_400x400.png

:D:D:D:D

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 02:44 AM
I hate the new dune movies they basically stripped away all the sci fi and its like watching a fucking college student documentary about the ME

Trexller
02-05-2025, 02:59 AM
6.16 at the same spot now. 7.39 at the union mart.

$5.19 jumbo dozen 2-4-25

https://giantfoodstores.com/product/egglands-best-extra-large-white-eggs-1-doz/117109

Lune
02-05-2025, 04:14 AM
And wherever the Palestinians go, we shall grant them the right to build casinos. Everybody wins. It's the American way. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears) At this rate Trump's gonna be on the $20 bill

https://i.imgur.com/kVhcWYK.gif

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:25 AM
Can’t trump deport anyone that protests for palenstein now too?

Ekco
02-05-2025, 04:42 AM
I hate the new dune movies they basically stripped away all the sci fi and its like watching a fucking college student documentary about the ME

i was fine with DUNC, but it wasn't memorable like the David Lynch one, Lynch dune had it problems but the Space navigators are 10x cooler looking in the movie than the book.

just needed a editor to clean it up better, we didn't need Thufir milking a cat for his poison antidote, could have cut that and used the extra time for more Sting in a thong scenes

also, the soundtrack is by Toto, Villeneuve can't compete with that

6GPfuyrEK2U

like god damn

Ekco
02-05-2025, 07:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/rFj7yZC.jpeg

>didn't buy a Xiaomi 15 pro from a dodgy .cn site and save 500 bucks when i had the chance.

well.....fuck.

all because drug addicts love fent so much

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 07:32 AM
Can’t trump deport anyone that protests for palenstein now too?

If they call for violence and are here illegally, yes.

You actually are allowed to have repugnant genocidal opinions about the jews in a free country. You aren't allowed to incite others to act on those repugnant genocidal opinions.

Duik
02-05-2025, 07:50 AM
It was never about the eggs.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 08:32 AM
It was never about the eggs.

i love scrambled eggs more than i love other people's freedoms

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 08:57 AM
I hear avocado prices might increase somewhat, temporarily, and all for what? Just so fewer americans die of od's and fewer people are sex trafficked, because economic pressure was placed on neighboring countries to do obvious things that they should have already been doing with their borders??

The horror!

Oh wait actually nm, the avocado prices won't even increase because the tarriff wasn't actually enacted, because the desired behavior was achieved- almost as though they were a negotiating tactic.

Botten
02-05-2025, 10:15 AM
I hear avocado prices might increase somewhat, temporarily, and all for what? Just so fewer americans die of od's and fewer people are sex trafficked, because economic pressure was placed on neighboring countries to do obvious things that they should have already been doing with their borders??

The horror!

Oh wait actually nm, the avocado prices won't even increase because the tarriff wasn't actually enacted, because the desired behavior was achieved- almost as though they were a negotiating tactic.

Abused Visas from other countries make up the bulk of your misinformation complaint.
This is how the Orange voters are uninformed and remain that away.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/page/file/1573256/dl?inline

and

Republicans love their massage parlors (https://floridaphoenix.com/briefs/gop-donor-who-gave-to-desantis-scott-snared-in-south-florida-prostitution-solicitation-case/)

Nothing changes

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 10:22 AM
Abused Visas from other countries make up the bulk of your misinformation complaint.


What? Do elaborate, please.

Abused visas.... did, what?

Let me guess, in botten world drug cartels and international organized crime aren't real, or aren't that bad, or... as usual I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 10:29 AM
You heard it here first: tighter border security has no effect on sex trafficking as per botten's fevered imagination. Also he skipped the whole part about fentanyl od's, but I'm sure tighter border security has no effect on that either, for some reason.

Botten
02-05-2025, 11:24 AM
You heard it here first: tighter border security has no effect on sex trafficking as per botten's fevered imagination. Also he skipped the whole part about fentanyl od's, but I'm sure tighter border security has no effect on that either, for some reason.

You really need to stop falling for the Orange man administration misinformation. We have known about abused Visas provided by the US for years.

LOL, it is how Musk got his citizenship.

“The Washington Post, published Oct. 26, 2024, attempted to uncover the truth about Musk's own pathway to U.S. immigration, concluding that he "worked illegally in the United States as he launched his entrepreneurial career after ditching a graduate studies program in California.”

Thou Musk states he utilized a J1 into a H1B visa during his request for citizenship but there is a lot of grey information surrounding his supposed claim on X

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 12:35 PM
You heard it here first: tighter border security has no effect on sex trafficking as per botten's fevered imagination. Also he skipped the whole part about fentanyl od's, but I'm sure tighter border security has no effect on that either, for some reason.

Most illegal drugs go in through Texas, but you can dig a ditch if it makes you feel better.

https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/147000/147242/riverbordersus_grwl_2020.jpg

Ekco
02-05-2025, 12:42 PM
You really need to stop falling for the Orange man administration misinformation. We have known about abused Visas provided by the US for years.

LOL, it is how Musk got his citizenship.

“The Washington Post, published Oct. 26, 2024, attempted to uncover the truth about Musk's own pathway to U.S. immigration, concluding that he "worked illegally in the United States as he launched his entrepreneurial career after ditching a graduate studies program in California.”

Thou Musk states he utilized a J1 into a H1B visa during his request for citizenship but there is a lot of grey information surrounding his supposed claim on X

Musks employs 121,858 people and is worth half a trillion dollars.

that's different than open borders that push the wage of the working poor down


i fuckin hate the guy but holy shit, nobody gives a shit he was illegal, millions of people do care that their wages aren't going up though.

imagine making this more complicated than it has to, stop making poor people's lives fucking miserable and maybe they'll vote for you again.

hope this helps.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 12:43 PM
Most illegal drugs go in through Texas, but you can dig a ditch if it makes you feel better.

https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/147000/147242/riverbordersus_grwl_2020.jpg

so we shouldn't do anything about precursor chemicals being shipped in? got it. you're only allowed to approach the problem from an "american citizen" bringing fent back in over the border and ignore everything else, people will love this idea and vote for me now.

i'm very smart_and good at politics.meme.png

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 01:17 PM
so we shouldn't do anything about precursor chemicals being shipped in? got it. you're only allowed to approach the problem from an "american citizen" bringing fent back in over the border and ignore everything else, people will love this idea and vote for me now.

i'm very smart_and good at politics.meme.png

Not sure how you got there from mindless wall heckling but I don't know what else fentanyl precursors are used for and don't think I ought to be googling it.

send post

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 01:19 PM
Musks employs 121,858 people and is worth half a trillion dollars.

that's different than open borders that push the wage of the working poor down


i fuckin hate the guy but holy shit, nobody gives a shit he was illegal, millions of people do care that their wages aren't going up though.

imagine making this more complicated than it has to, stop making poor people's lives fucking miserable and maybe they'll vote for you again.

hope this helps.

My very serious suggestion is to send everyones boss to jail instead of targeting the primary lawbreakers.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 01:32 PM
So to recap: Tighter border security will not reduce people dying of fentanyl or being sex trafficked by enough to be worth somewhat more expensive avocados, temporarily.

Is this what you guys are actually saying? I suspect not, but it's the message I am receiving so please do clarify.

There is pro-orange-man propaganda, and there is also anti-orange-man propaganda. I try not to fall for either kind, but that's me.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 01:34 PM
US Gov’t (through the apparently corrupt USAID) gave Politico $8.1 million

Do politico articles have a certain bias? Maybe against the right? Might be a bit of a conflict of interest

But not sure of the time frame, maybe this was also during Trump’s previous term but I doubt it

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 01:42 PM
Hey don't go auditing federal government agencies to find out wtf they are doing with the tax dollars they are entrusted to spend sensibly. Only a fascist would do that!

