Sweet Wow Drama

[shovelquest]

Im enjoying this wow drama.

What happened: PirateSoftware, a know it all streamer triggered his FLIGHT mode during a bad pull and was unable to switch back to his fight mode when his guild called for it.

Raid Instance:

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Pirate accepts no responsibility:

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Community discussion:

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I think it's hilarious.

xQc is right, hardcore does reward cowards more than hero's just like IRL! I wonder if there is a fix for that? Maybe a hardcore mode that ranks you based on dps/tanking vs spying from the back avoiding agro...

Pirate hardcore endgame raiding like:

https://i.imgur.com/PH4RtOp.gif

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Yeah he’s garbage

He roached out like a little bitch. He had more than enough mana to run up and nova everything (only boss would resist) buying his group a LOT of space to run. He also could have nova’d again when the cooldown came back

Rule of thumb: When shit hits the fan and you are oom or close to oom your prioritize your mana for CC. And ONLY CC. So many bad players try to run, dps, or heal then sit there dumbfounded staring at their empty mana bar as they get clowned into the dirt. When someone calls run, you CC. And mages are one of the best classes in the game at protecting a group’s escape with ice nova’s and sometimes r1 blizzard if mana permits

The ONLY mistake made by the rest of the group was to call a run and then try to turn and fight. If they committed to the fight without calling the run, it was winnable

But that mage is dogshit. And anyone who is supporting him is wrong, even if that is Asmongold

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

^
For additional context, this is hardcore mode so the mage’s mistakes got most of his group member’s max level characters permakilled

[shovelquest]

Yeah he’s garbage

He roached out like a little bitch. That mage is dogshit. And anyone who is supporting him is wrong

https://i.imgur.com/HnKCkoQ.png

[Swish]

Remember guys it's just a computer game.

[Ekco]

permadeath should be the standard now, so much easier to balance a game around that and it removes the need to make 30 expansions and increase the level cap to 120 like live had to do.

took the industry 20 years to figure out something that was common knowledge in 1974

[shovelquest]

Id love to know what the timeline would be like had the origional EQ be exactly the same, except a roguelike with permadeath.

That literally would have had a major impact on my life Im not sorry to say, for the better or worse, idk! I'd love to experience that timeline though. Imagine that. I cried when I lost an item in PVP and was ashamed of myself for that but imagine losing a whole character.. god I wish I knew what that would have been like for me.

[Ciderpress]

Random observation: WoW looks really weird to me now graphically. It's not quite old enough yet to get a pass for the way it looks like EQ or Mario 1 is, it's kinda stuck between eras. Looks like a PS2 or Gamecube game.

EQ looks like an N64 game with a somewhat higher poly count so my brain just goes ohhh okay this is old, it's fine.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

permadeath should be the standard now, so much easier to balance a game around that and it removes the need to make 30 expansions and increase the level cap to 120 like live had to do.

took the industry 20 years to figure out something that was common knowledge in 1974

Yup

[shovelquest]

Asmongold

I just heard the best take on elon musk H1B support, asmongold said it's because he wants to get his gold farmers into the USA so he wont get IP address conflicts and get his account flagged.

:D:D:D:D

[Swish]

Id love to know what the timeline would be like had the origional EQ be exactly the same, except a roguelike with permadeath.

That literally would have had a major impact on my life Im not sorry to say, for the better or worse, idk! I'd love to experience that timeline though. Imagine that. I cried when I lost an item in PVP and was ashamed of myself for that but imagine losing a whole character.. god I wish I knew what that would have been like for me.

There was less hand holding in 1999-2000, as well as way less participation awards and free pixels for logging in X days in a row. I think we'd all have taken it on board and even got better at the game quicker :)

[shovelquest]

Right? Would have been wild.

[Lune]

You'd think people would have learned by now not to ever, ever, ever group with streamers on hardcore. Wipes are content. Drama is content.

