DRUGS?

[Piff]

Do you guys do any? what kind?

frequently? share your stories.

[quido]

life-long caffeine addiction

[Anger]

Weed. A while ago. Even though it shouldn't be considered a drug.

Azeth will back me up on this.

[deakolt]

weed is considered a drug if alcohol is considered a drug otherwise not a drug.

I have this chill shirt from peru that reads:

"la hoja de coca no es droga--es sagrado"
the coca leaf isn't a drug, it's sacred

[Feachie]

i rarely drink, and i don't do drugs anymore. back in the late 90's-early 00's i was going to raves a few times a month, tried lots of things. my rules were no needles and crack is dirty. i work in the cannabis industry now, so that's kind of unavoidable.

[Knuckle]

only time drugs are worth discussing are on drug forums, this board is far too juvenile for such things as shown by previous threads.

[Galanteer]

weed is considered a drug if alcohol is considered a drug otherwise not a drug.

I have this chill shirt from peru that reads:

"la hoja de coca no es droga--es sagrado"
the coca leaf isn't a drug, it's sacred

The way the Incas use coca leaves is more like coffee in its effect. They chew the leaf with an alkalyn to get a mild stamina boost. Its still a drug, so is chocolate. You don't see them snorting cocaine or freebasing rocks (maybe in the city, or a rare person, but the average Jose would just chew)

[Hailto]

Only heroin, stopped doing the hard shit years ago.

[FuglyP99]

I stay away from drugs, prescription, over the counter, illegal, or whatever, unless I need caffeine to keep from falling asleep at work.

I hate caffeine though, it gives me withdrawal. I visibly shake (mostly in my hands).

[deakolt]

The way the Incas use coca leaves is more like coffee in its effect. They chew the leaf with an alkalyn to get a mild stamina boost. Its still a drug, so is chocolate. You don't see them snorting cocaine or freebasing rocks (maybe in the city, or a rare person, but the average Jose would just chew)

Yeah? I'm not sure if you're arguing...

I will point out that the effects of coffee and coca leaves are both more like cocaine than are those of weed. Weed, coca, cocaine are all "drugs" here. Coffee isn't. What's up with that?

[Harrison]

People don't murder for coffee.

[deakolt]

People don't murder for coffee.

People wouldn't murder for cocaine if it were legal.

Ever heard of prohibition? Look at some history books, see how that turned out-

[Taryth]

If coffee was made illegal, I can assure you people would kill over it and form cartels just like they do for today's illegal drugs. Your post only serves to show the irrationality of your viewpoint.

ed. someone beat me to it.

[Pico]

Yeah? I'm not sure if you're arguing...

I will point out that the effects of coffee and coca leaves are both more like cocaine than are those of weed. Weed, coca, cocaine are all "drugs" here. Coffee isn't. What's up with that?

the effects of coffee is because of the caffeine, and caffeine is a drug so i'm not too sure what you're saying.

[deakolt]

the effects of coffee is because of the caffeine, and caffeine is a drug so i'm not too sure what you're saying.

When I was talking about drugs above, I was referring to illegal substances (hence the use of " "). For those purposes neither alcohol nor coffee is a "drug", yet coca leaves / weed / cocaine are.

Understand?

[Pico]

why not just say illegal instead of "drugs", sounds retarded tbh

anyways they should all be legal in this pug's opinion

[JenJen]

MDMA in my early 20's.

i have never had anything else bar alcohol and i dont smoke.

does that make me a bad person? im too old to do anything like that anymore - i can barely cope with hangovers nowadays. i'm approaching 30!!

[deakolt]

why not just say illegal instead of "drugs", sounds retarded tbh

anyways they should all be legal in this pug's opinion

i agree with you completely. That's why i wrote "drugs". Substances are so demonized in this country, the "drugs are bad" message we get as kids and through the media, etc, is fucking retarded, because drugs include: coffee, medicine, steroids, .... ? etc.

[Prince]

except they obviously aren't referring to all drugs when they say "drugs are bad," they're referring to the illegal ones.

keep smoking ur life away and trying to convince urselves + everyone else that weed is the same as alcohol, see how far it gets u (not far from moms basement)

[deakolt]

keep smoking ur life away and trying to convince urselves + everyone else that weed is the same as alcohol, see how far it gets u (not far from moms basement)

meh i just don't think this is true. you only know "potheads" if you think that way. I can smoke a joint and chillout for a night, just like I can drink a few beers one night. Neither of these actions means I'm going to be drinking and/or smoking all the time. Neither impairs me significantly more than the other.

I'd like to hear your argument for why alcohol should be legal and weed illegal-

[Hoggen]

http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/866-xbox-addict-dies-from-blood-clot/

[Prince]

A few reasons are summarized here: http://blog.ddetox.com/2007/09/14/which-is-worse-alcohol-or-marijuana/

Also; pots a gateway drug, has nowhere near the same societal history as alcohol use, supports mexican ppl, etc etc

[Prince]

smoke pot if u want, but don't kid urself that it:

-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-is safe to use
-is more healthy than alcohol
-doesn't support the wholesale slaughter of mexican civilians
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation


edit- don't get me wrong, i think the use of federal resources to raid pot farms and imprison stoners is a laughable waste of resources, but that doesn't mean that pots good/okay

[Rainflush]

Methamphetamine, heroin, and GHB are my favourites. I also use psychedelic drugs sometimes but that's an entirely different kind of experience and not something I'd really consider "recreational" per se.

[Bardalicious]

wts fishscale $80/gram pst

[deakolt]

smoke pot if u want, but don't kid urself that it:

-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-is safe to use
-is more healthy than alcohol
-doesn't support the wholesale slaughter of mexican civilians
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation


edit- don't get me wrong, i think the use of federal resources to raid pot farms and imprison stoners is a laughable waste of resources, but that doesn't mean that pots good/okay

i agree with most of this. I guess I think weed should be legal because I don't believe anyone should be able to tell me what I do to myself (provided I'm not hurting anyone else). I agree that it is unhealthy, can make you super lazy/unmotivated, it is addicting, etc.

The other reason I think weed should be legal is your edit and the mexican civilian slaughter bit.

It seems to me that legalizing weed would reduce the need to import so much pot from Mexico, hopefully reducing the power of the cartels there.

It seems to me that legalizing weed would reduce the misallocation of government resources (raids on pot stores, stoners in jail, etc)

It seems to me that legalizing weed would take a large amount of revenue away from difficult-to-trace cartels / other illegal ventures and give that money back 1) to the government and 2) to legal businesses which are subject to law/regulation

[Feachie]

there's no point in debating current cannabis policy with children that may or may not live in california.

People don't murder for coffee.

No, but they deforest for it. Sumatra Indonesia

[Piff]

2 bad this turned into a "who knows more about weed" argument. this thread sux now. i just want to hear stories, routines, ect. i'm on probation for a DUI at the moment and cannot smoke weed (which i would normally do rather often). so i opt to anti-anxiety pharms as they give me a similar effect and make me more lax when i'm hanging out solo playing my enchanter and jamming.

other than that i do MDMA once a month or so, on those beautiful days when you just want to feel perfect. i drink 3-4 nights out of the week. ironic that after getting the DUI/OWI they only test for weed/?meth? idk what all urine analysis covers. but basically it makes me drink more since i can't enjoy a bowl and relax rather than getting drunk.

do tell your own situation/stories/habits.

w/love <3 piff

[deakolt]

my favorite drug is lsd.

i roll once every couple months, usually at a rave (been trying to cut back from MDMA, I feel like this stuff fries your brain)

cocaine, been there done that

weed & alcohol are my main hooks now... do each mebbe 1-2 nights a week

[Prince]

2 bad this turned into a "who knows more about weed" argument. this thread sux now. i just want to hear stories, routines, ect. i'm on probation for a DUI at the moment and cannot smoke weed (which i would normally do rather often). so i opt to anti-anxiety pharms as they give me a similar effect and make me more lax when i'm hanging out solo playing my enchanter and jamming.

other than that i do MDMA once a month or so, on those beautiful days when you just want to feel perfect. i drink 3-4 nights out of the week. ironic that after getting the DUI/OWI they only test for weed/?meth? idk what all urine analysis covers. but basically it makes me drink more since i can't enjoy a bowl and relax rather than getting drunk.

do tell your own situation/stories/habits.

w/love <3 piff

man u dum or wut ur like 16 and already have a dui?

[FuglyP99]

I'm so glad I have the government to protect me from myself. Can you imagine if I had to make my own decisions and be responsible? Life would be so hard!

So Mr. Man, I shouldn't do drugs? Why? Because they're bad for me? Well, isn't junk food bad for me? Oh, that doesn't impair my judgement, you say? Well, isn't alcohol bad for me? Oh, we tried prohibiting that once and it led to a massive black market and violent cartels?

Hey, that sounds familiar...

[Piff]

man u dum or wut ur like 16 and already have a dui?

we get it man, you don't go out much.

[Hailto]

Yeah Prince, what the fuck is wrong with you man? You don't even have a DUI on your record? LOL what a fucking loser.

[Piff]

Yeah Prince, what the fuck is wrong with you man? You don't even have a DUI on your record? LOL what a fucking loser.

