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Rowl
08-20-2025, 07:12 PM
If you play TLPs you play a trivialized version of the game.

You're not on there to play EQ, you're there to use your knowledge of a two decade year old game to RMT your way into just below minimum wage. You're superior to lazy players in a version of the game that's set to easy.

The struggle of EQ or video games isn't what I'm saying makes someone better than others, I'm saying games on life support that claim a service for players and customers is one thing, but then obviously look the other way and you could say they're built on fraud.

You might as well play a private server, where you know there could be corruption and made up rules that are enforced at the wimps of admins, rather than a company that claims a solid terms of service, then looks the other way as long as their bread is buttered.

shovelquest
08-20-2025, 07:16 PM
THJ is gonna own everquest soon don't worry.

shovelquest
08-20-2025, 07:17 PM
THJ to all the emus's that didn't support them 😏

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Ekco
08-20-2025, 07:40 PM
If you play EverQuest, you're not playing Dungeons and Dragons; you're playing a trivialized version of it.

You aren't there to role-play. You're there to use your knowledge of decades of D&D lore to exploit a simple system for fun, essentially RMTing your way into just below minimum immersion. You get to feel superior to actual role-players in a game that's been set to easy mode.

The true struggle of a fantasy simulation game isn't what makes a player "better" than another. The issue is when a game on life support claims to be a service for its players but then turns a blind eye to its own broken systems. At that point, the whole thing is built on fraud.

You might as well play a private table, where you know there could be corruption and made-up rules enforced on the whim of a Dungeon Master, rather than a company that claims a solid terms of service but then looks the other way as long as their bread is buttered.

send carrier pigeon

Jimjam
08-20-2025, 08:51 PM
Roflmao ^ xx

Sadre Spinegnawer
08-21-2025, 11:15 AM
Most entertainment industries are money laundering operations.

Or do you think Kanye is just that talented? Kpop is the worst. Billions of smuggling money, while we cheer the bixies.

But Darkpaw is owned by immoral people. FTE is a crime.

zelld52
08-21-2025, 11:59 AM
I prefer my Money Laundering to be paid directly to actor's salaries so they can dress in Comic Book outfits and act in front of green screen.

Two-fold: It is humiliating for the actors, who wanted to act with other humans - and instead they are acting with the key grip who is holding a 4 ft pole with the Hulk's face on it.
And you get your money washed.

shovelquest
08-21-2025, 12:51 PM
Ive not heard that conspiracy but I like it.

Sadre Spinegnawer
08-21-2025, 02:03 PM
You can hear proof of the conspiracy by listening to Kanye West.

The legit front often gets a perk from being the legit front. But the entertainment bidness has taken it to levels that are jaw-dropping. The Kardashian family is laundering the entire Sinaloa Cartel. That's over 3/4 of a trillion dollars a year.

Boxing used to do this, then pro wrestling. But celebrity culture -- which genuinely produces nothing -- is the chef's kiss of money laundering.

shovelquest
08-21-2025, 02:20 PM
You can hear proof of the conspiracy by listening to Kanye West.

I no longer like this conspiracy theory.

Wakanda
08-21-2025, 02:32 PM
Project 1999 is vastly superior to TLPs, but I think TLP is actually dramatically harder than P99 unless you don't mind being subpar and below average.

When a TLP first launches all of the top items in the game are basically locked down by professional players. There's no PNP to protect you from this. People will literally walk up on top of your group and steal stuff. You know how you think the FTE will make it harder for players to KS you? It actually makes it easier. I can't tell you how many times I've had a single player walk passed our group, and pull a rare mob from our camp passed us as we're unable to stop them.

Secondly, on P99, just because you can't camp a rare item doesn't mean you can't purchase it, right? Well good luck doing that without spending real life money. Guards, Hill Giants aren't the cash crop they are on P99. Treants don't exist etc.

Thirdly, the mechanics play completely different. You know how root is a huge form of CC on P99? It's borderline useless on TLPs. Mobs are also smarter too. I've talked about this with my fellow P99 friends who played over on TLPs with me because they noticed it too. I'm playing a Cleric. I haven't even stood up to cast a spell, and the mob literally drops aggro from the tank and runs across the room and begins attacking me instead because it recognizes I'm the healer and targets me accordingly. I almost never have enough mana to fully buff my group when I play my cleric.

Fourthly, playing on TLP will actually make you better at P99, no exaggeration. People on P99 always point out how insane I am at CC on my Enchanter compared to other Enchanters they've played with. This is because I played on TLPs. Where it's the norm for your group to be chain pulling 30 frogloks on top of you at any given time for hours on end. While you're still expected to charm a pet and what not.

