The (new) Space Thread 🌌📡🔭🗿🛸🤖

[shovelquest]

Looks like we crashed out in the last space thread. (https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315310&highlight=spacex&page=9)

Cool rocket launch today! Space is cool get me out of here!

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[Ekco]

World's most powerful solar telescope sees incredible coronal loops on the sun (image)
Keith Cooper published 17 hours ago


https://i.imgur.com/IrLN8Uf.png

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/JwCpy23.png

[Ekco]

The approaching comets include:

C/2025 A6 (Lemmon), closest to Earth on October 21, 2025
C/2025 K1 (Atlas), closest to Earth on November 24-25, 2025
3I/Atlas, the 3rd interstellar object discovered, closest to Earth on December 18-19, 2025
24P/Schanmasse, closest to Earth on January 4, 2026
C/2024 E1 (Wierzchos), closest to Earth on February 17, 2026
https://earthsky.org/space/5-bright-comets-approaching-earth-charts-2025-2026/


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[Duik]

Billionaires only wanna go to space because guillotines require (local) gravity to function.

[xsturmn8_BLx]

starship is a sad boondoggle. That guy from SpaceX is lucky he never lost control of the narrative with respect to him being unable to deliver us to the Moon on time as promised. I admittedly don't know a huge amount about the program's progress, and I have heard the Artemis timeline was bungled in more than 1 way, but fact is the rocket does not exist after 10 years and it was supposed to be fully ready for NASA use when, 2 years ago? That's what the taxpayer paid the guy for, anyhow. Where's the beef?

Btw, that guy's been going 'round lately saying we should skip the Moon return and Artemis (for which purpose he was already paid to deliver a rocket.) because it's too easy. We should just aim for Mars instead and cut him even bigger checks into his personal bank account for even more ephemeral deliverables 3-5 years off. Seems legit as always.

Oh, a future where NASA is rebloated and renationalized. I work with old scientific equipment and it's all so hardy & wonderful thanks to those monster contracts up through the Space Shuttle era. Requirements for repairability, statistical analysis by the customer on failure rates of bulk purchases, etc. It was nice. It's funny how this little market & industry mirror the beauty of the space program and provide me material benefits thanks to it.

This had a fair amount to do with Bell / AT&T as a monster negotiator and consumer too. I understand Bell-AT&T was like 50% of all revenues at Hewlett Packard during the peak of their test equipment era. HP in that era is my Apple. The stuff is SO GOOD.

Anyway, a good 20% of surplus gear I see in some domains has NASA tags. And it ALL works 30, 40, 50 years hence. Then it falls off fast in the mid-2000s. Now they don't even make the damn stuff anymore! Do it all with an oscilloscope. Call it petulant, I know manufacturing changed, everything's in the box etc, but for the sake of this post's rhetoric I choose to blame it all on NASA privatization. It's emblematic, at least.

Oops, I went on a little long. OP is right: space is cool. I got inspired. Here's wishing my kids can witness American flags painted on rockets completing fantastic feats some year soon. Pretty rockets with white paint, dignified colorful paint jobs, and so forth. Rockets that are 100% disconnected from any individual's ego and bring light to the world from every American. You know what I mean.

[shovelquest]

IDk there would still be zero rocket ship production whatsoever without that guy.

This is what ego-less space travel looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/0lVDtV2.png

[Reiwa]

starship is a sad boondoggle. That guy from SpaceX is lucky he never lost control of the narrative with respect to him being unable to deliver us to the Moon on time as promised. I admittedly don't know a huge amount about the program's progress, and I have heard the Artemis timeline was bungled in more than 1 way, but fact is the rocket does not exist after 10 years and it was supposed to be fully ready for NASA use when, 2 years ago? That's what the taxpayer paid the guy for, anyhow. Where's the beef?

Btw, that guy's been going 'round lately saying we should skip the Moon return and Artemis (for which purpose he was already paid to deliver a rocket.) because it's too easy. We should just aim for Mars instead and cut him even bigger checks into his personal bank account for even more ephemeral deliverables 3-5 years off. Seems legit as always.

Oh, a future where NASA is rebloated and renationalized. I work with old scientific equipment and it's all so hardy & wonderful thanks to those monster contracts up through the Space Shuttle era. Requirements for repairability, statistical analysis by the customer on failure rates of bulk purchases, etc. It was nice. It's funny how this little market & industry mirror the beauty of the space program and provide me material benefits thanks to it.

This had a fair amount to do with Bell / AT&T as a monster negotiator and consumer too. I understand Bell-AT&T was like 50% of all revenues at Hewlett Packard during the peak of their test equipment era. HP in that era is my Apple. The stuff is SO GOOD.

