Chira numbuh wan!

[Duik]

The Mental Gymnastics performed here is of award winning quality.

Congratulations everyone.

[Ekco]

great, more participation trophies.

[Botten]

Forgive, but not forget

you have alot to learn about western culture

You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism (https://www.404media.co/you-cant-post-your-way-out-of-fascism/)

Whether it’s gaslighting everyone who saw Elon Musk give two *Yatzee* salutes during the inauguration or blaming the Los Angeles wildfires on the racist dog whistle of “DEI,” lies and absurdities now regularly flood our senses, having long outpaced the media’s capacity to filter them.

Like you, Orange voters normalize this.

[Trexller]

You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism (https://www.404media.co/you-cant-post-your-way-out-of-fascism/)



Like you, Orange voters normalize this.

https://wehco.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/cocagne/img/photos/2018/11/30/190482746_190482746-a05db6921dea4456a087d1cb447039ae304066832_t800.jpg ?90232451fbcadccc64a17de7521d859a8f88077d

[Botten]

BLM peaceful rally.jpg

I raise you one charlottesville Trump Rally filled with 'very fine people.'

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/white-nationalist-rally-charlottesville-violence-5.jpg

[Reiwa]

For example, Robert Mugabe was a nationalist but of the ML variety.

Nationalism bad.

[Trexller]

I raise you one charlottesville Trump Rally filled with 'very fine people.'

you've been duped and lied to

The full version of the "very fine people hoax"

JmaZR8E12bs

[Ciderpress]

i actually think Botten is a fed assigned to p99/off topic because shovel keeps triggering PRISM with channer lingo.

I definitely don't think he's posting earnestly, but I reply to him as if he is because it's kinda fun. Nobody's getting hurt bring on more botten mania

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/gMwgE14.png

[Elizondo]

Orange Man literally reducing the size of Government and Bug Brained Degen losers with no intelligence whatsoever (Hint: Everything they post about themselves on this forum is a LIE) actually believe they are "Fascist"

It's so comical and embarrassing

Stop feeding these losers. Let them suffer for 4 long years.

[Trexller]

I definitely don't think he's posting earnestly

he does read like a cartoony caricature of a far-leftist

[Ciderpress]

I like how the acronym USAID makes you think "humanitarian aid" or something that's kind of generically good, but it's actually the Agency of International Development which is so hilariously vague that like of course it's probably just laundering money.

I'll reiterate a previous post of mine: it is literally a mafia tactic to do your dirty work under the guise of a seemingly benevolent endeavor.

[Trexller]

Everything they post about themselves on this forum is a LIE) actually believe they are "Fascist"

ive always found it ridiculous that they don't understand the meaning of the term fascist

it's not a left or right connotation, just means do as we say or else

nazis were the leftist party before they went fascist

russia is fascist in it's state controlled crony capitalism

china is fascist with a government valve on capitalism, they call it communism with chinese characteristics

[Reiwa]

I like how the acronym USAID makes you think "humanitarian aid" or something that's kind of generically good, but it's actually the Agency of International Development which is so hilariously vague that like of course it's probably just laundering money.

I'll reiterate a previous post of mine: it is literally a mafia tactic to do your dirty work under the guise of a seemingly benevolent endeavor.

Position on the Marshall Plan?

[Ciderpress]

Position on the Marshall Plan?

A good thing, because world war 2 was actually a real war. I'm not sure the marshall plan supplied condoms to trans whatever in poland, but maybe it did!

[Trexller]

Position on the Marshall Plan?

i figure anytime a government hands out money for a project, there is someone skimming it off every step of the way

[Elizondo]

I like how the acronym USAID makes you think "humanitarian aid" or something that's kind of generically good, but it's actually the Agency of International Development which is so hilariously vague that like of course it's probably just laundering money.

I'll reiterate a previous post of mine: it is literally a mafia tactic to do your dirty work under the guise of a seemingly benevolent endeavor.

Orange Man exposing outright corruption in the USAID and getting rid of this and deranged loser Democrats are giving weepy histrionic press conferences on Capital Hill screaming "YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE" because shit is finally being audited and made transparent

Government being reduced and we're told it's "Fascism". Lol fk uff gaslighters

I can't believe Democrats fell for this trap

STOP underestimating Trump!

[Reiwa]

I guess the part I don't understand is why Libs have to be more responsible with Trump's words than Trump does.

send post

[Botten]

Orange Man exposing outright corruption in the USAID and getting rid of this and deranged loser Democrats are giving weepy histrionic press conferences on Capital Hill screaming "YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE" because shit is finally being audited and made transparent

Government being reduced and we're told it's "Fascism". Lol fk uff gaslighters

I can't believe Democrats fell for this trap

STOP underestimating Trump!

So far Politico thing and Gaza Condoms thing was fact checked to be a lie.

Elon apparently went after the USAID for investigating his treasonous acts in Ukraine and he didn’t like it.

Elon and the orange man will continue to use this as a means to turnout fake news and misinformation.

And I am all for trimming the fat as long as we aren’t just giving it in return as tax relief to the rich.

Oh and I find it ironic your insult makes fun of your soon to be MAGA Secretary of Health (who actually has a dead bug in his brain).

LOL the irony.

[Trexller]

elizondo and botten are the same person, this is some kind of performance

[Ekco]

elizondo and botten are the same person, this is some kind of performance

fuck me, his first post was in my Trump thread in 2023.

i remember seeing him in EC tunnel all the time though, he's a druid iirc

edit: wait wtf, if you click post history and go to last page its that Trump thread but he's made his own political threads in off topic going back to 2021

edit: Stalker Edition:

https://i.imgur.com/XYKHfXc.png

imagine having to argue with Botten about politics in real life.

[Reiwa]

And I am all for trimming the fat as long as we aren’t just giving it in return as tax relief to the rich.

TCJA doubled the standard deduction. 83-89% of filers take the standard deduction.

And then the 11-17% who itemize lost their largest deduction through the imposition of the SALT cap at 10k.

Therefore it raised taxes ON the rich in exchange for lowering the corporate rate and providing tax relief to the bottom 83-89%.

send post

[Elizondo]

elizondo and botten are the same person, this is some kind of performance

Oh shut up

Some of you people posting here are absolutely tarded

[Botten]

TCJA doubled the standard deduction. 83-89% of filers take the standard deduction.

And then the 11-17% who itemize lost their largest deduction through the imposition of the SALT cap at 10k.

Therefore it raised taxes ON the rich in exchange for lowering the corporate rate and providing tax relief to the bottom 83-89%.

send post

ok I sent a message.

[Botten]

You all follow fall for bug brian's liberal agenda!

The Orange man is literally saving tax payers money and the libtards hate it.

[Ekco]

Ex-Google engineer faces new US charges he stole AI secrets for Chinese companies
By Jonathan Stempel
February 5, 20251:47 PM CSTUpdated a day ago
https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-google-engineer-faces-new-us-charges-he-stole-ai-secrets-chinese-companies-2025-02-05/

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4E12AQF6Q3WnMOn3sg/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1710170297629?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=2npHWsLYSze8LZ5lqXb63xY3EQ-iqvx_mZXA9LDXcGY

[Ciderpress]

I don't think people understand espionage in the modern day, because you can talk to dudes in australia or whatever instantly. It's way easier (more of a threat) than it was and the purveyors count on that fact

[Botten]

I don't think people understand espionage in the modern day, because you can talk to dudes in australia or whatever instantly. It's way easier (more of a threat) than it was and the purveyors count on that fact

Meh boring. Going to pull a Shovelquest

The double-slit experiment shows that electrons and photons are like particles and waves. When not watched, they create an interference pattern to a backdrop, showing they travel as waves. But when watched, they behave like particles, smashing into the backdrop at particular locations.

This shows a focus on the role of the watcher. Watching the experiment seems to “collapse” the wave, an allows you to find the particle’s location. This speculates that reality might not be fully determined until its player focuses, similar to how a video game only renders parts of the world that the player is currently interacting with.

You are all NPCs!

[shovelquest]

I don't think people understand espionage in the modern day, because you can talk to dudes in australia or whatever instantly. It's way easier (more of a threat) than it was and the purveyors count on that fact

H3H3 finally realizes his "friend" and every progscum's (ecko is that one of the phrases?) favorite streamer is a dangerous anti American communist agitator.

ZSUDHx-1_ww

[Trexller]

Ex-Google engineer faces new US charges he stole AI secrets for Chinese companies
By Jonathan Stempel
February 5, 20251:47 PM CSTUpdated a day ago
https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-google-engineer-faces-new-us-charges-he-stole-ai-secrets-chinese-companies-2025-02-05/

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4E12AQF6Q3WnMOn3sg/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1710170297629?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=2npHWsLYSze8LZ5lqXb63xY3EQ-iqvx_mZXA9LDXcGY

chinese guy at google was a chinese spy

who could have possibly seen that coming

[Botten]

H3H3 finally realizes his "friend" and every progscum's (ecko is that one of the phrases?) favorite streamer is a dangerous anti American communist agitator.

ZSUDHx-1_ww

Sadly Hasan is exhibiting Tourettes (this can be seen at timestamp 4:19) and Ticks can surface in which multiple personality may emerge.

NopeNopeNope, I invite you to watch at that time stamp.

but unfortunately what is being watched here is a person that may need psychological help (hardly a political side issue)

People who have Tourettes don't want to have Tourettes. It can be genetic but often it comes from abuse (sometime abuse at a young age). :(

[shovelquest]

hiyy1L2A9aQ

[shovelquest]

lol this timeline is nuts.

https://i.imgur.com/qIy6wlm.png

[Reiwa]

H3H3 finally realizes his "friend" and every progscum's (ecko is that one of the phrases?) favorite streamer is a dangerous anti American communist agitator.

ZSUDHx-1_ww

What if they both got hit by a bus?

Would that be better than their demands to look at their drama?

[Botten]

lol this timeline is nuts.

[img]The dangerous child mind of elon.jpg

I don't know just seems like the other years under the orange man's rule.

A lack of normalcy.

So let the circus of clowns continue their show to embarrass and remove trust in America on the foreign stage.

TKP7jXM-wi0

[Trexller]

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/958499326/photo/berlin-germany-a-woman-holds-up-a-sign-that-reads-free-gaza-during-a-small-demostration-for.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=AM2vl0dk5RkVThBYTNX4PuNYf1NVEOrmmRD4AGFbVcE=
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/02/03/National-Politics/Images/Botsford170203Trump11421.JPG

[Duik]

According to research, there has been an uptick in Tourettes.
Or maybe its just morons randomly busting out rubbish with no cares for whether anyone is actually listening.

Just like this!

[shovelquest]

A lack of normalcy.



Your problem is you can't even agree without arguing.

[Reiwa]

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/958499326/photo/berlin-germany-a-woman-holds-up-a-sign-that-reads-free-gaza-during-a-small-demostration-for.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=AM2vl0dk5RkVThBYTNX4PuNYf1NVEOrmmRD4AGFbVcE=
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/02/03/National-Politics/Images/Botsford170203Trump11421.JPG

Trump the neocon has liberated Gaza from its autocratic government. 🫡🇺🇸

[shovelquest]

Trump the neocon has liberated Gaza from its autocratic government. 🫡

IRAN's next!

God damn a free iran would be amazing.

[Trexller]

Trump the neocon has liberated Gaza from its autocratic government. 🫡🇺🇸

or did he think gaza was just, free

LeH6Y1YHQDQ

[shovelquest]

🤣

[shovelquest]

This is so insane.

Its got me wondering why does it say press with both hands?

Did they originally plan on making that the trigger, so it would blow off both the hands of the users?

Putting that on this weird trophy is so sadistic lmao

"haha look how it tells them to use both their hands lol!"

https://i.imgur.com/YmoT29J.png

[Ekco]

yeah, that's a bit odd.

[Ekco]

fake tech, fake people, fake country.

crvt4BOnqRw


"Everybody is a phony," - Holden Caulfield

[Trexller]

This is so insane.

Its got me wondering why does it say press with both hands?

Did they originally plan on making that the trigger, so it would blow off both the hands of the users?

Putting that on this weird trophy is so sadistic lmao

"haha look how it tells them to use both their hands lol!"

https://i.imgur.com/YmoT29J.png

that's pretty awesome, a cold blooded gesture that has to have a message behind it maybe like, we can get to anyone, anywhere

that pager/radio attack is like the biggest feat of intelligence in history, its alot bigger than it got attention for, it might be the most complex operation ever, they planned it for over 10+ years

one day the hezbollah pagers explode all at the same time, then the next day their walkie talkie radios

just holy hell mossad is the best in the world

[shovelquest]

fake tech, fake people, fake country.

crvt4BOnqRw


"Everybody is a phony," - Holden Caulfield

damn thats disgusting where do they buy that stuff?

[Ekco]

damn thats disgusting where do they buy that stuff?