[Piff]

My man right here got two white bitches sucking his dick while hes cruising around drunk while bumping Justin Beiber. You are the coolest pre-18 suburban black kid ever.

swag

[Prince]

we get it man, you don't go out much.



oloolol i cud say it but this guy already did:


Yeah Prince, what the fuck is wrong with you man? You don't even have a DUI on your record? LOL what a fucking loser.

[Kalifa]

we get it man, you don't go out much.

what

[Slathar]

Too busy traveling the world doing boss shit.

[Arkyani]

I'm partial to the opiates, but then again I am prescribed them as well. Nothing wrong with enjoying them while getting rid of pain. Used to smoke green but havent in months since I got my new job. Dont smoke cigarettes nor drink coffee though.

[Galanteer]

People don't murder for coffee.

Ever hear of a little war in El Salvador where the US gov't supported the dictators with $1million/day in military aid?

There have been many coffee wars in history.

[Galanteer]

smoke pot if u want, but don't kid urself that it:
-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-is safe to use
-is more healthy than alcohol
-doesn't support the wholesale slaughter of mexican civilians
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation


-by the same logic chocolate is a gateway drug (99% of heroin users tried chocolate 1st)
-is habit forming, not addictive
-can be safe to use, ie extraction or vaporized (mostly is not used safely)
-depends on use and amount, alcohol is beneficial at low levels.
-depends where you get it. If you grow your own Mexicans die? (btw banana eating supports the slaughter of Colombians, Chicita banana was fined a few years back for 20 years of killing union organizers)
-depends on the person and the use amount, if they were already lazy/unmotivated, they will continue along that path.

[blanks77]

Lots and lots of psychedelics. Only psychedelics.

DMT, Psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, ayahuasca.

Fun stuff :D

[Tumdumm]

ok heres a good question that could save someone's life/brain/day:

anyone ever try something that should NOT be tried? ex. theres nothing fun about seroquil

[Bardalicious]

ok heres a good question that could save someone's life/brain/day:

anyone ever try something that should NOT be tried? ex. theres nothing fun about seroquil

Why would you elect to try something like Seroquil unless you were prescribed it? Even then I probably wouldn't take it unless I was pretty fucking bad off. I've seen people on it from legit prescriptions and it turned them into walking, emotionless zombies. No desire to do anything, feel anything, just a constant need to sleep.

But then I guess that's the nature of the beast that is our medical system. Don't ask, don't tell, just take this pill and stfu.

[Tumdumm]

i heard never smoke or base adderall, advice ive always followed

[Kalifa]

i've heard some crazy stories in my pharmacy classes, if you're really tryin to go on a bender take some scopolamine

[blanks77]

haha don't fuck around with scopolamine. Its from the plants Datura, Brugsmania, Henbane, etc.

Go read some reports on erowid on it, its not a psychedelic but makes actual real hallucinations. A delusional induced drug experience, that most people end up going to the hospital or doing something horrible on it.

[EkireiTheNecro]

man u dum or wut ur like 16 and already have a dui?

He's black.

[Tumdumm]

under legal drinking age is usually 0 tolerance so its more of an age thing than anything else probably

[Bardalicious]

My gateway drug of choice was nutmeg.

[Knuckle]

i've heard some crazy stories in my pharmacy classes, if you're really tryin to go on a bender take some scopolamine

ignorance at its finest, glad to see americas future pharmacists so well educated.

[Piff]

under legal drinking age is usually 0 tolerance so its more of an age thing than anything else probably

I wasn't driving and got pulled over, i was leaving a party that sucked whilst the cops were pulling a surprise attack to bust it. Wrong place wrong time. Got off very easy though. I didn't have to pay any fees. The Drug classes were only four weeks long and ONCE a week. I do community service at a nature center and it's totally chill to just be out there helping out in the woods. probation is nothing more than meeting up with this chill ass guy and talking about how my life is (which usually pertains to boring talk about how i did on my ACT/AP tests and my job). And in all honesty, not being able to drive can be a luxury sometimes. saves me loads of cash, and gives me an excuse to catch a ride home with the girl i'm trying to take home.

tldr; don't drink & drive.

edit: anyone see these tags? i laughed out loud haha. but stop guys, people keep getting banned because of their hilarious racist comments towards me and i don't want to see anyone else get the boot y'know? just chill fellas, chill.

[Prince]

so wut ur saying is that u were driving and got pulled over

[Piff]

so wut ur saying is that u were driving and got pulled over

No, i hopped in my car and put the keys in the ignition while officers pulled up. I never turned the car on. Good catch though, i worded that badly.

[Slathar]

No, i hopped in my car and put the keys in the ignition while officers pulled up. I never turned the car on. Good catch though, i worded that badly.

AP classes? ACT? DUI?

So which branch of business do you plan on majoring in?

[Feachie]

No, i hopped in my car and put the keys in the ignition while officers pulled up. I never turned the car on. Good catch though, i worded that badly.

ah they caught you with the old "You're behind the wheel" thing.

i got out of one of those by pulling the keys out, tossing them to the floor, quickly getting out and shutting the locked door behind me. smelling like alcohol isn't probable cause to enter a vehicle you're neither driving, sitting inside, nor behind the wheel of. helps to carry a spare door key. this also works if you're carrying "things", just keep it in the trunk and be as paranoid as a narc.

if they sneak up on you or the car is in an odd location (private property, illegally parked, etc) forget about it

[Piff]

AP classes? ACT? DUI?

So which branch of business do you plan on majoring in?

environmental science. debating a few years of law school so that i could be a faggot ass whiteknight for all the people getting the short end of the stick while these big companies make bank off of bogus ass bills allowing them to do whatever the fuck they want regardless of the harm it's doing to the environment.

[Slathar]

environmental science. debating a few years of law school so that i could be a faggot ass whiteknight for all the people getting the short end of the stick while these big companies make bank off of bogus ass bills allowing them to do whatever the fuck they want regardless of the harm it's doing to the environment.

Yeah it's a good thing there are people out there to defend the environment from faggots.

[Hailto]

No sympathy for idiots who get DUIs, if you want to do something dangerous, get drunk and put a loaded gun in your mouth. No excuse for endangering other people who aren't part of your own stupidity.

[Piff]

No sympathy for idiots who get DUIs, if you want to do something dangerous, get drunk and put a loaded gun in your mouth. No excuse for endangering other people who aren't part of your own stupidity.

forsure bro. your logic is impeccable.

[Hailto]

forsure bro. your logic is impeccable.

I know, it certainly doesn't compare with trying to get in a car and drive off while drunk, with cops around, like you did. But I try, I still don't have any DUIs yet so i have some catching up to do with you.

[Feachie]

No sympathy for idiots who get DUIs, if you want to do something dangerous, get drunk and put a loaded gun in your mouth. No excuse for endangering other people who aren't part of your own stupidity.

dui != behind the wheel. also he is under 21, so even .001 BAC is over the limit. don't act like you know how much he had been drinking.

i suggest to anybody who has made up their mind to break the law on a regular basis to at least know your rights and educate yourselves on our legal system, because it's fucked up and confusing.

[Piff]

I know, it certainly doesn't compare with trying to get in a car and drive off while drunk, with cops around, like you did. But I try, I still don't have any DUIs yet so i have some catching up to do with you.

lmao. don't get mad bro, just relax. your "better-than-me" stance isn't very effective over the internet. go log on your character and jack off to the human female models brah. with love<3

[Hailto]

lmao. don't get mad bro, just relax. your "better-than-me" stance isn't very effective over the internet. go log on your character and jack off to the human female models brah. with love<3

I ain't even mad. Woodelf bitches ftw though.

[Tarathiel]

smoke pot if u want, but don't kid urself that it:

-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-is safe to use
-is more healthy than alcohol
-doesn't support the wholesale slaughter of mexican civilians
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation


edit- don't get me wrong, i think the use of federal resources to raid pot farms and imprison stoners is a laughable waste of resources, but that doesn't mean that pots good/okay

you sir, are an idiot

[Prince]

dui != behind the wheel. also he is under 21, so even .001 BAC is over the limit. don't act like you know how much he had been drinking.
.


not true, in a ton of states for under-21s the limit is .02 to allow for nyquil, etc

[Prince]

also, to piffen- sounds like a sweet career plan. i hear now is an awesome time to be entering the workforce as a lawyer

[Feachie]

not true, in a ton of states for under-21s the limit is .02 to allow for nyquil, etc

oops, added an extra 0. it's .01 bac for minors, .08 for "adults"

[Piff]

also, to piffen- sounds like a sweet career plan. i hear now is an awesome time to be entering the workforce as a lawyer

that's a backup plan at best. my current aspirations are towards working to help businesses and companies find alternative ways to work things so that they damage the environment less. i'd love to be a business consultant whos job it was to aid them in becoming more environmentally conscious. there's always a simpler/safer way to do/create alot of the things the market is flooded withthese days. out with the old in with the new.

[deakolt]

^ everybody wants to go into environmental studies these days... way too hipster imo

[Feachie]

that's just where the money will be at in a few years :)

[Piff]

everybody wants to go into environmental studies these days.

and i'm glad. look at the current state of our planet, our resources are fading, economies falling a part. all because we've turned into a materialistic hate machine. buy and ipad, upgrade to ipad 2 in two months and trash all of the toxic chemicals that went into making the first one. nintendo comes out with a new system every ~18 months.

we don't need to move forward, we need to take a few steps back and look at the mess we've made.