Anyway, a good 20% of surplus gear I see in some domains has NASA tags. And it ALL works 30, 40, 50 years hence. Then it falls off fast in the mid-2000s. Now they don't even make the damn stuff anymore! Do it all with an oscilloscope. Call it petulant, I know manufacturing changed, everything's in the box etc, but for the sake of this post's rhetoric I choose to blame it all on NASA privatization. It's emblematic, at least.

Oops, I went on a little long. OP is right: space is cool. I got inspired. Here's wishing my kids can witness American flags painted on rockets completing fantastic feats some year soon. Pretty rockets with white paint, dignified colorful paint jobs, and so forth. Rockets that are 100% disconnected from any individual's ego and bring light to the world from every American. You know what I mean.

The purpose of hiring the guy who's hopped up on goofballs was to find ways to make space lift less expensive per ton, not reach the moon, which is not only pointless but also has already been done. That's the deliverable.

Has he done so?

Private sector is usually pretty good at making products more efficiently so they can squeeze a maximum profit out of each unit.

[shovelquest]

"wow so that was a cool space program for the last 60 years, can we do anything with all this innovation?"

"We made velcro."

"But like, can we explore, mine, or make life better with all this incredible technology?"

"We made velcro."

"..."

"Oh we also made tang!"

[Reiwa]

"wow so that was a cool space program for the last 60 years, can we do anything with all this innovation?"

"We made velcro."

"But like, can we explore, mine, or make life better with all this incredible technology?"

"We made velcro."

"..."

"Oh we also made tang!"

His real business is launching satellites. Satellites that some of which provide internet to remote regions. Remote regions that are now able to purchase velcro products on the e-web. :D

[Reiwa]

You'd have to evaluate the previous cost of said launching(s) and what it is today to see if the investment was 'worth' it.

[shovelquest]

Last time the state made rockets it strapped 50 megaton warheads on them and threatened killing every god damn person on the planet if we dont respect its ego.

[Reiwa]

Last time the state made rockets it strapped 50 megaton warheads on them and threatened killing every god damn person on the planet if we dont respect its ego.

I don't see the advantage of having the price of a NASA janitor's government pension built into my price when I'm purchasing a satellite communication uplink for my right-wing Christian freedom militia compound in rural Montana.

[shovelquest]

We need more state run mass death machines because the private sector keeps NOT using them to kill 50,000 people.

[Ekco]

not reach the moon, which is not only pointless but also has already been done.

we need moon base / orbital shipyard one way or the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Horizon

ending the cold war was a disaster for mankind.

[shovelquest]

*shocked pokimon

You want to use it to mine minerals we use to make technology that doctors use to increase the life expectancy of everyone on earth?

Excuse me mr EGO, but we have 50,000 people to kill in the name of whatever someone who did nothing their entire lives until a bunch of retards voted for him wants to do.

[Reiwa]

We need more state run mass death machines because the private sector keeps NOT using them to kill 50,000 people.

Doing business with bad people is usually better for everyone.

Including the aforementioned fat womanizing serial philanderer.

[shovelquest]

I think hating people (or at least not fitting in) is what drives highly productive people.

If they fit into our douchebag ass society, they would just enjoy doing nothing like everyone else does.

[shovelquest]

*thinks in history

Rather than a single act of "nationalization," the Nazi regime's control over rocket production evolved over time, becoming more state-run and militarized. The state's control was a result of increasing military interest, especially from the SS, and a massive expansion of manufacturing that relied on concentration camp slave labor.

https://i.imgur.com/YAYMjlM.png

[Reiwa]

we need moon base / orbital shipyard one way or the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Horizon

ending the cold war was a disaster for mankind.

I recall being promised a moon base in 2012 (delivery 2020). :p

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[Ekco]

I recall being promised a moon base in 2012 (delivery 2020). :p


i actually really enjoyed his political lectures, he taught poly sci somewhere i forget and the classes were uploaded to youtube

dude was way too smug and fugly to ever be potus though

[shovelquest]

I remember being promised something in 2012 too :mad:

Almost got my delivery in 2020.

Still wishing on the monkeys paw (for world peace) every day.

[Ekco]

I'm still wishing for the fungi or octopus to step up and take their rightful place as overlords of earf.

not the whales though, fuck the whales.

[shovelquest]

Will be a brief window of some pretty epic tentacle porn.

[Ekco]

are we still waiting on T Coronae Borealis to explode?

Show thinking
Yes, we're still waiting. While earlier predictions suggested the eruption of T Coronae Borealis (T CrB) could have happened by late 2024, it has not yet occurred. Astronomers still expect it to happen soon, though, and it remains a much-anticipated event.