Alibaba, Temu or just amazon.cn

[shovelquest]

Alibaba, Temu or just amazon.cn

im gonna get so ripped and BBL

[Ekco]

that pager/radio attack is like the biggest feat of intelligence in history, its alot bigger than it got attention for, it might be the most complex operation ever, they planned it for over 10+ years


Yeah, and I forget which one of the military/spy/tech podcasts I listen to, but they did an emergency episode right after it happened and theorized that the bomb part was only part of the operation. They thought these things were most likely doing basic data collection by pinging devices around them and phoning home somehow, and that they only pushed the little red button after a paranoid, tech-savvy terrorist started taking one apart and looking inside.

If I recall correctly, they even told their members to ditch the devices prior to them exploding, which makes me wonder if they actually figured it out due to something suspicious, or if they were tipped off by a foreign intelligence agency hostile to the Five Eyes plus Israel.

[Ekco]

Yeah, and I forget which one of the military/spy/tech podcasts I listen to, but they did an emergency episode right after it happened and theorized that the bomb part was only part of the operation. They thought these things were most likely doing basic data collection by pinging devices around them and phoning home somehow, and that they only pushed the little red button after a paranoid, tech-savvy terrorist started taking one apart and looking inside.

If I recall correctly, they even told their members to ditch the devices prior to them exploding, which makes me wonder if they actually figured it out due to something suspicious, or if they were tipped off by a foreign intelligence agency hostile to the Five Eyes plus Israel.

i might as well say more trigger words, maybe we'll get a new friend to talk to in /off topic

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[shovelquest]

Mossad is so Hollywood.

There’s that awesome movie about when they built the vacation hotel just to fly people out of Ethiopia? So sick.

How about that spy they sent to iran that was there for so long he became like third in command of their government?

[Ekco]

Mossad is so Hollywood.


vg6gLf1TzAc

Mossad is so dope, they play for keeps. ive only seen this scene, i still gotta watch this show but it's in fucking french

[shovelquest]

vg6gLf1TzAc

Mossad is so dope, they play for keeps. ive only seen this scene, i still gotta watch this show but it's in fucking french

I really hope the liberal progressives and hard core neo nazi's are right, and Israel is going to rule the world. They would rule it so hard.

[Ekco]

they play the game knowing bad shit can happen because it has to them, where our society projects our own morals unto others and assumes everyone shares them like the naive retarded children we are.

[shovelquest]

they play the game knowing bad shit can happen because it has to them, where our society projects our own morals unto others and assumes everyone shares them like the naive retarded children we are.

No jesus no guilt!

:o

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Sadly Hasan is exhibiting Tourettes (this can be seen at timestamp 4:19) and Ticks can surface in which multiple personality may emerge.

NopeNopeNope, I invite you to watch at that time stamp.

but unfortunately what is being watched here is a person that may need psychological help (hardly a political side issue)

People who have Tourettes don't want to have Tourettes. It can be genetic but often it comes from abuse (sometime abuse at a young age). :(

I actually don’t know much about Tourettes due to so rarely encountering it at work

I skimmed around that timestamp but didn’t see anything from Hasan that stood out. Ethan, on the other hand, was doing his usual unconscious eyebrow wiggling which is normal for him and some others. I had a Vietnamese co-worker a long time ago when I was working retail who would wiggle his eyebrows as you talked to him but not as he talked. We just chalked it up to him processing the information in a somewhat unique way

I have only skimmed the recent drama between Hasan and H3 but my takeaways are:

- Ethan would crush Hasan in any sort of debate or back and forth. And that’s not really propping up Ethan. Hasan is just THAT bad at debates and back and forth arguments. He is a gym bro like me with a gym bro’s knowledge of global politics other than maybe a bit extra insider knowledge on Islamic extremism that he gleans from his terrorist contacts

- I will prop Ethan up for standing on his principles. That’s all I ever want to see from any leftist (or right-wing for that matter). You can be as hardcore as you want, but be consistent, stand on your principles, and the only way you demonstrate that, to me, is to have the courage to chastise your own party when you see them not following your principles. At least for the most important ones

[shovelquest]

Hassan should be broadcasting from elsewhere.

He is my golden goose deportation. The white whale.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/3SlRys3.png

God Emperor and JD *I'm not gay, i swear* Vance better not be mean to my favorite country

prutty please, i wanna buy a EV prelude this year

https://theevreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/01HondaPreludeConcept.jpg

[Ekco]

I actually don’t know much about Tourettes due to so rarely encountering it at work


how busy are you now after the election? are people losing their minds, should i be worried or just more of the same generally.

i'm only on bluesky and people there are literally calling for war lol

[shovelquest]

i'm only on bluesky and people there are literally calling for war lol

lmao twitter is basically 4chan in the trending section now there's like no libs or lib trending posts anymore

:D:D:D

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/M6yZ8RI.png

https://i.imgur.com/0ofmtWl.png

[Ekco]

lmao twitter is basically 4chan in the trending section now there's like no libs or lib trending posts anymore

:D:D:D

yeah, and i'd rather just go to 4chan for breaking news / schizo rants

the bluesky algo actually works, if you down vote shit you stop seeing it on your feed, i felt like x was straight up trolling me with what it was pushing on my feed.

i'm there because its basically replacing the small facebook community groups and trends was only recently added lol

https://i.imgur.com/zO3ri1E.png

[Ekco]

Trump says Nippon Steel is dropping its US Steel bid to make an investment instead

February 07, 2025

President Donald Trump suggested that Nippon Steel would no longer buy U.S. Steel as planned, and would instead invest in the company. The details remain unclear. Follow AP for live updates.

Dems just can't catch a break, so much winning lol

[shovelquest]

Im ready for neural-train

https://i.imgur.com/TLP73d5.gif

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/M6yZ8RI.png

https://i.imgur.com/0ofmtWl.png

To cover that distance in just 3 hours, you would need to travel at an average speed of around 816.67 miles per hour

[shovelquest]

To cover that distance in just 3 hours, you would need to travel at an average speed of around 816.67 miles per hour

Sweet based elon trains go speed of light.

But seriously, it's pathetic we do not have a domestic rail system that is on par with other developed nations.

Taking planes to get to the next state over is fucking re. tard. ed.

[Reiwa]

Sweet based elon trains go speed of light.

But seriously, it's pathetic we do not have a domestic rail system that is on par with other developed nations.

Taking planes to get to the next state over is fucking re. tard. ed.

Is there a chance the track could bend?

[shovelquest]

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Not on your life my EQ friend!

[Ekco]

we're about to enter a age where nobody even leaves their house and everything in conducted on the actual metaverse from the book not zuckcucks shit and he wants to build high speed rail.

fuckin.

tarded.

it works in japan, because japan is smol, 26 japan's could fit in the continental us
https://i.imgur.com/769caJw.png

i asked it how many times? 25? 50? and it spent 5 seconds deciding whether or not to round down or just tell me 26.

[shovelquest]

we're about to enter a age where nobody even leaves their house and everything in conducted on the actual metaverse

Invest in taco bell then.

uCjXxcvqsjk

[shovelquest]

I know how democrats can win the next ellection.

They all whistleblow that there has been a secet society of people who are hiding UFO relationships with an alien speices thats goal is to usurp the worlds goverments and they will arrive in 2040.

And then make up all kinds of fake shit and go hard core that you will disclose UFOs and that trump is an alien.

That would win the election.

Anything else = no.

[Ekco]

that'd have to rugpull the entire economy on him, people on cnbc we're lil worried this morning about eggs, job numbers weren't great and we get the inflation numbers next week.

someone literally said the phrase "strategic egg reserve" on cnbc this morning, and i'm pretty sure he was only half kidding

i got scared cause i had like 6 green days in a row with my small stack of poker chips and sold everything again yesterday before close. looks like i wasn't the only one shit was down last i looked

[shovelquest]

How can anyone be against this?

You just believe that these guys are a deep state and this is just lies and they are going to do a bunch of stuff behind the scenes?

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1887892486003245297

https://i.imgur.com/6dx4HAP.png

[shovelquest]

that'd have to rugpull the entire economy on him, people on cnbc we're lil worried this morning about eggs, job numbers weren't great and we get the inflation numbers next week.

someone literally said the phrase "strategic egg reserve" on cnbc this morning, and i'm pretty sure he was only half kidding

Im glad trump won and overnight they suddenly realized there was an economic collapse happening.

[Reiwa]

that'd have to rugpull the entire economy on him, people on cnbc we're lil worried this morning about eggs, job numbers weren't great and we get the inflation numbers next week.

someone literally said the phrase "strategic egg reserve" on cnbc this morning, and i'm pretty sure he was only half kidding

i got scared cause i had like 6 green days in a row with my small stack of poker chips and sold everything again yesterday before close. looks like i wasn't the only one shit was down last i looked

The freedom caucus don filed a bill to disband OSHA yesterday.

Eggs will be so cheap!

[shovelquest]

Maxine Waters to security guard: What are you gonna beat us up if we go in??

Me: We'll throw you in jail until you elect a president that cares enough to pardon you out.

u4viueoaEHg

[shovelquest]

Another angle of the maxine waters raid:

https://x.com/GME_Bett/status/1887879906291253433

https://i.imgur.com/pAoFcaq.png

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/KRAKmFo.png

yeah i fucking sensed that disturbance in the force yesterday, but being right feels way worse when you're only playing with 800bucks
https://i.imgur.com/uesJucd.png
if it was an actual fat stack i'd get fucked on short term cap gains though, still beating the market by 9% feels good, it's like EC tunnel but it actually matters.

Trump volatility trade is ez mode, people must be making bookoo bucks right now

[Reiwa]

Maxine Waters to security guard: What are you gonna beat us up if we go in??

Me: We'll throw you in jail until you elect a president that cares enough to pardon you out.

u4viueoaEHg

Florida zoomer center frame in the first half.

No, moc have no special rights to enter federal facilities. The overwhelming majority don't even have any level of security clearance.

[Ciderpress]

Maxine waters is completely retarded

[Ekco]

rich elitist dems screaming at the help as usual

good way to connect to the working class is by asking "do you know who i am" 100x

[Elizondo]

Maxine Waters to security guard: What are you gonna beat us up if we go in??

Me: We'll throw you in jail until you elect a president that cares enough to pardon you out.

u4viueoaEHg

[shovelquest]

put this man on a silver dollar

[shovelquest]

rich elitist dems screaming at the help as usual

good way to connect to the working class is by asking "do you know who i am" 100x

I love how they go full karen just screaming at basically the mcdonalds worker working the register.

"do you know who we are??!!"

Maxine: "THIS IS HIS NAME, KILL HIM!"

They even drag his children into this lmao Id have hit her in the face.

[Lune]

Imagine rooting for WWA style political theatrics while corporations and oligarchs corner the entire government and economy.

[shovelquest]

Imagine rooting for WWA style political theatrics while corporations and oligarchs corner the entire government and economy.

Biden gave ford 10 billion for EV's and they shuttered that program.

They handed over 22 billion to silicon valley investors with some kind of lie that they are the backbone of our economy.

And moved 4 trillion dollars to the 1% in 2 years.

and you're like "1 guy who owns a space ship corporation really upsets me"

[Elizondo]

Imagine rooting for WWA style political theatrics while corporations and oligarchs corner the entire government and economy.

That is what is being drained right now

Hope that helps

[shovelquest]

OH NO THE MY PILLOW OLIGARCHY OHHH NOOOO

[shovelquest]

Imagine rooting for WWA style political theatrics.

I think we should be reminded democrats are the ones that are both doing them, and saying we need more of them.

[Ekco]

Imagine rooting for WWA style political theatrics while corporations and oligarchs corner the entire government and economy.

it's been that way since before i was born, idk if your aware but they blew a president's head off in Dallas once for disagreeing with them

so it's probably more healthy people treat it as entertainment instead of thinking their vote or opinion actually matters

[Ekco]

I love how they go full karen just screaming at basically the mcdonalds worker working the register.

"do you know who we are??!!"

Maxine: "THIS IS HIS NAME, KILL HIM!"

They even drag his children into this lmao Id have hit her in the face.

they never miss an opportunity to play into a negative stereotype about them, the controlled opposition conspiracy tards might actually be right


cause if this was any other situation, like a boxing match or other sport, everyone would be screaming it's fixed or they are taking a dive for money.

and until Trump goes after Dems insider trading and all the actual corruption, he ain't drained no fucking swamp, he didn't lock her up. none of the actual chess pieces on the board are being touched.

just random bullshit for the plebs to be either pro/against

[Lune]

it's been that way since before i was born, idk if your aware but they blew a president's head off in Dallas once for disagreeing with them

so it's probably more healthy people treat it as entertainment instead of thinking their vote or opinion actually matters

Your vote and opinion do actually matter. From his inception as a politician, Trump was actually not ordained by the power brokers, and they did everything they could to bury him. Though the Trump movement has been a catastrophe for different reasons, his election was a singular victory for populist representation in the face of the corrupting influence of concentrated money.

