Still No Word?

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

I keep coming back every so often for word of a new server launch.

I know they are still active behind the scenes. They turned on bonuses for July 4th.

The last player posting on the communications sticky at the top of the page was in May 2024. Looked like the last posting from any P99 team member was October 2019.

Should I stop holding my breath? I keep passing out waiting.

[Ransurian]

Green was always intended to be the finished product while Blue essentially served as a trial run / development server prior to Green’s release. There won’t be a new server because Green is the fulfillment of the original vision. It’s mission accomplished at this point. Simple as that.

If you want a fresh experience, start up an alt and don’t put 200k into it to trivialize the content.

[loramin]

If you just want confirmation that Green 2.0 is coming, go read the bug forum. You can see they are fixing things which could only matter on a future Green 2.0 server (eg. fixing content that is already out-of-era).

However, while it's true that Green 2.0 is coming, the staff operates on their own, very slow timeline; breath holding is ill-advised.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

Green was always intended to be the finished product..

Then why do they keep pushing patches for Green?

Some of those patches remove content from the game prior to a certain month and year. Those mainly include the first 12 months the game was out, yet the game is at the end of Velious.

Do these particular patches from June 1st 2025 make any sense to you?

Nilbog: Lord Soptyvr no longer spawns until [Feb2000]
Nilbog: Thadres Thyme will not spawn until [Jul1999]
Nilbog: Redwind and icy orcs do not spawn until [Oct1999]
Nilbog: 'Leuz's Task' is not available until [Apr2001].
Nilbog: 'Necromancer Words' quests now work. Quest givers do not spawn until [Jul1999]
Nilbog: Martar Icebear won't spawn until [Oct1999].

Why waste time on these patches? We are clearly past those dates in the game's timeline.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

If you just want confirmation that Green 2.0 is coming, go read the bug forum. You can see they are fixing things which could only matter on a future Green 2.0 server (eg. fixing content that is already out-of-era).

However, while it's true that Green 2.0 is coming, the staff operates on their own, very slow timeline; breath holding is ill-advised.

I believe one is coming. The patch notes from June tell me. When, is the question...

[Ciderpress]

Was about to make the same point but glad to see it's been made for me. Some people have really strong opinions without doing something as simple as reading patch notes posted on the front page.

[Drueric]

They were going to merge blue and green and wipe. But that was supposed to be a couple years ago...

[Wonton]

Green 2.0 will come out one day, I just know it will..... And I am eagerly fucking waiting that's for sure, HYYYYYYYPE!!!

Also, I think they still patch for green because they want it to be perfect so that when 2.0 rolls around it'll be like 98% accurate as to how it was back in 1999. God Bless Brothers.

[Realm]

Thursday for sure.

[sajbert]

Green was always intended to be the finished product while Blue essentially served as a trial run / development server prior to Green’s release. There won’t be a new server because Green is the fulfillment of the original vision. It’s mission accomplished at this point. Simple as that.

If you want a fresh experience, start up an alt and don’t put 200k into it to trivialize the content.

Uh. No.

Green still sees patches of pre-current content. Green was initially supposed to be merged with Blue but then they went back on that statement and left it up in the air. Maybe the goal was a classic like run through the content just one time, or a recurring server, I haven't seen anything to state one or the other.

[Drueric]

Maybe they need more donations.

[Goregasmic]

Also, I think they still patch for green because they want it to be perfect so that when 2.0 rolls around it'll be like 98% accurate as to how it was back in 1999. God Bless Brothers.

Yeah I think something like implementing the lull nerf before green 2.0 hits would have MASSIVE consequences on how the economy would unfold. Other stuff like adjustments to spell resists and fixing mages would be nice too. Would make sense to hold up green 2.0 release until some of the last major kinks are ironed out.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

Thursday for sure.

Thank you. I put in a vacation day at work...

[ya.dingus]

I wonder if the project will ever come back to life.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

I wonder if the project will ever come back to life.

I believe they warned everyone not to create multiple characters on the same account across both Blue and Green servers for that reason.

If you happened to miss that message, you would eventually have to decide which characters you are going to delete so you only end up with 8 total during a merger.

[ya.dingus]

I believe they warned everyone not to create multiple characters on the same account across both Blue and Green servers for that reason.

If you happened to miss that message, you would eventually have to decide which characters you are going to delete so you only end up with 8 total during a merger.

??

Was this just a comment out of left field or what?