[Botten]

I just heard the best take on elon musk H1B support, asmongold said it's because he wants to get his gold farmers into the USA so he wont get IP address conflicts and get his account flagged.

:D:D:D:D

A. Asmon reminds me of Jerry Springer. All he does is look for controversy topics to rehash. He lives off bottom feeders of society. He is Athene 2.0; even idolizing him. *ick

B. Fact Checked - Half of everyone that’s here illegally (in the U.S.) came here legally on a visa and have overstayed their visa. (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/aug/24/kevin-mccarthy/mostly-true-visa-overstays-account-half-all-people/)

C. Steve Bannon made his money off Gold farming; with big ties to Chinese gold farmers.

The rich continue to use these voters that fall for these people, fooled into a culture war, in a hope to prevent a class war.

[shovelquest]

the rich elon, asmongold rich, asmongold, elon musk, elon the rich the rich, oligarch the rich the rich.

*ick

[Ciderpress]

The rich continue to use these voters that fall for these people, fooled into a culture war, in a hope to prevent a class war.

Oh no, more generic antipathy toward "the rich". Did you guys learn nothing from nov?

Why is the dem pitch always "don't vote for republicans, all they wanna do is cut taxes on the rich!"? For one thing, tons of dems are filthy rich as well, but for some reason they're the good kind?

Not to mention, the obvious follow up question from a prospective voter would be "Okay, so if I vote for you are you gonna cut *my* taxes instead?" to which the response is inevitably "Uhh... well no. In fact we'll probably raise them gradually over time. But at least we aren't cutting them for the rrrrrrrrrich!!".

Talk about people falling for shit. NYS is nearly entirely governed by democrats and property taxes are so high people are fleeing in droves. They can't afford to continue living in houses that have been in families for generations, due to higher and higher taxation.

[Ekco]

Wipes are content. Drama is content.

this ends in a boxing PPV event at twitch con or some dumbshit, winner gets to fight that logan paul kid.

[shovelquest]

Literally more money transferred to the 1% in the last 4 years in history, and I'm supposed to believe oligarchs are "taking over" next weekend.

Under President Biden, the wealth of the top 1% in the U.S. increased significantly, reaching new highs. In 2021 alone, their wealth rose by $4 trillion, representing 35% of all wealth gains in that year.

Richest 1% bag nearly twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together over the past two years (https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-bag-nearly-twice-much-wealth-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years#:~:text=%2426%20trillion%20(63%20percent)%20 was,to%20the%20bottom%2099%20percent.)

GTFO here with that oligarch shit. Yall are the ones that bailed out the silicon valley investors.

[Botten]

Oh no, more generic antipathy toward "the rich". Did you guys learn nothing from nov?

Why is the dem pitch always "don't vote for republicans, all they wanna do is cut taxes on the rich!"? For one thing, tons of dems are filthy rich as well, but for some reason they're the good kind?

Not to mention, the obvious follow up question from a prospective voter would be "Okay, so if I vote for you are you gonna cut *my* taxes instead?" to which the response is inevitably "Uhh... well no. In fact we'll probably raise them gradually over time. But at least we aren't cutting them for the rrrrrrrrrich!!".

Talk about people falling for shit. NYS is nearly entirely governed by democrats and property taxes are so high people are fleeing in droves. They can't afford to continue living in houses that have been in families for generations, due to higher and higher taxation.

So vote in the guys pulling the reverse robinhood and those that promote less education to push the narrative you have been told to parrot; in order to prevent a class war.

Or wait just vote green party where your vote further hurts any type of change.

Nah, it is just better to let the pendulum swing until it gets stuck and that faction splits into the two new parties.

[Botten]

Literally more money transferred to the 1% in the last 4 years in history, and I'm supposed to believe oligarchs are "taking over" next weekend.

Under President Biden, the wealth of the top 1% in the U.S. increased significantly, reaching new highs. In 2021 alone, their wealth rose by $4 trillion, representing 35% of all wealth gains in that year.