Regarding a prediction for the end of this month (September 2025), there's no single, universally agreed-upon date. However, a prediction published in October 2024 suggested possible eruption dates, including November 10, 2025. Other forecasts based on the star's dimming and brightening patterns suggest a timeframe as broad as mid-2025 to late 2026.

The key takeaway from the latest observations is that the star is exhibiting behaviors similar to those seen before its 1946 outburst, such as a "pre-eruption dip" in brightness. This continues to lead astronomers to believe the nova is imminent on an astronomical timescale, even if the exact day, week, or even month is unknown.

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[atomicpaul]

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[Ephirith]

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lol

btw, it's not any kind of matter or anything at all it's just the shape of spacetime, like little ditches in the fabric of reality that all the matter and time collects in

[shovelquest]

OHHH now the scientific community DOESN'T know what they are talking about??!

OH hOH hOHhhhhhhh.

Would be a shame if they thought cigarettes and vaccines are good for you.

[xsturmn8_BLx]

The purpose of hiring the guy who's hopped up on goofballs was to find ways to make space lift less expensive per ton, not reach the moon, which is not only pointless but also has already been done. That's the deliverable.

Has he done so?

Private sector is usually pretty good at making products more efficiently so they can squeeze a maximum profit out of each unit.

Well, I don't think we are talking about the same thing! I took a screenshot of an AI summary but I don't know how to upload it! So I'll put it in my own way.

Yes, I guess Barack Obama or whoever it was 'hired' the crosseyed guy with the alt-medicine family fortune because he promised us 100x decreases in cost-to-orbit and final delivery on the homeopathic cure for cancer his Grandpa and Great-Grandpa sold all over North America between (as far back as we know) the 1890s and 1940, making the Musk-Haldemann crime family fabulously wealthy and powerful. These promises were not made good, though I must admit cost-to-orbit has gone incrementally down... with the decades and the scale of shipments to orbit.

But that fella with the bad dad and all those substance & personality disorders was hired again, separately, for the Artemis program, with specific moon-related deliverables he has also failed to deliver, 'cause the Starship vehicle has been a decadelong boondoggle of poorly considered design requirements and, I'd assume, other forms of mismanagement. I wonder what that failure to develop a product where others have succeeded says about the practice of extrapolating as truisms larger systems theories about The Free Market, in this case to a single case of one company run by a dictator-owner, highly-leveraged with competing personal financial interests all over-- and also hobbled by drug use. Shouldn't the Perfect Market embodied by that addled and desperate dictator develop products with Perfect competency? Not like those government things which are run so arbitrarily! But that's neither here nor there, Reiwa, and I know you didn't exactly make those arguments :p Just musing.

Since SpaceX started missing those Artemis deadlines, the protagonist from "Speed" (that movie was about getting rich on scams and doing crank with hookers until your heart explodes, right?) has started saying we should skip Artemis altogether and cut him more checks sight unseen on any deliverables. This time, for going straight to Mars! Well howboutdat turn from the most trustworthy man in the world Scammer, son of Scammer, after accepting billions of our dollars for Artemis and giving the taxpayer nothing back?

My understanding is that Artemis was delayed in other ways, too, which got the heat off of SpaceX for its simultaneous failure to provide NASA a rocket to ride on. So there is that.

To my knowledge very little reporting exists that might educate us on this, and hobbyist places where it's discussed are drowned in lunacy & company astroturfing, so I am only communicating my personal and murky understanding to you. I hope someone will let me know if I'm way off base about SpaceX's failings relative to Artemis. Drugged-up foreign criminals from 100-year dynasties of scam artistry should not wholly control the US space program, though, and I'm sure about that part! It's a shame on us that we've remade the US Space Program into the Haldemann Homeopathic Space Program. We did not have to do that in order to enjoy the benefits of the economy of scale to which Reiwa referred. Now, off my little soapbox.

[shovelquest]

This guy says he got a meteorite and it started growing stuff and now he's growing aliens, or his tiktok following. One or the other

https://www.tiktok.com/@kinpanama

https://i.imgur.com/7bpulRI.gif

[Reiwa]

This guy says he got a meteorite and it started growing stuff and now he's growing aliens, or his tiktok following. One or the other

https://www.tiktok.com/@kinpanama

https://i.imgur.com/7bpulRI.gif

Snails. He's torturing snails for likes.

[Reiwa]

Well, I don't think we are talking about the same thing! I took a screenshot of an AI summary but I don't know how to upload it! So I'll put it in my own way.

Yes, I guess Barack Obama or whoever it was 'hired' the crosseyed guy with the alt-medicine family fortune because he promised us 100x decreases in cost-to-orbit and final delivery on the homeopathic cure for cancer his Grandpa and Great-Grandpa sold all over North America between (as far back as we know) the 1890s and 1940, making the Musk-Haldemann crime family fabulously wealthy and powerful. These promises were not made good, though I must admit cost-to-orbit has gone incrementally down... with the decades and the scale of shipments to orbit.