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 01:51 PM
Wellllll hey now Politico, maybe you shouldn’t comment on economic policy if you can’t pay your employees without the help of secret gov’t slush funds

I mean, you don’t see me arguing economic policy because I suck with money too. Just like I wouldn’t trust a fat personal trainer to talk to me about diet advice

Ekco
02-05-2025, 01:59 PM
don't know what else fentanyl precursors are used for and don't think I ought to be googling it.


imagine not already being on ALL the watch lists,

the tl;dr is that the chemicals are a loophole, DEA already classifies one as List I chemical under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), but 4-piperidone and its Boc derivative are not explicitly regulated, creating a potential loophole.


it's also the same shit they make the bath salts drug and the fake weed vape juice out of. so the whole "ackchyually " this transport method is used more than this other one is some retarded whataboutism political theater

shut it all down.

neither of the two chemicals are used in mission critical shit and alternative chemicals are available and exist, just have to do the supply chain swap and give legit pharma uses companies time to change over and give them a exemption in the meantime.


Here's a Pro/Con summary focused on the implications of banning 4-piperidone/1-Boc-4-piperidone or closing the DEA precursor loophole:

Pros of Banning or Regulating These Chemicals
Disrupt Fentanyl Production

Pro: These chemicals are direct precursors to piperidine, a critical component of fentanyl. Banning them would force illicit labs to use less efficient methods (e.g., extracting piperidine from black pepper), severely limiting large-scale fentanyl synthesis.

Pro: Closing the "Boc loophole" (using 1-Boc-4-piperidone to bypass piperidine restrictions) would make it harder for clandestine labs to hide precursor use.

Reduce Designer Drug Flexibility

Pro: Piperidine derivatives are used in some synthetic cathinones ("bath salts") and cannabinoids. Restrictions could slow production of newer, lesser-known psychoactive drugs.

Align with Global Precursor Controls

Pro: Many countries (e.g., China) already regulate piperidine and its precursors. U.S. action would harmonize policies, reducing cross-border smuggling.

Public Health Benefit

Pro: Fentanyl is the #1 driver of U.S. overdose deaths. Even a partial reduction in supply could save lives.

Cons of Banning or Regulating These Chemicals
Impact on Legitimate Pharmaceutical Manufacturing

Con: These chemicals are used in FDA-approved drugs (e.g., antipsychotics, antivirals). Overregulation could disrupt supply chains, delay medications, or increase costs for patients.

Adaptation by Illicit Labs

Con: Underground chemists may pivot to:

Alternative precursors: e.g., pyridine derivatives or novel piperidine substitutes.

New analogs: Non-piperidine opioids (e.g., nitazenes) that evade existing bans.

Enforcement Challenges

Con: These chemicals have legitimate industrial uses (e.g., agrochemicals, polymers), making it hard to distinguish legal vs. illegal shipments without robust tracking systems.

Economic Harm to Legitimate Industries

Con: Specialty chemical suppliers and researchers could face delays, increased costs, or bureaucratic hurdles to obtain permits.

Key Trade-Offs
Factor Pro-Regulation Argument Anti-Regulation Argument
Fentanyl Supply Likely reduced in short term. Labs adapt; long-term impact uncertain.
Pharmaceutical Access Exemptions for licensed pharma could mitigate risks. Bureaucracy slows innovation and raises drug prices.
Enforcement Feasibility Improved tracking tech (e.g., blockchain) could help. Limited DEA/resources; hard to police global supply chains.
Conclusion
Banning/Regulating Pros: Strong case for reducing fentanyl availability and closing precursor loopholes.

Banning/Regulating Cons: Risks harming medical supply chains and pushing illicit labs to innovate.

Recommendation for Debate:
A tiered system—banning general sales while exempting licensed pharma/chemical companies—could balance public health and industry needs. Pairing this with stricter international precursor controls would maximize impact while minimizing collateral damage.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 02:25 PM
Democrats are like, "wages are going to have to go up if we get rid of illegal immigrants, do you really want that???!?!!!"

Ekco
02-05-2025, 02:43 PM
basically,

neocons lost their party, democrats became the old republicans and "republicans" under Trump is a populist party more like democrats from 50 years ago or something.

shit must be very confusing for people who do what person on tv tells them to do.

but i'm sure dems are just 1 more 5 dollar donation from you away from actually helping people, text STOP if you're a nazi.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 02:53 PM
i'm going to have to shitpost all week to get used to this new keyboard

fucking screenshot button is fucking Fn + T lol

https://i.imgur.com/mqMtxgg.png

and it's not pink enough yet

https://i.imgur.com/CwJ9txc.png

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 02:58 PM
You better have seen this movie...

https://i.imgur.com/1fq89bG.png

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 03:00 PM
Democrats are like, "wages are going to have to go up if we get rid of illegal immigrants, do you really want that???!?!!!"

I'd prefer wage growth remain stagnant.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:01 PM
I'd prefer wage growth remain stagnant.

I prefer supply and demand economy isn't shuttered for communism because it doesn't work while flooding the market with slaves.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 03:03 PM
You better have seen this movie...

https://i.imgur.com/1fq89bG.png

i literally did that to my first computer back in the late 90s, really shouldnt have either that computer is useful or was everything is emulated now in electronic music production

Atari ST 1040 or something i might be off on the numbers

yep, i fucked up was a hand me down and i larped with it

gqc8AqIZj4w

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:04 PM
I did it to my playstation 1 :D

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 03:04 PM
I prefer supply and demand economy isn't shuttered for communism because it doesn't work while flooding the market with slaves.

Wages won't go up unless labor demand exceeds labor supply.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:05 PM
Wages won't go up unless labor demand exceeds labor supply.

I dont know what your talking about with this prose but wages are going to go up when we can't fill the jobs with people that will accept pennies an hour.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 03:09 PM
I did it to my playstation 1 :D

i thought i was obsessed with the movie until i found this channel

cLhtmzEnkZk

i still have all my old issues of 2600 hacker quarterly and their t-shirts also

Botten
02-05-2025, 03:11 PM
This was great how much Canada fooled the Orange man!

https://www.tiktok.com/@tonysquare.s/video/7467636622629063978

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:12 PM
This was great how much Canada fooled the Orange man!

https://www.tiktok.com/@tonysquare.s...36622629063978

Please move there.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 03:16 PM
Doge: hey we're gonna audit you lol

Federal agency: Nooooo!

man I can't wrap my head around why he won

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:36 PM
My favorite thing about shutting down these stupid federal programs is the left is like, 'this is against federal laws!'

ok shut down whatever says those are laws too then.

Botten
02-05-2025, 03:37 PM
Doge: hey we're gonna audit you lol

Federal agency: Nooooo!

man I can't wrap my head around why he won

Does that include?

"Lutheran groups push back on Elon Musk's allegation tax dollars were used for 'illegal' activity"

https://www.christianpost.com/news/lutheran-orgs-respond-to-elon-musks-illegal-activity-claim.html

Good thing this money will go to a slush fund to buy TikTok or gambling in Crypto.

Congratz!

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 03:41 PM
Does that include?

"Lutheran groups push back on Elon Musk's allegation tax dollars were used for 'illegal' activity"

https://www.christianpost.com/news/lutheran-orgs-respond-to-elon-musks-illegal-activity-claim.html

Good thing this money will go to a slush fund to buy TikTok or gambling in Crypto.

Congratz!

You normally hate those people though.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:45 PM
You normally hate those people though.

Remember what we said about this guy hating curing cancer if trump did it?

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:48 PM
Church gets half a billion dollars from the goverment.

"We dont do anything illegal we swear, we swear!!!!"

*same religion that just got busted for fucking kids

What do you do with that money?

Fuck ki... I mean take care of kids.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 03:49 PM
US Gov’t (through the apparently corrupt USAID) gave Politico $8.1 million

Do politico articles have a certain bias? Maybe against the right? Might be a bit of a conflict of interest

But not sure of the time frame, maybe this was also during Trump’s previous term but I doubt it

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24638&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1738776865

Not adbuys? I really like being contrary.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 03:55 PM
https://media.wltx.com/assets/WLTX/images/fbc24db8-2d94-41d8-9db8-52ad1183450e/fbc24db8-2d94-41d8-9db8-52ad1183450e_1140x641.jpg

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 03:59 PM
Lower middle class americans pay for politico, immigration, homeless peoples healthcare and literally everything else.