Richest 1% bag nearly twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together over the past two years (https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-bag-nearly-twice-much-wealth-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years#:~:text=%2426%20trillion%20(63%20percent)%20 was,to%20the%20bottom%2099%20percent.)

GTFO here with that oligarch shit. Yall are the ones that bailed out the silicon valley investors.

"Research indicates that wealthy interest groups have significant influence over political decisions, regardless of the party in power"

Reference -
https://www.courthousenews.com/pew-study-shows-growing-global-concern-over-economic-inequality/?form=MG0AV3

https://www.theregreview.org/2025/01/15/verni-when-money-talks-agencies-listen/?form=MG0AV3

So no you can't blame the Democrats or the Republicans for this.

But the alt right side pulling a reverse robinhood you definitely can blame.
Where the left wants to tax the rich.

[shovelquest]

So vote in the guys pulling the reverse robinhood

You mean the democrats that transfered 4 trillion to the 1% in the largest wealth transfer to the rich in human history? (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/american-oligarchy-decried-by-biden-gained-1-5-trillion-during-his-presidency)

Nah.

[shovelquest]

In poker, this is what as known as a "tell"... meaning, you're saying one thing, but thinking another.

Dancing when you think about speculators coming in, is a tell. This guy is the ultra rich. He is the "oligarchy" he has done nothing, but used politics to make his wealth.

https://i.imgur.com/AIFUKC0.gif

[Ekco]

Nah, it is just better to let the pendulum swing until it gets stuck and that faction splits into the two new parties.
i don't care if the pendulum swings off into another dimension at this point.

the faction split is happening on both sides organically, I'm a neolib foreign policy hawk, i hate turbo nationalist evangelicals as much as i hate bleeding heart progressives, fascists and commies suck, who knew...

there is literally a super majority of like 70% of the population in the middle if the cringe Portland wokes and the bible thumpers would go kick rocks we could live in a paradise but Nooooooo apparently pronouns and dumb fuck slogans like defund the police is a fight worth literally losing everything liberal democracies have built over the 100 years

https://everythingisayisright.com/images/arturo_gif_2.gif

[Botten]

You mean the democrats that transfered 4 trillion to the 1% in the largest wealth transfer to the rich in human history? (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/american-oligarchy-decried-by-biden-gained-1-5-trillion-during-his-presidency)

Nah.

You are just repeating the same thing from your other post and again.
Look I can do that too.

"Research indicates that wealthy interest groups have significant influence over political decisions, regardless of the party in power"

Reference -
https://www.courthousenews.com/pew-s...y/?form=MG0AV3

https://www.theregreview.org/2025/01...n/?form=MG0AV3

So no you can't blame the Democrats or the Republicans for this.

Additionally, during Biden's presidency we were under Trump's tax plan to give out handouts to the rich.

Did you forget that?

And now on eve of that tax plan ending you again are on the side that wants to further pull a reverse robinhood.

This really boils down to the lack of education they want to further promote in this next administration.

[shovelquest]

Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.

[shovelquest]

Additionally, during Biden's presidency we were under Trump's tax plan to give out handouts to the rich.

Did you forget that?

No my taxes are the only thing that I have going for me. And literally everyone loves how much they are paying taxes.

And it wasn't the taxes that gave the 1% 4 trillion, it was the American rescue plan, and the build back better plan.

https://i.imgur.com/yIizdDI.png

https://i.imgur.com/ByKVdMg.png

[Botten]

Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.

You know when you say socialist are you saying Soviet Union, Venezuela or Cuba?

Please be more specific :rolleyes:

Or is it the buzz word they feed you.

And America isn't anywhere close to socialism.