But that fella with the bad dad and all those substance & personality disorders was hired again, separately, for the Artemis program, with specific moon-related deliverables he has also failed to deliver, 'cause the Starship vehicle has been a decadelong boondoggle of poorly considered design requirements and, I'd assume, other forms of mismanagement. I wonder what that failure to develop a product where others have succeeded says about the practice of extrapolating as truisms larger systems theories about The Free Market, in this case to a single case of one company run by a dictator-owner, highly-leveraged with competing personal financial interests all over-- and also hobbled by drug use. Shouldn't the Perfect Market embodied by that addled and desperate dictator develop products with Perfect competency? Not like those government things which are run so arbitrarily! But that's neither here nor there, Reiwa, and I know you didn't exactly make those arguments :p Just musing.

Since SpaceX started missing those Artemis deadlines, the protagonist from "Speed" (that movie was about getting rich on scams and doing crank with hookers until your heart explodes, right?) has started saying we should skip Artemis altogether and cut him more checks sight unseen on any deliverables. This time, for going straight to Mars! Well howboutdat turn from the most trustworthy man in the world Scammer, son of Scammer, after accepting billions of our dollars for Artemis and giving the taxpayer nothing back?

My understanding is that Artemis was delayed in other ways, too, which got the heat off of SpaceX for its simultaneous failure to provide NASA a rocket to ride on. So there is that.

To my knowledge very little reporting exists that might educate us on this, and hobbyist places where it's discussed are drowned in lunacy & company astroturfing, so I am only communicating my personal and murky understanding to you. I hope someone will let me know if I'm way off base about SpaceX's failings relative to Artemis. Drugged-up foreign criminals from 100-year dynasties of scam artistry should not wholly control the US space program, though, and I'm sure about that part! It's a shame on us that we've remade the US Space Program into the Haldemann Homeopathic Space Program. We did not have to do that in order to enjoy the benefits of the economy of scale to which Reiwa referred. Now, off my little soapbox.

SLS is the government rocket, with their traditional industry, being used for Artemis.

SpaceX rocket is called Starship? It's kinda a government rocket but not really a government rocket. Or maybe it's a landing system. Fuck.

[Reiwa]

Okey dokey

SpaceX has proposed a wide range of missions for Starship, such as deploying large satellites, space station modules, and space telescopes. A crewed variant, developed under contract with NASA, is called the Starship Human Landing System, which is scheduled to deliver astronauts to the Moon as part Artemis program, beginning with Artemis III currently scheduled for 2027.

So it's both the rocket, and the lander that is going to strand a few people on the moon.

[shovelquest]

So we have t o declare war on snails.

[atomicpaul]

declare? the war on snails has been ongoing for thousands of years, get with it bro

[shovelquest]

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[Duik]

So we have t o declare war on snails.

Yes. The snails write horrid messages on their own shells as a warning to those who are their enemies.

[Reiwa]

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[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/7YClqHY.png

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/7YClqHY.png

Stock up on chocolate and hamburgers before 31 atlas gets here.

[Ekco]

I'm still holding out hope for a gamma-ray burst.

[Ekco]

>space thread

there's a bot that tracks the piss tank levels on the ISS
https://i.imgur.com/blJrB0F.png

https://i.imgur.com/4XwFSAM.png

https://demos.lightstreamer.com/ISSLive/

[Lifebar]

For the last time, there is no space in these pants.

[shovelquest]

I'm still holding out hope for a gamma-ray burst.

If we nuke the planet in ww3 then the 1000 people that survive and rebuild the human race will be able to process radiation with their new thyroid glands and we'll be able to survive the intense radiation of space.

It is for the greater good.

[Reiwa]

>space thread

there's a bot that tracks the piss tank levels on the ISS
https://i.imgur.com/blJrB0F.png

https://i.imgur.com/4XwFSAM.png

https://demos.lightstreamer.com/ISSLive/

I think it's there because that's one of their maneuvers or operations, when they're pretending to vent the warp gas like real spacemen.