They get no bailouts but they do get audited the most.

And they are called racist nazi's all day for saying they've had enough of this shit.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:02 PM
Not adbuys? I really like being contrary.

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=3d0bef9ac476c87de4aa8e434068e42b

page takes awhile to load

there are hundreds of six/seven figure payments to Politico for all manner of BS products

like $517,000 for 37 enterprise level subscriptions

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:08 PM
Church gets half a billion dollars from the goverment.

"We dont do anything illegal we swear, we swear!!!!"

*same religion that just got busted for fucking kids

What do you do with that money?

Fuck ki... I mean take care of kids.

I think you jump the gun before reading the article from the 'Christian' site.

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:09 PM
Lower middle class americans pay for politico, immigration, homeless peoples healthcare and literally everything else.

They get no bailouts but they do get audited the most.

And they are called racist nazi's all day for saying they've had enough of this shit.

What's wrong with paying a fair share to better the nation help your potential to make even more money off skilled labor?

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:10 PM
I think you jump the gun before reading the article from the 'Christian' site.

schools still abuse more kids then churches do

regardless of what your chinese handlers tell you

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:11 PM
What's wrong with paying a fair share to better the nation help your potential to make even more money off skilled labor?

If you want to donate by all means, do it, you came here so you should honestly pay like 80% of your income in taxes IMO. That would be fair.

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:12 PM
Lower middle class americans pay for politico, immigration, homeless peoples healthcare and literally everything else.

They get no bailouts but they do get audited the most.

And they are called racist nazi's all day for saying they've had enough of this shit.


Fact Check
Claims That Politico Received USAID Funds Are False (https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-politico-usaid-funding/)

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:12 PM
Stop linking christian faith articles to prove that elon is the anti christ.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:14 PM
Fact Check
Claims That Politico Received USAID Funds Are False (https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-politico-usaid-funding/)

Fact check on your fact check

It's all public information, and it's right here

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=3d0bef9ac476c87de4aa8e434068e42b

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:18 PM
If you want to donate by all means, do it, you came here so you should honestly pay like 80% of your income in taxes IMO. That would be fair.

The rich should pay their fair share.

The institutional cliche to live off only what you made for yourself is not better for the whole of society. It doesn't teach inclusion or encourage progression in a nation.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:20 PM
Fact check on your fact check

It's all public information, and it's right here

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=3d0bef9ac476c87de4aa8e434068e42b

Recipient Details
Recipient
POLITICO, LLC
Recipient Identifier
T8JGE1LE8933 (UEI )
Parent Recipient
SINCLAIR, INC.
Parent Recipient Identifier
GHP9UYLK3B83 (UEI )
Recipient Address
1000 WILSON BLVD 8TH FLOOR
ARLINGTON, VA 22209-3927
UNITED STATES
Congressional District
VA-08
Business Types
Category Business
Not Designated a Small Business
Partnership or Limited Liability Partnership
Special Designations
U.S.-Owned Business

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:20 PM
The rich should pay their fair share..

I said the lower middle class that pays the biggest share you huge fucking idiot And they get nothing in return except a migrant calling them racist.

It's YOU that is not paying your fair share.

Not rich people. Not poor people. You. You are not paying your fair share.

The institutional cliche to live off only what you made for yourself is not better for the whole of society

It is better for society it gave the world freedom. It made america. It provided a place for you to move to and ruin etc etc.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:21 PM
Recipient Details
Recipient
POLITICO, LLC
Recipient Identifier
T8JGE1LE8933 (UEI )
Parent Recipient
SINCLAIR, INC.
Parent Recipient Identifier
GHP9UYLK3B83 (UEI )
Recipient Address
1000 WILSON BLVD 8TH FLOOR
ARLINGTON, VA 22209-3927
UNITED STATES
Congressional District
VA-08
Business Types
Category Business
Not Designated a Small Business
Partnership or Limited Liability Partnership
Special Designations
U.S.-Owned Business

this is dirty as fuck, and it's not just politico it's hundreds of companies

no wonder MAGA wants to rip it all apart, this is a straight up grift of the american taxpayer

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:23 PM
Fact Check
Claims That Politico Received USAID Funds Are False (https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-politico-usaid-funding/)

TheDispatch guy likes being contrary too.

https://jonahgoldberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/jg.jpg

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:23 PM
Fact check on your fact check

It's all public information, and it's right here

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=3d0bef9ac476c87de4aa8e434068e42b

USAspending.gov, an official source for U.S. government expenditure data—and the resource used by Becker in his post—Politico received $8.2 million in total payments from government departments and agencies between fiscal year 2016 and fiscal year 2025. However, only $44,000 of this total came from USAID. (https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-politico-usaid-funding/)

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:24 PM
I said the lower middle class you huge fucking idiot

It's YOU that is not paying your fair share.

Not rich people. Not poor people. You. You are not paying your fair share.

bro english isn't this guys first language so he doesn't understand context, american is not his first culture so he doesn't understand nuance

Botten talks like a pro-CCP chat bot, they don't talk up the CCP, they talk down it's adversaries

suspected chinese national working for hyper-liberal university

Ekco
02-05-2025, 04:26 PM
The rich should pay their fair share.

The institutional cliche to live off only what you made for yourself is not better for the whole of society. It doesn't teach inclusion or encourage progression in a nation.

subsidizing failure is just as bad, the signs at the park saying not to feed the ducks bread because they will become reliant on it and no longer forage for themselves is literal science and it applies to the human animal as well.

our system is so fucked you can buy Monster Energy drinks on SNAP.

the poor need to stop being literally fucking useless just as much as the rich should pay more than they already do in taxes.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QZENGu8.png

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:27 PM
this is dirty as fuck, and it's not just politico it's hundreds of companies

no wonder MAGA wants to rip it all apart, this is a straight up grift of the american taxpayer

Who is paying for this? Lower middle class people.

Just to get college grads to write articles about how shitty the middle class is.

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:27 PM
bro english isn't this guys first language so he doesn't understand context, american is not his first culture so he doesn't understand nuance

Botten talks like a pro-CCP chat bot, they don't talk up the CCP, they talk down it's adversaries

suspected chinese national working for hyper-liberal university

wait am I lower middle class?

Or

a Chinese?

LOL, This could be fun.

Go on.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:27 PM
this is dirty as fuck, and it's not just politico it's hundreds of companies

no wonder MAGA wants to rip it all apart, this is a straight up grift of the american taxpayer

I'm not saying it's not, but Benny Johnson saying so has a poor track record of truthfulness.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:28 PM
wait am I lower middle class?

Or

a Chinese?

LOL, This could be fun.

Go on.

I don't know what the fuck you are but Id guess you're either extremely poor or upper middle or higher.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:29 PM
USAspending.gov, an official source for U.S. government expenditure data—and the resource used by Becker in his post—Politico received $8.2 million in total payments from government departments and agencies between fiscal year 2016 and fiscal year 2025. However, only $44,000 of this total came from USAID.

you fail to pick up on the main point, but that's ok you are not a native english speaker

the United States Agency for International Development (USAID, not food for poor foreign kids) is one of dozens of US governments organizations funneling tax dollars to activist agencies

Politico is one among hundreds

You are not a citizen, the only reason for you to play the games that you do is that you seek to promote anti-american narratives

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:31 PM
the poor need to stop being literally fucking useless just as much as the rich should pay more than they already do in taxes.

so far the very very poor are doing the work and getting deported.

A lot pay pay taxes they can't rely on when they no longer can work.

I think we can all agree the top 1% has gotten too rich.

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:32 PM
...
Politico is one among hundreds
...

But... they really aren't thou.

I have studied a lot of languages and sometimes get confused. But you are correct English isn't my native language.
But I am fascinated by language!

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:32 PM
so far the very very poor are doing the work and getting deported.