Unfortunately, his second term is going nearly exactly how his first term went. He is leveraging every means available to him to prove he has POWER and INFLUENCE, which is exactly what he doesn't have, because he doesn't control Congress-- he's very close to a lame duck. Political theatrics, banging pots and pans while locked out of the kitchen.

Notice he hasn't actually done anything that would leave him open to being humiliated by congress like he was in his first term, and most of what he has done has been held up in the courts or walked back.

So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.

[Ekco]

Your vote and opinion do actually matter

I live in a non competitive district in Texas, Dems haven't ran for the house seat here since Ann Richards was governor

we ran the literal opposite of Beto this time and still lost to Cruz, so you're literally, factually wrong.

>So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.

alright, i will continue doing exactly what i've been doing for the last 5 presidential elections then.

[Lune]

I live in a non competitive district in Texas, Dems haven't ran for the house seat here since Ann Richards was governor

we ran the literal opposite of Beto this time and still lost to Cruz, so you're literally, factually wrong.

>So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.

alright, i will continue doing exactly what i've been doing for the last 5 presidential elections then.

It's non-competitive because there are too many people who think like you or don't think at all.

Your Texas vote mattered when it was cast for Trump rather than Cruz or some other corporate chucklefuck in the primary, back in 2016. It's a shame he betrayed you, but it was still an act of popular sovereignty.

[Ekco]

it's literally hilarious you think i vote in primaries, or voted for Trump, last time i voted it was for Obama, the first time.

my district is between +15 and +20 for Republicans each cycle, maybe google what gerrymandering is, and Bush v Vera

something the party could have attempted to actually fight, when you know, they had power at the federal level at some point over the last 2 decades, but now they don't have any power and somehow it's something i should care about, when they abandoned me behind enemy lines a long long time ago just like the working class they claim to care so deeply about.

sucks to suck

tater tots n prayers tho.

hope this helps.

send post

*sorry for calling you retarded earlier, i edited it out

[Reiwa]

Governing by executive order only goes so far.

It's been 20 years and you still don't believe in the unitary executive. C'mon man!

[Lune]

it's literally hilarious you think i vote in primaries, or voted for Trump, last time i voted it was for Obama, the first time.

my district is between +30 and +45 for Republicans each cycle, maybe google what gerrymandering is you fucking retard lol.

Bitching about how your vote doesn't matter, and simultaneously can't be bothered to vote. Now extend that individual behavior out to a few million people and realize how dumb your "votes dont matter bro lol" argument is when taken in aggregate.

Also, your autistic screeching aside, gerrymandering is pretty irrelevant in primaries, which is where Texas chose Ted Cruz over Trump in 2016 (though Trump still ended up with 48 delegates that would contribute to his primary victory nationally), so every vote mattered. You don't even understand how civics work and I'm the retard lol. In cases where your vote gets thrown away because of gerrymandering, primaries are especially important and impactful, especially Republican primaries that aren't tainted by superdelegates.

[Reiwa]

For their part, Vesting Clause minimalists tend to claim that Congress, through the exercise of its legislative powers including the Necessary and Proper Clause, can qualify or regulate the President’s exercise of powers that have not been clearly assigned to his sole discretion so long as Congress does not impede the President’s ability to discharge his constitutional duties.

The Necessary and Proper clause is also known as the Elastic Clause as well as the "Pussy Clause". (https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-ii/clauses/347)

[shovelquest]

Your vote and opinion do actually matter. From his inception as a politician, Trump was actually not ordained by the power brokers, and they did everything they could to bury him. Though the Trump movement has been a catastrophe for different reasons, his election was a singular victory for populist representation in the face of the corrupting influence of concentrated money.

Unfortunately, his second term is going nearly exactly how his first term went. He is leveraging every means available to him to prove he has POWER and INFLUENCE, which is exactly what he doesn't have, because he doesn't control Congress-- he's very close to a lame duck. Political theatrics, banging pots and pans while locked out of the kitchen.

Notice he hasn't actually done anything that would leave him open to being humiliated by congress like he was in his first term, and most of what he has done has been held up in the courts or walked back.

So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.

The rich got richer under biden, and more billionares back him than trump, what say you?

[Lune]

The rich got richer under biden, and more billionares back him than trump, what say you?

Two things can be true at the same time. Democrats are infested with corporate rot, and Republicans too, but the extent and symptoms of infestation manifest differently.

Biden did not have control over the Senate and thus had little to no power without making shitty, corrupt deals with the corporate Senate. He was also severely demented and seemingly slept through most of his presidency.

I am not advocating for Biden or Pelosi or any of them. Americans need to rediscover unionization and trust-busting, and that can occur through either Democrats or Republicans. The free market made this country great and people need to be reminded that an economy dominated by monopolies and cartels is not a free market. Systematically dismantling the few checks left on corporate power, as the Project 2025 people are currently trying to do, is movement in the wrong direction, which is worse than the simple lack of any movement that occurred under Biden.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Your vote and opinion do actually matter. From his inception as a politician, Trump was actually not ordained by the power brokers, and they did everything they could to bury him. Though the Trump movement has been a catastrophe for different reasons, his election was a singular victory for populist representation in the face of the corrupting influence of concentrated money.

Unfortunately, his second term is going nearly exactly how his first term went. He is leveraging every means available to him to prove he has POWER and INFLUENCE, which is exactly what he doesn't have, because he doesn't control Congress-- he's very close to a lame duck. Political theatrics, banging pots and pans while locked out of the kitchen.

Notice he hasn't actually done anything that would leave him open to being humiliated by congress like he was in his first term, and most of what he has done has been held up in the courts or walked back.

So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.

Getting Mexico to agree to send thousands of their troops to the border to me screamed complete political posturing by Mexico to avoid a tariff. I pictured the Mexican President laughing as she cheers a wine glass with her team about easily playing Trump

But then again, I did hear illegal border crossings are now down 90%
https://nypost.com/2025/02/06/us-news/illegal-border-crossings-down-90-under-trump-border-patrol/


The rest of the executive orders I hadn’t followed, but I do doubt that the protect women’s sports one will be overturned legally. That concept is one where supposedly like 78% of the American people surveyed said they supported, which is I believe the largest amount of Dems willing to side with Repubs on any issue, even higher than immigration or the economy


But the trimming the fat like firing 10,000+ USAA staff isn’t posturing, and although Trump didn’t do it directly he is taking all the credit

I, however, personally have some issues with the reach and power of Doge, and I have a personal dislike of micromanagement when I have experienced it in my job. I also dislike this idea that anyone who dislikes micromanagement by Big Brother must be cheating or cutting corners. It’s like I like the idea of having some semblance of privacy, and the respect to assume I’m doing what I’m supposed to. But I understand that some micromanagement is necessary

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Doge reminds me a little of a spouse saying “honey if you have nothing to hide and aren’t cheating on me why can’t I confirm by reading every single text and email you’ve sent since we were married”

[Trexller]

I, however, personally have some issues with the reach and power of Doge

I think DOGE gets alot more press then it should given that it's Elon, and it somehow has the same name as his meme coin (it's in the book of revelation somewhere probably)

While nothing like it has existed before, DOGE is basically nothing more then an advisory think tank to Trump. It can't do anything that Trump doesn't wanna do.

They don't have officers who can kick in doors, or the ability to independently dictate policy

When you hear DOGE did this or DOGE did that, it's the trump administration doing whatever based on their advice

We've all at one point of another said or thought that the US government should be subjected to audits, this is a good thing all around, it's a heck of alot more bipartisan then the legacy media will admit.

Most people want this to happen, those that don't like trump would have just preferred that it was "one of their own" who was doing it.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Or another thought is apply it to your own life/job. Would YOU want someone studying every single minute and decision you made at your job to figure out if you are stealing company time by not working quite as hard as you could?

I feel like most sane people will be like “yea that’s great!” Until it gets applied to them, then they’re like “ugh, fuck this”

The same way as the Dems are hypocrites about illegals aka NIMBY

[Trexller]

Doge reminds me a little of a spouse saying “honey if you have nothing to hide and aren’t cheating on me why can’t I confirm by reading every single text and email you’ve sent since we were married”

except your spouse is cheating, you know they are cheating, they know you know they are cheating, yet they continually insist that they are not cheating, because you both know that they are the only spouse you can get

hundreds of billions of american tax dollars are being straight up laundered through the US government.

[Trexller]

Or another thought is apply it to your own life/job. Would YOU want someone studying every single minute and decision you made at your job to figure out if you are stealing company time by not working quite as hard as you could?

I feel like most sane people will be like “yea that’s great!” Until it gets applied to them, then they’re like “ugh, fuck this”

The same way as the Dems are hypocrites about illegals aka NIMBY

we can't be arbitrarily taxed without any say or knowledge of where those tax dollars go, we went to war in 1775 over pretty much the same thing.

the representative system was originally designed to be the oversight of this money, but we now live in a world where 90% of those representatives have become a part of that corrupt system, so it doesn't work anymore and other solutions are required

[shovelquest]

EXPLAIN in detail how these make the rich richer?

-No tax on tips
-No tax on seniors' social security
-No tax on overtime pay
-Renew Trump's middle-class tax cuts
-Adjusting the salt cap
-Eliminate all special tax breaks for billionaire sports team owners
-Close the carried interest tax deduction loophole
-Tax cut for "Made in America" products

Two things can be true at the same time.

Yeah but show me where the rich are getting rich under trump. I can for the democrats.

Show me where they are ripping Americans off and I'd be happy to say hang em from the wall.

[Reiwa]

I think DOGE gets alot more press then it should given that it's Elon, and it somehow has the same name as his meme coin (it's in the book of revelation somewhere probably)

While nothing like it has existed before, DOGE is basically nothing more then an advisory think tank to Trump. It can't do anything that Trump doesn't wanna do.

They don't have officers who can kick in doors, or the ability to independently dictate policy

When you hear DOGE did this or DOGE did that, it's the trump administration doing whatever based on their advice

We've all at one point of another said or thought that the US government should be subjected to audits, this is a good thing all around, it's a heck of alot more bipartisan then the legacy media will admit.

Most people want this to happen, those that don't like trump would have just preferred that it was "one of their own" who was doing it.

Correct assessment. Elon has no actual power but what Trump agrees to.

So it's really immaterial whether he's a Nazi or whatever.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

we can't be arbitrarily taxed without any say or knowledge of where those tax dollars go, we went to war in 1775 over pretty much the same thing.

the representative system was originally designed to be the oversight of this money, but we now live in a world where 90% of those representatives have become a part of that corrupt system, so it doesn't work anymore and other solutions are required

Yea that’s fine that’s a bit of fuck around and find out on USAID’s part about letting it get as bad as it was. I have no love for USAID

What I worry about is what sort of new precedent will this set? Sure do a few sweeps but maybe Doge also decides to set up little bots constantly studying your every correspondence and task. I mean why not? Who is it that checks and balances Doge?

(I had the same sort of issue with the unlimited power of the Mueller investigation btw)

And the whole “it’s read only” reminds me of cops who say if you surrender your phone to us for this investigation, we will ignore any other information other than what we need for the investigation” yea fuckin right….

[Reiwa]

But then again, I did hear illegal border crossings are now down 90%
https://nypost.com/2025/02/06/us-news/illegal-border-crossings-down-90-under-trump-border-patrol/

Illegal border crossings?

My brother in Christ, 99% of the immigration issue is lawful asylum claims.

[Trexller]

Yea that’s fine that’s a bit of fuck around and find out on USAID’s part about letting it get as bad as it was. I have no love for USAID

What I worry about is what sort of new precedent will this set? Sure do a few sweeps but maybe Doge also decides to set up little bots constantly studying your every correspondence and task. I mean why not? Who is it that checks and balances Doge?

(I had the same sort of issue with the unlimited power of the Mueller investigation btw)

And the whole “it’s read only” reminds me of cops who say if you surrender your phone to us for this investigation, we will ignore any other information other than what we need for the investigation” yea fuckin right….

It's not just USAID tho, they were only first on the chopping block. We can safely assume that this sort of financial trickery is occurring in many, many, many government agencies. Anytime any government hands out money, there are hundreds of layers of people skimming the cash.

This isn't setting a precedent so much as The POTUS is actually exercising the power granted to him by the constitution, every POTUS in like the past 60 years has been a swamp creature more interested in maintaining status quo, rather then running a federal government that works for The American People, but instead they have all been running an organization that greases palms and pays off whoever they need to in order to maintain this status quo

If the US Government wants your data, every detail of your digital life, they can buy it from Meta, Google, Telecoms, Banks etc. There is nothing in the US constitution that addresses personal digital data, nothing, not a whiff, if you type it into a text field or click on a link, Anybody can collect and sell that information

the system is so utterly broken and rotten that a new coat of paint can't even begin to address the problem, we have to tear down the structure and rebuilt it timber by timber

DOGE doesn't have any permanent status, and Elon can't operate in his position for more than 130 days in a 365 day period or he has to get another government employee definition.