[Ekco]

The mysterious interstellar object 3I/ATLAS made its closest approach to Mars on October 3, with a blistering speed of 137,000 miles per hour, with several spacecraft orbiting the Red Planet already capturing what may be the clearest images yet of the rare comet.

https://i.imgur.com/PGM4uDb.gif

searched 3I/ATLAS on youtube hoping to find some nerd astronomer talking about it and it's just pages of AI slop alien/doomsday videos ;/

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/bmQtNze.png

😏

[shovelquest]

searched 3I/ATLAS on youtube hoping to find some nerd astronomer talking about it and it's just pages of AI slop alien/doomsday videos ;/

I like this guy so far

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and anton is awesome and does videos on it sometimes

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[Ekco]

I like this guy so far


Oooo the govt. shutdown, i totally misread that title and lumped it in with the other doomsday videos

[Ekco]

and anton is awesome and does videos on it sometimes
TPLwBU9G_Xw


that anton guy always looks like he's filming a hostage video or people in orange jumpsuits are about to cut his head off or something ;/ very unnerving. like the content though

[shovelquest]

:p hes old school youtube when that amateur look was considered personal.

I think he's ukranian too? iirc he had to evacuate somewhere at some point and his videos were even more hostage looking.

[Ekco]

I like this guy so far


i got like an hour into his stream today before realizing he was a nutter, still really good though, was like 99% science then he started talking about 3I/ATLAS and synchronicity and some woo woo shit.

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p sure the sun burping is connected to earthquakes though, he's right about that.

[shovelquest]

Yeah i was wondering if we can keep track of the next earthquakes and see if they all ceom from CME's ive heard that before more and more.

Once I met a youtuber in the wild and he asked me where I saw his channel and I said, "oh i watch some crazy ass shit on youtube so prob just in my algo"

He was like, "ahh cool!"

and later I began to wonder to this day if he took that as an insult.

[shovelquest]

Kinda makes sense with the CMEs if like, magnets in the rocks get jostled when the magnetic waves pass through the earth, and that causes the crust to crackle and that causes plate movements where there is pressure.

But I also feel like this when I type that.

https://i.imgur.com/ZFNHyrT.png

[shovelquest]

Oh how could I forget this guy Ekco, I like angry astronaut a lot. He always talking about UFOs and stuff. He covers general space stuff though.

I always like to watch him cover mass delusions because he doesn't get too delusional but always looks into delusional stuff.

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[shovelquest]

Right now 31 atlas is at the antipodal point of her nose... I mean the Sun.

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[Ekco]

OMG THE PERIHELION!
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guy is winning me over on astrology and how it's connected to earthquakes fr fr

also in other news rip spaceman ;/

[shovelquest]

I hope all the solar flares are the 31 atlas sucking u p all the energy of our star as it passes by and we're all gonna collapse into a small black hole.

[shovelquest]

AA's vids are cool.

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[shovelquest]

lmao 3i Atlas is like:

Everyone: "... "
AI YouTubes:

https://i.imgur.com/FUDIrDK.gif

[Ekco]

yeah i unsubbed from the astrology bro, pretty sure he's gonna make heaven's gate 2.0 or someshit.

Anton's the man, last like 3 videos have just been on random shit and not even doing 3i atlas stuff

[shovelquest]

oh you missed his the sun is made of giant slugs video then.

https://i.imgur.com/LRJGXOY.png

Anton's the man, last like 3 videos have just been on random shit and not even doing 3i atlas stuff

yeah he's great im glad u like him, i been watching him for like 10 years it feels like

[shovelquest]

Oh god I hope they bring back Elvis.

https://i.imgur.com/ci77arP.png

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/4GDY8a4.png

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15217903/interstellar-visitor-3I-ATLAS-reverse-thrust-vanishing-sun.html?ITO=applenews-au

https://i.imgur.com/PQ4Hb6K.png

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[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/4GDY8a4.png

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15217903/interstellar-visitor-3I-ATLAS-reverse-thrust-vanishing-sun.html?ITO=applenews-au

https://i.imgur.com/PQ4Hb6K.png

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3 days or so and the story will become the probes after Mr Comet starts heading away from us.

'In that case, the Oberth maneuver might apply to the mini-probes it releases at perihelion towards Solar system planets.'

'If 3I/ATLAS is a massive mothership, it will likely continue along its original gravitational path and ultimately exit the Solar system,' the professor shared in a Sunday blog post.

[shovelquest]

Based on our inability to just send a probe to this thing it is clear to me that we are not nearly as advanced as we thought we are. And essentially are in what will be known as the 2nd dark ages.

How tf is elon gonna send a car into space but not one fucking go pro this world we live in is like run by shamans not science.

[Ekco]

A piece of space debris, possibly a burnt-out rocket component, crashed in the Australian outback near Newman on Saturday (Oct. 18). While some social media speculation has linked the event to the 3I/ATLAS comet, the object is not the comet itself and is not a threat to Earth. The debris was made of carbon fiber and other aerospace materials, and its origin is being investigated by the Australian Space Agency.

they lying, the ayylmaos have landed in the outback and started their invasion
https://i.imgur.com/87ikLZk.jpeg

[Reiwa]

Based on our inability to just send a probe to this thing it is clear to me that we are not nearly as advanced as we thought we are. And essentially are in what will be known as the 2nd dark ages.

