View Full Version : WHAT is humility? (7 sins & 7 virtues)
SorenVC
08-11-2025, 01:51 PM
I know this "7 sins and 7 virtues" isn't really in the Bible, but I would say it is agreed upon to be equally true and as "official" as the Bible. If you didn't hear about it yet, here it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues
Virtue / Sin
Chastity / Lust
Temperance / Gluttony
Charity / Greed
Diligence / Sloth
Kindness / Envy
Patience / Wrath
Humility / Pride
Now regardless if you believe these virtues are good for you I wanted to ask you what you think of humility, since pride is the biggest sin and therefore humility is the biggest virtue. Humility is like thinking less of yourself "I am not important".
The Oxford Dictionary, in its 1998 edition, describes humility as a low self-regard and sense of unworthiness.
So I have two questions for you. WHAT do you THINK of humility is it good or bad? And how come many times people say they are "proud" of something they are or that they did. Isn't this feeling bad? Because religiously speaking it is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
think i had to do this puzzle in a lord british game once
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 02:08 PM
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SorenVC
08-11-2025, 03:22 PM
One thing I noticed about humility, if we look at the prideful famous people with a huge ego, be it KSI, Logan & Jake Paul, Andrew & Tristan Tate, almost noone really likes them except kids and deluded people. Then we have people like xQc, Speed and Adin Ross who I'd say are humble enough for where they are, they are not that bad to be honest. It feels like the more humility you have, the more likable you are as a person. And the more prideful you are, the more hated you'll become if you ever get famous.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 03:25 PM
Hated, but watched and wealthy.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 03:54 PM
Virtue / Sin
Chastity / Lust
Temperance / Gluttony
Charity / Greed
Diligence / Sloth
Kindness / Envy
Patience / Wrath
Humility / Pride
https://i.imgur.com/l4x2Wlv.jpeg
loramin
08-11-2025, 04:05 PM
Now regardless if you believe these virtues are good for you I wanted to ask you what you think of humility, since pride is the biggest sin and therefore humility is the biggest virtue. Humility is like thinking less of yourself "I am not important".
The Oxford Dictionary, in its 1998 edition, describes humility as a low self-regard and sense of unworthiness.
So I have two questions for you. WHAT do you THINK of humility is it good or bad? And how come many times people say they are "proud" of something they are or that they did. Isn't this feeling bad? Because religiously speaking it is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Words in English have different meanings in different contexts. In the Catholic context, "humility" does not have the same meaning as in standard English!
The Catholic idea is about recognizing one's own unworthiness before God and accepting one's place in God's order. It is not about self-deprecation or feeling worthless, it's about seeing how magnificent God's larger plan is, and recognizing that you are just a tiny piece of that plan.
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-a-proud-man-is-always-looking-down-on-things-and-people-and-of-course-as-long-as-you-c-s-lewis-34-62-68.jpg
NopeNopeNopeNope
08-11-2025, 05:32 PM
Words in English have different meanings in different contexts. In the Catholic context, "humility" does not have the same meaning as in standard English!
The Catholic idea is about recognizing one's own unworthiness before God and accepting one's place in God's order. It is not about self-deprecation or feeling worthless, it's about seeing how magnificent God's larger plan is, and recognizing that you are just a tiny piece of that plan.
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-a-proud-man-is-always-looking-down-on-things-and-people-and-of-course-as-long-as-you-c-s-lewis-34-62-68.jpg
Yea I was going to say, the opposite of confidence to me seems to be insecurity
Whereas I personally think the opposite of arrogance would be more humility
An arrogant person who’s learned a lot might say “I know more than you” or “I know a lot of things”
While a humble person might say “the more I’ve learned the more I realize I do not know”
An arrogant person is brash, a humble person is quiet. It don’t associate humility as a negative or as self-deprecation
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 06:46 PM
Christians: Responsibility
Atheists: Feel how shitty you are, let the shit course through your veins.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 06:59 PM
Christians: Responsibility
Atheists: Feel how shitty you are, let the shit course through your veins.i put this through a King James English translator because of its absurd self-defeating nature... as a standalone statement anyways.
Christians: Thy duty doth call. Atheists: Feel the weight of thy despair, let it course through thy very veins.
Christians: always judging others and defining what they think they are.
Atheists: just laughing quietly at christians desperately grasping for sky daddys attention. Until some xtian tries to tell us what we think/feel/need.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:07 PM
Atheists: just laughing quietly at christians
You get mad at every post about christianity, ever.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:12 PM
I want to share my view but won't presume. I do know you guys talk this stuff more than a Christian science reading room but are you looking to discuss or expand your map of the topic or just talk shit?