I heard today from a reasonably reliable source that they are looking into at least 517 billion in funds appropriated by congress during fiscal year 2024 for programs that are expired, some over 40 years ago

congress didn't vote to re-approve the program's funding, they just kept on issuing checks

I once saw an interview with a DoD contractor like some dude from raytheon or lockheed, and he was saying it doesn't matter if their programs get cancelled or not, they always find the funding somewhere

now it all makes a heck of alot more sense

[shovelquest]

What I worry about is what sort of new precedent will this set? Sure do a few sweeps but maybe Doge also decides to set up little bots constantly studying your every correspondence and task. I mean why not? Who is it that checks and balances Doge?

If that's what elon would do then you have far more terrifying things to worry about that he can already do with what he had at his disposal regardless of who won the election.

Like what prevents google from reading all our emails? Or apple from all our texts? Not much.

[shovelquest]

Illegal border crossings?

My brother in Christ, 99% of the immigration issue is lawful asylum claims.

100% of border crossings are legal asylum at this point it's total bullshit.

That's the whole point of immigration reform, it's a total joke and asylum is being abused by anyone.

Right now you can literally seek asylum because you are afraid of racism online.

[Trexller]

100% of border crossings are legal asylum at this point it's total bullshit.

That's the whole point of immigration reform, it's a total joke and asylum is being abused by anyone.

Right now you can literally seek asylum because you are afraid of racism online.

seeking asylum in the USA for anyone outside of mexico or canada has always been bullshit anyway

international agreements dictate that asylum seekers should apply for asylum in the first "safe" country that they come to. so anyone coming up from south america (including asians who fly into SA countries then travel north) should be stopping in a country like mexico and applying for asylum there.

Nobody except for the marxist globalists ever thought that everyone in the world should be entitled to asylum in the US or europe

Trump is only half right when he says, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you and Im only standing in the way"

What is standing between marxist globalists and their twisted utopia is The United States and it's constitution

The sheer utter chaos of immigration is just another asymmetrical warfare tactic meant to clog the gears of government and destabilize the target nation, compassionate hyper-liberals are the avenue that makes this tactic possible.

[shovelquest]

seeking asylum in the USA for anyone outside of mexico or canada has always been bullshit anyway

international agreements dictate that asylum seekers should apply for asylum in the first "safe" country that they come to. so anyone coming up from south america (including asians who fly into SA countries then travel north) should be stopping in a country like mexico and applying for asylum there.

Nobody except for the marxist globalists ever thought that everyone in the world should be entitled to asylum in the US or europe

Trump is only half right when he says, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you and Im only standing in the way"

What is standing between marxist globalists and their twisted utopia is The United States and it's constitution

The sheer utter chaos of immigration is just another asymmetrical warfare tactic meant to clog the gears of government and destabilize the target nation, compassionate hyper-liberals are the avenue that makes this tactic possible.

Palestinians, now those guys are seeking asylum.

Ukrainians.

Hell even russians!

I could argue that mexicans are, but only if we admit we should let trump drone strike cartel all day.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I’ll use my job as a microcosm for this issue:

So we bill the state for clinical hours. We can only bill for time we spend with clients, obviously we can’t bill the state for our time charting afterwards

There also isn’t nearby enough of us to handle the demand of a neverending slew of clients. So rushing through or not taking one’s time accomplishes nothing. We get no “productivity bonus” that other positions like outpatient counselors can get, no nothing

https://y.yarn.co/83c347db-9a2f-4efc-817d-3b513032e514_text.gif


So just about every “veteran” of the agency has learned to “time manage” and stretch as much as possible your time spent with clients. Not in the interest of billing for more money but to prevent from having seen 10 clients in a day and now having 10 charts to do, for which you are given no free time, and each can take up to an hour

Everyone who wants to Be All They Can Be, and be a hero who doesn’t somewhat stretch client time, burns out and quits. The system is simply not set up to support them

The idea of having the state micromanaging every minute of time spent with clients to force us into a burn out situation pisses me off. And I AM a hard worker with a good work ethic

[shovelquest]

I’ll use my job as a microcosm for this issue:

So we bill the state for clinical hours. We can only bill for time we spend with clients, obviously we can’t bill the state for our time charting afterwards

There also isn’t nearby enough of us to handle the demand of a neverending slew of clients. So rushing through or not taking one’s time accomplishes nothing. We get no “productivity bonus” that other positions like outpatient counselors can get, no nothing

https://y.yarn.co/83c347db-9a2f-4efc-817d-3b513032e514_text.gif


So just about every “veteran” of the agency has learned to “time manage” and stretch as much as possible your time spent with clients. Not in the interest of billing for more money but to prevent from having seen 10 clients in a day and now having 10 charts to do, for which you are given no free time, and each can take up to an hour

Everyone who wants to Be All They Can Be, and be a hero who doesn’t somewhat stretch client time, burns out and quits. The system is simply not set up to support them

The idea of having the state micromanaging every minute of time spent with clients to force us into a burn out situation pisses me off. And I AM a hard worker with a good work ethic

yeah even in private business this is how it works.

The difference is one guy is like, wait what the fuck I can have a yact if I fire half these people and we still do the same work? Ok they're fired.

Then next year they hire that many people because you have to be hiring to get all your taxes and company status etc. And the cycle continues, waste is cleaned, and the company value goes up.

Mass firings are like day to day in the real world, but not in the goverment for some reason.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

yeah even in private business this is how it works.

The difference is one guy is like, wait what the fuck I can have a yact if I fire half these people and we still do the same work? Ok they're fired.

Then next year they hire that many people because you have to be hiring to get all your taxes and company status etc. And the cycle continues, waste is cleaned, and the company value goes up.

Mass firings are like day to day in the real world, but not in the goverment for some reason.

In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction

And it would be nice to have hard work rewarded in some way, but that would also involve you paying us more

But here in the real world the state would be nah how about you just do it or get fired. And then my counter-argument would be yknow that constant turnover means less competent counselors and also possibly a money loss for you in terms of having to constant hire and train?

And the state would be like “/shrug, as long as it’s less than the cost of doubling your staff or paying you bonuses then it’s worth it”


Weee

[Reiwa]

Is there a process for deratifying treaties?

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/90th-congress/27

Although 59 is not the supermajority of 100?

[shovelquest]

In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction

I feel like there needs to be some kind of a better outlet to tell voters from your position just how inefificent things are.

Like if voterse could see that, theyd vote for efficiency obviously. But it's so like, not in their pov.

Like take LA for example. If literally nothing is done about fire safety and prevention except saying "were upping our standards on fire and safety prevention, bringing more water to where it's needed and ensuring the city is ready for any future disaster" that's all they need to hear to elect the same damn people. And never once ask for an audit on that a year later, especially any audit with any consequences.

We need a better way for people to see, "he says they're doing all that, but clearly they re not and look how inefficient it is holy shit!"

Like, relying on politicians to "tell us what's going on" is just not working when we "all know they lie"

Perhaps with Ai we can have better stuff, but, whos to say that the Ai isn't funneling 3% of the money to Elon musk?

This is why we must live in pain and suffering, instead of well old efficiency. There's always someone to ask "yeah but what if.."

Maybe we need like IRS but just for the goverment, and it's got a division of journalists, that publish all the fucked up shit the IRS finds.

[Trexller]

In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction

And it would be nice to have hard work rewarded in some way, but that would also involve you paying us more

But here in the real world the state would be nah how about you just do it or get fired. And then my counter-argument would be yknow that constant turnover means less competent counselors and also possibly a money loss for you in terms of having to constant hire and train?

And the state would be like “/shrug, as long as it’s less than the cost of doubling your staff or paying you bonuses then it’s worth it”


Weee

you're a public employee but you aren't spending tax dollars outright, you're billing for a service

im 99% sure you are safe from scrutiny unless you guys are holding counseling sessions in luxury hotels and then throwing cocaine and hooker parties on the taxpayer dime

mental health services are stretched so thin that anyone with half a brain is gonna be like, Yeah i'm not gonna screw with that, the entire field is like a single line of people holding back sheer hordes of utter insanity, we'll get into the need for the state mental hospitals another time

these government agencies under congress are just throwing american tax dollars willy nilly at any whim that tickles their fancy, that has to be addressed before the average tax rate is 30%

we have all thought about the trillions that the IRS collects each year and thought Holy hell where does all that money go? now we are seeing the tip of the corruption iceberg

[Reiwa]

Is there a process for deratifying treaties?

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/90th-congress/27

Although 59 is not the supermajority of 100?

https://i.imgflip.com/9jhrik.jpg

[Trexller]

https://i.imgflip.com/9jhrik.jpg

We can't ask our senators to do more than 15 hours of actual work per week

they only make $174,000 per year but they're really good at saving money and living on a budget so after a couple years service they are worth millions because math

[shovelquest]

DOE was created in 1979, do we really need it? It's not like anyone thinks anyone from Genx or millennials are smart or anything.

Funny how basically right after that we start the student loan crisis.

[Reiwa]

DOE was created in 1979, do we really need it? It's not like anyone thinks anyone from Genx or millennials are smart or anything.

Funny how basically right after that we start the student loan crisis.

As much as I hate zoomers I think they've made good progress in righting the ship recently.

[Trexller]

DOE was created in 1979, do we really need it? It's not like anyone thinks anyone from Genx or millennials are smart or anything.

Funny how basically right after that we start the student loan crisis.

not only does education get ridiculously more expensive, but student results go down and everyone gets dumber year after year starting 1979

prior to that, they figured out how to fly to the moon on sheet metal and tin foil

apparently nobody is smart enough to reproduce this feat, we're actually worse at space travel then we were in the 1970s

how is it possible to forget how to fly to the moon, every major technological breakthrough has been doubled and tripled within a few decades except space flight which regresses over time

they literally forgot how to do it, as their story goes

[shovelquest]

As much as I hate zoomers I think they've made good progress in righting the ship recently.

lol they're more maga than the boomers!

what part of the ship do you like, crypto? :D

[Reiwa]

lol they're more maga than the boomers!

what part of the ship do you like, crypto? :D

I'm not sure how I'm related to the fifth grader but he knew what a Googol is.

Also my nieces are pretty clever!

[shovelquest]

I'm not sure how I'm related to the fifth grader but he knew what a Googol is.

Also my nieces are pretty clever!

I was hoping GenZ would get us out of this mess or maybe alpha, but i really don't think so, but maybe my familiy is dumb I am :cool:

[Botten]

lol this timeline is nuts.

https://i.imgur.com/qIy6wlm.png

Yeah this 19 year old (Edward Kornstein) was fired from his previous job Path Network which an executive wrote, Quote: "Edward has been terminated for leaking internal information to competitors. This is unacceptable and there is zero tolerance for this. Then a spokesperson for the Arizona company confirmed that Edward's contract was terminated after the conclusion of an internal investigation into the leaking of proprietary company information that coincided with his tenure. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-07/musk-s-doge-teen-was-fired-by-cybersecurity-firm-for-leaking-company-secrets)

This kid had the oversee of million of Americans sensitive data. Including Social Security numbers and more.

Good job backing him Orange voters.



Further more Marko Elez, a 25 year old, left due advocating racist hatred towards Indians. Elon personally tasked JD Vance to post that the Marko Elez should be brought back in all his hatred to work again for DOGE. Then the Orange man and Elon were quick to jump on the bandwagon and the racist Marko Elez is back working for DOGE. (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5133970-vance-khanna-doge-staffer-rehiring/)

How humiliating must it be that JD Vance now needs to back track on his pride a second time. First was his statements about the orange man as fascist and now when he has an Indian family and wife to be made to be part of Elon's games to bring back a racist to work for DOGE.


Elon pushed lies about Politico and Gaza Condoms. All because Elon had a brazen vendetta for USAID investigating Starlink's shut down in Ukraine at the request of Putin.
(https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365)


And for the icing on the cake I was right!

They are just trying to make the rich richer with reducing their taxes.

An inside Government Worker from the Federal Government that handles most of the executive orders reveals this.

PISBVVxHuYA


Lastly Elon plans to push more LIES about the USAID during the Superbowl buying up AD time.
We are watching Fascist Propaganda being pushed to the uneducated.

[shovelquest]

Literally the worst possible way to reply to that post imaginable.

https://i.imgur.com/iutmyeH.png

[Reiwa]

They are just trying to make the rich richer with reducing their taxes.

Technically the 2017 tax cuts are set to expire so it would be better described as keeping their taxes the same if Republicans get their way.

Which they will, unless the Parliamentarian thinks a war would be funny. 🤣

You do know revenue went up?

[shovelquest]

Why would I care if the rich are getting richer because they pay less taxes? The democrats literally just take my money and give it to them.

[Botten]

Technically the 2017 tax cuts are set to expire so it would be better described as keeping their taxes the same if Republicans get their way.