How tf is elon gonna send a car into space but not one fucking go pro this world we live in is like run by shamans not science.

Earth is orbiting Sun at 67k mph and Sun is orbiting Milky Way at 520k mph. So it's hard.

https://i.imgur.com/22in0sS.png

[shovelquest]

Earth is orbiting Sun at 67k mph and Sun is orbiting Milky Way at 520k mph. So it's hard.

https://i.imgur.com/22in0sS.png

There is too many people jumping into orbeez on youtube and not enough diverting their energy into sending payloads of orbeez into space.

I hope AI changes that. Kids should fuck'n smarten up imo.

[Reiwa]

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Haha rounded object with mixed atmosphere go brrr.

[shovelquest]

Ekco the great reset could be upon us... UPON US!!

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[Ekco]

we must consult the astrology charts

[shovelquest]

Predictive programming:

https://i.imgur.com/sVw7Car.png

All the grown up charlie browns commenting online this halloween :o

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[SorenVC]

You guys actually believe this crap? These are all cgi or photoshop images just look at saturn or any other planet and look at the footage from NASA compared to your own telescope. Noone can reproduce that cgi looking sun or saturn you can only get what you see on your own telescope because NASA fakes it. Planets do not exist all those "planets" are actually like the stars they are just lights and probably not a physical object. Even the moon isn't a rock it's a see through plasma or something like that.

And as always if you want to find out the truth about $pace and NASA look at this forum. Just go through some of the comments and posts and you will see that all NASA has is cgi. All pictures of the earth are made in Photoshop. These astronomists spend their entire lives dedicated to finding out about the cosmos, but they are clowns because Space doesn't exist and planets do not exist. Our earth has a flat surface and there is enough evidence for that on globeskepticism. We are not living on a spinning sphere. That's ridiculous.

https://www.reddit.com/r/globeskepticism/

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/UFvanJZ.png

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[atomicpaul]

You guys actually believe this crap? These are all cgi or photoshop images just look at saturn or any other planet and look at the footage from NASA compared to your own telescope. Noone can reproduce that cgi looking sun or saturn you can only get what you see on your own telescope because NASA fakes it. Planets do not exist all those "planets" are actually like the stars they are just lights and probably not a physical object. Even the moon isn't a rock it's a see through plasma or something like that.

And as always if you want to find out the truth about $pace and NASA look at this forum. Just go through some of the comments and posts and you will see that all NASA has is cgi. All pictures of the earth are made in Photoshop. These astronomists spend their entire lives dedicated to finding out about the cosmos, but they are clowns because Space doesn't exist and planets do not exist. Our earth has a flat surface and there is enough evidence for that on globeskepticism. We are not living on a spinning sphere. That's ridiculous.

https://www.reddit.com/r/globeskepticism/:o

[shovelquest]

3i atlas on the news this morning and dracula came on to talk about it.

https://i.imgur.com/EwEobM0.png

https://i.imgur.com/yyvbmVr.png

[shovelquest]

I sure hope Apophis also deviates from its path we say will "just miss earth" too....

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[shovelquest]

I swear to god if in like 20 years we discover there is an intergalactic highway that goes right through our solar system and these are just cars passing an ant hill I am gonna be so fucking pissed off at us for putting a tesla in space and not a solar system camera system.

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[shovelquest]

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[Ekco]

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i remember a segment on cnbc or fox biz sometime in the early to mid 00s with some guest went on a tangent about China and how he was teaching his kids mandarin and the entire panel basically laughed at him at the time

i think about it every once in awhile and have never found a clip of it on youtube when ive looked.


i wanna go
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[Reiwa]

NYT: Tom Brady's dog is a clone (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/04/science/tom-brady-dog-cloning.html)

[shovelquest]

I hope the dog speaks and remembers the last life as a wild side effect.

[shovelquest]

Here Ekco haven't watched but this looks credible.

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[Ekco]

watched hoping for a looney toon but seemed reasonable enough, talked about ayylmaos in the bible for abit

[shovelquest]

anton!

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[shovelquest]

nasa: no we have no pictures of the interstellar object it's too far and small.

Some guy:

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[Ephirith]

nasa: no we have no pictures of the interstellar object it's too far and small.

Some guy:



Over a million earths could fit inside the sun. Those wreathes of flame and wrinkles on the surface of the sun are the size of planets

[shovelquest]

Over a million earths could fit inside the sun. Those wreathes of flame and wrinkles on the surface of the sun are the size of planets

Ok captain autismo thanks for the update.