A lot pay pay taxes they can't rely on when they no longer can work.

I think we can all agree the top 1% has gotten too rich.

you sound like a chinese national

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:33 PM
so far the very very poor are doing the work and getting deported.

A lot pay pay taxes they can't rely on when they no longer can work.

I think we can all agree the top 1% has gotten too rich.

That the middle class needs a tax cut was the D team rebuttal to the TCJA.

parties flipped

Ekco
02-05-2025, 04:33 PM
so far the very very poor are doing the work and getting deported.

A lot pay pay taxes they can't rely on when they no longer can work.

I think we can all agree the top 1% has gotten too rich.

so wages for the remaining poor will increase do to supply and demand, maybe they can even buy a house and start a family if we deport enough people, fuck...

you know what doesn't solve the problem? an entire political party throwing the working class overboard to do the bidding of rich special interests instead, and in a binary choice, a crazy orange man is more preferred than voting for your domestic abuser political leaders that claim to still love you even though you got two black eyes and a cardboard box to live in.

everything he's doing isn't nearly enough considering what the upper echelon in the dem party actually deserve.

should seize all their gains from the stock market they obviously used insider info to gain, for starters

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:34 PM
But... they really aren't thou.

yeah they are, I just linked the website where you can find out, type any company in the search

look at comcast, or verizon, or whoever else

americans are paying service subscriptions, and then those companies are getting paid in tax dollars

all while they are publicly traded on wall street

the rot and grift and corruption is utterly insane

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:37 PM
what in the hell is $517,000 for enterprise level Politico subscriptions?

you pay six figures to a news agency, and they will show you the real news that they don't show the 10/month subscriber?

this is just so fuckin dirty, we are getting ripped off so hard it's beyond imagination

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:41 PM
so wages for the remaining poor will increase do to supply and demand, maybe they can even buy a house and start a family if we deport enough people, fuck...

you know what doesn't solve the problem? an entire political party throwing the working class overboard to do the bidding of rich special interests instead, and in a binary choice, a crazy orange man is more preferred than voting for your domestic abuser political leaders that claim to still love you even though you got two black eyes and a cardboard box to live in.

everything he's doing isn't nearly enough considering what the upper echelon in the dem party actually deserve.

should seize all their gains from the stock market they obviously used insider info to gain, for starters

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:43 PM
parties flipped

Now we're back to the same democrat party that wanted slavery, also wants low wage immigrant workers.

:eek:

Ekco
02-05-2025, 04:44 PM
the next dem primary is gonna be hilarious btw, you think the neocons got their dick knocked into the dirt, wait until the literal commies take over theirs

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:45 PM
the next dem primary is gonna be hilarious btw, you think the neocons got their dick knocked into the dirt, wait until the literal commies take over theirs

It'll be Newsome MMW.

Or maybe Trump Vs Obama.

I'm hoping we just do away with elections for at least the rest of trumps life though.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:48 PM
Now we're back to the same democrat party that wanted slavery, also wants low wage immigrant workers.

:eek:

I'd much rather purchasing power go up. Go up.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:51 PM
what in the hell is $517,000 for enterprise level Politico subscriptions?

you pay six figures to a news agency, and they will show you the real news that they don't show the 10/month subscriber?

this is just so fuckin dirty, we are getting ripped off so hard it's beyond imagination

POLITICO Pro Plus includes:

Smart policy tools all in one platform, including bill trackers, collaboration tools, directories, calendars, and more

Original reporting across 22 policy coverage areas by 300 professional reporters

Customized, proactive alerts & notifications tailored specifically for you

Detailed policy newsletters (https://www.politicopro.com/plans/)

It could make fiscal sense to contract your data and statistics surveillance to the private sector so as to not have each individual department perform duplicated collection and compiling work and then negotiate with every other department to access it at a cost to the taxpayer. Using private sector sources is usually cheaper than doing it in-house.

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:54 PM
On the other hand, this is actually a huge scandal.

https://i.imgur.com/0IhDZke.png

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 04:55 PM
POLITICO Pro Plus includes:

Smart policy tools all in one platform, including bill trackers, collaboration tools, directories, calendars, and more

Original reporting across 22 policy coverage areas by 300 professional reporters

Customized, proactive alerts & notifications tailored specifically for you

Detailed policy newsletters (https://www.politicopro.com/plans/)

*2 annual passes to the "The Rites of Eleusis" ceremonies. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Eleusis)

Ekco
02-05-2025, 04:56 PM
BREAKING: Representative Mark Pocan has introduced the ELON MUSK act which would ban "special" government employees like Musk from federal contracts. (The bill’s full title is the Eliminate Looting of Our Nation by Mitigating Unethical State Kleptocracy Act)

oh fuck, the left can meme, finally turning this Ship of Theseus failure around maybe.

>scroll down 2 more posts on plebbit and see two dems are enacting articles of impeachment for the third? attempt.

nope. it's still fucked.

edit:
Oil Falls to Lowest Settlement Price of 2025 as Traders Flee
Bloomberg

40 minutes ago

looking forward to the articles explaining how you paying less at the pump is actually a bad thing

Trexller
02-05-2025, 04:57 PM
[URL="https://www.politicopro.com/plans/"]POLITICO Pro Plus includes:

It could make fiscal sense to contract your data and statistics surveillance to the private sector so as to not have each individual department perform duplicated collection and compiling work and then negotiate with every other department to access it at a cost to the taxpayer. Using private sector sources is usually cheaper than doing it in-house.

I've never felt like government bloat was any excuse to contract out

this is the government saying, "we're too stupid to run a lean and effective department, so we're gonna pay someone else to do it"

ok if that's the case, then the american people don't need you in your job, because you suck at it

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Xuv3IEoH1a4AAAAC/youre-fired-donald-trump.gif

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 04:58 PM
*2 annual passes to the "The Rites of Eleusis" ceremonies. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Eleusis)

hehe

Ideologically, Politico's coverage has been described as centrist on American politics and Atlanticist on international politics.

Botten
02-05-2025, 04:58 PM
Speaking of language.

For instance did you know the Maxim of Ptahhotep represent an early form literature; wisdom literature.

Wisdom literature has a collection of proverbs and pieces of advice.

Written during the second half of the reign of the Middle Egyptian Kingdom, there exists scripture from an aging pharaoh given to his successor.

A certain Maxim reads
https://mjn.host.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/ptahhotep/text.pdf

jm.k nk hmt-hrd
rh.n.k hsft r mw hr h;tj.f
nn qb n ntt m ht.f
jm.f swhw r jrt hsft
qb.f m ht hd.f jb.f

The Egyptians warned Too many of their kind were doing what was barred.

And yet today in this modern day we are still struggling to recognize this group fairly.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 04:59 PM
I love how when I was in 7th grade I thought the rest of life would somehow be different

Botten
02-05-2025, 05:01 PM
yeah they are, I just linked the website where you can find out, type any company in the search


I did that search with that filter. I saw the payments that were misconstrued which the fact checking explains.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 05:03 PM
I saw.

You can't even read posts here.

which the fact checking explains.

I would love to hear Mr. figured it out, explain in his own words how exactly its fake news.

Ekco
02-05-2025, 05:09 PM
I did that search with that filter. I saw the payments that were misconstrued which the fact checking explains.

good thing, fact checks vote. and explaining shit totally doesn't mean you're losing the political argument

Dems as a brand are so far gone now it's not even funny. kanye west would have more success selling yeezys in Israel, than dems chances of doubling,tripling down on this cringe shit and winning an election

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 05:12 PM
kanye west would be more successful selling yeezys in Israel

Post of the day.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 05:14 PM
Why do democrats simp for putin?

https://i.imgur.com/SIOz5up.png

Trexller
02-05-2025, 05:56 PM
Why do democrats simp for putin?

contrary to "the narrative" hilary clinton's democrat cabal has been tightly interwoven with russian politics, among other things hilary's state dept sold the russians uranium during the obama administration

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 06:38 PM
How ironic they say Tulsi is a Russian asset, while they parrot Russian propaganda.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 06:49 PM
Oh she's a rush-in-ass alright!!

sorry..