[deakolt]

and i'm glad. look at the current state of our planet, our resources are fading, economies falling a part. all because we've turned into a materialistic hate machine. buy and ipad, upgrade to ipad 2 in two months and trash all of the toxic chemicals that went into making the first one. nintendo comes out with a new system every ~18 months.

we don't need to move forward, we need to take a few steps back and look at the mess we've made.

I agree completely actually... Definitely hope I can use my CS degree to further environmental & social awareness/change somehow. Just not quite sure how yet

[Kalifa]

ignorance at its finest, glad to see americas future pharmacists so well educated.

what's ignorant about saying scopolamine will fuck you up. someone started talking about things you should never do under any circumstances, so i mentioned it. wasn't recommending it by any means

[JayDee]

I recommend whatever drug made naez into that maniacal villain

[Prince]

meth

[Prince]

that's a backup plan at best. my current aspirations are towards working to help businesses and companies find alternative ways to work things so that they damage the environment less. i'd love to be a business consultant whos job it was to aid them in becoming more environmentally conscious. there's always a simpler/safer way to do/create alot of the things the market is flooded withthese days. out with the old in with the new.

just in case there was some confusion, i was being sarcastic. now is pretty much the worst time in modern history to be entering the workforce as a lawyer, and its pretty much only going to get worse from here

[purist]

just in case there was some confusion, i was being sarcastic. now is pretty much the worst time in modern history to be entering the workforce as a lawyer, and its pretty much only going to get worse from here

just in case there was some confusion we understood you were being sarcastic but all ignored you because nobody cares about your opinion, glad to clear that up for you

[Knuckle]

and i'm glad. look at the current state of our planet, our resources are fading, economies falling a part. all because we've turned into a materialistic hate machine. buy and ipad, upgrade to ipad 2 in two months and trash all of the toxic chemicals that went into making the first one. nintendo comes out with a new system every ~18 months.

we don't need to move forward, we need to take a few steps back and look at the mess we've made.

i agree.

[Prince]

just in case there was some confusion we understood you were being sarcastic but all ignored you because nobody cares about your opinion, glad to clear that up for you

just in case there was some confusion it wasn't my opinion, it's da facts

[purist]

well, i know you have a record of citing highly credible sources like a random guys' opinion in a blog entry on blogs.ddetox.com so i believe you

[Prince]

??????

[purist]

http://blog.ddetox.com/2007/09/14/which-is-worse-alcohol-or-marijuana/

[Doors]

Drugs are fucking stupid. Some good friends i had are gone now because of them. If you wanna sit here and argue about cannabis being safe blah blah blah medical uses go ahead you're only kidding yourself either that or you're just another dumbass teenager that doesn't know shit about life.

Weed eventually leads you down the road to future problems. Mostly other scumbag that introduce you to harder drugs. Either way this country doesn't need another substance legalized.

[JayDee]

we'd be lucky if all of them died like your friends. Instead, most of them go on welfare and the fortunate ones who have worked satisfying the minimum requirements are collecting unemployment. Stupid low income whores shooting out babies like a gatling gun.

Cut 90% of all social programming and let all of the druggies and stupid people die off like they're suppose to.

That's my take on things

[Harrison]

Drugs are fucking stupid. Some good friends i had are gone now because of them. If you wanna sit here and argue about cannabis being safe blah blah blah medical uses go ahead you're only kidding yourself either that or you're just another dumbass teenager that doesn't know shit about life.

Weed eventually leads you down the road to future problems. Mostly other scumbag that introduce you to harder drugs. Either way this country doesn't need another substance legalized.

I don't smoke, but if you're trying to say weed is the problem rather than the tool without self-control, you are....lawl worthy.

[JenJen]

piff young ecowarrior? dig your style

[Piff]

drugs are an acquired taste. everyone reacts differently. i know a handful of GOOD kids that ended up in bad situations as soon as they hit college. hell i've got a friend who landed a 32 on his ACT but never managed to go to college due to alcoholism. thankfully he was accepted into southern illonois university this year. unfortunately the drinking has failed to cease.

there's nothing wrong with drugs that do not build up chemical dependencies. sadly that only holds true for those of us whom haven't addictive personalities. not sure why i'm awake so early, i think this hangover just couldn't wait to wake me up and have me feeling groggy.

good morning p99, please share more stories friends.

[Messianic]

Weed eventually leads you down the road to future problems. Mostly other scumbag that introduce you to harder drugs. Either way this country doesn't need another substance legalized.

Most people who argue for legalization (it's more accurate to say "de-criminalization," since the actual political act would remove federal law against weed and let the states regulate it as they see fit) aren't saying these things aren't partially true - but rehabilitation for people who use weed is better handled outside the prison system, especially when so few weed smokers are really violent offenders before incarceration. The cost of having federal agencies and states being forced to police weed (i.e. states having to fight the feds to get it legalized and having the feds trying to overrule their legalization of it, although this is less true under the Obama admin) is greater than the cost of just letting people smoke it if they want to and letting states/charitable organizations and localities deal with rehab, etc...

Drug wars don't work unless the Drug is particularly virulent or destructive, i.e. Heroine, cocaine, etc - and even then it's questionable.

Banning weed is really no different than alcohol prohibition (except worse) - and no one can describe that experience in other terms than an abject failure and a waste of resources.

[visage]

All the time. I have prescriptions to a lot. As far as illegal drugs. Well not anymore. Tho one day I will do E again one day...

[Seaweedpimp]

Banning weed is really no different than alcohol prohibition (except worse) - and no one can describe that experience in other terms than an abject failure and a waste of resources.

[visage]

Banning weed is really no different than alcohol prohibition (except worse) - and no one can describe that experience in other terms than an abject failure and a waste of resources.

Maybe its a age thing , but most the people I encounter that smoke weed. Are some of the most idiotic people. It is like social conditioning for the youth. Smoke weed , dedicate your free time and encouraging others its great. If you really want to go all out listen to reggae, express how everything is so much better. Point out responsible people on weed etc. I'm not saying it shouldn't be illegal. I just wish society would move on to better things. I for one can say Cocaine is a much more fun.

*edited in* Furthermore, it reminds me of gay people. Being gay is one thing , but making your primary focus on being gay is another. Responsible homos don't have to say they are gay all the time , let alone act like a feministic woman. One could say this could be the same with weed. Responsible on weed? Is it possible?

[Chippy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUqpLvmMkpg

[Polixenes]

My drug story - I used to like the smell of petrol stations so I would wind down the window while Dad filled the tank.

Other than that, 3 puffs of a joint would be my estimate of my lifetime illicit drug consumption.

Not that I had a deliberately sheltered life, just none of my friends were ever into anything more racy than a few pints of lager on a Friday night.

[Harrison]

Nothing I hate more than a pothead that doesn't shut the fuck up about it, puts 420 in their online names for games, etc.

[Prince]

there's nothing wrong with drugs that do not build up chemical dependencies.

pretty blatantly untrue

[Popt]

drugs are an acquired taste. everyone reacts differently. i know a handful of GOOD kids that ended up in bad situations as soon as they hit college. hell i've got a friend who landed a 32 on his ACT but never managed to go to college due to alcoholism. thankfully he was accepted into southern illonois university this year. unfortunately the drinking has failed to cease.

Hate to say it, but SIU won't help with his drinking problem, unless you are talking about SIU-Edwardsville and not Carbondale

[Knuckle]

Pretty sure habitual use of bleach as a non chemically dependant drug will still result in a rapid, excrutiatingly painful death from internal bleeding and organ rot.

[Piff]

Hate to say it, but SIU won't help with his drinking problem, unless you are talking about SIU-Edwardsville and not Carbondale

i totally agree.i'm a bit worried about attending iowa next year (went from #9 to #4) last year party school wise. while it isn't an ideal learning environment, i'm sure i'll survive just fine in my time spent there.

[Knuckle]

No matter what school you go to there's plenty of room to fuck up or party too much, what you want to do with college is entirely up to you.

[Piff]

No matter what school you go to there's plenty of room to fuck up or party too much, what you want to do with college is entirely up to you.

exactly. mind over brews, bros.

[WizardEQ]

hell i've got a friend who landed a 32 on his ACT but never managed to go to college due to alcoholism. thankfully he was accepted into southern illinois university this year. unfortunately the drinking has failed to cease.

Already at this point in his life, your friend is definitely an alcoholic and needs help badly. He'll be lucky to finish college (my bet is he won't), let alone get a job that will support him. Intervention is a tough option. Usually the better you are as a friend, the harder it is to approach him. Get someone else or a group to do it. He'll be better for it and you'll have a settled conscience. My wife and I have seen way to many "good" friends die tragically because of alcohol.

On a scale of 1-10 with respect to this post, I'm probably a 0. I had the occasional drink in college. A friend (girl) bought me 3 drinks when I turned 21. I've never tried a cigarette even though I enjoy a nice cigar once in a while on a balmy night with a scotch. I've never tried any type of drug, except for an Advil or Motrin.

[Doogal]

They're all fun, haven't tried one that I didn't or couldn't have a great time with/on.

[EkireiTheNecro]

Hey babe i got too many DUIs and lost my liscence...can I get a ride home?

