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tefog

08-01-2011, 11:08 PM

Comapavik

08-01-2011, 11:49 PM

Look up Sebilite Scale armor. It's chain but pretty much all of it is better than any old world plate peices. Also, Blood Ember armor.

Your prices for the weapons are too high.
Darkforge Breastplate.
I would look at a Bracer of Scavenging or Flayed Skin over Granite.
Tattered Mantle.

Darian

08-01-2011, 11:50 PM

Ultimate twink set:
Weapon: Mithril 2H 7-9k / Dark Reaver 1-1.5k
Chest: Mithril 500pp or Brigande 1k
Earrings: Diamondine Earrings x2 1500pp, Black Sapphire x2 10k
Arms: Mithril 3-4k
Legs: Mithril 3-4k
Head: Hammerhead helm 7-10k or SSB 300-500pp
Feet: Dwarven work boots 300-500pp or Darkforge boots 300-500pp
Rings: Djarn's 8-10k + 55HP 250pp
Face: Grotesque mask 300pp
Neck: +7str, +7int 300-500pp or black sapphire +55hp/mana 5k
Waist: Thick Banded Belt 2-3k or FBSS 11-14k. (I would go with Mith 2 hand/TBB.)
Bracers: Granite Bracers 3-4k / Hero Bracers 300pp
Ranged: Dragoon Dirk 50pp or Runed Bone Fork 500pp
Shoulders: Bloodstained Mantle 50-100pp, Crested Spaulders 400-500pp
Gloves: Darkmail Gauntlets 300pp, Gem Inlaid Gauntlets 300pp
Back: Cloak of Shadows 1.5-2k, Hooded Black Cloak 2-3k

This is all pre kunark! I would like to know the Kunark items that are better please let me know

1) Do you have a budget/spending limit? If so, aim for Iksar BP first (25k-ish).
2) There are a lot better Kunark weapons than the ones you're talking about. Have you been away from game for a while? Mith 2H hasn't been worth 7-9k for like a year. You can find one for 1k if you're patient and you can't afford a haste item.
3) Blood Ember is the Sk class armor. No one will be selling the BP or legs for a while but the other pieces (helm, arms, boots, gaunts, bracer) will be the best AC for you. As an SK you want AC/HP over stats.
4) Ranged- Idol of the Thorned. Best melee range item. 14k or so.
5) Face- Mask of Wurms or Sarnak-Hide Mask

Motec

08-02-2011, 12:50 AM

Tranix crown
Fungi tunic
NoS
RBG/SBC/RBB/CoF (budget brah)
Hiero cloak
BS ears
Atra shield and ebon mace
runed bone fork or idol of thorned
Blood ember boots/bracer/vambraces
Incardnine legs
Hero bracer or hardened clay
Gold diamond mask or sarnak hide mask
gaunts of potence
TBB if haste on back

Supaskillz

08-02-2011, 12:56 AM

posting how I twinked my sk, with some thoughts and other ideas as well

Weapon: Rod of Mourning(ebon mace/atra shield is a good cheaper alternative)
Chest: darkforge and iksar ceremonial chestplate (incarnadine and fungi are better)
Earrings: Black Sapphire (fingerbone hoop is better)
Arms: darkforge
Legs: darkforge(icarnadine is slightly better)
Head: SSB
Feet:Darkforge boots (there is also iksar hide)
Rings: Djarn's, 55HP
Face: Mask of Wurms
Neck: black sapphire +55hp/mana (NoS is better)
Waist: FBSS (sash of dragon born of rbg if you can afford)
Bracers: Granite Bracers, bracer of scavenging(hero if your race can wear)
Ranged: idol of the thorned
Shoulders: Crested Spaulders or tattered mantle
Gloves: sebilite scale gloves
Back: Hiero cloak( hbc is good too)

greatdane

08-02-2011, 10:01 AM

This would probably be the very best gear:

Ears: Fingerbone Hoop and/or 35/25 JC earring(s)
Neck: Necklace of Superiority
Face: Not really sure, there's not much high-end twink gear here
Head: Blood Ember Helm - might want to get resist gear as well, like Tranix/frog crown

Fingers: 55/5 rings (they're better than Djarn's for a tank, though if you go with fungi, Djarn's might be necessary to offset the -10 agi)
Wrists: Blood Ember Bracers
Arms: Blood Ember Vambraces
Hands: Blood Ember Gauntlets

Shoulders: Crested Spaulders or Tattered Mantle - when the Hole opens, it'll be Imbued Granite Spaulders if your race can wear them
Chest: Fungi or Blood Ember Breastplate
Back: Hierophant's Cloak or Cloak of Flames (SBC might be more realistic)
Waist: If you went with a haste cloak, probably just TBB. If not, RBB (or, more realistically, RBG)
Legs: Blood Ember Greaves
Feet: Blood Ember Boots

Primary: Ebon Mace
Secondary: Atramentous Shield
Range: Idol of the Thorned (also get a RBF for resist set)

Resist set consists of:
JC diamond rings, earrings, mask
Tranix and/or frog crown
Runed Bone Fork
Optional golden wolf's eye bracelets
White Gold Necklace if you didn't get NoS

tefog

08-02-2011, 11:54 AM

I have been away for 6 months but not only that i never played kunark

tefog

08-02-2011, 11:54 AM

oh its an OGRE btw. With a 40k budget

Ele

08-02-2011, 11:57 AM

Earring of Essence +10mr +30hp
Enshrouded Veil 7ac +2wis/int +30hp/mana

greatdane

08-02-2011, 01:39 PM

With a 40k budget

Ears: Diamondine Earring x2 - 750-1k each
Neck: Glowing Bone Collar - 500ish
Face: Just whatever. Sarnak-hide Mask or something - under 500
Head: Blood Ember Helm *