[Ekco]

Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.

the system is turbo fucked though, like just fixing the shit elon did with stocks and taking out loans against those stocks to skirt around having to pay taxes because a stock isn't actually worth what it's worth in the eyes of uncle sam but a bank can use it as collateral on a loan would be a start.

system has more exploits in it than a alpha build of a game on steam. fix all the actual bullshit and then do away with welfare

sink or swim should be universal, but the rich exploit free money from the government more than anyone

[Ekco]

And America isn't anywhere close to socialism.

our social safety net is better than any commie experiment in human history.

(if you bring up hunter gather communism in a tribe of 50 people from millions of years ago i will punch you through your monitor/phone)

[Botten]

No my taxes are the only thing that I have going for me. And literally everyone loves how much they are paying taxes.

And it wasn't the taxes that gave the 1% 4 trillion, it was the American rescue plan, and the build back better plan.

https://i.imgur.com/yIizdDI.png

https://i.imgur.com/ByKVdMg.png

Those were both plans that benefited the working class.
It got us out of the mismanaged covid recession.

Sadly demand returned and ports were still congested with no rapid plan to reopen and several oil refineries during 2020 were closed and no one bothered to bail them out with even a loan like the car industry. Thanks Donnie!

[shovelquest]

You know when you say socialist are you saying Soviet Union, Venezuela or Cuba?

No I am saying nazi's. The national socialist party and the democrat party are the same thing.

They hated the independently wealthy, and so do you.

[shovelquest]

Those were both plans that benefited the working class.
It got us out of the mismanaged covid recession.

This is peak cope. You're on drugs if you think giving 4 trillion to the 1% helps the working class.

Maybe you believe in trickle down economics. Idk.

You can't say the republican party is oligarchs when the vast majority of wealth transferred to the 1% is during democrat administrations.

It's the same with 2008. You parrot any talking point about how them giving trillions to the richest 1% in the world, somehow stops tigers from eating poor people.

[Botten]

No I am saying nazi's. The national socialist party and the democrat party are the same thing.

They hated the independently wealthy, and so do you.

And there is the education I am talking about

The Nazis, or the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), were not considered socialists in any meaningful way (https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists?form=MG0AV3)

You kinda walked into that one.

[Botten]

This is peak cope. You're on drugs if you think giving 4 trillion to the 1% helps the working class.

Maybe you believe in trickle down economics. Idk.

Again you keep repeating so I will too.

"Research indicates that wealthy interest groups have significant influence over political decisions, regardless of the party in power"

Reference -
https://www.courthousenews.com/pew-s...y/?form=MG0AV3

https://www.theregreview.org/2025/01...n/?form=MG0AV3

So no you can't blame the Democrats or the Republicans for this.

Additionally, during Biden's presidency we were under Trump's tax plan to give out handouts to the rich.

Did you forget that?

And now on eve of that tax plan ending you again are on the side that wants to further pull a reverse robinhood.

[Ekco]

it's literal horse shoe theory, the VW bug is a communist car, the nazis did socialism better than the CCCP did lol. fuckin idiot.

[shovelquest]

And there is the education I am talking about

The Nazis, or the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), were not considered socialists in any meaningful way (https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists?form=MG0AV3)

You kinda walked into that one.

COPE!

They are literally socialists, the only difference between them and the DNC is that they didn't allow immigration. But they also both loved cheap labor.

You can't explain in your own words why they are not socialists, because you are wrong.

They were absolutly socialists in every way.

There was no private wealth, buisnesses were distributed organized by the goverment.

They had every social program you want.

Public transportation, paid for by the state.

Free healthcare for its citizens.

It literally, is the utopia you are striving for. You just are propaganda brainwashed to think that they were conservative republicans because the public education system failed in this country 40 years ago.

[Botten]

it's literal horse shoe theory, the VW bug is a communist car, the nazis did socialism better than the CCCP did lol. fuckin idiot.

VW was commissioned by the Yahtzee regime, but was the "people's car" advertising transportation for all. Thou it being a "communist car" is a bit of a stretch.

The Yahtzees were far from communists. They had a fascists society.