Which they will, unless the Parliamentarian thinks a war would be funny. 🤣

You do know revenue went up?

I know his last term ended in recession and the start of inflation.

I also know he would rather cause an insurrection than lose power.

Very dangerous

[Botten]

Literally the worst possible way to reply to that post imaginable.

JD Vance.png

The irony was JD Vance was made to post in humility.

[shovelquest]

I don't know what you mean but everything in that video of the schizo skateboarder that was uncovering the hydra's plan was based and I for all of it.

[Trexller]

I also know he would rather cause an insurrection than lose power.

Very dangerous

you really don't know much

ZB8kjR4nYzk

[Botten]

you really don't know much

The Telegraph Russia YouTube channel

Wow even in that Russian propaganda rag; The Telegraph… he still pushed the lie he won when using fake electors, trying to manipulate the VP and his white supremacy groups that day.

You aren’t helping your cause there Texmex

[Trexller]

Wow even in that Russian propaganda rag; The Telegraph… he still pushed the lie he won when using fake electors, trying to manipulate the VP and his white supremacy groups that day.

You aren’t helping your cause there Texmex

what part of, "Go home, and go home in peace" are you struggling with here?

i'm a native english speaker, happy to help out

[Ekco]

Bitching about how your vote doesn't matter, and simultaneously can't be bothered to vote. Now extend that individual behavior out to a few million people and realize how dumb your "votes dont matter bro lol" argument is when taken in aggregate.

Also, your autistic screeching aside, gerrymandering is pretty irrelevant in primaries, which is where Texas chose Ted Cruz over Trump in 2016 (though Trump still ended up with 48 delegates that would contribute to his primary victory nationally), so every vote mattered. You don't even understand how civics work and I'm the retard lol. In cases where your vote gets thrown away because of gerrymandering, primaries are especially important and impactful, especially Republican primaries that aren't tainted by superdelegates.

Cruz dropped out a month later because he didn't have a path, Trump got nearly 3x the delegates, after the Debate where Trump fucked up Cruz he had zero chance.

Donald J. Trump:1,447
Ted Cruz: 551


doesn't really do much for your counter argument to my "yeah, this shit is decided where i don't live" also, why the fuck would i be voting for Cruz when i'm a Bluedog Democrat, it was Killary versus Larry David on our side, and remind me again how dirty the party did Sanders?

i might not be fluent in civics, but apparently you're confused about the reality were living in,

Hillary won 65% to 33% in the Texas primary, because on my team whomever MSNBC and their corporate overlords tells them the vote for, is how it's gonna be, so staying home and playing p99 was the correct choice in '16

you're basically an adult being told Santa Claus isn't real and your response is. "well, if enough people believe it's real, representative democracy actually works, hurr durr i'm very smart and a positive person" no, it literally doesn't outside of this fluke event where a populist shitposters won twice, this is the exception that proves the rule about a reality we've been living since 1961 and Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex.


but, go on. keep coping.

[Ekco]

kCOSZCdLbyE

[Duik]

Trump follows money.
Musk has more money (he is willing to dump) to make his will so.
Trump believes it is in his best interests. Maybe it is. Who knows.

Many of the departments musks doge has attacked had/have active/pending investigations into his businesses.

He is lowering safety nets for many of his business interests. Aviation. Vehicular transport. Maybe medical chip insertion. Who knows. Do you?

He is (in your opinion) a smart man.
Why waste his time fixing something he already has a massive finger in?
Space, internet, EV and A.I companies, many of which already have subsidies/contracts with the US (and other countries).
Here is a simple question.
Does he have legal troubles with any of the entities he has essentially hobbled?

I hope for all your benefit they do well for you.

I doubt it though.

JD Vance loves his wife and kids and will defend them to his death...
Thats all I know.

[Botten]

24650

Now who also did something similar in Germany’s history?

What leadership movement valued controling their art presentation?

[Ekco]

>According to its budget request, the Kennedy Center receives $45.73 million in federal funding
"And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Art Hitler into power"
https://i.imgur.com/NAqhOKT.png

another easy layup win for red team

blue team should start applying that "trust the science" logic to polls, and stop being so bad at this.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Indian men, especially on Reddit, I’ve seen saying far more negative stuff about themselves than I’ve ever seen others say about them

I had mentioned before, there seems to be some “blackpilled” movement in India where men are saying that women see them as the least desirable/attractive race

I mentioned to this to an ultra-progressive co-worker once and I was surprised to see him agree. He was like “oh yea that’s a thing about women’s attitudes towards Indian men”. He didn’t have any concrete data to show, it was more of a hunch

Was kinda worrisome. I almost wonder if the reason is outside of Bollywood there really aren’t any celebrity Indian men “hunks” other than that dude from Harold and Kumar who got (and I believe stayed) jacked for his role in Eternals

[Elizondo]

Bug Eating Botten wallowing in extreme TDS

Pure Comedy

[Ekco]

other than that dude from Harold and Kumar who got (and I believe stayed) jacked for his role in Eternals

different dudes, Kumail Nanjiani is the Eternals,Silicon Valley,Mass Effect Andromeda guy(and the only redeeming quality of that entire fucking game) and a nerd's nerd his X-files podcast is real good and he's friends with Dan Harmon the guy who wrote community and was a recurring guest on his podcast back in the day

the poor guy from Harold and Kumar is named Kal Penn and hasn't done much since then really

XGtAGk0fTSI

[Reiwa]

24650

Now who also did something similar in Germany’s history?

What leadership movement valued controling their art presentation?

“Just last year, the Kennedy Center featured Drag Shows specifically targeting our youth – THIS WILL STOP. The Kennedy Center is an American Jewel, and must reflect the brightest STARS on its stage from all across our Nation. For the Kennedy Center, THE BEST IS YET TO COME!”

Botten likes to throw softballs over the plate. It's his trolling style.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

75% of politics is choosing the right words to either exaggerate or minimize any occurrence

It’s just a battle of language. Apparently Jon is getting sick of the hyperbole too

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXA5mbW1DX8

[Botten]

Ez Gonzo said it best Art shouldn’t be decided by those who suffer from Total Devotion Syndrome.

Hmm now the Orange man wants to establish an office to counter "anti-Christian bias." Does this violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment?

The Orange TDS voter… thoughts?

[shovelquest]

Wow even in that Russian propaganda rag; The Telegraph… he still pushed the lie he won when using fake electors, trying to manipulate the VP and his white supremacy groups that day.

You aren’t helping your cause there Texmex

its rich you saying Russian propaganda when you're a putin simp

[shovelquest]

Trump follows money.
Musk has more money (he is willing to dump) to make his will so.

So musk follows trump...

nice logic

[Botten]

its rich you saying Russian propaganda when you're a putin simp

Or when the orange man last night LOL fired the head of the national archives last night.

[shovelquest]

Or when the orange man last night LOL fired the head of the national archives last night.

fuck the head of the national archives.

he will be replaced with someone young and smart who understands AI

[Reiwa]

Ez Gonzo said it best Art shouldn’t be decided by those who suffer from Total Devotion Syndrome.

Hmm now the Orange man wants to establish an office to counter "anti-Christian bias." Does this violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment?

The Orange TDS voter… thoughts?

Dunno but you aren't allowed to do religious animus either. Held in the Colorado baker case.

No compelled speech!

[shovelquest]

This guy over here like "anti-christian" is unconstitutional.

But we should fire the doge team for being racist gamers.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Ez Gonzo said it best Art shouldn’t be decided by those who suffer from Total Devotion Syndrome.

Hmm now the Orange man wants to establish an office to counter "anti-Christian bias”

… thoughts?

I’ve always said it’s weird there doesn’t even exist a word for prejudice against Christians

We have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

And we have: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

And we have…”Anti-Christian”? It’s awkward to say. Why don’t they make a word for it?

Well, turns out they tried, it’s “Christophobia”. But Wikipedia will still only use that moniker in the body, not the title of their definition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_sentiment

Now, we would hope that there doesn’t exist a word for it because it happens so rarely that a word isn’t needed. That’s what we would hope….But it is, in my opinion, the most socially acceptable form of religious prejudice. Legally acceptable? Naw, I don’t think so, not going to argue that

But I do see it as more dangerous IF Islamophobia or Antisemitism became the most socially acceptable form of religious prejudice. Just because they are still smaller, despite Christianity also greatly shrinking

[Botten]

This guy over here like "anti-christian" is unconstitutional.

But we should fire the doge team for being racist gamers.

You just keep championing on the fascist support. LOL

[Botten]

I’ve always said it’s weird there doesn’t even exist a word for prejudice against Christians

We have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

And we have: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

And we have…”Anti-Christian”? It’s awkward to say. Why don’t they make a word for it?


How about making a claim to fight white racism? The orange man just stated this too.

[shovelquest]

You just keep championing on the fascist support. LOL

Puttin simp says what?

[Reiwa]

Or when the orange man last night LOL fired the head of the national archives last night.

Archives was the documents case. Mess with the bull, etc.

[shovelquest]

haha he likes games I like..

wait... have you been playing civilization... with US???! :D

https://i.imgur.com/aVmEFz1.png

[shovelquest]

Archives was the documents case. Mess with the bull, etc.

oh god they fired the 90 year old man who manages the archives.

And replaced him with a bird that drinks water (Ai).

And now we're 90000% more efficient!

OH NO OH NOOO!

head of the archives:

QkbLgcNz4fo

[Trexller]

I’ve always said it’s weird there doesn’t even exist a word for prejudice against Christians

Christians don't care if people shit talk them, they just forgive and move on with their lives

They also don't have time to be perpetually offended because they are in heterosexual marriages, have full time jobs and families to raise which occupies the vast majority of their free time

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/ytpe6qC.png

another point for red team, "avocado toast in the federal budget" debate, over.

what's the brain trust behind "defund the police" have as a response? it's like these mother fuckers never heard of Frank Luntz.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/ytpe6qC.png

another point for red team, "avocado toast in the federal budget" debate, over.

BYE BYE LIL SEBASTIAN (no more budget for ya).

https://i.imgur.com/96KXlv0.png

CNN:

Avocado toast makes up for 0.00000000001% of the national budget, so they should be able to have avocado toast at the gov employee office!

[Botten]

Christians are taught not to fight back, so we're the least racist of all religions.


Crusades and Christian global expansionism through violence says otherwise.

[Reiwa]

Crusades and Christian global expansionism through violence says otherwise.

Was there a Crusade before 732?

[Trexller]

Crusades and Christian global expansionism through violence says otherwise.

That was more like, "We wanna make some changes in the world, but we don't have a good reason to do it"

"Oh I know, we'll say we're doing it for God, then anyone who resists us is a heathen"

same thing as, "We want communism but nobody else does"

"Oh I know, we'll say we're doing it out of compassion for social minorities, then anyone who resists us is a nazi"

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Christians don't care if people shit talk them, they just forgive and move on with their lives

They also don't have time to be perpetually offended because they are in heterosexual marriages, have full time jobs and families to raise which occupies the vast majority of their free time

Well there is also strength in numbers. We are the dominant religion in terms of numbers

I would imagine there is a stark difference in how Christians in Africa or Arabic countries might feel

[shovelquest]

Was there a Crusade before 732?


Islamic Conquest of Syria (634-638) - Capturing Christian-majority regions, leading to numerous battle-related deaths.
Islamic Conquest of Egypt (639-642) - Overthrow of the Byzantine rule, involving conflicts with local Christian populations.
Islamic Conquest of North Africa (647-709) - Prolonged campaigns against Christian Berbers and Byzantines.
Conquest of Spain (711-718) - Overrunning the Visigothic Christian kingdom with significant battles.
Sack of Amorium (838) - A major Byzantine city sacked during the Abbasid Caliphate's campaigns.
Siege of Constantinople (717-718) - A failed attempt by Umayyad forces that caused many Christian casualties.
Invasion of Sicily (827-902) - Muslim forces engaged in prolonged warfare with local Christian populations.
Battles of Toulouse and Tours (721, 732) - Frankish forces defending against Umayyad invasions into Frankish territories.
Raid on Rome (846) - Muslim raiders sacked the outskirts of Rome, including St. Peter's Basilica.
Byzantine-Arab Wars (7th-11th century) - Continuous frontier skirmishes and battles between the Byzantine Empire and various Muslim states, causing numerous casualties on both sides.

THEN the crusades start.

"The Christians expansion through violence!"
- Anti Western Islamic sympathizer

[shovelquest]

Why did the crucades happen?

Answer: Because islamic theocratic armies were geocoding Christians.

Botten: Because Christians were trying to expand their hydra religion around the world.

[shovelquest]

The one, the literal ONE TIME Christians organized and fought against Islamic theocracy killing innocent people, they were called racist colonizers.

Isn't that ironic, that literally the exact same shit is happening to the Jewish religion right now.