Fingers: 55/5 x2 - 450 or something
Wrists: Blood Ember Bracer x2 *
Arms: Blood Ember Vambraces *
Hands: Blood Ember Gauntlets *

Shoulders: Crested Spaulders - 300ish
Chest: Enameled Black Chestplate - 50?
Back: Hooded Black Cloak - 3kish
Waist: FBSS - 13k
Legs: Darkforge Leggings - 600ish (hard to find for sale)
Feet: Blood Ember Boots *

Primary: Ebon Mace - 10k? (not often for sale, maybe get Noct blade or even MoSS for cheaper)
Atramentous Shield - 10-15k, very rarely for sale and everyone wants to buy one
Ranged: Runed Bone Fork - 250ish

Alternately, instead of 1h/shield: Granite Face Grinder - dunno price, shouldn't be more than mace+shield

Also: Circlet of Shadow - 2500ish

* Blood Ember pieces are a bit tricky. Most Kunark class off-pieces without a valuable clicky are worth barely more than their vendor price, but there's so many SK twinks and there doesn't seem to be a set price for BE pieces. Try for 1k each, though bracers might be a bit more because they didn't drop until a couple of months ago.

This might exceed your budget a little, but if you have 40k for a twink, presumably you have a main that can camp some of these items. CoS and the old-world items can be camped with any level 50ish solo class. The above outfit has the added bonus of looking snazzy.

Supaskillz

08-02-2011, 01:46 PM

First of all let me laugh at the comment that 55hp/5ac rings are better than djarns. Even at level 11 my sk gets 23ac from djarns ring and 7 ac from 5ac 55hp ring. Agility improves your ac. In addition agility improves you ability to avoid being hit(although the effect is small above 75 agility).

With 40k budget I think I would do something like this( I sorta guessed on prices)

Weapon: noct blade, moss, or ebon mace(8-15k), clay guardian shield(1k?)
Chest: darkforge (1k)
Earrings: diamondine earings(1.5kish for pair)
Arms: darkforge(400)
Legs: darkforge(800)
Head: SSB(500)
Feet; darkforge boots (400)
Rings: 2x 55HP(500 pair)
Face: Mask of Wurms (1-2k)
Neck: black sapphire +55hp/mana (4k)
Waist: FBSS (13k)
Bracers: Granite Bracers(2.5), bracer of scavenging(1.5)
Ranged: runed bone fork(500)
Shoulders: Crested Spaulders(300)
Gloves: sebilite scale gloves (500)
Back: hooded black cloak(3k)

generally hp(or sta) and ac matter most as a group tank, but if you solo alot via fear kiting str becomes relatively more important as does mana(or int).

greatdane

08-02-2011, 01:47 PM

Even at level 11 my sk gets 23ac from djarns ring and 7 ac from 5ac 55hp ring

That's either a blatant lie or you fucked up and didn't put 5 points in agility to get a 75 base. 9 agi doesn't give 23AC, it gives 3, unless that 9 agi is what puts you above 75 to avoid the <75 penalty.

And lol @ your stat-heavy, AC-less setup for a tank class. If you wear 0 AC in any slot save for your haste slot and ranged where anything with AC costs a fortune, you're doing it wrong. Why would you ever recommend things like Darkforge, seb scale and those wrists when Blood Ember is easily within his price range (and in some cases cheaper)?

In addition agility improves you ability to avoid being hit(although the effect is small above 75 agility).

Myth and/or incorrectly implemented eqemu feature. Agility did not help your avoidance any more than the meager AC it provides. It's never worth going for agility unless you're under 75, and if you have the slightest clue, you'll never have a character with under 75 agility.

Supaskillz

08-02-2011, 02:14 PM

That's either a blatant lie or you fucked up and didn't put 5 points in agility to get a 75 base. 9 agi doesn't give 23AC, it gives 3, unless that 9 agi is what puts you above 75 to avoid the <75 penalty.

And lol @ your stat-heavy, AC-less setup for a tank class. If you wear 0 AC in any slot save for your haste slot and ranged where anything with AC costs a fortune, you're doing it wrong. Why would you ever recommend things like Darkforge, seb scale and those wrists when Blood Ember is easily within his price range (and in some cases cheaper)?

Myth and/or incorrectly implemented eqemu feature. Agility did not help your avoidance any more than the meager AC it provides. It's never worth going for agility unless you're under 75, and if you have the slightest clue, you'll never have a character with under 75 agility.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=72221&postcount=6 (http://http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=72221&postcount=6)

This is linked from the FAQ page
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002&highlight=agility

So they are lying on the FAQ or you are wrong about the agility not having an effect on avoidance.

You are correct about it putting me below the threshold without my djarns ring. I was wearing my RoM which is -5 agi so the ring only gives 4ac when above 75 instead of 7 from the 55hp/ac rings, but still I think 25hp>3ac.

I tend to think Hp generally is more valuable than AC since you will be taking CHs. I would take darkforge +10sta over the 5 extra ac from enameled black chest all day. The necklace is prolly close taking 5ac or extra 30 hp. On bracers you are most likely correct that blood ember is better since you are giving up 11ac there for 7 sta. Sebilite scale gloves(12ac 4agi/int 2sv magic/dis) are cheap and I went slightly over 40k as it is and are are only a tiny downgrade from BE.