[shovelquest]

Yeah its not a communist car... its a SOCIALIST's car.

National socialist party had:

Free healthcare.

Free public education.

Guns were heavily restricted.

Ownership was managed by the goverment.

Anit-smoking, healthy eating, and other subsidized health campaigns.

Familiy support polices.

Elder care policies.

Agriculture support.

Animal protection laws.

Min wage laws.

They. were. SOCIALISTS.


Just go read about it, find an article, or writing that doesn't have a headline that reads like this:

"No the nazi's were not socialists, they were actually republicans"

[Botten]

COPE!

They are literally socialists, the only difference between them and the DNC is that they didn't allow immigration. But they also both loved cheap labor.

You can't explain in your own words why they are not socialists, because you are wrong.

They were absolutly socialists in every way.

There was no private wealth, buisnesses were distributed organized by the goverment.

They had every social program you want.

Public transportation, paid for by the state.

Free healthcare for its citizens.

It literally, is the utopia you are striving for. You just are propaganda brainwashed to think that they were conservative republicans because the public education system failed in this country 40 years ago.

Don't get upset you fell into the group that didn't know.

[Ekco]

Thou it being a "communist car" is a bit of a stretch.

it was price controlled based off an average monthly salary, even had a goverment funded scam with stamps
https://www.germanstamps.net/wp-content/gallery/tr_rev_spar_vw/kdf_wagen_sparkarte_5rm_sheet_05.jpg

Nobody from the thousands of subscribers ever received the car.

literally the most communist car

same broken brain policies, only difference is what color shirt and who gets culled.

[Ekco]

I became a citizen that started with an H1B visa.


can you help me with some Python code

[shovelquest]

Don't get upset you fell into the group that didn't know.

Ill do you one even better, i bet you 100pp that you think Israel is taking native peoples land and making it impossible for them to succeed economically.

[Botten]

can you help me with some Python code

I just read over the rules again. I probably should not be revealing the information I did. I am not really from the information technology side. :D

[Reiwa]

No my taxes are the only thing that I have going for me. And literally everyone loves how much they are paying taxes.

And it wasn't the taxes that gave the 1% 4 trillion, it was the American rescue plan, and the build back better plan.

https://i.imgur.com/yIizdDI.png

https://i.imgur.com/ByKVdMg.png

TCJA took away the state/local tax break people were getting.

SALT (https://rollcall.com/2025/01/13/gop-eyes-compromise-salt-cap-in-low-to-mid-five-figures/)

[shovelquest]

Did you all know that since 2008, 25% of the US treasury bonds have been purchased by the federal reserve, through contracts?

This means that since 2008, 25% of our economy has been generated through printing money (point of purchase contracts for us treasury bonds). The Feds buy Treasury bonds by creating bank reserves, which are credited to the banks' accounts at the Fed.

This process increases the money supply because it creates additional reserve balances at the banks, which can then support more lending and economic activity.

(2008-2010): In response to the financial crisis of 2008, the Fed launched its first round of QE, purchasing about $1.75 trillion in government bonds and mortgage-backed securities.

(2010-2011): The Fed announced it would purchase an additional $600 billion in U.S. Treasury securities.

(2012-2014): This phase was open-ended and resulted in approximately $1.6 trillion in purchases by the end of 2014.

(2021-2022): The Fed's balance sheet expanded dramatically from about $4 trillion at the start of 2020 to over $8 trillion by mid-2021 due to purchases of U.S. Treasury and mortgage-backed securities.

Now before we make this a left vs right thing, lets not ignore that all of these happened during THE SAME GUY's administration. Im not blaming him.. but let's not even try to blame anyone.

Let's instead just accept the fact, that since the housing crash, we've lived in a fake economy.

Is it going to last? I don't think so.

[Botten]

I am afraid crypto will be embraced until that bubble pops.

[shovelquest]

crypto.

I feel like there was a previous time in history where everyone was investing everything into some kind of market that was heavily unregulated and it created a problem down the road after a handful of people got super rich...