Trexller
02-05-2025, 06:53 PM
How ironic they say Tulsi is a Russian asset, while they parrot Russian propaganda.

yeah it's pretty nutso how many of the things that trump gets accused of, are actually happening in the democrat party

that's why nothing trump gets accused of actually goes to a trial, they would have to show in court how they are actually guilty of the crimes they accuse trump of

8+ years of investigating trump and the best they can come up with is porn star hush money?

give me a break

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 06:56 PM
Why do libs love parroting russian propaganda. :D

https://i.imgur.com/sNpmQmp.png

Botten
02-05-2025, 07:27 PM
good thing, fact checks vote. and explaining shit totally doesn't mean you're losing the political argument

Dems as a brand are so far gone now it's not even funny. kanye west would have more success selling yeezys in Israel, than dems chances of doubling,tripling down on this cringe shit and winning an election

The irony is you are normalizing their extremes.

Alright for a GOP politician to take the oath of the Presidency without placing their hand on the bible.

Alright for a GOP politician to have highschool kids under DOGE with no government experience playing with the US Treasury

Alright to have the GOP place a person parroting violent dictator propaganda as the head of US intelligence.

Alright to have the GOP place a man with white supremacy tattoos, alcoholic and advocates violence/abuse to women to head of the military.

And so much more.

You have more intelligence than the others and you are saying the Dems are the problem.

Ciderpress
02-05-2025, 07:37 PM
Botten = bot ten

Botten
02-05-2025, 07:58 PM
Botten = bot ten

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Ekco
02-05-2025, 08:09 PM
The irony is you are normalizing their extremes.

Alright for a GOP politician to take the oath of the Presidency without placing their hand on the bible.

Alright for a GOP politician to have highschool kids under DOGE with no government experience playing with the US Treasury

Alright to have the GOP place a person parroting violent dictator propaganda as the head of US intelligence.

Alright to have the GOP place a man with white supremacy tattoos, alcoholic and advocates violence/abuse to women to head of the military.

And so much more.

You have more intelligence than the others and you are saying the Dems are the problem.

norms don't matter when one side is losing on purpose either by their convictions or straight up mental illnesses, dems are the problem and until they stop supporting unpopular shit, i want no part of it.


you're talking about people who took 5, 10 dollar donations from people on fixed incomes then fucked them over when lobbyists cut them a cheque


hope orange man sends them all to gitmo, unironically.

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 08:49 PM
botten putin simp confirmed.

Botten
02-05-2025, 09:14 PM
botten: putin simpsons... confirm

The irony...
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Botten
02-05-2025, 09:19 PM
norms don't matter when one side is losing on purpose either by their convictions or straight up mental illnesses, dems are the problem and until they stop supporting unpopular shit, i want no part of it.


you're talking about people who took 5, 10 dollar donations from people on fixed incomes then fucked them over when lobbyists cut them a cheque


hope orange man sends them all to gitmo, unironically.

so you better relate with MAGA insanity :rolleyes:

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 09:22 PM
The irony...

I know you killed hundreds of thousands and then flipped sides.

Elizondo
02-05-2025, 10:23 PM
This thread gonna go on longer than the shaman / enc duo in The Priest Forums

Shaman suck with ENC as a duo partner compared to Paladin / Cleric btw

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 10:35 PM
gonna be a viral outbreak in Africa thanks to the USAID shutdown (https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/01/28/g-s1-45030/pepfar-trump-drugs-stop-work)

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 10:42 PM
gonna be a viral outbreak in Africa thanks to the USAID shutdown (https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/01/28/g-s1-45030/pepfar-trump-drugs-stop-work)

maybe NPR will get him this time!

https://i.imgur.com/okPurWf.png

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 10:48 PM
This thread gonna go on longer than the shaman / enc duo in The Priest Forums

Shaman suck with ENC as a duo partner compared to Paladin / Cleric btw

Yea obv there’s too much overlap in the slows and buffs with shm/enc. I’d say Druid pairs better due to at least offering snare for safer charms

But nothing beats enc/clr. I actually only did this duo one time with this dude from forums who had a max’ed out 60 of almost every class. And we wrecked through Chardok for a while

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 10:53 PM
Trump appointee is no longer an active anti-semite (https://apnews.com/article/rubio-beattie-state-department-3023192c0ac89ff41a15ea853bc49816)

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 11:08 PM
you fail to pick up on the main point, but that's ok you are not a native english speaker

the United States Agency for International Development (USAID, not food for poor foreign kids) is one of dozens of US governments organizations funneling tax dollars to activist agencies

Politico is one among hundreds

You are not a citizen, the only reason for you to play the games that you do is that you seek to promote anti-american narratives

It doesn’t really matter exactly what the money goes towards. It could have been to international right wing propaganda

The real issue is these are bureaucrats, not elected officials, and they have an absolutely terrible track record on transparency, and cooperation

Which is why Marco Rubio put them on blast recently. He said they outright refuse to respond to policy directives and just do their own thing. In what world other than gov’t can a company get away with this? Any private company who’s employees just decided to do whatever they wanted would have been fired long ago

A prime example is when Doge first announced the inquiry, didn’t USAID initially respond with directives to do basically everything short of breaking the law to block it? That’s what the news I read about it said. That already looks shady

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50bXmzcUC8g

Trexller
02-05-2025, 11:11 PM
It doesn’t really matter exactly what the money goes towards. It could have been to international right wing propaganda

The real issue is these are bureaucrats, not elected officials, and they have an absolutely terrible track record on transparency, and cooperation

Which is why Marco Rubio put them on blast recently. He said they outright refuse to respond to policy directives and just do their own thing. In what world other than gov’t can a company get away with this? Any private company who’s employees just decided to do whatever they wanted would have been fired long ago

A prime example is when Doge first announced the inquiry, didn’t USAID initially respond with directives to do basically everything short of breaking the law to block it? That’s what the news I read about it said. That already looks shady

yeah it makes me wonder who the federal govt actually works for

it sure as hell isnt the people

it doesn't seem like they even work for themselves, otherwise at least something would get done whether we like it or not

the entire effort of the US gov't seems to function to prevent anything from actually happening, one way or the other, just maintenance of status quo

but who's status quo is it?

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 11:14 PM
gonna be a viral outbreak in Africa thanks to the USAID shutdown (https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/01/28/g-s1-45030/pepfar-trump-drugs-stop-work)

If we are starting from the assumption that the millions and millions we’ve sent has been mismanaged

And the assumption we can’t enforce what another country’s leaders do with our money we give them

Then the way to get change with that country (or any entity) is to cut them off. It’s just like a relationship. You have a spouse who is toxic in some way, you try pleading, you try plying, you try everything to make them change but you can’t control them. So you say “fine I’m leaving” and then, and only then, SOMETIMES, after a while they say “ok if you come back I really will change”

And then only sometimes they mean it. But it can be a way to get net positive change when everything else fails

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 11:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/gFwaROi.png

https://x.com/CubanOnlyTrump/status/1887315025808724317

https://i.imgur.com/MjUpQen.png

Trexller
02-05-2025, 11:16 PM
If we are starting from the assumption that the millions and millions we’ve sent has been mismanaged

And the assumption we can’t enforce what another country’s leaders do with our money we give them

Then the way to get change with that country (or any entity) is to cut them off. It’s just like a relationship. You have a spouse who is toxic in some way, you try pleading, you try plying, you try everything to make them change but you can’t control them. So you say “fine I’m leaving” and then, and only then, SOMETIMES, after a while they say “ok if you come back I really will change”

And then only sometimes they mean it. But it can be a way to get net positive change when everything else fails

https://www.rachelbamber.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/100.jpg

Trexller
02-05-2025, 11:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MjUpQen.png

This is absurd, and yet not at all surprising

there is nobody on earth more corrupt than a clinton

I shudder to imagine where we would be if she won 2016

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 11:24 PM
no one is above the law

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 11:25 PM
It doesn’t really matter exactly what the money goes towards. It could have been to international right wing propaganda

The real issue is these are bureaucrats, not elected officials, and they have an absolutely terrible track record on transparency, and cooperation

Which is why Marco Rubio put them on blast recently. He said they outright refuse to respond to policy directives and just do their own thing. In what world other than gov’t can a company get away with this? Any private company who’s employees just decided to do whatever they wanted would have been fired long ago

A prime example is when Doge first announced the inquiry, didn’t USAID initially respond with directives to do basically everything short of breaking the law to block it? That’s what the news I read about it said. That already looks shady

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50bXmzcUC8g

I think if congress created the agency and its legal mandates they don't have to listen to Lil Marco.