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:18 PM
I'm just keeping score:
Atheist dictionary: You are shit, kill yourself
Bible: Acceptance is at hand, be strong.
I want to share my view but won't presume. I do know you guys talk this stuff more than a Christian science reading room but are you looking to discuss or expand your map of the topic or just talk shit?
You get mad at every post about christianity, ever.
You keep putting this rubbish out there. Im just sorting the wheat from the chaff.
loramin
08-11-2025, 07:21 PM
https://liturgy.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Ilikeyourchrist.jpg
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-if-all-christians-acted-like-christ-the-whole-world-would-be-christian-mahatma-gandhi-60-85-72.jpg
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:22 PM
Isn't that guy a pedophile?
Damit. Nice one Loramin.
Not all xtians/muslims/buddists are shitty, but im not willing to risk it.
Engage with a bad one and you never hear the end of the "Seek Christ" and "Yall need the Lord and saviour" faff and twaddle.
Many sports coaches are also pdfs.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:22 PM
Christians: always judging others and defining what they think they are.
Atheists: just laughing quietly at christians desperately grasping for sky daddys attention. Until some xtian tries to tell us what we think/feel/need.
You'll never get to the Meneltarma being uncharitable.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:24 PM
^
Christ wins again!
:cool:
Stop making me look up words damn you Reiwa!
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:27 PM
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-if-all-christians-acted-like-christ-the-whole-world-would-be-christian-mahatma-gandhi-60-85-72.jpg
The world stays sinful until God’s final judgment. Revelation 21:1-4.
“Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
Christ wins again!
:cool:
May wanna take another look lil buddy.
I DSMed you.
Quoting a fictional book to prove that god is real.
That's top tier copium.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:29 PM
https://liturgy.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Ilikeyourchrist.jpg
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-if-all-christians-acted-like-christ-the-whole-world-would-be-christian-mahatma-gandhi-60-85-72.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EasNkjdXsAAVTqI.jpg
i thought my Ultima joke was pretty good, the fact it was ignored bothers me.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 07:31 PM
that last meme is meant to be ironic but it's literally making the point jesus was trying to, from my reading. don't get tripped up over scripture, dude, just be excellent to each other.
and, if the opportunity presents itself, throw a brick at a fascist someday. the bible is chock-full of righteous violence.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:32 PM
meanwhile actual today India
Recent news reports indicate a disturbing trend in India where a Hindu nationalist politician has offered a monetary reward, or "bounty," for violent acts against Christian clerics, including Catholic priests.
Specifically, the politician, Gopichand Padalkar, has reportedly offered sums ranging from 350,000 rupees (about US$4,200) for assaults on Christian priests to 1.1 million rupees (about US$13,000) for killing a priest. These statements were reportedly made following a woman's suicide, which Padalkar linked to alleged forced conversions by Christians without providing evidence.
These threats have drawn strong condemnation from Christian leaders in India. The Catholic Bishops Conference of India (CBCI) has expressed deep concern over the rising hostility towards minority communities and called for immediate legal action against Padalkar, according to cruxnow.com. Despite these calls, police have reportedly failed to register a formal complaint against the politician.
This incident highlights concerns among religious minorities in India about increasing harassment since the Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) took control of the national government in 2014. There are fears that such actions threaten India's tradition of religious co-existence and secularism.
It's important to note that the Catholic Church in India, through various organizations like Caritas India and the Catholic Health Association of India (CHAI), is actively involved in extensive social work, including providing education, healthcare, and humanitarian aid to marginalized communities, irrespective of religion.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:33 PM
that last meme is meant to be ironic but it's literally making the point jesus was trying to, from my reading. don't get tripped up over scripture, dude, just be excellent to each other.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y8_uMoftzcg/maxresdefault.jpg
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 07:35 PM
hippie-coded jesus is my jam, as long as it comes with social awareness and curiousity.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:35 PM
that last meme is meant to be ironic but it's literally making the point jesus was trying to, from my reading. don't get tripped up over scripture, dude, just be excellent to each other.
and, if the opportunity presents itself, throw a brick at a fascist someday. the bible is chock-full of righteous violence.
Jesus came and preached peace if you believe the author of Ephesians. Jesus is also reported to have said that if someone strikes you on the cheek, offer up to them your other as well. He also rebuked the hypocrites in every account in the Bible.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:36 PM
Not calling you a hypocrite atomicpaul
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:37 PM
https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED549/67a16d1f6b4f0.jpeg
Just try being a nice person for no other reason other than it makes you feel good.