Like, almost like around an even 100 years ago I feel like... but I just can't put my finger on it.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

our social safety net is better than any commie experiment in human history

Might be true if commie systems were just that bad (I’m not a history buff so I dunno), but here in America our safety net can be pretty shitty depending on what state you live in

Myself if I decided to stop working as a single adult man, let’s say with no friend/family supports, I’d be pretty fucked

Sure, I get free healthcare with no income which is the best part IMO. But not much beyond that. The amount of $$ I would get for food stamps would really help with dieting lol

And “welfare” or TANF simply doesn’t exist for single adults. Even SSID is damn hard to get in my state and doesn’t pay shit if you do. You have to be basically lifelong bat shit psychotic (not depressed, not anxious, not OCD, not bi-polar, none of that) to have a chance in hell of getting it for mental health reasons. Or you better be able to not move at all to get it for medical reasons. You could have a literal terminal illness with a few months left to live and you apply and you can ambulate, somewhat, denied

So I’d be left with free healthcare but still no income and no place to live. And there’s no room at shelters. So I would end up with ample opportunity to utilize that free healthcare in the form of all the infections and diseases I would pick up from living under a bridge or in a storm drain


But this is just in my state, others like CA might roll out the red carpet, I dunno

But I’m not a “whiny progressive” because of this. My takeaway is “get your shit together, no one is coming to save you” ;)

[shovelquest]

That's true we do have a good social saftey net for pretty much everyone but the lower middle class. Why does usa get such a bad rap? :(

[Swish]

Did you all know that since 2008, 25% of the US treasury bonds have been purchased by the federal reserve, through contracts?

This means that since 2008, 25% of our economy has been generated through printing money (point of purchase contracts for us treasury bonds). The Feds buy Treasury bonds by creating bank reserves, which are credited to the banks' accounts at the Fed.

This process increases the money supply because it creates additional reserve balances at the banks, which can then support more lending and economic activity.



Now before we make this a left vs right thing, lets not ignore that all of these happened during THE SAME GUY's administration. Im not blaming him.. but let's not even try to blame anyone.

Let's instead just accept the fact, that since the housing crash, we've lived in a fake economy.

Is it going to last? I don't think so.

It all went very quiet but wasn't there a thing on America's credit rating dropping in the eyes of some economists/banking establishments? Money machine go brrrrr memes etc.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

That's true we do have a good social saftey net for pretty much everyone but the lower middle class. Why does usa get such a bad rap? :(

That’s why the informal “social” part of safety net is more crucial now than ever. Networking with other people, especially local people, can result in incredible personal benefits, beyond just learning from them

But you have to be someone that people want to have around, simple as that. Pull that off, and you can almost endlessly network for all sorts of future favors (also requiring similar, at least in spirit if not income, in return)

Of course the easiest favors to get are pre-disaster though, but some people will go all out to help a friend in a disaster too

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Video creator won’t let me embed, but the first clip in this is an instant 40man raid wipe on hardcore mode (permadeath) due to a raid mechanic of the first boss of BWL

First I’ve seen a 40 man raid insta-wipe on the official servers, not many bosses I know of that can do that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=McTFpjH3DS4

[shovelquest]

did that person jump to their death and lose their character trying to get on the zeplin? haha!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

did that person jump to their death and lose their character trying to get on the zeplin? haha!

Yea sounds like her bf accidentally encouraged her to jump to her death lol

Would be icing on the mean cake if he was like “well that sucks honey, back to the starting zone for you, I’m not re-rolling” :)

[shovelquest]

Yea sounds like her bf accidentally encouraged her to jump to her death lol

Would be icing on the mean cake if he was like “well that sucks honey, back to the starting zone for you, I’m not re-rolling” :)

:D

r/AIOR My bf coaxed me into jumping off a cliff then left me to die with my hobbled ankles so he could finish the trail.