Trexller
02-05-2025, 11:25 PM
no one is above the law

people like hilary clinton serve as a bulwark between public justice and corrupt elites

we're going to need an army and billions to serve justice

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 11:26 PM
https://www.rachelbamber.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/100.jpg

The problem with it is the counter-tactic is emotional blackmail

That’s what gets the sad parents to take their homeless drug addict adult kid back in the home: “Look at how much I’m suffering mom and dad. Do you really want to watch me die?? I’m in so much pain, please help your son”

Once the bodies start hitting the floor in Africa, that will be their leader’s first tactic. And depending on the devastation, it might be enough on its own to start swaying some in congress on the right

Emotional blackmail is powerful, no one wants to watch people die en mass. Holding firm to boundaries in the face of suffering is one of the hardest decisions to make in life. It’s why Al-anon support groups exist for family members of substance abusers

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 11:28 PM
This is absurd, and yet not at all surprising

there is nobody on earth more corrupt than a clinton

I shudder to imagine where we would be if she won 2016

Even if they're personally pieces of shit the Clinton foundation still does a lot of good stuff around the world.

^a statement with which the United States government agrees.

Elizondo
02-05-2025, 11:31 PM
Yea obv there’s too much overlap in the slows and buffs with shm/enc. I’d say Druid pairs better due to at least offering snare for safer charms

But nothing beats enc/clr. I actually only did this duo one time with this dude from forums who had a max’ed out 60 of almost every class. And we wrecked through Chardok for a while

I agree Druid is better for most situations

Pally > Druid breakin dem big scary rooms though

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 11:37 PM
I think if congress created the agency and its legal mandates they don't have to listen to Lil Marco.

Were they even listening to congress before? Did you hear about how they funded anti-communist propaganda in Cuba with money that was supposed to go to like Afghanistan or something?

Now obviously, being on the right, I should be like “Hell yea, wreck those commies”. And a lot of people on the left take that exact attitude: The end justifies the means

But if the method is unethical, or fraudulent, then no, the end shouldn’t justify the means

shovelquest
02-05-2025, 11:40 PM
lmao @ the full 60 min kamala interview.

"it seems as though, the US has no sway whatsoever over Netanyahu?"

https://i.imgur.com/87Heseh.png

*Trump wins:

"We're going to turn Jerusalem into a Six Flags"

Trexller
02-05-2025, 11:41 PM
The problem with it is the counter-tactic is emotional blackmail

That’s what gets the sad parents to take their homeless drug addict adult kid back in the home: “Look at how much I’m suffering mom and dad. Do you really want to watch me die?? I’m in so much pain, please help your son”

Once the bodies start hitting the floor in Africa, that will be their leader’s first tactic. And depending on the devastation, it might be enough on its own to start swaying some in congress on the right

Emotional blackmail is powerful, no one wants to watch people die en mass. Holding firm to boundaries in the face of suffering is one of the hardest decisions to make in life. It’s why Al-anon support groups exist for family members of substance abusers

every year like 500k africans are killed in various civil wars, millions of women and children are abused, millions of people are starving in unimaginable poverty

but we're all supposed to Make Africa Great Again if they get a virus?

Reiwa
02-05-2025, 11:43 PM
every year like 500k africans are killed in various civil wars, millions of women and children are abused, millions of people are starving in unimaginable poverty

but we're all supposed to Make Africa Great Again if they get a virus?

It's the San Francisco Flu.

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-05-2025, 11:43 PM
every year like 500k africans are killed in various civil wars, millions of women and children are abused, millions of people are starving in unimaginable poverty

but we're all supposed to Make Africa Great Again if they get a virus?

Same attitude with the ever-growing homeless problem in major cities

If money wasn’t fixing it, obviously the solution is more money

Ehhhhhh

Lune
02-05-2025, 11:52 PM
This thread gonna go on longer than the shaman / enc duo in The Priest Forums

Shaman suck with ENC as a duo partner compared to Paladin / Cleric btw

Enchanter toolkit is absolutely broken, the clarity line should have gone to wizards and I will die on this hill

Reiwa
02-06-2025, 01:03 AM
DOGE surrenders to law enforcement; trial to be held (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/doge-treasury-payments-system-access/index.html)

shovelquest
02-06-2025, 01:10 AM
Are the two people who have access any of the like 22 year old miracle squad he put together?

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-06-2025, 01:10 AM
DOGE surrenders to law enforcement; trial to be held (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/doge-treasury-payments-system-access/index.html)

That’s kinda fucking scary

I understand the importance of efficiency but when you are looking at literally everything, you are also looking FOR anything (news-worthy)

In my opinion the left sort of improved on the concept of “Lawfare”, what the hell will they do with something like Doge’s reach if it lands in their hands at some future point?

shovelquest
02-06-2025, 01:16 AM
Elon at doge HQ

https://i.imgur.com/3p3QAm4.gif

Ekco
02-06-2025, 08:20 AM
so you better relate with MAGA insanity :rolleyes:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." - Bill Clinton


since reality is apparently subjective now, we'd have to define a whole bunch of parameters first. but going on what i feel the left's general view of what's going on is, i'd argue the counter that, yes larping as Romans is objectively better than letting college kids murder a billion people over online shitposts they don't agree with.

i don't think either sides extreme projection of the other is accurate but i'm way more afraid of what the left is capable of from a pure hivemind prospective than i am of what living under the worst possible *from your point of view* and actually **likely** to happen from a religious right running things outcome.

and i cannot reiterate this enough, it's not my fault nor my fucking problem that a organization decided betraying 99% of the population was a good idea, and now they wanna cry to me about how they're afraid.

also, if we're larping as rome now, i got dibs on playing Mark Anthony
https://i.imgur.com/yw3iNBr.png
https://i.imgur.com/eN1ORL9.gif

Duik
02-06-2025, 09:48 AM
https://imgur.com/gallery/ky62UhY

Pic number 2 looks like zuck pic 3 looks like bezos.

Find the other two...

Ekco
02-06-2025, 10:56 AM
#4 is the gamestop stock guy forgot his name

edit: deepfuckingvalue
https://i.insider.com/6012f29d6dfbe10018e0085d?width=1200&format=jpeg

Botten
02-06-2025, 11:29 AM
DOGE surrenders to law enforcement; trial to be held (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/doge-treasury-payments-system-access/index.html)

First love your links.

Sadly I see CNN helping to act like a smoke screen and lending future credibility to the lies (sorry misinformation) they are pushing about politico (https://www.yahoo.com/news/claims-politico-received-usaid-funds-195555202.html) or pushing along to government talking heads that we spent money in Gaza for condoms (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-50-million-condoms-gaza-1235250386/).

Both statements are misinformation they are feeding to their base to later come to congress to try to further justify their reverse Robinhood in tax relief for the rich.

Meanwhile the only reason Elon was going after USAID was because they were investigating Elon traitorous actions by turning off Starlight in Ukraine while having monthly calls with Putin. (https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-reportedly-huge-conflict-164447501.html)

I can't see how the orange voters don't understand they are still being manipulating and falling for misinformation.