Not for reward.
Not for someone else. Just you.
We could try that and it wouldnt matter if you were satanist or xtian or buddist or muslim.
That will sort itself out when who evers "God" ends up being real.
Ill start. Want a footlong sandwich Shovel?
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:38 PM
Who is that and who cares?
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 07:41 PM
Just try being a nice person for no other reason other than it makes you feel good.
Not for reward.
Not for someone else. Just you.
We could try that and it wouldnt matter if you were satanist or xtian or buddist or muslim.
Indifferentism is an error. John 14:6
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:43 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8xZhTDm.png
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8xZhTDms.png
Is it arrogance or humility to assume your vehicle to salvation is the best one to the point you deny others?
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 07:46 PM
And you agree with that meme?
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 07:51 PM
And you agree with that meme?
Yes, CEOs and captialism and god are #1 and everything else is nazi bullshit.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 07:56 PM
Jesus came and preached peace if you believe the author of Ephesians. Jesus is also reported to have said that if someone strikes you on the cheek, offer up to them your other as well. He also rebuked the hypocrites in every account in the Bible.i do not take any document as old as the bible at face value. i am definitely a hypocrite, but mainly because i'm an american. my faith is not rooted in scripture. you could burn every bible on earth and i do not think it would change a damn thing about good versus evil.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 07:58 PM
https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED549/67a16d1f6b4f0.jpegthis meme is also self-defeating, it's doing the very thing it's critiquing.
it's just a meme though.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:03 PM
Yes, CEOs and captialism and god are #1 and everything else is nazi bullshit.
Jesus also reportedly asked why one would concern themselves with plucking the mote from one's neighbors eye when they have a beam in their own eye. Not all criticism is indicative that you are wrong, but in a true sense the meaning of any communication is the response you get. If you never really consider quietly and calmly and question your suppositions then you are wasting the gift you were born with. I agree with someone who says many self-appointed Christians who claim to follow Christ (especially in the USA) are in fact are deceivers and hypocrites.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:03 PM
Jesus would be liberal up until the point where that started meaning: We should have the state manage everything.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:05 PM
render unto caesar that which is caesar's blah blah. funny to say this on the day orange man seizes control of dc with the federal pigs.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:08 PM
i do not take any document as old as the bible at face value. i am definitely a hypocrite, but mainly because i'm an american. my faith is not rooted in scripture. you could burn every bible on earth and i do not think it would change a damn thing about good versus evil.
Good and evil are abstract words. You can't put either in a wheelbarrow nor on your mantlepiece. When people argue and fight over what they think an abstract word means and refuse to amend or alter their understanding or models to admit maybe there is ultimately no difference to fight over-- would you say such a person is deluded or not?
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 08:09 PM
render unto caesar that which is caesar's blah blah. funny to say this on the day orange man seizes control of dc with the federal pigs.
No he didn't. He federalized the police department. Weird flex for you.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:09 PM
Glad you admit who your new caser is.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:12 PM
Good and evil are abstract words. You can't put either in a wheelbarrow nor on your mantlepiece. When people argue and fight over what they think an abstract word means and refuse to amend or alter their understanding or models to admit maybe there is ultimately no difference to fight over-- would you say such a person is deluded or not?i dunno, all words are abstractions to me. we're just doing the text version of certain pitched vibrations attached to meanings, which change.
it's like art, or porn. i can't easily define it but i know it when i sees it.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:14 PM
Okay but do the meanings of those abstractions change depending on time or other factors?
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:14 PM
No he didn't. He federalized the police department. Weird flex for you.it's just an example of inconsistency, but as you've cleverly stated, pointing out hypocrisy is a child's argument, right? should we just... ignore it?
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:15 PM
Okay but do the meanings of those abstractions change depending on time or other factors?sure, seems that way. it doesn't make one person delusional or not delusional, though. that seems like an unnecessary escalation. delusions can be a coping mechanism, that's what a lot of conspiracy theories are. it doesn't make them untrue.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:19 PM
orange man seizes control of dc with the federal pigs.
Swigity Swooty!
https://i.imgur.com/gUD6bEl.gif
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:20 PM
Don't worry your turn is coming.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:21 PM
Either way your planet is doomed, DOOOMED!
:o
And then jesus shows up. So win/win.