[Ekco]

Crusades and Christian global expansionism through violence says otherwise.

https://i.imgur.com/kfC0La0.png

[Ekco]

that horse on the far right has seen some shit. god damn

[Trexller]

The one, the literal ONE TIME Christians organized and fought against Islamic theocracy killing innocent people, they were called racist colonizers.

Isn't that ironic, that literally the exact same shit is happening to the Jewish religion right now.

sounds pretty familiar

Hamas murders and/or rapes and/or kidnaps 1400 Israelis on oct 7th 2023

Israel wages a military response, Israel is called the bad guy for destroying Hamas, even though Hamas hides behind women and children because they are brave islamic warriors

[Botten]

Ignoring the crusades where the Pope Innocent III was the first person to essentially reunite Europe after Charlemagne, who was in turn the first person to unite it since the glory days of the Western Roman Empire. Innocent used Crusading as a political tool to get rid of rules who wouldn't tow the line--and it worked, even if it killed tens of thousands in the process.

Quickly listing 4 others:
Inquisition: Persecution and execution of heretics and non-Christians by the Catholic Church.

Colonial Conquests: European powers used Christianity to justify the subjugation and conversion of indigenous populations.

Wars of Religion: Conflicts between Catholic and Protestant states in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries.

Missionary Violence: Forced conversions and violence against native populations by Christian missionaries.

[shovelquest]

Where in thet bible does it tell the goverment of Spain to become authoritarian and torture people?

Colonial Conquests: European powers used Christianity to justify the subjugation and conversion of indigenous populations.

This is a stupid lie and where in the bible does it say to conquest? WHERE?

Wars of Religion: Conflicts between Catholic and Protestant states in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries.

By your logic the revolutionary war was a Christian war because it was for Christians to worship freely and rule themselves.

Everything you hate about the Christian religion, was actually the result of "mankind/governance" not religion.

Everything that was horrific that was done by the Islamic religion, was done because their religion outright says to do it.

Governments are bad.

New testament is squeaky clean.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

How about making a claim to fight white racism? The orange man just stated this too.

Well if we are talking about DEI or AA, that has always been legal racial discrimination

It’s the epitome of the Ends Justify the Means thinking. Everyone acknowledges that discrimination is bad, but if it’s for a good cause then we’ll tolerate it

And it’s the easier, but still inferior approach. Look at women in STEM as an example. Women for some reason seem to gravitate to human services fields like healthcare and education. Rather than putting quotas requiring uneven standards to hire more women into STEM, get to women as kids, and position the possibility of a fulfilling STEM job in their minds. Not as a requirement but as an option

Same approach works for minority representation. Get to them as kids, and convince them of what great life they can live with [x] job. The problem here is mostly a lack of motivation. If there were true motivation, people would find a way

[shovelquest]

Christ Wins.

https://i.imgur.com/0TlkMan.png

https://i.imgur.com/FyZpQhb.png

[shovelquest]

Literally Christian religion says "if you are attacked, just take it."

Anti christian people need to stop conflating the greed of man, with the religion they are fucking straight up ignoring.

At least if you're jewish, or islamic you can say, "My religion told me to do it"

[Botten]

Steve Wynn's petition to the Supreme Court to overturn the New York Times v. Sullivan decision is indeed significant. The 1964 ruling established a high bar for public figures to win defamation lawsuits, requiring them to prove "actual malice" — that the statement was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.

If the Supreme Court were to overturn this decision, it could weaken press freedoms and make it easier for public figures to sue media organizations for defamation. This could lead to a chilling effect on investigative journalism, as media outlets might become more cautious about publishing critical stories out of fear of legal repercussions.

In terms of propaganda, this change could be exploited to silence critics and control the narrative. Public figures and powerful entities could use defamation lawsuits to intimidate and deter journalists and media outlets from reporting on controversial or damaging information. This could result in a less informed public and a media landscape that is more susceptible to manipulation and misinformation.

What are your thoughts on this potential shift in press freedom?

[shovelquest]

Steve Wynn's petition to the Supreme Court to overturn the New York Times v. Sullivan decision is indeed significant. The 1964 ruling established a high bar for public figures to win defamation lawsuits, requiring them to prove "actual malice" — that the statement was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.

If the Supreme Court were to overturn this decision, it could weaken press freedoms and make it easier for public figures to sue media organizations for defamation. This could lead to a chilling effect on investigative journalism, as media outlets might become more cautious about publishing critical stories out of fear of legal repercussions.

In terms of propaganda, this change could be exploited to silence critics and control the narrative. Public figures and powerful entities could use defamation lawsuits to intimidate and deter journalists and media outlets from reporting on controversial or damaging information. This could result in a less informed public and a media landscape that is more susceptible to manipulation and misinformation.

What are your thoughts on this potential shift in press freedom?

I am totally for people being able to sue media for misinformation.

Individuals can speak however they want, but for profit corporations are not "people" and they should not have the same rights.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

What’s worse too about DEI is that the entire premise of DEI is in itself de-motivating. It’s like saying hey the system is rigged against you but maybe we can help if we can get every company in the country to buy into DEI

Weee, that gets me stoked to try

Even if discrimination exists, it isn’t the ultimate killer of representation. The ultimate killer is a numbers game. There aren’t enough numbers trying. If we consider discrimination on a spectrum between 0-100 with 100 being “I will never hire a black person ever no matter how large the company” and 0 means “I never discriminate” let’s assume a hypothetical as half of all employers are between 20-80% discriminating or something

If 1000 people apply, and 80% are discriminated against, 200 still ge through

If 10 apply, and 80% are discriminated against, 2 get through

Discrimination sucks and can be subtle. Improving the numbers game isn’t subtle at all

[shovelquest]

DEI does not work because if a yt guy says that it prevented him from getting a job the DEI people go "GOOD!"

That is not a solution.

[Ekco]

Steve Wynn's petition to the Supreme Court to overturn the New York Times v. Sullivan decision is indeed significant.

so we'd basically have the same libel laws as Europe, the place the left is always saying is far superior to the US, up until 5 minutes ago when they also starting fighting back against gender affirming care for minors and other things.

i wonder what the polls would say is the approval / disapproval of this.

https://i.imgur.com/P9nmSWY.png

[shovelquest]

so we'd basically have the same liable laws as Europe.

To be fair, that's all you had to say to make me flip and say we shouldn't do it :D Irony is it'd make the other side do the same!

[Ekco]

their libel laws + our 1A and it's fine. people have sued to the shit out of tabloids and other fake news over there and won

they don't have 1A though

sucks to suck

[shovelquest]

their libel laws + our 1A and it's fine. people have sued to the shit out of tabloids and other fake news over there and won

they don't have 1A though

sucks to suck

Naw I agree Im just JK.

In my mental schizoid universe tough we just rescind the right for corporations or businesses to be "people" and so they dont share the same rights as we do, and you can literally fact check a news company and if they are wrong you can sue them for like incompetency.

[Ekco]

yeah it's pretty insane the 14th amendment extends to corporations, and that citizens united shit only made it worse

[shovelquest]

Would be cool if democrats took this opportunity to say "good idea trump, let's also roll back these things that we've been saying are corrupt"

[Botten]

How about making a claim to fight white racism? The orange man just stated this too.

The Orange man just signed an executive order to give refugees status to white people.

He basically says that the government of South Africa is illegally taking land and property from the ethical minority (White People)

In the executive order he talks about how the government of South Africa is dismantling programs aimed at opportunity in employment, education, and business.

Can you imagine a government that would dismantle these programs that would take away the equal opportunity of employment in education and business.

The Orange man is very upset that South Africa is doing this, and he signed and executive order giving refugee status to any White person affected by this in Africa.

The guy who ran his entire campaign on hurting refugees in America just signed an executive order to make white people refugees.

Now how does the Orange man know what's happening in South Africa?
Why is he so concerned about what's happening in South Africa?

Because the Elon is concerned about it.

Worse the Orange man literally talks about it in his executive order how it is egregious that South Africa is dismantling these programs to create equal opportunity, WHEN HE IS DOING THAT SAME THING HERE!

And if you say well yeah white racism exists there. This means you orange voters understands that diversity and inclusion in America is necessary to stop white supremacy. You know when one ethnic group with the majority of power removes equality from others it is wrong.

[Botten]

so we'd basically have the same libel laws as Europe, the place the left is always saying is far superior to the US, up until 5 minutes ago when they also starting fighting back against gender affirming care for minors and other things.

i wonder what the polls would say is the approval / disapproval of this.

https://i.imgur.com/P9nmSWY.png

-This could lead to erosion of press protections overturning this decision could weaken the First Amendment protections for the press, making it easier for public figures to win defamation cases.

-This could threaten investigative journalism like it has in European laws, this change could have a chilling effect on investigative journalism, as media outlets might avoid publishing critical stories out of fear of legal consequences.

-Holding public figures accountable for their actions is a key role of the media. Weakening press protections could lead to reduced accountability and transparency. Destroying the narrative with money is just a free pass for pushing propaganda.

-A free and robust press is essential for a healthy democracy. Limiting the press's ability to report freely could negatively impact public discourse and the public's right to know.

[Botten]

Oh here we go, everything western is white supremacy.

We just proved that literally what you said was expanding christian religion was a reaction to a genocidal expansion of the islamic theocracy.

And you go straight to, oh ok well, white people as a whole are colonizers!

Aliens taking over... Christen whites colonizing... What are you about?

Edit: Nevermind it isn't worth it.

[shovelquest]

What are you about?

I give up, you dont listen you cant listen and you are a racist.

[Ekco]

-This could lead to erosion of press protections overturning this decision could weaken the First Amendment protections for the press, making it easier for public figures to win defamation cases.

-This could threaten investigative journalism like it has in European laws, this change could have a chilling effect on investigative journalism, as media outlets might avoid publishing critical stories out of fear of legal consequences.

-Holding public figures accountable for their actions is a key role of the media. Weakening press protections could lead to reduced accountability and transparency. Destroying the narrative with money is just a free pass for pushing propaganda.

-A free and robust press is essential for a healthy democracy. Limiting the press's ability to report freely could negatively impact public discourse and the public's right to know.

the press is already 100% captured by the companies that buy ads or just straight up owned by oligarchs now

everything your lighting your hair on fire about should of been dealt with 20+ fucking years ago, the war is over my dude

there needs to be a dr.strange love movie but instead of nukes it's the cyberpunk technocracy timeline we're on, so "stop worrying and love the AI CEO Overlords"

[shovelquest]

stop worrying and love the AI CEO Overlords

I wonder if after doge gets rid of a lot of these departments if their intention is to rehire young AI people to run them. Keeping up with the latest in Ai.

Would be nuts if they add "with an integrated link connecting them all!" :eek:

Seems like a stretch, but I'd say what's happening now I thought would have been a stretch.

[Ekco]

probably, all kids who have doge coin also lol

his algo at X prolly ranks them based on how many posts of his they like and he'll pick from the top

like i literally don't give a shit what these kids motivation is, pump shitcoins i don't give a fuck, it's better than 80 year olds making laws about how the internet works.
VVJldn_MmMY

think this is the clip, the one boomer who knew even in the slightest wtf was going on and the importance of cyber warfare and the government getting up to speed, was also the actor in hunt for red October as the admiral lol
edit:
Freddie Dalton Thompson

15 years later congress people were saying the most cringe shit possible and asking zuckerberg and others the dumbest fucking questions about cell phones and other things

[Reiwa]

The Orange man just signed an executive order to give refugees status to white people.

He basically says that the government of South Africa is illegally taking land and property from the ethical minority (White People)

In the executive order he talks about how the government of South Africa is dismantling programs aimed at opportunity in employment, education, and business.

Can you imagine a government that would dismantle these programs that would take away the equal opportunity of employment in education and business.

The Orange man is very upset that South Africa is doing this, and he signed and executive order giving refugee status to any White person affected by this in Africa.

The guy who ran his entire campaign on hurting refugees in America just signed an executive order to make white people refugees.

Now how does the Orange man know what's happening in South Africa?
Why is he so concerned about what's happening in South Africa?

Because the Elon is concerned about it.

Worse the Orange man literally talks about it in his executive order how it is egregious that South Africa is dismantling these programs to create equal opportunity, WHEN HE IS DOING THAT SAME THING HERE!

And if you say well yeah white racism exists there. This means you orange voters understands that diversity and inclusion in America is necessary to stop white supremacy. You know when one ethnic group with the majority of power removes equality from others it is wrong.

This gives a combined total of 256 seats for parties with socialist or socialist-leaning ideologies out of 400 seats in the National Assembly.

Do Socialist or Socialist-Leaning Parties Have a Majority?
Yes, with a combined total of 256 seats, these parties do have a majority in the National Assembly, as this exceeds the 201 seats needed for a simple majority.

ANC and EFF are confiscating land. America does not cotton to that type of thing.

[Reiwa]

-This could lead to erosion of press protections overturning this decision could weaken the First Amendment protections for the press, making it easier for public figures to win defamation cases.

