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Drueric
08-22-2025, 07:13 AM
Just curious, but why does those quests have a level restriction but epics do not? I mean, Ive seen lvl 1 toons with epics, why are those not level restricted also?

Shouldnt rules be consistent?

Ekco
08-22-2025, 07:53 AM
both are bottlenecks but epics are more spread out with each individual class with indivudal mobs then slight overlaps with the raid mobs where the Velious roll camps are bottlenecks for giant swaths of classes at one centralized point in space time.

also 99% of epics have lvl req 46 iirc, only time you see a rogue with a epic at low level is due to deleveling unless I'm mistaken

>Shouldnt rules be consistent?
nah, fuck it.

zelld52
08-22-2025, 08:46 AM
also 99% of epics have lvl req 46 iirc, only time you see a rogue with a epic at low level is due to deleveling unless I'm mistaken


The only way lowbie rogues with epics is possible is if they completed the quest before the patch to make all epics require level 46. You can't equip your gear that you loot off your corpse if you delevel and it has a level requirement.

100% of epics have requirement level 46

azxten
08-22-2025, 04:37 PM
I remember on EQ live equipping epics on level 1 characters because the check on level restriction is client side. Meaning you had to haxor to do it. I vaguely recall something about being able to equip items in any slot as well and people having those +hp rings in every slot at level 1. You could also haxor the shared bank in whatever expansion that was and transfer your epic to a level 1. EQ had no concept of security and anti cheat. As a side note I still wonder how secure the EQ client itself is considering you're connecting to emulated servers with modified code.

chillybob
08-23-2025, 06:14 PM
Just curious, but why does those quests have a level restriction but epics do not? I mean, Ive seen lvl 1 toons with epics, why are those not level restricted also?

Shouldnt rules be consistent?

hate to be the bearer of bad news but a level 1 toon with an epic is impossibru, im pretty sure the exp gained of any epic quest skyrockets that toon from 1 to around level 10 !!!
:cool: ... and if they are a deleveled toon they can only max out at level 4!!! :cool:

Ciderpress
08-24-2025, 12:53 PM
I bought an executioner's axe off ebay in 1999 for 60 dollars, using money I made from selling my ultima online account on ebay for 800 dollars. I was 13 and my parents were like wtf is going on lol

Swish
08-25-2025, 03:14 AM
The only way lowbie rogues with epics is possible is if they completed the quest before the patch to make all epics require level 46.

That patch came about after Brad McQuaid himself was talking to the staff here right? He said he didn't think it was right that a level 1 rogue could wield an epic weapon.

All in an aside while promoting Pantheon many years ago.

zelld52
08-25-2025, 08:50 AM
That patch came about after Brad McQuaid himself was talking to the staff here right? He said he didn't think it was right that a level 1 rogue could wield an epic weapon.

All in an aside while promoting Pantheon many years ago.

Not sure when it came about exactly, but I remember my friend quitting p99 about 3 years ago because he AFKd on his level 13 epic rogue and got killed in Oasis - and quit because "Now I have to get back to level 46 to equip the epic"

Even though the worn effect didn't take hold until level 46, you still got the stat bonus.