[cd288]

Green was always intended to be the finished product while Blue essentially served as a trial run / development server prior to Green’s release. There won’t be a new server because Green is the fulfillment of the original vision. It’s mission accomplished at this point. Simple as that.

If you want a fresh experience, start up an alt and don’t put 200k into it to trivialize the content.

Huh? This is absolutely not true. Look at the staff's own words

[cd288]

??

Was this just a comment out of left field or what?

No. It was in the staff's messaging at launch

[WarpathEQ]

My prediction is that a new server comes after they solve the unclassic resists and channeling issues. That seems to be the final big piece of the mechanics that doesn't work as intended for this classic project.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

??

Was this just a comment out of left field or what?

No.

Appearances are this was part of your comment. And what I was replying too.

"If you want to server merge, then you have to server purge."

[Goregasmic]

My prediction is that a new server comes after they solve the unclassic resists and channeling issues. That seems to be the final big piece of the mechanics that doesn't work as intended for this classic project.

What's the channeling issue again? Too little interrupts on p99?

[Swish]

My prediction is that a new server comes after they solve the unclassic resists and channeling issues. That seems to be the final big piece of the mechanics that doesn't work as intended for this classic project.

PQ got told no resets/new servers as part of the agreement with Daybreak... if that's any indicator.

[sajbert]

Difficult to say when the p99-team don't communicate with us. Could be that Green was an exception and since then no no fresh server has been greenlit by Daybreak.

If Daybreak doesn't allow fresh/rotating private servers (which I think makes sense) but allows for QoL tweaks like permanent legacy item drops on Quarm then I think there could be an argument for implementing something similar on Green. Perhaps opening up legacy camp and respawning warders on a cycling original timeline schedule.

But yeah, it's anyone's guess.

[jolanar]

This whole thing is turning into a George R. R. Martin is never going to write the Winds of Winter kind of thing.

[cd288]

Difficult to say when the p99-team don't communicate with us. Could be that Green was an exception and since then no no fresh server has been greenlit by Daybreak.

If Daybreak doesn't allow fresh/rotating private servers (which I think makes sense) but allows for QoL tweaks like permanent legacy item drops on Quarm then I think there could be an argument for implementing something similar on Green. Perhaps opening up legacy camp and respawning warders on a cycling original timeline schedule.

But yeah, it's anyone's guess.

The P99 agreement allows new servers as long as they don't go past Velious and, presumably, as long as they don't do crazy stuff like PQ and THJ.

[zelld52]

Was that agreement in perpetuity, forever? I doubt it - it more than likely had a time frame on it - and it could quite possibly be the case that the agreement is reaching the end of its terms.

I have a feeling that a new p99 server would not please the current Daybreak team - as they are struggling with TLPs. Fresh p99 server would rob Daybreak of potentially thousands of subscriptions, in their minds.

[Agrimir]

Was that agreement in perpetuity, forever? I doubt it - it more than likely had a time frame on it - and it could quite possibly be the case that the agreement is reaching the end of its terms.

I have a feeling that a new p99 server would not please the current Daybreak team - as they are struggling with TLPs. Fresh p99 server would rob Daybreak of potentially thousands of subscriptions, in their minds.


They hate it so much that they agreed to officially recognize another emulator.

[Drueric]

We dont need a new server, we just need to wipe this one and start over fresh. Green has gotten quite stale.

[Coridan]

The Quarm agreement is pretty trash, so I hope P99's is better.

If DBG had any brains they'd just buy P99 and actually run it as a 4 year recycle server.

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

We dont need a new server, we just need to wipe this one and start over fresh. Green has gotten quite stale.

A thousand thumbs up!

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

Was that agreement in perpetuity, forever? I doubt it - it more than likely had a time frame on it - and it could quite possibly be the case that the agreement is reaching the end of its terms.

I have a feeling that a new p99 server would not please the current Daybreak team - as they are struggling with TLPs. Fresh p99 server would rob Daybreak of potentially thousands of subscriptions, in their minds.

It does not make sense the P99 team is patching old content to take certain NPCs out of the game until later dates when they would then spawn. Most of those NPCs will appear in the game in the summer of 1999. The Green server is obviously way past those dates.

So why waste time on the latest patch introduced last month?

[Ghost_of_Fippy]

I don't know squat about THJ, but I have a level 54 Necro on Project Quarm. RIP.

I figured a Legal notice would eventually be handed down by DBG, but not this soon. I was wagering it would be given to the Quarm team on the first day Luclin opened.

P99 does not have a legal agreement to go past Velious. I figured Quarm had no agreement at all to even start a server.