I am fully prepared to have my head cut off in the name of christ.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 08:21 PM
it's just an example of inconsistency, but as you've cleverly stated, pointing out hypocrisy is a child's argument, right? should we just... ignore it?
Grok won't tell me how Alabama not having home rule means for the Newbern mayor kerkluffle.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:22 PM
sure, seems that way. it doesn't make one person delusional or not delusional, though. that seems like an unnecessary escalation. delusions can be a coping mechanism, that's what a lot of conspiracy theories are. it doesn't make them untrue.
Okay
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:23 PM
Either way your planet is doomed, DOOOMED!
:o
And then jesus shows up. So win/win.
I am fully prepared to have my head cut off in the name of christ.
First you have to have one :)
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:27 PM
First you have to have one :)
Nice one grandma! ;)
https://i.imgur.com/wqR2ERq.png
render unto caesar that which is caesar's blah blah. funny to say this on the day orange man seizes control of dc with the federal pigs.
AND WHO"S FUCKING FAULT IS THAT?
Team fucking telling coal miners to learn to code and throwing lgbtq bbqs on the white house lawn pretending like 51%+ the country isn't down with that shit.
as a libtard in texas i hate my tribe so much it's un fucking real.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:30 PM
Okayi don't have many skills but one of them is reaching absolute dead ends in debate and finding thought-terminating content, sorry. it is my nature. hard to read an Okay
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:32 PM
Can you imagine a bunch of proud boys just body slamming politicians in the streets?
I can. Can't wait! Surely that is something we can all enjoy.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:33 PM
AND WHO"S FUCKING FAULT IS THAT?
Team fucking telling coal miners to learn to code and throwing lgbtq bbqs on the white house lawn pretending like 51%+ the country isn't down with that shit.
as a libtard in texas i hate my tribe so much it's un fucking real.i suggest moving further to the left. the frustration will not abate but you will begin to see the liberals for the rightoids they are. as i recall we argued about aaron sorkin years ago. start with his abominable, horrid work. launch him into the sun, metaphorically speaking.
OriginalContentGuy
08-11-2025, 08:35 PM
Can you imagine a bunch of proud boys just body slamming politicians in the streets?
I can. Can't wait! Surely that is something we can all enjoy.
I think you know what you're doing but also think you're no Christian if you sincerely mean that.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:36 PM
i suggest moving further to the left. the frustration will not abate but you will begin to see the liberals for the rightoids they are. as i recall we argued about aaron sorkin years ago. start with his abominable, horrid work. launch him into the sun, metaphorically speaking.
The far left is literally nazi. So don't do that.
Just seek Christ. Avoid dying in this civil war.
Whoever wins it will be the antichrist anyway.
yeah we did, and i still hold that naive ideal of cocaine fueled sorkinisms of the 1990s as something to strive towards
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:38 PM
Can you imagine a bunch of proud boys just body slamming politicians in the streets?
I can. Can't wait! Surely that is something we can all enjoy.i'm no fan of politicians but i'd rather see a so-called illegal immigrant do it than some pasty proud boy born into privilege, if someone must.
better outcome is they all quit and donate their ill-begotten wealth back to the people, of course, but there's no real mechanism for that.
i saw the bill & melinda gates foundation building this past saturday and uncle ted had a fiery moment in my mind, but i pushed it out and ate a fish sandwich instead
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:40 PM
i'm no fan of politicians but i'd rather see a so-called illegal immigrant do it than some pasty proud boy born into privilege, if someone must.
See that's where we disagree. I don't hate myself because I was all hopped up on communist propaganda.
better outcome is they all quit and donate their ill-begotten wealth back to the people, of course, but there's no real mechanism for that.
There is literally more science to point to jesus returning than this happening, this is why I say your part of a cult.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:43 PM
yeah we did, and i still hold that naive ideal of cocaine fueled sorkinisms of the 1990s as something to strive towardsi'm more in the "throw a shoe at george bush" camp than the "speak truth to power" camp, the former doesn't seem very effective anymore and the insidious part of sorkinite thought is that it is still effective.
i watched the bourne movies the other night in the hotel room and they seemed so naive, because at the end, the big secret breaks, the people are outraged, and arrests are made, trials are held. that is the fiction.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:46 PM
that is the fiction.
True dat.
But, in the long run evil never wins. History points to this.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 08:49 PM
no, it doesn't, but i simply don't like the idea of depending on divine punishment to mete out justice. i think that's a cop-out.
anyways before i get myself banned yet again i am gonna play oblivion. or spider-man. i wish everyone here nothing but the best despite our disagreements.
loramin
08-11-2025, 08:50 PM
i watched the bourne movies the other night in the hotel room and they seemed so naive, because at the end, the big secret breaks, the people are outraged, and arrests are made, trials are held. that is the fiction.