[EkireiTheNecro]

Drugs are fucking stupid. Some good friends i had are gone now because of them. If you wanna sit here and argue about cannabis being safe blah blah blah medical uses go ahead you're only kidding yourself either that or you're just another dumbass teenager that doesn't know shit about life.

Weed eventually leads you down the road to future problems. Mostly other scumbag that introduce you to harder drugs. Either way this country doesn't need another substance legalized.

Not my fault that your friends couldn't control their drug use...not my problem either.

I've been smokin pot every day for about 15 years -- minus about 2 years in the middle. During that time I went through a lot of shit and ended becoming a hardcore alcoholic.

I was literally drinking myself to death. I would stop for a month at a time sometimes, but could never stop for good.

That is....til I started smoking weed again. I quit drinking within 3 days, and haven't had a beer since then.

Did weed lead me to alcohol? I don't think so. I was drinking booze probably 2 years before I ever tried pot for the 1st time. If anything it's the other way around....alcohol led me to weed.

If you wanna sit around and DENY the medical benefits of cannabis YOU can go ahead; you're only kidding YOURSELF.

If someone is terminally ill with cancer, and using marijuana / magic mushrooms causes them to abandon their fear of death, who the FUCK are YOU to tell them they can't?

Read up on studies that have been done in the past decade involving magic mushrooms and terminally ill patients -- maybe it will open your mind to the fact that not all drugs are bad -- they're only considered bad because they've been labeled "drugs"

[Knuckle]

LSD was certainly an enjoyable experience, a state of extreme mental awareness and wit was my take on it. Easy to get distracted by the warping images if you focus on your surroundings, however.

[Stickyfingers]

LSD was certainly an enjoyable experience, a state of extreme mental awareness and wit was my take on it. Easy to get distracted by the warping images if you focus on your surroundings, however.

Only bad part about acid. Is the "Mind Fuck" where your conversation with someone ends up going in a circle and you end up where you started, with no clue of how you did it. Other than that, Acid rocks, so much more clean than Mushrooms. Plus, you can eat and do whatever while your on it.

Also, I feel safe because as long as you have an Anti-depressant handy, you can stop the trip at any time and after 10+ times I have never had a bad trip.

[Piff]

Already at this point in his life, your friend is definitely an alcoholic and needs help badly. He'll be lucky to finish college (my bet is he won't), let alone get a job that will support him. Intervention is a tough option. Usually the better you are as a friend, the harder it is to approach him. Get someone else or a group to do it. He'll be better for it and you'll have a settled conscience. My wife and I have seen way to many "good" friends die tragically because of alcohol.

On a scale of 1-10 with respect to this post, I'm probably a 0. I had the occasional drink in college. A friend (girl) bought me 3 drinks when I turned 21. I've never tried a cigarette even though I enjoy a nice cigar once in a while on a balmy night with a scotch. I've never tried any type of drug, except for an Advil or Motrin.

speculation my friend.. speculation. anyways stories are looking good. mainly just a "i'm better than Soandso because i don't do drugs" thread so far but not bad!

[Piff]

Hey babe i got too many DUIs and lost my liscence...can I get a ride home?

are you THAT guy that no one knows who makes terrible jokes?

sup

[Knuckle]

Only bad part about acid. Is the "Mind Fuck" where your conversation with someone ends up going in a circle and you end up where you started, with no clue of how you did it. Other than that, Acid rocks, so much more clean than Mushrooms. Plus, you can eat and do whatever while your on it.

Also, I feel safe because as long as you have an Anti-depressant handy, you can stop the trip at any time and after 10+ times I have never had a bad trip.

I believe that may have to do with short term memory loss, I'm familiar with 'loops' as you call them. The worst part as a rookie acid user is if you start to question how you are acting around the other people on acid, can be quite an interesting case of introspective paranoia.

[deakolt]

I believe that may have to do with short term memory loss, I'm familiar with 'loops' as you call them. The worst part as a rookie acid user is if you start to question how you are acting around the other people on acid, can be quite an interesting case of introspective paranoia.

I agree, I'd even say generally that's the worst part about psychedelics in general.

That's why I always recommend to new users to only do them around people you are very comfortable with-

[Farkle]

opiates here, my grandmother got me hooked when she would give me lortab for minor headaches, lol...

I hurt my back in '06 and was on lortabs from 09 to about three months ago.

While i no longer have the withdrawls from the first few weeks of getting off of them, i do long for them and will take them if i ever get a chance.

my tolerance was way to high for them however. When you can take 5 lortab 10 pills at once 3 to 4 times a day and function completely normally it is time to stop.

I did not stop however because i felt i had an addiction omg i need to stop taking them, i stopped because it was no longer beneficial (read: taking so many to get that feeling again), it just wasnt worth it. not to mention the amount of tylenol on those things will kick your liver in the arse, good thing i am not a drinker.

so to fill the void i now work out for 2 hours a day at the gym with a friend of mine instead of sitting in front of the computer playing whatever MMO is out there. i play p99 at most 3 hours on sat while i am grouped with a ton of friends, or randomly for 1 hour max. with two jobs, 4 kids, and a wife i really dont have time.

either way, using whatever substance or doing whatever activity, is really all just a base instinct to get your brain to fire off that chemical that makes you happy. So what works for you as long as it doesnt harm anyone around you is what i prescribe to.

[Knuckle]

opiates here, my grandmother got me hooked when she would give me lortab for minor headaches, lol...

I hurt my back in '06 and was on lortabs from 09 to about three months ago.

While i no longer have the withdrawls from the first few weeks of getting off of them, i do long for them and will take them if i ever get a chance.

my tolerance was way to high for them however. When you can take 5 lortab 10 pills at once 3 to 4 times a day and function completely normally it is time to stop.

I did not stop however because i felt i had an addiction omg i need to stop taking them, i stopped because it was no longer beneficial (read: taking so many to get that feeling again), it just wasnt worth it. not to mention the amount of tylenol on those things will kick your liver in the arse, good thing i am not a drinker.

so to fill the void i now work out for 2 hours a day at the gym with a friend of mine instead of sitting in front of the computer playing whatever MMO is out there. i play p99 at most 3 hours on sat while i am grouped with a ton of friends, or randomly for 1 hour max. with two jobs, 4 kids, and a wife i really dont have time.

either way, using whatever substance or doing whatever activity, is really all just a base instinct to get your brain to fire off that chemical that makes you happy. So what works for you as long as it doesnt harm anyone around you is what i prescribe to.

Yeah I find a similar effect from plucking strands of grass and weaving them into an elven crown.

[Prince]

Not my fault that your friends couldn't control their drug use...not my problem either.

I've been smokin pot every day for about 15 years -- minus about 2 years in the middle. During that time I went through a lot of shit and ended becoming a hardcore alcoholic.

I was literally drinking myself to death. I would stop for a month at a time sometimes, but could never stop for good.

That is....til I started smoking weed again. I quit drinking within 3 days, and haven't had a beer since then.

Did weed lead me to alcohol? I don't think so. I was drinking booze probably 2 years before I ever tried pot for the 1st time. If anything it's the other way around....alcohol led me to weed.

If you wanna sit around and DENY the medical benefits of cannabis YOU can go ahead; you're only kidding YOURSELF.

If someone is terminally ill with cancer, and using marijuana / magic mushrooms causes them to abandon their fear of death, who the FUCK are YOU to tell them they can't?

Read up on studies that have been done in the past decade involving magic mushrooms and terminally ill patients -- maybe it will open your mind to the fact that not all drugs are bad -- they're only considered bad because they've been labeled "drugs"


http://www.addictiontreatmentmagazine.com/addiction-treatment/recovery-tips/substitute-addictions-how-to-recognize-and-deal-with-them/

[naez]

idk everything besides crack rock and crazy designer drugs but nothing in recent years besides your standard shrooms/weed/malt liquor


the hardest to quit was nicotine


i would do some fat scarface lines atm

[Knuckle]

literally everything besides actual crack rock and crazy designer drugs


the hardest to quit was nicotine

I remember reading some stories on shit like 2ce and stuff like that...so sad watching people guinea pig this shit could be frying their brain.

So you've dabbled in the witch's brew eh? :eek:

[naez]

ive shot death bro

[Prince]

and by death u mean meth

[deakolt]

good scanner darkly reference

[nalkin]

I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, drink coffee, or take pain medication. I like to live life true and pure. People should be forced to live life in the true state not a fake one. Personally I wish alcohol was illegal (since same logic should be used as weed). Funny how people get so passionate about something so trivial though.

[EkireiTheNecro]

are you THAT guy that no one knows who makes terrible jokes?

sup


I believe you've confused me with Slathar.

[Bardalicious]

I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, drink coffee, or take pain medication. I like to live life true and pure. People should be forced to live life in the true state not a fake one. Personally I wish alcohol was illegal (since same logic should be used as weed). Funny how people get so passionate about something so trivial though.

Meaning you think that pain medication should be banned and people with such pleasantries as terminal cancer should have to live out the rest of their days in excruciating pain?

Gotcha.

Excuse me for a sec while I go parachute this 30mg Roxi.

[Piff]

Meaning you think that pain medication should be banned and people with such pleasantries as terminal cancer should have to live out the rest of their days in excruciating pain?

Gotcha.

Excuse me for a sec while I go parachute this 30mg Roxi.

he was obv troll. u slow.