But another huge learning lesson you can get from a TLP that you won't get on P99, is learning the insides of zones. I doubt the average person I meet on P99 would be able to run through Sebilis, The Hole, or Sol B without getting lost or killed. On TLPs - make a Monk - your groups will require you to pull to Efreeti, run all over The Hole pulling mobs, it's super common to get invited to a group in Sebilis or even Chardok and have to solo navigate your way to the Fungus King or Chef. I feel like the average player on P99 would never have enough experience to do this. Hell, I even learned the insides of Howling Stones because again, players regularly group there, unlike on P99.

Now when I play on P99 I know how to comfortably get to most places in the game because I spent so much time in these same exact zones on TLP. Velk's lab is another good example. Groups outside the castle are super common, and pulling from inside the castle and you learn how to avoid the trap etc. Again, the average player is never going to get this kind of experience from playing on P99.

Lastly, one of the hugest parts of TLP is the multi-boxing. Which I actually hate, but ended up doing it because I do have multiple computers at my desk for work-related purposes. It started off small. My friend told me I could use their Druid to teleport myself around when they weren't online. Then I decided I might as well keep the Druid in my group for extra heals, and then my other friend asked me to help them level their character, and gave me access to their account as well. At one point I was literally playing a Cleric, Enc, and Wiz all at one time. This made me realize it's easier to play a Cleric and Wizard simultaneously than it is to play a single Enchanter or Shaman.

I genuinely feel like I took years of my life off of playing 3 characters at once because of how strenuous it was, I was having to swivel around in my chair from keyboard to keyboard and it was super disorienting the entire time to the point I would feel dizzy and almost pass out in my chair after 12 hours. But it felt like gimping yourself if you didn't play like this.

Again, I don't like boxing and I'm glad it's illegal on P99. Not only does it give a major advantage, it makes classes like Cleric become bot characters. No one mains a Cleric on TLP because it would be pointless. But for me this is another part of TLP that makes the game way harder. If you aren't boxing then you aren't competitive or playing at a high level, and are extremely gimped compared to the large amount of people who are boxing. And that crap is super physically demanding.

In closing, this is not a plug for TLP. I haven't played a TLP in over a year, and am actually in the process of downloading Project Epoch to try that out. I just don't share the idea that TLPs are super easy and P99 is super hard. I just remembered another that makes P99 dramatically easier is the fact that the game is relatively static. One of the things I really dislike about TLP is if you take a break from the game for 2 weeks, a new expac has probably already came out and now you're super behind. That feature of the game gives it a very modern WoW-esque feeling where it feels like you are required to constantly log in and play, whereas with P99 I have character I've been leveling for YEARS and I don't feel as pressured that I'm going to be punished severely for taking a hiatus.

Wakanda
08-21-2025, 02:45 PM
Also another thing that makes TLP harder is soloing isn’t really a thing unless you are multi boxing. Solo experience on TLPs is so slow compared to grouping that by the time you hit max level from soloing you would be weeks behind everyone else. Again, part of what makes P99 chill is being able to solo at your own leisure rather than being forced to join a group every time you play. And players tend to be more cutthroat on TLP due to the competitive nature of having no PNP. I’ve seen a lot of people get kicked out of groups over minor stuff. Meanwhile on P99 almost every group I’ve joined has at least one dude who spends almost the entire time AFK before announcing he has wife aggro and has to leave. This would get you kicked with a quickness on TLPs.

So having to like fully dedicate yourself to a group for hours at a time because thee is no solo afk camp viability, again, makes TLP harder imho.

Sadre Spinegnawer
08-22-2025, 02:44 PM
power level like a pro with Team TLP. Financing available.

Get your crew together, today!

Ekco
08-22-2025, 02:48 PM
power level like a pro with Team TLP. Financing available.

Get your crew together, today!

if they paid someone to code mercenaries correctly they could shut down redguides and post a quarter of 10000% growth, just capture that monthly fee people pay to them 6box on live

https://media.tenor.com/FvCNaiwSe2YAAAAM/good-idea.gif

then they could leave emu projects the fuck alone for a bit.

Ekco
08-22-2025, 02:52 PM
>pay to them 6box on live
to box on live*

then just focus on skins and other micro-transactions, have the 5 mercs shooting particle effects out their ass and top notch MQ levels of automation and people will pay.

Infectious
08-22-2025, 03:34 PM
Sounds like a broke person thread. Go outside and be happy.

Ekco
08-22-2025, 03:45 PM
Sounds like a broke person thread. Go outside and be happy.

of the 8.142 billion people on earth, none are as broke as the people who care about everquest pvp in 2025

hope this helps.

https://www.eveonline.com/

Ekco
08-22-2025, 03:46 PM
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