Not entirely, it just has to be the right secret.
Reveal that Trump is ending American democracy? No one Half the country won't care.
But if the "big secret" revealed is proof that Trump screwed a 17-year old with Epstein, we would hear nothing but that on the news for months, and his entire presidency would come tumbling down.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 08:51 PM
Reveal that Trump is ending American democracy? No one Half the country won't care.
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Reiwa
08-11-2025, 08:53 PM
i suggest moving further to the left. the frustration will not abate but you will begin to see the liberals for the rightoids they are. as i recall we argued about aaron sorkin years ago. start with his abominable, horrid work. launch him into the sun, metaphorically speaking.
I was thinking about the 'go far enough Left and you get your guns back' thing the other day and decided it was super insensitive(callous) to urban youth, who die by the thousands every year by way of gun violence.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 08:58 PM
no, it doesn't, but i simply don't like the idea of depending on divine punishment to mete out justice. i think that's a cop-out.
Yeah, but speaking as someone who requires it to prevent very bad things from happening, be thankful for it.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 09:00 PM
AND WHO"S FUCKING FAULT IS THAT?
Team fucking telling coal miners to learn to code and throwing lgbtq bbqs on the white house lawn pretending like 51%+ the country isn't down with that shit.
as a libtard in texas i hate my tribe so much it's un fucking real.
https://i.imgur.com/ijInSTD.png
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 09:00 PM
I was thinking about the 'go far enough Left and you get your guns back' thing the other day and decided it was super insensitive(callous) to urban youth, who die by the thousands every year by way of gun violence.
how far to the left did mao move? is that how far left we're meant to go?
i'm more in the "throw a shoe at george bush" camp than the "speak truth to power" camp, the former doesn't seem very effective anymore and the insidious part of sorkinite thought is that it is still effective.
i watched the bourne movies the other night in the hotel room and they seemed so naive, because at the end, the big secret breaks, the people are outraged, and arrests are made, trials are held. that is the fiction.
idk, the former camp was actually effective. The new breed seems to have nothing to show for themselves other than completely shitting the bed running the show for 4 years with a dementia patient at the helm
think i'll stick with the morals i learned 30 fucking years ago
VKhTFDBj-rw
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 09:07 PM
Not entirely, it just has to be the right secret.
Reveal that Trump is ending American democracy? No one Half the country won't care.
But if the "big secret" revealed is proof that Trump screwed a 17-year old with Epstein, we would hear nothing but that on the news for months, and his entire presidency would come tumbling down.i like you, man, i know we have not interacted much directly i do respect some of your takes.
but how many times does lucy have to set up the football for a kick? c'mon. they have been training themselves to swallow their own horseshit for about a decade now. when will the libs realize this very expectation of pending justice is the axe looming over their necks?
there is no such thing as an expose that ends this dictatorship of the idiot. I also have a lot to lose and i am no street fighter but we need to summon more than... this sorta thing.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 09:12 PM
idk, the former camp was actually effective. The new breed seems to have nothing to show for themselves other than completely shitting the bed running the show for 4 years with a dementia patient at the helm
think i'll stick with the morals i learned 30 fucking years ago
VKhTFDBj-rw
Im with you but if i was her when he finished I'd have said:
"Well mr president, from a Christian perspective the original testament laws were for Israel’s covenant. In Jesus, that covenant is fulfilled, and we live by his teachings today."
https://i.imgur.com/Dcyh8FQ.gif
Its so funny to me how bad religious arguments were in the 90s and it took 90s kids to grow up for us to form these bombshells that demolish our old bombshells.
20 years ago id be like he is so friggen woke and based. :p
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 09:14 PM
idk, the former camp was actually effective. The new breed seems to have nothing to show for themselves other than completely shitting the bed running the show for 4 years with a dementia patient at the helm
think i'll stick with the morals i learned 30 fucking years ago
VKhTFDBj-rwyeah it's cinematic and martin sheen is a good actor and it's decent scripting but it's just as much a fantasy for libs as yellowstone was a fantasy for chuds. and it's meant to disarm you. this non-violent stuff'll get you killed.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 09:15 PM
it's just as much a fantasy for libs as yellowstone was a fantasy for chuds.