[shovelquest]

It was just one of the many examples of proof we can take better pictures than this:

https://i.imgur.com/0WoWWFg.png

https://i.imgur.com/eq1ycQr.png

https://i.imgur.com/wymGsvS.png

https://i.imgur.com/haVGrk1.png

https://i.imgur.com/y05dyAy.jpeg

[shovelquest]

Can we see it?

"Best we can do is this (It's just an intergalactic rock why would you CARE??!!) Who CARES about SPACE!!!????! STOP ASKING us about it it is BORING and DUMB!!!"
-People begging for space/science funding

https://i.imgur.com/Jf7NIYo.gif

[shovelquest]

People who vote for funding:

I think the pyhramids are rockets! I bet there's a giant snake in the moon.

People who desperately want space funding":

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[Ekco]

^Despite extensive attempts, I've confirmed that standard ASCII or UTF-8 encodings don't yield legible English.

01110111 01100001 01110011 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110110 01100101 01110010 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111

[shovelquest]

Would have been cool if I accidentally cured cancer with that.

[Ekco]

alas, all you did was confuse the shit out of a large language model for a moment

[atomicpaul]

:cool:It was just one of the many examples of proof we can take better pictures than this:

https://i.imgur.com/0WoWWFg.png

https://i.imgur.com/eq1ycQr.png

https://i.imgur.com/wymGsvS.png

https://i.imgur.com/haVGrk1.png

https://i.imgur.com/y05dyAy.jpegEven on Earth, if you have a good camera, not everything is equally easy to photograph

This is far more exaggerated when dealing with the scale of space

[shovelquest]

:cool:Even on Earth, if you have a good camera, not everything is equally easy to photograph

This is far more exaggerated when dealing with the scale of space

Tesla put a fucking car in space.

I don't understand what red herring you are trying to argue.

Are you aware the astroid 31 atlas is closer to earth than all of those astroids in those pictures.

[atomicpaul]

Yes, what I am trying to say is "close" does not necessarily mean "good picture possible". There are a lot of reasons why a clear image is difficult with a moving object like an asteroid or NEO.

Ever tried to take a photo of the ISS as it passes overhead? Different than a picture from orbit.

[shovelquest]

You know we have rockets, and satellites and space telescopes right?

The point is they take pictures of dumb shit, and are dumb.

And everyone is interested in the shit they say is "fake and parioloa"

Then they send us pictures of literal rocks.

Then they cry about funding and nobody caring about space.

WHY NOT SEND PICTURES OF ROCKS WE WANT TO SEE!

[shovelquest]

People would be more interested in space if when we see a fucking door on mars, they drive the god damn remote control car (thats driven 1000s of miles on mars) TO THE DOOR to show us its not a door.

Twitch drives mars rover > Mars rover

They have gained no scientific knowledge since putting the mars rover onto mars, none.

ZERO.

But they wont look at a face we make movies about?!?!?!

Its so mind bogglingly stupid to me.

[shovelquest]

Car in space = +150 billion market cap.

"trust us, it's just a rock, so here is 1000 pictures of other rocks" = no funding whatsoever and hate of your goverment.

Also fuck elon musk he should be doing this too.

The only thing that makes me believe aliens really do control earth, is that elon musk the donkey brain internet junky hasn't even tried once to prove nasa wrong about them.

[atomicpaul]

Reality is under no obligation to be marketable, and I very much doubt they'd keep sending rovers to Mars if there was nothing to be learned

I don't like the profit motive being near scientific advancement either, but it's the system we operate under. I don't like capitalism but if it must exist I do think private companies and individuals going into space is good for progress altogether. Even if it's a grifter like Elon, he won't live forever and space will be there waiting

[Reiwa]

Yes, what I am trying to say is "close" does not necessarily mean "good picture possible". There are a lot of reasons why a clear image is difficult with a moving object like an asteroid or NEO.

Ever tried to take a photo of the ISS as it passes overhead? Different than a picture from orbit.

If I know my optics and I do not, I think the light from the Sun can obscure an object as it transits into and out from behind the disk.

Asteroids don't have that problem even at a similar distance from Earth.

[shovelquest]

Reality is under no obligation to be marketable, and I very much doubt they'd keep sending rovers to Mars if there was nothing to be learned

There is litreally nothing to be learned from a mars rovers photographs on mars, zero.

The only science was in "getting it there" - for the purpouse of what? So in 35 years when we send the next one after technology has drastically changed we can say we forgot how we landed on the moon?

Its all so fucking tiresome.

"so its sandy over here, and wow, its sandy over there"

Meanwhile: "what about that rock that looks like a big face, id love to see that, would watch it on prime time tV!"

"NO"........ "w-w-w-hat do you mean you're c-c-c-cuting funding??!!"