Botten
02-06-2025, 11:35 AM
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." - Bill Clinton


since reality is apparently subjective now, we'd have to define a whole bunch of parameters first. but going on what i feel the left's general view of what's going on is, i'd argue the counter that, yes larping as Romans is objectively better than letting college kids murder a billion people over online shitposts they don't agree with.

i don't think either sides extreme projection of the other is accurate but i'm way more afraid of what the left is capable of from a pure hivemind prospective than i am of what living under the worst possible *from your point of view* and actually **likely** to happen from a religious right running things outcome.

and i cannot reiterate this enough, it's not my fault nor my fucking problem that a organization decided betraying 99% of the population was a good idea, and now they wanna cry to me about how they're afraid.

also, if we're larping as rome now, i got dibs on playing Mark Anthony
https://i.imgur.com/yw3iNBr.png
https://i.imgur.com/eN1ORL9.gif

ugh Mussolini made that salute popular and they still don't have a statue or more even showing that the Romans practiced that salute or if it was that way.

Plus Elon's upward angled arm, flat hand and neck jerk was definitely the Yahtzee salute.

You are really normalizing the extreme to justify your view?

Ekco
02-06-2025, 12:02 PM
i literally don't even have a "view" other than leave me the fuck alone which neither side has any plan to do

a show on HBO is about as historically accurate as claiming Elon is a an actual nazi. people into that shit practice in front of a mirror enough not to do it incorrectly

arvidez
02-06-2025, 12:08 PM
we don't get to choose how something makes us feel or what we believe. i dont blame you for fearing white people. you might imagine how the black power sign might provoke fear in the alternately-inculcated.

reminds me of the joke using black/white power signs playing roshambo. did i read that here?

Ekco
02-06-2025, 12:28 PM
we don't get to choose how something makes us feel or what we believe.

Acid & E helps.

Candyflipping would solve all the worlds problems.

VAip8jG0ec0

arvidez
02-06-2025, 12:42 PM
i ate mushrooms twice and both times the devil showed up to collect my soul...i hope he didnt get it.

Elizondo
02-06-2025, 12:44 PM
Enchanter toolkit is absolutely broken, the clarity line should have gone to wizards and I will die on this hill

100%

Ekco
02-06-2025, 12:51 PM
100%

nobody cares about this server anymore, even if they still do, they don't care about balancing it

hope this helps.

sorry you don't got

book not up

&

send post.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/033/Screenshot_7.jpg

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-06-2025, 12:55 PM
Sadly I see CNN helping to act like a smoke screen and lending future credibility to the lies (sorry misinformation) they are pushing about politico (https://www.yahoo.com/news/claims-politico-received-usaid-funds-195555202.html)

This seems like a bit of a moot point. It was still funded by different government agencies, and have you taken a gander at the E&E or “Energy and Environment” News part of Politico? (since that’s what it says in your article the US gov’t was funding)

Here’s a sample, do you detect a certain bias?

Basically the argument of “it wasn’t USAID” is splitting hairs to the crux of the problem

It was funded by US gov’t agencies, and the specific departments of Politico cited seem to be churning out left-wing Energy and Environment progressive propaganda

Then the question arises of, even if the other departments of Politico didn’t directly receive subscriptions, did they still benefit in some way from the funding? I’m guessing yea

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-06-2025, 01:05 PM
^
The counter point to this possibly being that any gov’t funding from 2016-2020 was during Trump’s first presidency

NopeNopeNopeNope
02-06-2025, 01:15 PM
I’m big on free speech and hate cancel culture but calling for actual murder or death is just about the only type of speech that isn’t legal, to my knowledge

Shoulda just stuck with calling us Nazis. Can’t imagine this dude keeping his job after this

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 01:30 PM
^^^ Oh whaddaya know it looks like some nerd ass beta retard, couldn't have guessed.

(the hickey guy)

Reiwa
02-06-2025, 01:36 PM
I’m big on free speech and hate cancel culture but calling for actual murder or death is just about the only type of speech that isn’t legal, to my knowledge

Shoulda just stuck with calling us Nazis. Can’t imagine this dude keeping his job after this

Some interesting sources on that claim.

It's just pages and pages of that same guy's picture with different titles.

Move to podcast trash can.

https://lunduke.substack.com/archive?sort=new

Elizondo
02-06-2025, 01:45 PM
nobody cares about this server anymore, even if they still do, they don't care about balancing it

hope this helps.

sorry you don't got

book not up

&

send post.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/033/Screenshot_7.jpg

I love you

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 02:11 PM
I'm playing p99 at this very second and having a great time I dunno what you doomers are talkin about

Ekco
02-06-2025, 02:24 PM
I'm playing p99 at this very second and having a great time I dunno what you doomers are talkin about

i stopped playing the day kunark came out on green, and only played green to do the things i was too late on blue to do like jboots,guise,rubicite, manastone

and i got enough of the made up achievements in my mind done on blue, i'm done done, people think im joking when i say im here for the forum emulator but thats literally it. when the next server launches i wont even make a character on it

even if i was still into playing it, the population sucks now.

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 02:33 PM
Well different strokes I guess, although I'm not really a hardcore raider and there's still a bunch of shit i've never done/seen in terms of end game content, so it's easy for me to log in and still have fun. If you've done everything there is to do a hundred times over I certainly get that

Ekco
02-06-2025, 02:50 PM
Well different strokes I guess, although I'm not really a hardcore raider and there's still a bunch of shit i've never done/seen in terms of end game content, so it's easy for me to log in and still have fun. If you've done everything there is to do a hundred times over I certainly get that

as a wizard main i'd literally login each week to just kite vulak guards, and kill the same dragons over and over again for DKP that i had nothing to spend on, wasn't interested in doing a BIS wizard so after Epic, Azure Robe, Cat Helm and whatever else, the diminishing returns / fun ratio was unbearable, and it's not like you join a high end raiding guild because you actually like the people in it....

bFSvpaWZluY

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 03:04 PM
Lol yeah see I've literally never even been in ToV north. Lots of HoT and some doze kills is about all I've done in that zone. I can almost never devote multiple consecutive hours to raiding so my attendance is pitifully low and it takes me forever to accrue even 200 dkp but that's fine with me, it's a good system

Lune
02-06-2025, 03:17 PM
ugh Mussolini made that salute popular and they still don't have a statue or more even showing that the Romans practiced that salute or if it was that way.

Plus Elon's upward angled arm, flat hand and neck jerk was definitely the Yahtzee salute.

You are really normalizing the extreme to justify your view?

https://i.imgur.com/yUNiQNT.jpeg

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 03:28 PM
The nazi thing is so retarded get a new playbook dudes seriously.

Yes, fascists like trump et al always drape every single surface they encounter in the american flag (aka country that directly opposed germany in ww2) and encourage their citizens to own firearms and expand free speech and literally audit themselves to root out wasteful spending practices in their own agencies. Yup, classic nazi stuff lol

Trexller
02-06-2025, 03:37 PM
ugh Mussolini made that salute popular and they still don't have a statue or more even showing that the Romans practiced that salute or if it was that way.

Plus Elon's upward angled arm, flat hand and neck jerk was definitely the Yahtzee salute.

You are really normalizing the extreme to justify your view?

https://i.imgur.com/ThtJRaG.jpeg

Reiwa
02-06-2025, 03:37 PM
The nazi thing is so retarded get a new playbook dudes seriously.

Yes, fascists like trump et al always drape every single surface they encounter in the american flag (aka country that directly opposed germany in ww2) and encourage their citizens to own firearms and expand free speech and literally audit themselves to root out wasteful spending practices in their own agencies. Yup, classic nazi stuff lol

It's entirely his own fault though. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-nationalist-926745)

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 03:40 PM
It's entirely his own fault though. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-nationalist-926745)

Ah politico, I wonder if this article will contain feigned objectivity while steering the reader toward thinking about "white supremac-- annnnnd yup.

Also being a nationalist is fine, because thinking your country is good and prioritizing it's interests is what countries are supposed to do, and is what every other country already does do, except all those pussy euro countries who hate themselves

Botten
02-06-2025, 03:44 PM
The nazi thing is so retarded get a new playbook dudes seriously.