[Bardalicious]

he was obv troll. u slow.

You still haven't caught on to the game of basketball I see.

P.S. got that twitter feed set up for your bluebie kills yet?

[Piff]

You still haven't caught on to the game of basketball I see.

P.S. got that twitter feed set up for your bluebie kills yet?

bardalicious red in the face. post your mad face in RL pic thread lol.

[Bardalicious]

bardalicious red in the face. post your mad face in RL pic thread lol.

Too angered to type or operate a camera atm, sorry pal. Maybe later.

[WizardEQ]

... People should be forced to live life in the true state not a fake one...

And you say "I" judge others?

This was the philosophy of the Nazis a few decades ago. How'd that work out?

[visage]

I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, drink coffee, or take pain medication. I like to live life true and pure. People should be forced to live life in the true state not a fake one. Personally I wish alcohol was illegal (since same logic should be used as weed). Funny how people get so passionate about something so trivial though.

Is this why your a miserable little shrew that plays Everquest?

[Bodeanicus]

Alcohol, weed, cocaine, meth, LSD, mushrooms, GHB, ecstasy, various legal painkillers. Never did heroin or PCP. Glad those days are over.

[jarshale]

smoke pot if u want, but don't kid urself that it:

-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-is safe to use
-is more healthy than alcohol
-doesn't support the wholesale slaughter of mexican civilians
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation

edit- don't get me wrong, i think the use of federal resources to raid pot farms and imprison stoners is a laughable waste of resources, but that doesn't mean that pots good/okay

But weed is all I've done for 2 years now.. Never had the urge to try anything else. Idk about the addictive part. Smoking anything is bad. Vaporizing though has almost no negative impacts. Also, seeing as how weed doesn't destroy your organs, I would say much healthier than alcohol. I also buy from a guy who grows his own. No ties to the mexican cartels there. Only one of those that's true for me is the lazy part.

[EkireiTheNecro]

I'm smokin a bowl right now.

[alexandervaccaro]

Is this why your a miserable little shrew that plays Everquest?

heehe zinger if i ever saw one

[Ektar]

one of my students just put on his facebook that I taught him step by step how to make pot brownies. facebook will be the end of my career >.<

[Messianic]

play everquest if u want, but don't kid urself that it:

-is not a gateway drug
-is not addictive
-doesn't make u lazy/squash motivation

[Loke]

Weed. A while ago. Even though it shouldn't be considered a drug.

Azeth will back me up on this.

Nothing should be an illegal drug..

...though it is manifest that [using drugs]* is an injurious exercise of faculties, it is by no means manifest how much work is proper for us, and when work becomes detrimental; it is by no means manifest where lies the line between due and undue intellectual activity; it is by no means manifest what amount of advantage will justify a man in submitting to unsuitable climate and mode of life; and yet in each of these cases happiness is at stake, and the wrong course is wrong for the same reason that [drug use] is so... Here, then, are cases in which men's liberties must not be limited by the necessity of not inflicting pain on themselves; seeing that it cannot be so limited without as suspension of our approach to greatest happiness.

*the original text is discussing alcohol instead of illegal drugs, but the sentiment is the same.

Also, shameless Ron Paul 2012 plug - you drug users need to check him out and you dems out there disenfranchised with your boy Obama need to hop on the RP band wagon too!

[Messianic]

shameless Ron Paul 2012 plug

I'll join Loke on this.

[Bardalicious]

Nothing should be an illegal drug..

Also, shameless Ron Paul 2012 plug - you drug users need to check him out and you dems out there disenfranchised with your boy Obama need to hop on the RP band wagon too!

Hopping on the bandwagon!

[Prince]

But weed is all I've done for 2 years now.. Never had the urge to try anything else. Idk about the addictive part. Smoking anything is bad. Vaporizing though has almost no negative impacts. Also, seeing as how weed doesn't destroy your organs, I would say much healthier than alcohol. I also buy from a guy who grows his own. No ties to the mexican cartels there. Only one of those that's true for me is the lazy part.

i have smoked weed daily for the past 2 years but i am pretty sure it is not addictive ok ????

[Loke]

I'm pretty sure there is science to back up that weed is not physically addictive, however, as anyone who has quit smoking cigarettes can tell you, mental addiction is way harder to break. Anyone who doesn't think weed is mentally addictive is.... well, on drugs I guess.

edit: I'm not saying that is a bad thing - there are a ton of every day things people do that are mentally addictive. Just saying that to claim there is no aspect of addiction with pot is pretty silly.

[visage]

Why do more fat people smoke weed than skinny people?

[Loke]

Why do more fat people smoke weed than skinny people?

Is this a serious statement or some sort of set-up for a joke? O_o

[visage]

Is this a serious statement or some sort of set-up for a joke? O_o

Damn right its serius. People need to be serius about their health. FAT PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME!!! GET OFF THE WEED!!!!!

[Shannacore]

super serius

[visage]

super serius

^^^^ SEE

[Bardalicious]

i have smoked weed daily for the past 2 years but i am pretty sure it is not addictive ok ????

I don't have a problem, u have a problem! I can stop any time... *puffs* any time I want I just.. *puffs* I just dont want to OK??

[EkireiTheNecro]

Pickin up a nice ounce of some NYC Diesel after work today.

Good deal @ $275

http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachments/harvesting-drying-storage/246959d1220281585-sour-diesel-crucial-cure-goodness.jpg

[EkireiTheNecro]

That shit'll take you to heaven for a few hours.

[Bardalicious]

Pickin up a nice ounce of some NYC Diesel after work today.

Physically going to buy drugs is like so 5 years ago. Get with the times, and with the internet.

[EkireiTheNecro]

Physically going to buy drugs is like so 5 years ago. Get with the times, and with the internet.

Lol. My guy rides a bike around the city all day with a backpack full of weed.

Usually we meet down at the park - but if I wan't an Oz. or more I gotta goto him.

[EkireiTheNecro]

And seriously....anyone who smokes some REAL Sour Diesel is guaranteed to start enjoying marijuana.

[Bardalicious]

I prefer the vast variety, anonymity and general lack of risk of having a gun in your face while using the internet. :D

[Feachie]

I prefer the vast variety, anonymity and general lack of risk of having a gun in your face while using the internet. :D

i go to a store to get my tree. if you like large variety i'll take a picture of the inside of one sometime and make you trip out. :)

nicest one i go to has two display cases full of 2 quart mason jars full of trimmed, beautiful buds, all different varieties. probably 30-40 strains. they sell clones and seeds, hash/kief, edibles (cookies, brownies, candy bars, glycerine drops) and all kinds of stuff.

[Haul]

And seriously....anyone who smokes some REAL Sour Diesel is guaranteed to start enjoying marijuana.

Sour Diesel is seriously amazing, I have to agree.

[Bardalicious]

i go to a store to get my tree. if you like large variety i'll take a picture of the inside of one sometime and make you trip out. :)

nicest one i go to has two display cases full of 2 quart mason jars full of trimmed, beautiful buds, all different varieties. probably 30-40 strains. they sell clones and seeds, hash/kief, edibles (cookies, brownies, candy bars, glycerine drops) and all kinds of stuff.

If you have the fortune of living in Cali, I agree, there is no finer place to buy than one of those stores. I am mad envious ;)

Though the place I use has close to the same variety + other... products so to speak.

WTB trip to cali :cool:

[jarshale]

i have smoked weed daily for the past 2 years but i am pretty sure it is not addictive ok ????

Oh god I'm getting trolled but I keep responding WHY?
I never said I smoked daily.

[Fourthmeal]

I get high on life

[Fourthmeal]

Think outside the drugs

[Bardalicious]

I get high on life

Not nearly as fun.

And in other news. I'm high as fuck. What up bitches.

Mega euphoria taking over mah body.

[Fourthmeal]

Not nearly as fun.

And in other news. I'm high as fuck. What up bitches.

Mega euphoria taking over mah body.

/auction WTB weed pst

[visage]

I get high on life


Its possible to build up a resistance to it tho

[Fourthmeal]

think outside the bun

[Bardalicious]

/auction WTB weed pst

How about some medical grade:

Popcorn OG Kush
Fire OG Kush
Sour Diesel
Platinum OG
Lavender

Or how about some:

Northern Lights
White Widow
Blue Dream
Super Silver
Grand Daddy Purple
Bubba Kush
Kryptonite Kush
Hawaiian Snow
Agent Orange
Purple Rhino
Blueberry Bud
Lemon Skunk
White Berry
Black Berry

Or perhaps you prefer:
Hash Oil
Half or Full Bubble Melt
Cookies, Lozenges, Rice Crispies, Brownies etc


God damn, I'm getting myself all excited.

[Fourthmeal]

I only got 20 plat... so just hook me up

[Bardalicious]

I only got 20 plat... so just hook me up

For that I'll let you sniff a bag? Lol :D

Bring me over a crunchy taco 12 pack I'll light you up!

[visage]

For that I'll let you sniff a bag? Lol :D

Bring me over a crunchy taco 12 pack I'll light you up!

Obesity in America.

[Fourthmeal]

For that I'll let you sniff a bag? Lol :D

Bring me over a crunchy taco 12 pack I'll light you up!