-This could threaten investigative journalism like it has in European laws, this change could have a chilling effect on investigative journalism, as media outlets might avoid publishing critical stories out of fear of legal consequences.

-Holding public figures accountable for their actions is a key role of the media. Weakening press protections could lead to reduced accountability and transparency. Destroying the narrative with money is just a free pass for pushing propaganda.

-A free and robust press is essential for a healthy democracy. Limiting the press's ability to report freely could negatively impact public discourse and the public's right to know.

They denied cert in 2022 for a case involving the Sullivan precedent and the composition of the court has not changed.

Only Gorsuch was interested.

[Botten]

They denied cert in 2022 for a case involving the Sullivan precedent and the composition of the court has not changed.

Only Gorsuch was interested.

I fear with the lean so far right and fresh faces the worst can happen.

[Reiwa]

Botten - since you're baiting.

(nobody else has to read this)

Summarize the history of campaign finance laws passed by Congress and court rulings upholding or invalidating them, including to focus on the precedents in Buckley v Valeo and Citizens United
Here's a summary of the history of campaign finance laws passed by Congress, with a focus on key precedents like Buckley v. Valeo and Citizens United v. FEC:

Legislative History:
Tillman Act (1907):
Banned corporate contributions to federal candidates.
Response to corporate influence in politics.
Federal Corrupt Practices Act (1925):
Required disclosure of campaign spending by federal candidates.
Hatch Act (1939):
Prevented federal employees from engaging in political activities to influence elections.
Taft-Hartley Act (1947):
Extended the ban on corporate and union contributions to include primaries.
Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) (1971):
Established comprehensive rules on campaign finance, including disclosure requirements, spending limits, and public funding for presidential campaigns.
FECA Amendments (1974):
Created the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and set limits on contributions and expenditures.

Key Supreme Court Decisions:
Buckley v. Valeo (1976):
Upholding and Invalidating:
Uphold: Contribution limits were upheld as they prevented corruption or the appearance of corruption.
Invalidate: Expenditure limits were struck down on First Amendment grounds, arguing that spending money on political speech is a form of protected speech.
Significance: Established the principle that money equals speech in political contexts, leading to the differentiation between contributions (which can be regulated) and expenditures (which generally cannot).
Citizens United v. FEC (2010):
Ruling: Overturned part of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (BCRA) of 2002, which had prohibited corporations and unions from using their general treasury funds for "electioneering communications" close to elections.
Impact: Allowed unlimited independent political spending by corporations, unions, and other associations, leading to the rise of Super PACs (Political Action Committees) which can raise and spend unlimited sums provided they do not coordinate with candidates.
First Amendment Argument: The Court ruled that political spending is a form of protected speech under the First Amendment, extending the logic from Buckley but expanding it significantly to include corporate speech.

Other Notable Developments:
Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (BCRA) or McCain-Feingold Act (2002):
Aimed to curb "soft money" contributions and regulate electioneering communications, but parts were later invalidated by Citizens United.
McCutcheon v. FEC (2014):
Struck down aggregate limits on how much individuals could donate to all candidates, parties, and PACs combined in an election cycle, further liberalizing campaign finance laws based on First Amendment rights.

Implications:
These decisions have significantly shaped the landscape of campaign finance in the U.S., moving it towards greater freedom for spending while still maintaining some limits on direct contributions. This has led to debates about the influence of money in politics, the nature of political speech, and the balance between free speech and preventing corruption or undue influence.

This summary highlights how legislative efforts to regulate campaign finance have frequently been contested and shaped by judicial interpretations of the First Amendment.
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Were there any other cases you did not mention above? Summarize their holdings.
Here are a few other significant U.S. Supreme Court cases related to campaign finance:

First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti (1978):
Holding: The Court struck down a Massachusetts law that prohibited corporations from spending money to influence the outcome of ballot initiatives unless the issue materially affected their business. The ruling expanded the right of corporations to engage in political speech, arguing that such speech is protected by the First Amendment.
FEC v. Massachusetts Citizens for Life (MCFL) (1986):
Holding: The Court carved out an exception for nonprofit advocacy groups from the ban on corporate independent expenditures. It ruled that the Massachusetts Citizens for Life, which was not formed to amass capital but to promote political ideas, could make independent expenditures on behalf of candidates without violating the law. This case established that not all corporations (specifically, those formed to promote political ideas) are subject to the same restrictions as profit-driven corporations.
Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce (1990):
Holding: Upheld a Michigan law that barred corporations from using general treasury funds for independent expenditures in candidate elections. The Court argued that the law was justified due to the potential for corporations to exert undue influence over elections through amassed wealth. This decision was later implicitly overruled by Citizens United.
Nixon v. Shrink Missouri Government PAC (2000):
Holding: The Court upheld state limits on contributions to candidates, affirming that states have the right to set their own contribution limits to prevent corruption or the appearance of corruption, similar to federal limits upheld in Buckley v. Valeo.

SpeechNow.org v. FEC (2010) - This was a significant case decided by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, not directly by the Supreme Court, but its implications are crucial:
Holding: The court ruled that contributions to groups that make only independent expenditures cannot be limited under the First Amendment, leading to the establishment of Super PACs. This decision was based on the logic from Citizens United that independent expenditures do not corrupt candidates.
McDonnell v. United States (2016):
Holding: While not strictly a campaign finance case, this decision narrowed the definition of "official act" under federal bribery and honest services fraud statutes, which indirectly affects campaign finance by clarifying what constitutes an exchange of favors for political donations. It potentially makes it harder to prosecute politicians for accepting bribes.

These cases reflect ongoing judicial efforts to balance the protection of political speech with the prevention of corruption or undue influence in the political process. They have incrementally shaped the legal landscape around campaign finance, often expanding the scope of First Amendment protections for political expenditures while setting boundaries on direct contributions.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

This gives a combined total of 256 seats for parties with socialist or socialist-leaning ideologies out of 400 seats in the National Assembly.

Do Socialist or Socialist-Leaning Parties Have a Majority?
Yes, with a combined total of 256 seats, these parties do have a majority in the National Assembly, as this exceeds the 201 seats needed for a simple majority.

ANC and EFF are confiscating land. America does not cotton to that type of thing.

Yea but it is still some other country’s problem

I too find it very interesting that Trump all of a sudden cares after Elon gets his job

[Reiwa]

In other words, the courts have been damn well clear, but elected politicians still persist in passing unconstitutional restrictions on speech.

[Reiwa]

Context: The case arose from the nonprofit corporation Citizens United wanting to distribute a film titled Hillary: The Movie which was critical of then-Senator Hillary Clinton during her 2008 presidential campaign.

[arvidez]

the press has "immunity" for the same reason pharma does. the press says sorry

[Botten]

the press has "immunity" for the same reason pharma does. the press says sorry

Too bad the gun companies don't.

And sorry Reiwa you are right more and more restriction are occurring on free speech while some restriction are very necessary.

The film was classified as electioneering communication restricting it from free speech under BCRA.

Interpretation in that case and others seems to be a factor and the party with majority in SCOTUS increasingly make the partisan decisions. The close split showed that the justices' political beliefs influenced their interpretations of the First Amendment and campaign finance laws.

Free speech shouldn't allow hate speech or speech that could endanger others. Obama said it best, adversaries might exploit free speech protections to spread misinformation or sow discord. This underscores the importance of finding a balance that upholds the principles of free speech while ensuring public safety and social cohesion.

And to keep up with the baiting... the orange voters find it perfectly fine if more pizzagate like stories get pushed.

[Trexller]

Free speech shouldn't allow hate speech or speech that could endanger others. Obama said it best, adversaries might exploit free speech protections to spread misinformation or sow discord. This underscores the importance of finding a balance that upholds the principles of free speech while ensuring public safety and social cohesion.

I can fight for myself and do not require a big brother to decide what is safe for me or not

You wouldn't understand, given that you are not an American.

https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/51/11/Quotation-Benjamin-Franklin-They-that-can-give-up-essential-liberty-to-purchase-a-51-11-77.jpg

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Well calling for actual violence is already illegal to my knowledge

It’s a slippery slope for any speech beyond that because why not make the rule no one can ever say anything negative about anyone or anything else ever?

No more fights then

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Because if we’re coming from the premise of “this particular speech endangers this group” then we’re stuck arbitrating which group is acceptable to be endangered

Because then the right could say “well calling us Nazis endangers us” and the only responses are really “nah it doesn’t” or “that’s ok”. Neither creates cooperation

[Botten]

I can fight for myself and do not require a big brother to decide what is safe for me or not

You wouldn't understand, given that you are not an American.

Quotation-Benjamin-Franklin-They-that-can-give-up-essential-liberty-to-purchase-a-51-11-77.jpg

That quote refers to the tension between liberty and security.

There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate.

It is why you post The Telegraph youtube channel and fall for the orange man's statement that there wasn't an insurrection.... that in fact there was a push to use fake electors, to manipulate the VP or the use of white supremacy groups on J6 to cause discord.

[Botten]

Because if we’re coming from the premise of “this particular speech endangers this group” then we’re stuck arbitrating which group is acceptable to be endangered

Because then the right could say “well calling us Nazis endangers us” and the only responses are really “nah it doesn’t” or “that’s ok”. Neither creates cooperation

Education would be best. And I do have hope because while one party is doing their best to hold back education.. AI is becoming the fact checker they have difficulty arguing with.

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/pjwu50b.jpg

[Ekco]

There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate

Pizzagate tards are just as bad as the people shutting down free speech because the term Kung Fu is racist and somehow a lab leak theory is off the table but let's talk about how they eat like animals out of a wet market, and wtf is a Pangolin, do they eat it? that's not racist at all...

literally took John fucking Stewart on national television to do a hard reboot on the left group think because they wouldn't accept they were wrong about something and how fucking crazy their overreach and how actual nazi like it was as soon as they had the opportunity to assert power over people it corrupted them instantaneously

so the fact you sit here, still claiming to have some claim over the moral highground over the other side, is performance art satire

[Reiwa]

41. Under our Constitution, some powers belong to the federal government. What is one power of the federal government? Question 41 Audio

to print money (https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test/100-civics-questions-and-answers-with-mp3-audio-english-version)

[Botten]

*sigh

Orange man administration begins dismantling the consumer financial protection bureau.

The CFPB is an agency used to protected Americans from price gouging and from big corporations. It was literally founded for the sole purpose of protecting consumers.

The CFPB even goes after credit companies for fees.

CFPB site is down, Elon posted on X it is dead and it has been announced all official activities are frozen.

OSHA, EPA, CDC and Department of Education are getting destroyed... if government can't function. I suspect the Judicial system's fears are correct soon there won't be any enforcement on their decisions when there is no federal officials and department to enforce them.

The executive branch will rule. Like a monarchy.

Imagine when it comes time to vote again.
The disorganization will allow anything to happen.

[Botten]

...on national television to do a hard reboot on the left group think because they wouldn't accept they were wrong about something and how fucking crazy their overreach and how actual nazi like it was as soon as they had the opportunity to assert power over people it corrupted them instantaneously...

We already touched on this sooooo many pages (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3717766&highlight=SARs-COV#post3717766)

[Ekco]

if i fucked up that bad and caused Trump to win again i wouldn't wanna talk about it anymore either.

[Trexller]

We already touched on this sooooo many pages (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3717766&highlight=SARs-COV#post3717766)

you still don't understand why nobody is buying what you're selling

nobody goes to your store, nobody wants your products, you're under a mountain of debt and you're out of business, the bank is foreclosing on your property and you're still shouting, "My products are the best!"

[shovelquest]

That quote refers to the tension between liberty and security.

There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate.

It is why you post The Telegraph youtube channel and fall for the orange man's statement that there wasn't an insurrection.... that in fact there was a push to use fake electors, to manipulate the VP or the use of white supremacy groups on J6 to cause discord.

What do you think of zuckerberg revealing that the biden administration aggressively told them what to take down from their site because it was fake news, and that news turned out to be true?

[Trexller]

What do you think of zuckerberg revealing that the biden administration aggressively told them what to take down from their site because it was fake news, and that news turned out to be true?

botten doesn't live in a world where that is the reality, in his world mean old joe rogan beat up zuckerberg while wearing a white KKK shroud and filled a hard drive with hunter biden's emails and pictures then dropped it off at a mom and pop repair shop ran by a blind technician

[shovelquest]

"there is a difference between battling missinformation and conspiracy theories."

he says this, then it turns out his own goverment silenced the free press over something that turned out to be true.

[Trexller]

2ZxuQZtp0MM

[shovelquest]

Conspiracy theories are that a south African nazi is secretly taking over our goverment with agents called big ballz.

That's literally a conspiracy theory.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Education would be best.