20 years ago id be like he is so friggen woke and based. :p
checks out :D
I love yellowstone now.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 09:21 PM
Im with you but if i was her when he finished I'd have said:
"Well mr president, from a Christian perspective the original testament laws were for Israel’s covenant. In Jesus, that covenant is fulfilled, and we live by his teachings today."
https://i.imgur.com/Dcyh8FQ.gif
Its so funny to me how bad religious arguments were in the 90s and it took 90s kids to grow up for us to form these bombshells that demolish our old bombshells.
20 years ago id be like he is so friggen woke and based. :p
Is that covenant theology? I think it's old doctrine but the people saying it now are mostly buttholes.
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 09:32 PM
i'm just glad chuds is broadly understood in the modern internet lexicon, chapo has some influence.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 09:38 PM
i'm just glad chuds is broadly understood in the modern internet lexicon, chapo has some influence.
No since people started defining nazi as Israelite, and saying man means woman, or that a fetus is a gnat, we've collectively decided that words have no meaning anymore. :p
atomicpaul
08-11-2025, 09:45 PM
well they sure do when you're dredging the ocean of meaning to desperately make a point, but okay. even you acknowledge the definition by virtue of your defense of the perceived definition of the term.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 10:05 PM
Is that covenant theology? I think it's old doctrine but the people saying it now are mostly buttholes.
yea that's all old testament
leviticus 18:22
exodus 21:7
exodus 35:2
leviticus 11:7
stonings, burnings, bla bla bla hes going back 5000 years :p
The OT basically says that Israelites should follow its laws, until the messiah comes, then you should do what the messiah does.
Jesus came and said he fufilled the OT and now we're meant to follow his teachings, but he asked us not to throw the OT away proving that he does not want to break those laws but fufill it, which is why it's still in the bible.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 10:11 PM
The OT basically says that Israelites should follow its laws, until the messiah comes, then you should do what the messiah does.
Jesus came and said he fufilled the OT and now we're meant to follow his teachings, but he asked us not to throw the OT away proving that he does not want to break those laws but fufill it, which is why it's still in the bible.
That goes hard. Nice.
Can you imagine a bunch of proud boys just body slamming politicians in the streets?
I can. Can't wait! Surely that is something we can all enjoy.
Neutered horsies that still think they got dem balls.
Lulz and lolocaust.
Proud Boys. Saddle up big boyz.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 10:17 PM
That goes hard. Nice.
It's also something to remember when it comes to the illuminati I mean the vatican.
Im super bummed about the pope he seems chill and I was really looking forward to the last pope prophecy being real.
Jesus is Calculon.
He is the master of the dramatic...
...
.......
PAUSE!
That is the real truth. Testamental Cases unite!
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 10:21 PM
It's also something to remember when it comes to the illuminati I mean the vatican.
Im super bummed about the pope he seems chill and I was really looking forward to the last pope prophecy being real.
I can't imagine the building with the pope pics was always the same size. :p
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 10:23 PM
I can't imagine the building with the pope pics was always the same size. :p
my man.
Still hoping it could happen though maybe he'll do something like the German Christian movement that removed the Bible during the 30s to align christianity with Nazi ideology and promote an anti semitism.
He is the "american" pope. I bet a certain someone would be interested in adding his name to ye old testement's
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 10:24 PM
my man.
Still hoping it could happen though maybe he'll do something like the German Christian movement that removed the Bible during the 30s to align christianity with Nazi ideology and promote an anti semitism.
He is the "american" pope. I bet a certain someone would be interested in adding his name to ye old testement's
Wasn't one of those Tom Hanks book movies with an American pope or pope candidate?
I think he fell off a helicopter into a fire.
The evil guy.
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 10:28 PM
I haven't watched all those movies I have been meaning to, i saw the first one and liked it a lot.
Reiwa
08-11-2025, 10:38 PM
I haven't watched all those movies I have been meaning to, i saw the first one and liked it a lot.
my bad sorry
shovelquest
08-11-2025, 10:40 PM
No its all good, makes me want to see them now!
arvidez
08-12-2025, 01:12 AM
Humility has more utility than pride.
SorenVC
08-12-2025, 04:11 AM
So I just woke up in the morning, and now there are 10 pages. I'm not gonna read all that ****. But I'm glad that you like my post.
Castle2.0
08-12-2025, 12:39 PM
Ackshually, they are all in the Bible, they just aren't in a tidy list. Read Proverbs. Gain wisdom. Escape Norrath <3
SorenVC
08-12-2025, 12:46 PM
Humility painting according to wikipedia.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Tadeusz_Gorecki_-_Humility.jpg
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