Sshhh, if you advertise the taco 12 pack Guineapig will ban you. I KNOW

[Bardalicious]

Sshhh, if you advertise the taco 12 pack Guineapig will ban you. I KNOW

What a party pooper :(

It's a box full of TACO BLISS. How can that make anyone angry?!

[Fourthmeal]

What a party pooper :(

It's a box full of TACO BLISS. How can that make anyone angry?!

/agree

[Prince]

u ppl make me SICK

[KB_Trader]

I've done pretty much every mainstream drug there is save ketamine. 16-18 were my cocaine and ecstasy days. 18-20 I was doing a lot of hallucinogens, LSD and various phenethylamines like 2c-i and 2c-e mainly. 20 I was introduced to heroin and I've been doing that on and off since. Heroin or dilaudid would be my drug of choice, but I still very much enjoy various hallucinogens, particularly the phenethylamines previously mentioned.

[KB_Trader]

Bump cuz drugs are jawesome

[Azmere]

Prince people like you make me lol by having such strong opinions when I doubt you've ever even tried marijuana.

I've smoked,ate,vaporized weed for five ish years. However multiple times within those five years I've had to stop to pass a drug test for a job, decided to take a break, or been active in sports (highschool). Each time I've been able to just stop often still having some buds laying around. Just quitting is something most people cannot do with a large variety of other "drugs" legal and illegal.

I've tried plenty of drugs cocaine, shrooms, ecstasy, legal opiates etc. However, the first "drug" I ever tried was alcohol so is it therefore a gateway drug? I use the term tried because I didn't care for any "harder drugs," marijuana is what i most enjoy.

Do some actual research not a blog and you'll quickly realize many more deaths at least concerning latin america, have been the result of United States Coffee and Banana consumption.

The lead researcher who used to say marijuana was cancer causing has in the last two years reversed his statement actually saying marijuana is probably decreasing cancer. Sorry I'm sure you'll exclaim lack of resource but I don't care enough to dig it up for you. I also know several older people (former marijuana haters) who have recently given up their perscribed opiates for back pain etc in favor of medical marijuana and prefer it way more citing the biggest plus as still easing the pain while not being so drugged up when on legal opiates.

Finally I'm 21 live with a wonderful girl and two cats, will be finishing my double major undergrad next spring, and will hopefully be attending law school next year (168 on the LSATS). By the way most job fields suck right now and just because you go into law doesn't just make you a lawyer there is a bit more too it and law is a diverse field.

[Bardalicious]

Prince people like you make me lol by having such strong opinions when I doubt you've ever even tried marijuana.

I've smoked,ate,vaporized weed for five ish years. However multiple times within those five years I've had to stop to pass a drug test for a job, decided to take a break, or been active in sports (highschool). Each time I've been able to just stop often still having some buds laying around. Just quitting is something most people cannot do with a large variety of other "drugs" legal and illegal.

I've tried plenty of drugs cocaine, shrooms, ecstasy, legal opiates etc. However, the first "drug" I ever tried was alcohol so is it therefore a gateway drug? I use the term tried because I didn't care for any "harder drugs," marijuana is what i most enjoy.

Do some actual research not a blog and you'll quickly realize many more deaths at least concerning latin america, have been the result of United States Coffee and Banana consumption.

The lead researcher who used to say marijuana was cancer causing has in the last two years reversed his statement actually saying marijuana is probably decreasing cancer. Sorry I'm sure you'll exclaim lack of resource but I don't care enough to dig it up for you. I also know several older people (former marijuana haters) who have recently given up their perscribed opiates for back pain etc in favor of medical marijuana and prefer it way more citing the biggest plus as still easing the pain while not being so drugged up when on legal opiates.

Finally I'm 21 live with a wonderful girl and two cats, will be finishing my double major undergrad next spring, and will hopefully be attending law school next year (168 on the LSATS). By the way most job fields suck right now and just because you go into law doesn't just make you a lawyer there is a bit more too it and law is a diverse field.



This sounds like a man that is perfectly content with his life while enjoying the fine recreation that is drug use. I give you +1 for the post and another +1 for the gonzo journalism avatar.

[Seaweedpimp]

Could only read 1.5 pages before i said fuck this, mongoloids.

[Seaweedpimp]

u ppl make me SICK

And youre the biggest moron in the thread. Grats.

[Fourthmeal]

Just snorted a line of fire sauce

[Shannacore]

Someone handed me a vaporizer bag this weekend I said, "NO!", I scoffed, flipped my hair back, then continued to sip on my gross homemade martini.

[Piff]

didnt think this would get pages. and too zombie mode to read them. i'm drinking some wine right now, a 2008 vina robles cabernet sauvignon. damn that was hard to spell. but yeah. i dropped two lorazepam before work and three after. (worked from 12-330) closed for weather.

[Shannacore]

Oh I got a "Tralina highly fuckable" tag.

u guyz, im blushing.

[Piff]

Oh I got a "Tralina highly fuckable" tag.

u guyz, im blushing.

forum bithcez dereailin' my thread. scram, buster.

[Pico]

i just IV'd dr. pepper

told u i was hardcore

[purist]

my impression of all of you

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3384/1279929002293.png

[Slathar]

my impression of all of you

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3384/1279929002293.png

hahahahahahahaha

[Pico]

funniest shit i've seen in awhile

[Doors]

hahahaha

[Piff]

less old 420chan garbage. more stories about you nerds mainlining heroin plz.

[EkireiTheNecro]

I'm smokin a bowl right now.

Also...makin myself a Marijuamlette for dinner. Probably a side of pasta tossed with some cannaoil pesto.

Gonna be baked for like a good 5 hours straight I reckon.

One of my dreams is to open a "marijuana restaurant" if weed is ever fully legalized in NY (I have a culinary degree.) I imagine it would be a gold mine.

[EkireiTheNecro]

i go to a store to get my tree. if you like large variety i'll take a picture of the inside of one sometime and make you trip out. :)

nicest one i go to has two display cases full of 2 quart mason jars full of trimmed, beautiful buds, all different varieties. probably 30-40 strains. they sell clones and seeds, hash/kief, edibles (cookies, brownies, candy bars, glycerine drops) and all kinds of stuff.


It's funny cuz I live in Upstate NY....but my dealer's place is pretty much like a dispensary. Last time I was there a few days ago he had 5 timberland-style shoeboxes each with a different strain.

Plus he grows his own and/or buys DIRECTLY from growers so I always know what I'm getting.

Most of our Diesel comes up from NYC ... usually once every 6 months (middle of summer and middle of winter)

OH AND VERMONT JUST LEGALIZED MEDICAL USE -- HERE'S HOPING NY ISN'T HE *LAST* STATE TO DO IT. Of all states that could use the fucking tax revenues, NY is at the top.

[Fourthmeal]

Someone handed me a vaporizer bag this weekend I said, "NO!", I scoffed, flipped my hair back, then continued to sip on my gross homemade martini.

Why didn't you take it?

[Feachie]

forum bithcez dereailin' my thread. scram, buster.

a sad post was quoted in order for your post to exist.

[Piff]

http://i.imgur.com/w5TSe.gif

[eastadam55]

http://i.imgur.com/w5TSe.gif

That your cousin?

[quido]

Is ketamine mainstream now? I remember it was sort of emerging as a club drug a few years ago, but I sort of figured that most people had no idea how to grasp its full potential. I know people like getting a little stumbly/faded, but your average drug user has no interest in the sort of mindfuck that accompanies an unadulterated k-hole.

Six years ago I was living with some friends in a borderline neighborhood; we'd throw parties on the weekends and have a free keg and smoke a bunch of weed and every once in a while we'd buy a few grams of ketamine and just have it there for people who wanted to go down that road. So anyways, the neighborhood I lived in was altogether decent, but there was three generations of some seriously hood black people living right next door. This 60-year-old lady/drunk/formercrackhead stole my friend's girlfriend's purse while hanging out on the porch one night and we had to recover its contents by busting into their house and looking around; my buddy finally recovered the last important piece by yoinking the girl's cellphone from between grandma's tits. So anyways, a couple of the guys were pretty cool and not really sketchy (imo) and they'd come over and party a little and shoot dice and stuff. One of these nights happened to be when we had a tray of ketamine floating around. So this guy thinks it's coke at first and we explain to him that it isn't cocaine, it's something that will fuck you up totally different and that it doesn't take much. He replies "***** I'm from Detroit, you don't know how we do it down thurr," and proceeds to lay himself out a huge chalker. I wasn't about to argue, lol, so he takes it down in one fell swoop. Five minutes later he is basically unconscious on the ground. I didn't really pay attention to him much after that, he left an hour or two later, but I ran into him a couple days after that and he proclaimed that the devil was in that shit and that he didn't want to party with us any more. Lol.

[Feachie]

Had a bad experience on ketamine at a rave a long time ago. Mainstream? I don't think it'll get to that point tbh. Too debilitating. But then again I hate dissociatives.

[Marley]

Is ketamine mainstream now? I remember it was sort of emerging as a club drug a few years ago, but I sort of figured that most people had no idea how to grasp its full potential. I know people like getting a little stumbly/faded, but your average drug user has no interest in the sort of mindfuck that accompanies an unadulterated k-hole.