Yes, fascists like trump et al always drape every single surface they encounter in the american flag (aka country that directly opposed germany in ww2) and encourage their citizens to own firearms and expand free speech and literally audit themselves to root out wasteful spending practices in their own agencies. Yup, classic nazi stuff lol

1. Elon Musk's call for Germany to 'move beyond' Yahtzee guilt is dangerous, Holocaust memorial chair says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/elon-musks-call-germany-move-nazi-guilt-dangerous-holocaust-memorial-c-rcna189316)

2. How Elon Musk is helping Germany's far-right AfD party go mainstream (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-germany-afd-support-2025-1)

"Of course, that gesture is actually illegal in Germany," he said. "It's not going to happen, but in theory, he could be persecuted for that because it's seen as a symbol of the Yahtzee rule, and those symbols are outlawed in Germany."

"He's pushing these ideas. He's bringing back all those extremists to Twitter," Arzheimer added. "I think many people were not surprised in Germany or, in the European context, of him acting like that at the inauguration party."

3. Elon Musk turns on Nigel Farage, calls on him to step down as U.K. party leader saying is not extreme enough (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-turns-nigel-farage-calls-step-uk-party-leader-rcna186341)

4. Elon Musk agrees with antisemitic X post that claims Jews ‘push hatred’ (https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/media/elon-musk-antisemitism-white-people/index.html)

5. Verified pro-Nazi X accounts flourish under Elon Musk (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020)

Reiwa
02-06-2025, 03:46 PM
Ah politico, I wonder if this article will contain feigned objectivity while steering the reader toward thinking about "white supremac-- annnnnd yup.

Also being a nationalist is fine, because thinking your country is good and prioritizing it's interests is what countries are supposed to do, and is what every other country already does do, except all those pussy euro countries who hate themselves

The way you and he mean it is probably fine, but it's not what nationalism means.

The 3rd concert is still playing.

Botten
02-06-2025, 03:49 PM
<Trexller parrots fake news.jpg

Fact Check: Did Barack Obama, Kamala Harris Make (https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-kamala-harris-nazi-salutes-elon-musk-2019092) 'Yahtzee' Salutes?

You are purposing parroting fake news.

This only hurts your orange man good statements further.

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 03:53 PM
No, guilt by association is a bad thing, guys. You're supposed to like, not do that.

The charge of fascism\nazism is a lazy canard to dredge up generic bad imagery in the mind of the reader who is unlucky enough to be reading whatever dumb worthless thing is deploying it.

Keep trying if you want I guess, but nobody buys that shit anymore except the most ardent insane leftists.

Trexller
02-06-2025, 03:57 PM
Leftists have a ridiculous humiliation fetish

our nazi salute isn't a nazi salute it's only a nazi salute when we want it to be a nazi salute because we don't know how to play politics in 2025 im not a nazi you're a nazi also free palestine down with israel

https://i.imgur.com/ThtJRaG.jpg

Botten
02-06-2025, 03:59 PM
No, guilt by association is a bad thing, guys. You're supposed to like, not do that.

The charge of fascism\nazism is a lazy canard to dredge up generic bad imagery in the mind of the reader who is unlucky enough to be reading whatever dumb worthless thing is deploying it.

Keep trying if you want I guess, but nobody buys that shit anymore except the most ardent insane leftists.

You certainly have normalized 'Yahtzee' events like Elon.
I can see why you relate.

Elon Musk's call for Germany to 'move beyond' *Yahtzee* guilt is dangerous, Holocaust memorial chair says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/elon-musks-call-germany-move-nazi-guilt-dangerous-holocaust-memorial-c-rcna189316)

Trexller certainly has normalized the lies ;)

Trexller
02-06-2025, 04:01 PM
You certainly have normalized 'Yahtzee' events like Elon.
I can see why you relate.

Elon Musk's call for Germany to 'move beyond' *Yahtzee* guilt is dangerous, Holocaust memorial chair says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/elon-musks-call-germany-move-nazi-guilt-dangerous-holocaust-memorial-c-rcna189316)

tell Xi Jinping I said:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-16-2015/PJ-6A0.gif

Duik
02-06-2025, 04:07 PM
Take a look at Bottens Avatar of Health.

Looks a bit, salutish.

Ciderpress
02-06-2025, 04:08 PM
You certainly have normalized 'Yahtzee' events like Elon.
I can see why you relate.

Elon Musk's call for Germany to 'move beyond' *Yahtzee* guilt is dangerous, Holocaust memorial chair says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/elon-musks-call-germany-move-nazi-guilt-dangerous-holocaust-memorial-c-rcna189316)

Trexller certainly has normalized the lies ;)

Lol and he's completely correct. Children shouldn't feel guilty for the sins of their parents, basic morality 101 stuff. Yup, checks out.

Apprently nbcnews thinks children *should* be guilty for the sins of their parents, or something? Cause that's pretty deranged.

Botten
02-06-2025, 04:14 PM
Lol and he's completely correct. Children shouldn't feel guilty for the sins of their parents, basic morality 101 stuff. Yup, checks out.

Apprently nbcnews thinks children *should* be guilty for the sins of their parents, or something? Cause that's pretty deranged.

like I said normalizing. ;)

Botten
02-06-2025, 04:15 PM
Take a look at Bottens Avatar of Health.

Looks a bit, salutish.

Agreed, I need another picture of the Avatar of Health

Trexller
02-06-2025, 04:16 PM
Lol and he's completely correct. Children shouldn't feel guilty for the sins of their parents, basic morality 101 stuff. Yup, checks out.

Apprently nbcnews thinks children *should* be guilty for the sins of their parents, or something? Cause that's pretty deranged.

making the children suffer for the sins of their parents is the exact mistake the western world made in dealing with WW1 germany that destroyed their economy and enabled the rise of the nazi party in post-WW1 germany

but if germans don't have to atone for the sins of their fathers then that means americans are off the hook too and that can't be allowed because feeling bad about things that happened over 100 years ago is 95% of the entire democrat party platform

Botten
02-06-2025, 04:31 PM
making the children suffer for the sins of their parents is the exact mistake the western world made in dealing with WW1 germany that destroyed their economy and enabled the rise of the nazi party in post-WW1 germany

but if germans don't have to atone for the sins of their fathers then that means americans are off the hook too and that can't be allowed because feeling bad about things that happened over 100 years ago is 95% of the entire democrat party platform

Well good news! After Trump enacts Trail of Tears 2.0 in Gaza with the Palestine people we can get the renewed feeling.

History is fun to forget and forgive. Right!

shovelquest
02-06-2025, 04:35 PM
like I said normalizing. ;)

The only one normalizing nazi's is you.

You've taught a whole generation of american kids that being one is cool because you call literally anyone you don't like a nazi, and you are the least cool person in the universe.

Not to mention, the left's entire stance on Israel is exactly the same as Europa - The Last Battle's.

Duik
02-06-2025, 04:40 PM
We dont need to pay for the sins of the fathers.
But we do need to learn from them.

shovelquest
02-06-2025, 04:41 PM
We dont need to pay for the sins of the fathers.
But we do need to learn from them.

Assigning guilt from others onto children is literally not learning that lesson.

shovelquest
02-06-2025, 04:42 PM
The irony that a bunch of christcuck athiests need guilt to live their athiest lives is hilarious too.

Western christcuck kids all brainwashed by christ and now think they are woke and above it all but DESPERATLY cling to original sin

Trexller
02-06-2025, 05:08 PM
History is fun to forget and forgive. Right!

Forgive, but not forget

you have alot to learn about western culture

Ekco
02-06-2025, 05:43 PM
The irony that a bunch of christcuck athiests need guilt to live their athiest lives is hilarious too.

Western christcuck kids all brainwashed by christ and now think they are woke and above it all but DESPERATLY cling to original sin

i actually think Botten is a fed assigned to p99/off topic because shovel keeps triggering PRISM with channer lingo.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/687/662/4af.jpg