I agree 1000%. Prior to it needing to be hardcoded into law, people SHOULD be mindful of what they say. Especially now with what you say and do in your personal life very possible to effect your job. That dude at the football game who called that dude’s wife an ugly cunt, he lost his job over that. That’s kinda weird to me, but this is the world we live in

And the amount of mindfulness should be based on reach. I shouldn’t have to consider what I say as much as, say, youtuber Moistkritical. He seems someone very cognizant of his reach. I’m sure to some he comes across as a fence sitting pussy. But I understand the motivation to do so

[Trexller]

Conspiracy theories are that a south African nazi is secretly taking over our goverment with agents called big ballz.

That's literally a conspiracy theory.

South African government is definitely taking land away from white people for no other reason then they are white people

that's as true as the day is long

[Reiwa]

botten doesn't live in a world where that is the reality, in his world mean old joe rogan beat up zuckerberg while wearing a white KKK shroud and filled a hard drive with hunter biden's emails and pictures then dropped it off at a mom and pop repair shop ran by a blind technician

I think it's still illegal to distribute materials obtained whatever way that was. (Posting online is distributing).

[shovelquest]

Trump is a dictator is a fuckn conspiracy theory for christ sakes I hate democrats.

[Trexller]

Trump is a dictator is a fuckn conspiracy theory for christ sakes I hate democrats.

so ive had the feeling for awhile that our terms like republican/democrat or liberal/conservative are wildly outdated and no longer serve to describe an individual's political opinions

MAGA is a de-facto political party that ran on the republican ticket, Woke is an utterly failed ideology that ran on the democratic ticket

The libertarians are now more right-wing then bush era republicans, those dudes like dave smith or tim pool made a hard turn right

It feels like we don't have terms and labels to describe the groups that are created by individual political leanings anymore, like now modern politics could truly be a color blind process where the best ideas win

No more tribes to which we are expected to serve and adhere, no more categories to put people in

we saw our 2 major parties coalesce into some weird twisted "uniparty for the status quo" and their resistance to change caused their voters to revolt and be like I dont wanna be a part of that

I just can't bring myself to say republicans are this or democrats are that anymore

it's all so gray and murky now

[shovelquest]

so ive had the feeling for awhile that our terms like republican/democrat or liberal/conservative are wildly outdated and no longer serve to describe an individual's political opinions

MAGA is a de-facto political party that ran on the republican ticket, Woke is an utterly failed ideology that ran on the democratic ticket

The libertarians are now more right-wing then bush era republicans, those dudes like dave smith or tim pool made a hard turn right

It feels like we don't have terms and labels to describe the groups that are created by individual political leanings anymore, like now modern politics could truly be a color blind process where the best ideas win

No more tribes to which we are expected to serve and adhere, no more categories to put people in

we saw our 2 major parties coalesce into some weird twisted "uniparty for the status quo" and their resistance to change caused their voters to revolt and be like I dont wanna be a part of that

I just can't bring myself to say republicans are this or democrats are that anymore

it's all so gray and murky now

Yeah it's basically DNC/GOP uniparty vs Maga.

[shovelquest]

Soon the Ai party is gonna be rocking....

https://i.imgur.com/OF2vvr2.png

[Lune]

so ive had the feeling for awhile that our terms like republican/democrat or liberal/conservative are wildly outdated and no longer serve to describe an individual's political opinions

MAGA is a de-facto political party that ran on the republican ticket, Woke is an utterly failed ideology that ran on the democratic ticket

The libertarians are now more right-wing then bush era republicans, those dudes like dave smith or tim pool made a hard turn right

It feels like we don't have terms and labels to describe the groups that are created by individual political leanings anymore, like now modern politics could truly be a color blind process where the best ideas win

No more tribes to which we are expected to serve and adhere, no more categories to put people in

we saw our 2 major parties coalesce into some weird twisted "uniparty for the status quo" and their resistance to change caused their voters to revolt and be like I dont wanna be a part of that

I just can't bring myself to say republicans are this or democrats are that anymore

it's all so gray and murky now

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two dominant, competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany) can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden). A society run by assholes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State) isn't a society.

y2GwrR-4Q9E

[Trexller]

Soon the Ai party is gonna be rocking....

I'm pretty sure that any politician who is a mouthpiece for AI is gonna get destroyed by any human being who says, "I speak my own words"

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

those who think that software governing based on raw data is a good idea are the small minority of voters who would rather be told how to think rather then figure out reality for themselves. these are the same voters who don't care what their leadership does as long as the press conferences are "presidential" and says the right lines at the right times.

the same types of people who desire authority, as long as it doesn't have to be themselves

[shovelquest]

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany) can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden). A society run by assholes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State) isn't a society.

I subscribe to

The "Moral Circles Heatmap" illustrates how conservatives and liberals distribute their moral concerns differently by using concentric circles to represent various groups ranging from immediate family to all living things. The studies suggest that liberals tend to extend their moral concern to a broader range of entities, including non-human ones, while conservatives tend to focus their moral concern more narrowly, primarily around their immediate social groups.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Heatmaps-indicating-highest-moral-allocation-by-ideology-Study-3a-Source-data-are_fig6_336076674

https://i.imgur.com/rikH1lV.png

[Trexller]

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany) can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden). A society run by assholes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State) isn't a society.

i get what you're saying but you aren't helping yourself or anyone else by adhering to falsehoods and half truths.

I can tell you're smarter then that.

Trump's line from the access hollywood tape is speaking with regard to "Gold Digging Sluts" in which he states verbatim that "They let you grab them by the pussy" This is colloquially referred to as "Guy Talk" among real men. the other guy in the video is Billy Bush (yes, that bush) and he is a friend of Trumps who got railroaded out of his job over the tape which he did not intend to use

Leftist burned down buildings in many cities during his first presidency

The FBI emptied out boxes onto the floor and then took pictures as if that's how they found it, every single former president is in possession of classified documents

Trump never told kemp to manufacture enough votes to secure a win, "find the votes" was a reference to asking Brad Raffensperger the georgia secretary of state to investigate the discrepancy between expected voter turnout and the published results

you don't have to believe me you can look it up yourself if you want

or you could just observe that after the entire weight of the US justice department came down on trump, the only thing they could pin on him is porn star hush money, which was only a crime based on some white collar questionable book keeping that most businesses are guilty of.

[shovelquest]

I'm pretty sure that any politician who is a mouthpiece for AI is gonna get destroyed by any human being who says, "I speak my own words"

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

those who think that software governing based on raw data is a good idea are the small minority of voters who would rather be told how to think rather then figure out reality for themselves. these are the same voters who don't care what their leadership does as long as the press conferences are "presidential" and says the right lines at the right times.

the same types of people who desire authority, as long as it doesn't have to be themselves

Im really hoping that as quickly chatGPT came out of nowhere that nerualink cures cancer and stops aging thanks to a ASI that figured that out and the ASI basically asks us to let it take over and offers like basically eternal life in exchange.

[Trexller]

Im really hoping that as quickly chatGPT came out of nowhere that nerualink cures cancer and stops aging thanks to a ASI that figured that out and the ASI basically asks us to let it take over and offers like basically eternal life in exchange.

it's not thinking at all tho, it's identifying patterns in ridiculously large data sets, it's not gonna come up with a workable real-world solution to questions like, "how should we write laws for 300 million people who all have different social goals in life"

it does things like, "find the tree that is exactly 25 feet and 7 inches tall" in this picture of a mountain

AI in the medical field will definitely revolutionize things, like a doctor will prepare a data set about a patient, then the AI will compare that to the entire world's worth of medical data, and often find patterns that the human doctor would need a very long time to discover.

[shovelquest]

it's not thinking at all tho, it's identifying patterns in ridiculously large data sets, it's not gonna come up with a workable real-world solution to questions like, "how should we write laws for 300 million people who all have different social goals in life"

it does things like, "find the tree that is exactly 25 feet and 7 inches tall" in this picture of a mountain


Doesn't need to think, it's just a really smart bot. That can tell itself find the cure for cancer, and develop and integrate the best system of goverment.

AI in the medical field will definitely revolutionize things, like a doctor will prepare a data set about a patient, then the AI will compare that to the entire world's worth of medical data, and often find patterns that the human doctor would need a very long time to discover.

[Trexller]

Doesn't need to think, it's just a really smart bot. That can tell itself find the cure for cancer, and develop and integrate the best system of goverment.

i feel like our imagination fills in the blanks about AI a heck of alot faster then reality can teach us

I know a couple people who are working in the field and their attitude about it is like an old school calculator

that little device that is programmed to provide a result to a query like what is 2+2

the LLM is programmed to provide a result to a query like, "make a picture of a busty woman on a picturesque beach"

then it picks details from the millions of images it was trained on and constructs the AI image of a woman on a beach

they also tell me that this is an effort of thousands of people working 24 hours a day to refine the LLM so it doesn't use a motorcycle in place of a bicycle and stuff like that

[shovelquest]

i feel like our imagination fills in the blanks about AI a heck of alot faster then reality can teach us

I know a couple people who are working in the field and their attitude about it is like an old school calculator

that little device that is programmed to provide a result to a query like what is 2+2

the LLM is programmed to provide a result to a query like, "make a picture of a busty woman on a picturesque beach"

then it picks details from the millions of images it was trained on and constructs the AI image of a woman on a beach

they also tell me that this is an effort of thousands of people working 24 hours a day to refine the LLM so it doesn't use a motorcycle in place of a bicycle and stuff like that

Hey look at even the kid that works with Big Ballz in doge.. He used AI to analyze burnt scrolls and the AI figured out text, not a human.

I could totally foresee a situation where nuralink is able to cure disease without even people knowing wtf it's doing.

Here's an interesting real life example where Ai can tell the sex of someone based off retinas, and scientists still don't know how it does.

Imagine if it figures out a cure to cancer, and humans are like, "we don't know how it does it but it does it! ... instal neuralink in your brain, it just does it's thing and cures your cancer!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://x.com/EricTopol/status/1064217558218231809

https://i.imgur.com/Nqz6ryg.png

[Ekco]

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel


yeah when you really break it down, it's just a handful of applications we already had just slightly improved and packaged together

the chatbot part of it is from the mid 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA "A 2023 preprint reported that ELIZA beat OpenAI's GPT-3.5, the model used by ChatGPT at the time, in a Turing test study. However, it did not outperform GPT-4 or real humans."

https://i.imgur.com/a67a0Rk.png


it's a slighty better Search Engine sorta...when it feels like it, which is more about how shitty google has gotten over the years, where every time your trying to find a answer to something you'd write "reddit" at the end to just find the posts of actual humans discussing the problem instead of a page and a half of ads / clickbait articles.

i had it summarize all the amazon reviews and other reviews to pick a product for me the other day so that was kinda useful cause i didn't want to actual read about which Chinese car battery charger caught fire the least out of this 10 i had it look up, the email summarizing is useful

the only real actual improvement is the ML, machine learning part, that started with the chess programs and ended with whatever crazy game AlphaGo is training on currently, and AlphaGo started in 2015 and beat a 10dan w/e Go player in 2018 or something like that and that's the tech they used to make the image generating stuff and everyone filling out image capachas helped build the training data for it, which is the same shit used for Self driving cars


and all the creative writing generator shit is old as balls also.

[shovelquest]

:D btw, "dating in 2030"

https://i.imgur.com/k0TZyLA.png

[Reiwa]

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two dominant, competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany) can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden). A society run by assholes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State) isn't a society.

y2GwrR-4Q9E

Do you think you reckon Freddy Nietz will still be remembered in 2000 years?

:)

[shovelquest]

All cancel culture proved was artists are sexual deviants and if they are not, they suck at being artists.

[Ekco]

:D btw, "dating in 2030"

https://i.imgur.com/k0TZyLA.png

the kids are already dating in those VR chatrooms with fucked up Furry / anime avatars, it's 10x more weird than that Second life game from a long time ago, Twitch has an insane amount of them streaming also, it's an entire industry right now of people making custom models for people, shit's literally straight out of the book Snow Crash

https://en.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb/5/53/3DAvatars.png/800px-3DAvatars.png

[Ekco]

All cancel culture proved was artists are sexual deviants and if they are not, they suck at being artists.

"all art is made from spite or horniness, and a computer cannot be spiteful or horny, so a computer should never make art"

[shovelquest]

the kids are already dating in those VR chatrooms with fucked up Furry / anime avatars, it's 10x more weird than that Second life game from a long time ago, Twitch has an insane amount of them streaming also, it's an entire industry right now of people making custom models for people, shit's literally straight out of the book Snow Crash

https://en.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb/5/53/3DAvatars.png/800px-3DAvatars.png

Oh I have a TV show recommendation for you.

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[Ekco]

NOPE

edit: oh it's a comedy, i saw that thumbnail and was like...

[Trexller]

Imagine if it figures out a cure to cancer, and humans are like, "we don't know how it does it but it does it! ... instal neuralink in your brain, it just does it's thing and cures your cancer!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://en.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb/5/53/3DAvatars.png/800px-3DAvatars.png

I'd rather die of cancer alone on my birthday, then whatever these things are