Six years ago I was living with some friends in a borderline neighborhood; we'd throw parties on the weekends and have a free keg and smoke a bunch of weed and every once in a while we'd buy a few grams of ketamine and just have it there for people who wanted to go down that road. So anyways, the neighborhood I lived in was altogether decent, but there was three generations of some seriously hood black people living right next door. This 60-year-old lady/drunk/formercrackhead stole my friend's girlfriend's purse while hanging out on the porch one night and we had to recover its contents by busting into their house and looking around; my buddy finally recovered the last important piece by yoinking the girl's cellphone from between grandma's tits. So anyways, a couple of the guys were pretty cool and not really sketchy (imo) and they'd come over and party a little and shoot dice and stuff. One of these nights happened to be when we had a tray of ketamine floating around. So this guy thinks it's coke at first and we explain to him that it isn't cocaine, it's something that will fuck you up totally different and that it doesn't take much. He replies "***** I'm from Detroit, you don't know how we do it down thurr," and proceeds to lay himself out a huge chalker. I wasn't about to argue, lol, so he takes it down in one fell swoop. Five minutes later he is basically unconscious on the ground. I didn't really pay attention to him much after that, he left an hour or two later, but I ran into him a couple days after that and he proclaimed that the devil was in that shit and that he didn't want to party with us any more. Lol.

Lmfao! I've seen this situation before, but it involved a skinny white dude with nothing to lose but his adolescent attitude. Showed him the definition of a "K-hole" real quick :)

[Prince]

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l336/glamgalz/funzug/imgs/crazypics/before_after_drugs_07.jpg

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/meth2.jpg

enjoy your drugs, keep kidding urself that they're not bad for you for as long as u can

[Bardalicious]

enjoy your drugs, keep kidding urself that they're not bad for you for as long as u can

FRANDZ!!! I have seen the light! The err of my ways!

No longer shall I smoke a bowl or I too shall end up sucking dicks for an eight of a bag and end up living on the streets!

Thank you Prince for showing me the truth!

[eastadam55]

Prince is that Jeff Foxworthy in the meth picture?

[Csihar]

Faces of Marijuana

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1148/1433846907_b605124078.jpg

[eastadam55]

More like that.

[Prince]

FRANDZ!!! I have seen the light! The err of my ways!

No longer shall I smoke a bowl or I too shall end up sucking dicks for an eight of a bag and end up living on the streets!

Thank you Prince for showing me the truth!

laugh it up all the way to one of the three places u end up when u have an addiction that u don't treat (institutionalized, prison, or a coffin)

[quido]

I'm addicted to gardening... it's ruining my life!

[Csihar]

More like that.

More like what? I can't see the child's face on that picture.

[Bardalicious]

laugh it up all the way to one of the three places u end up when u have an addiction that u don't treat (institutionalized, prison, or a coffin)

You can count on that, cuz I'll be high as a motherfucker.

[Fourthmeal]

Prince is that Jeff Foxworthy in the meth picture?

Just your average Oregonian

[Kimmie]

ITT: Sinners

[Feachie]

ITT: Sinners

aren't we all? :rolleyes:

[Bardalicious]

ITT: Sinners

God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth..." (Genesis 1:29)

[Doors]

I for one can't see Kimmie ever committing a sin.

[Ihealyou]

I for one can't see Kimmie ever committing a sin.

gluttony

[Kimmie]

gluttony

Stove Top stuffing doesn't count :(

[Ihealyou]

Stove Top stuffing doesn't count :(

fat

[Azmere]

Prince we were discussing weed, you posted pictured of meth addicts...

[nalkin]

I for one can't see Kimmie ever committing a sin.

Guess it depends whether or not betrayal is considered a sin.

[Pico]

ketamine seemed to get popular with the rise of that dubstep crap

[drkullnet]

Bizde kendimizce konuyla alakalı sorulardan meydana gelen bir seyler hazirladik.

[Knuckle]

I agree with Prince and Kimmie, you're all worthless and going to die a terrible death while the lord our savior burns ur tar stained souls

[Piff]

Bizde kendimizce konuyla alakalı sorulardan meydana gelen bir seyler hazirladik.

[Bardalicious]

I agree with Prince and Kimmie, you're all worthless and going to die a terrible death while the lord our savior burns ur tar stained souls

Alcohol is a drug. c u in hell

[Piff]

Alcohol is a drug. c u in hell

hell? i bet you still believe in the easter bunny too.

[Bardalicious]

hell? i bet you still believe in the easter bunny too.

The conversation encapsulated sinning, thus religion as well. Just following suit. L2read

Thanks for taking the opportunity to hug my nuts though, obviously still mad for calling u out on lovin' dem pixels lawl.


HOW DAT TWITTER FEED OF MERC'N SPLITPAW GNOLLS COMIN' ALONG??

[Piff]

The conversation encapsulated sinning, thus religion as well. Just following suit. L2read

Thanks for taking the opportunity to hug my nuts though, obviously still mad for calling u out on lovin' dem pixels lawl.


HOW DAT TWITTER FEED OF MERC'N SPLITPAW GNOLLS COMIN' ALONG??

shellin' out a lotta rounds kid, chillax. there is no god.

[naez]

shellin' out a lotta rounds kid, chillax. there is no god.

whens the last time you died and found out?

[Bardalicious]

whens the last time you died and found out?

rofl

[Piff]

whens the last time you died and found out?

i was pronounced dead for 30 seconds shortly after my birth (had some breathing problem). upon re-awakening it because clear to me that had a god existed, he would have re-opened my conciuosness in a divine manner.

if you believe in god, you'll believe in anything.

[Bardalicious]

i was pronounced dead for 30 seconds shortly after my birth (had some breathing problem). upon re-awakening it because clear to me that had a god existed, he would have re-opened my conciuosness in a divine manner.

if you believe in god, you'll believe in anything.



Didn't really happen.

[Piff]

Didn't really happen.

that's what i've been saying this whole time. chill book and all (if you haven't given it a read you ought to) but other than that, none of it really happened.

[Messianic]

lol, the thread's gone religious.

Piff, you don't have any good reason to say that there isn't a God.

Talk about things you can actually prove, like a real skeptic - not some armchair philosopher or hedonist attempting to justify their own belief by demeaning someone else's. It's easily possible to argue the question of God is irrelevant or meaningless - but you can't simply dismiss the idea of God as an impossibility.

Be a better Atheist.

[Piff]

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. They say there is "hell", or "god". I don't need to give you proof of your own fallacies.

Keep believing in your God, keep paying your churches. Keep allowing the governtment to use morals built off of the bible as excuses.

If you're down with that, cool. But you're a fool yo.

[Knuckle]

Alcohol is a drug. c u in hell

as per the bible, i will lead you to the land of mead and honey.

Sorry you fail at religion

[Feachie]

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. They say there is "hell", or "god". I don't need to give you proof of your own fallacies
This.

I don't need promises of paradise to make me be a good person.

[Piff]

Sorry you fail at religion

[Messianic]

What can be asserted without evidence can also be
dismissed without evidence.

To dismiss something because it cannot produce the kind of evidence you demand - at present - is itself more erroneous than simply believing something that isn't transferable to others by a common means - science and reason alone.

Immanuel Kant disagrees with you and Christopher Hutchens and your categorical mistake. Again, you need to be a better Atheist. Right now you're just a comfortable hedonist.

I don't need to give you proof of your own fallacies.

Don't you see that's a fallacy in itself? To believe something without redundant, scientific (aka experiential) evidence isn't necessarily wrong - it's just nontransferable and at present, unverifiable by common means. You may dismiss it as irrelevant, but you don't know any more or any less than that which you categorize as a fallacy.

Keep believing in your God, keep paying your churches.

Did I argue that I did or you should? Why bring this in? Again - you reaffirm to me that you choose Atheism as a reaction, not as a genuine attempt to believe what is true. You simply dislike what the red team does, so you choose blue team. Sounds like a brilliant move.

Keep allowing the governtment to use morals built off of the bible as excuses. If you're down with that, cool. But you're a fool yo.

Keep allowing the government to use morals built from individuals who believe they should control most of your life since they're more intelligent and more evolved than you - and your individual choices are ruining the world and must be controlled.

Hell, you don't even know where I stand or how I choose my political philosophy and you've categorized me as part of 10-15% of the Republican party. That's probably more evidence than I need to know how you choose how to live the rest of your life.

[Bardalicious]

as per the bible, i will lead you to the land of mead and honey.

Sorry you fail at religion


God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth..." (Genesis 1:29)


The same can be said about Marijuana, Papaver somniferum, etc. Since it was "God" that created it for us, no? There are plenty of obscure passages that we can quote back and forth to cherry pick for our own defense.

If you are religious and condemning others for partaking in things like Marijuana while you obviously partake in alcohol yourself, you are a fool. It's easily asserted that the bible indicates that moderate consumption of alcohol is permitted, however drunkenness as a condition is condemned. I don't suppose you'd like to argue that you've never gotten drunk?

Do not be confused - I am not religious nor do I believe in God. There was a perfectly good Cthulu thread floating around RnF for you kiddies to argue his existence in.

[Piff]

To dismiss something because it cannot produce the kind of evidence you demand - at present - is itself more erroneous than simply believing something that isn't transferable to others by a common means - science and reason alone.

Immanuel Kant disagrees with you and Christopher Hutchens and your categorical mistake. Again, you need to be a better Atheist. Right now you're just a comfortable hedonist.



Don't you see that's a fallacy in itself? To believe something without redundant, scientific (aka experiential) evidence isn't necessarily wrong - it's just nontransferable and at present, unverifiable by common means. You may dismiss it as irrelevant, but you don't know any more or any less than that which you categorize as a fallacy.



Did I argue that I did or you should? Why bring this in? Again - you reaffirm to me that you choose Atheism as a reaction, not as a genuine attempt to believe what is true. You simply dislike what the red team does, so you choose blue team. Sounds like a brilliant move.



Keep allowing the government to use morals built from individuals who believe they should control most of your life since they're more intelligent and more evolved than you - and your individual choices are ruining the world and must be controlled.

Hell, you don't even know where I stand or how I choose my political philosophy and you've categorized me as part of 10-15% of the Republican party. That's probably more evidence than I need to know how you choose how to live the rest of your life.

Atleast you're eco-friendly. You built your wall of text out of bullshit haha. You sound retarded. The fact is you can't believe there's a pen in your hand unless you prove it.

It's not a big deal bud, it's just this Jesus guy and his pops are innocent until proven guilty. Imaginary until proven reality. y'know?

[Bardalicious]

Atleast you're eco-friendly. You built your wall of text out of bullshit haha. You sound retarded. The fact is you can't believe there's a pen in your hand unless you prove it.

It's not a big deal bud, it's just this Jesus guy and his pops are innocent until proven guilty. Imaginary until proven reality. y'know?

Piff = ignorant troll.

Not worth getting excited over Messianic, I assure you. If you can't tell by now, he hasn't got the intelligence to partake in a conversation past the level of "no u r" retorts.

[Piff]

Piff = ignorant troll.

Not worth getting excited over Messianic, I assure you. If you can't tell by now, he hasn't got the intelligence to partake in a conversation past the level of "no u r" retorts.

u go 2 hard 4 me man. 8 posts a day, i can't keep up. keep running circles around me bro. i'll be outside with a fine biddie and a better brew, listening to some tunes and enjoying another beautiful afternoon.

[Bardalicious]

QQ justifying my real life worth on a forum


yep, u still mad pixel princess

[Messianic]

Piff = ignorant troll.

Not worth getting excited over Messianic, I assure you. If you can't tell by now, he hasn't got the intelligence to partake in a conversation past the level of "no u r" retorts.

Eh, I figure i'll give him another labored response for good measure. I try to be honest with myself and everyone else at all times, and give them the benefit of the doubt while I can.


Atleast you're eco-friendly. You built your wall of text out of bullshit haha. You sound retarded.

And you haven't built a reasonable reply to a glaring fallacy in your central point - your Christopher Hutchens quote (tbh, I didn't know it off hand, I googled it since it sounded familiar).

It's okay if you genuinely didn't understand what was written - that can often happen when you're confronted with problems with what you believe and you're more happy insulting someone else than dealing with those problems...

Or, you could at least admit that you'd rather not spend the time replying and being honest with yourself - don't waste my time and yours insulting me if you really can't coherently defend your point with reason and evidence - what you claim to base things on.

But if you made a bold statement that someone else's belief - not even necessarily mine - is stupid when your own belief is vulnerable to the same criticism...You should expect a response in a public arena.

The fact is you can't believe there's a pen in your hand unless you prove it.

The above statement has no evidential basis. How do you arrive at that belief except by assuming without adequate evidence? It sounds nice, but if statements have to be believed based on a specific standard of evidence, what is the basis of believing the above statement? Boil it down, and you'll find an assumption not based on evidence, but based on a pragmatic decision that appears right, but has no ultimate justification.

If you're trying to actually say "You shouldn't believe things you can't prove, or at least hold them in a different regard from things you can prove," accommodating for the difference in kinds of proofs and appropriate categorization, then you have a coherent statement.

I don't have to be able to prove anything to anyone else to believe something and have it be true - but my methodology was certainly wrong if I believed it cause a drunk frog told me so and I accepted it because of that.

But here's the point: wrong methodology doesn't necessarily make someone wrong about their overall point. You assume wrong methodology (a whole other argument) means wrong conclusion.

It's not a big deal bud, it's just this Jesus guy and his pops are innocent until proven guilty. Imaginary until proven reality. y'know?

But if it can't be proven that Jesus is imaginary, why are you believing it? I thought you couldn't do that. It's not like you have to choose one or the other at the end of a gun.

And again, i'm not trying to argue from the position of a Theist or argue you into God or something - that's a really stupid goal - i'm just trying to show you that when you make statements like the ones you've made, you're contradicting yourself.

[Fourthmeal]

Damn Messianic, way to write a book there.

[Piff]

i have no life

i'm bored guys. and that is way too much to read messi. but i'm sure it's good stuff as long as it's not all "ooo praise dha lawwwd" n stuff.

[fishingme]

Piff = ignorant troll.

Not worth getting excited over Messianic, I assure you. If you can't tell by now, he hasn't got the intelligence to partake in a conversation past the level of "no u r" retorts.

Yeah, mess pretty much destroyed the guy there

[Bardalicious]

Damn Messianic, way to write a book there.

WTB Baja Blast and Steak Gordita pst

[Messianic]

i'm bored guys. and that is way too much to read messi. but i'm sure it's good stuff as long as it's not all "ooo praise dha lawwwd" n stuff.

Or, you could at least admit that you'd rather not spend the time replying

Ty

Damn Messianic, way to write a book there.

I just get really tired of the same old "ur dumb" "no u r" arguments and prefer to make coherent ones.

I find I end up typing less in total because my method filters people who are actually interested from those who really don't care enough to discuss it, which is okay too.


Edit: "Young Messianic Book" - got a lol from me ;)

[Bardalicious]

i'm bored guys. and that is way too much to read messi. but i'm sure it's good stuff as long as it's not all "ooo praise dha lawwwd" n stuff.


yep, u still mad pixel princess


Thank you for proving my point about lacking the intelligence to hold a meaningful conversation.

[Piff]

Ty



I just get really tired of the same old "ur dumb" "no u r" arguments and prefer to make coherent ones.

I find I end up typing less in total because my method filters people who are actually interested from those who really don't care enough to discuss it, which is okay too.

i gave you coherent arguments. they weren't two pages long, because they didnt' have to be. if you believe in god solely because there are HUNDREDS of pages written about him, then that explains a lot about you. i don't know you, or why you chose to follow a non-existent "divine" being blindly so it's hard to speculate. however you have no argument in the matter. until there is atleast a small shread of evidence, there is NO god. there's piles and piles of proof against him, but jesus gives you the power to give that nonsense the blind-eye, i'm assuming.

no god, no jesus. no holy ghost or w/e. lol u guys believe in ghosts too? i'm joshin'. but seriously. it's all bullshit there's no way to not sound stupid when defending your religion unless you write something so long that everyone gives up on reading it..

so you've succeeded, bub.

[Piff]

Thank you for proving my point about lacking the intelligence to hold a meaningful conversation.

a meaningful convesation does not consist of constantly running through these forums critiquing the women that frequent them. or spending hours, and days defending yourself from being banned from a second rate emulator of an 11 year old game. you're not even washed up bardalicious, you're either some annoying teen with angst or some mad mid life crisis faggot. there's not much more to be said. at ths point we know you have a short fuse and telling the other person they are mad isn't working either haha.

idk man. maybe you need some new strats. maybe take a hiatus and comeback swingin'. GL either way, young board warrior.

[Bardalicious]

lol words


Another ignorant and/or uninformative post by: Piffen.

[Messianic]

i gave you coherent arguments. they weren't two pages long, because they didnt' have to be. if you believe in god solely because there are HUNDREDS of pages written about him, then that explains a lot about you.

No, you derailed and stopped the argument we were having because you were losing. You've restarted it in a different place (why I believe in God, which you do not know whether i do, nor was it ever an issue) from where it started (Atheism is true because you can only believe things you can prove) precisely because you aren't arguing coherently.

i don't know you, or why you chose to follow a non-existent "divine" being blindly so it's hard to speculate. however you have no argument in the matter. until there is atleast a small shread of evidence, there is NO god. there's piles and piles of proof against him, but jesus gives you the power to give that nonsense the blind-eye, i'm assuming.

Thanks for repeating your original argument (the one I refuted and you told me you wouldn't read what I said), complete with self-refuting fallacy. You should quit wasting your time and just re-read the statements I already made - because you didn't reply to them. You just changed the subject of argument.

defending your religion

Go ahead and show me where I was "defending my religion." You can't. Again, you've changed the argument from what it was to something entirely different.

My guess is because you really don't have much else to say other than "people who believe in God are stupid" - because you've repeated that at every stage of this interaction.

[Bardalicious]

a meaningful convesation does not consist of constantly running through these forums critiquing the women that frequent them. or spending hours, and days defending yourself from being banned from a second rate emulator of an 11 year old game. you're not even washed up bardalicious, you're either some annoying teen with angst or some mad mid life crisis faggot. there's not much more to be said. at ths point we know you have a short fuse and telling the other person they are mad isn't working either haha.

idk man. maybe you need some new strats. maybe take a hiatus and comeback swingin'. GL either way, young board warrior.



Guise I'm bored and going outside to enjoy my afternoon with some bitches and a brew, but o wait I need to spend the next 3 hours explaining to you in an angry fashion that I AM NOT MAD.

u mad bro, we get it