I don't like the profit motive being near scientific advancement either, but it's the system we operate under. I don't like capitalism but if it must exist I do think private companies and individuals going into space is good for progress altogether. Even if it's a grifter like Elon, he won't live forever and space will be there waitin

Yes, but even him for some reason does not want to make billions filming monoliths on the moons of mars.

BECAUUUSEEEE...

the alien conspiracy is real.

[shovelquest]

Humans go look at giant mountains all the time.

They spend thousands of their vacation dollars working years, just to drive out to a fucking canyon and look at it.

And we think taking photographs of monumental ones on mars would be a "waste of time"

So they send us this:

https://i.imgur.com/lcXohL4.png

It's a fucking CONSPIRACY dude.

[atomicpaul]

There's probably an Icehenge on Enceladus or Triton or something... I'd say read some Kim Stanley Robinson but he's an unapologetic commie <3

[shovelquest]

There's probably an Icehenge on Enceladus or Triton or something... I'd say read some Kim Stanley Robinson but he's an unapologetic commie <3

There's good works from commies, I can look past that. Hell I know for a fact you have to be a sexual predator to be a decent film maker or actor.

[atomicpaul]

Humans go look at giant mountains all the time.

They spend thousands of their vacation dollars working years, just to drive out to a fucking canyon and look at it.

And we think taking photographs of monumental ones on mars would be a "waste of time"

So they send us this:

https://i.imgur.com/lcXohL4.png

It's a fucking CONSPIRACY dude.The average point on the surface of the earth is just boring water, but the features of the planet are certainly more complex

A boring rock can be home to billions of micro organisms, potentially, here on Earth

We aren't certain what we are even looking for, but I'm glad we are (collectively) still looking

[shovelquest]

The average point on the surface of the earth is just boring water, but the features of the planet are certainly more complex

A boring rock can be home to billions of micro organisms, potentially, here on Earth

We aren't certain what we are even looking for, but I'm glad we are (collectively) still looking

1. There are no aliens on mars its been like 10 years, there are no micro organisms.

2. A boring rock is exactly that, unless it's strange looking or Hollywood made a movie about it being a fucking source for all life on earth because everyone has been wondering what it is and what it looks like and would love to see it up close.

3. The only thing we should be looking for, are exciting pictures that make people interested in clicking on them and imagining what else could be beyond them.

Science is for curing cancer.

Space is for, "exploration"

[shovelquest]

The most intellectual argument against going to those locations is, "if we show everyone how boring space is they wont be interested, because it turns out its always just rocks"

Then they go and say, "well we looked all over mars and there are zero micro organisms and it's just a rock"

That... is the SAME THING... only even LESS fun than going to take pictures of strange monoliths.

https://i.imgur.com/ctqbadk.png

[atomicpaul]

please write sean duffy, the former road rules star and now acting head of nasa, that they aren't nearly entertaining enough

i'd sacrifice nasa if it also meant defunding the military, space isn't going anywhere

[shovelquest]

i'd sacrifice nasa if it also meant defunding the military, space isn't going anywhere

We all know a communist revolution would set us back 150 years.

But you can thank the current guy for diverting 3% of military funding to space exploration.

[atomicpaul]

also, i suggest this book: https://www.amazon.com/Entering-Space-Creating-Spacefaring-Civilization/dp/1585420360

it's a little dated but zubrin does generally know what he's talking about, from what i remember

[atomicpaul]

We all know a communist revolution would set us back 150 years.

But you can thank the current guy for diverting 30% of military funding to space exploration.america, maybe, but setting america back 150 years is probably good for the human race at this point. we'll see. hopefully mamdani is a sign of things to come for america. i remain skeptical.

[shovelquest]

also, i suggest this book: https://www.amazon.com/Entering-Space-Creating-Spacefaring-Civilization/dp/1585420360

it's a little dated but zubrin does generally know what he's talking about, from what i remember

I can't wait for AI to convert it into a video! :o

[shovelquest]

america, maybe, but setting america back 150 years is probably good for the human race at this point. we'll see. hopefully mamdani is a sign of things to come for america. i remain skeptical.

Is it the 150 million 3rd worlders you wish were dead? Or just the 50 or so billionaires that made this possible:

Global immunization efforts in the USA are estimated to have saved at least 154 million lives over the past ~50 years.

[atomicpaul]

also, this dude is pretty great a lot of the time, if you weren't already aware of his content: https://www.youtube.com/@isaacarthurSFIA

[shovelquest]

also, this dude is pretty great a lot of the time, if you weren't already aware of his content: https://www.youtube.com/@isaacarthurSFIA

Nice this looks right up my alley ty!

Serious Q: how does it make you feel to see all those video thumbnails made by AI lol

[atomicpaul]

Nice this looks right up my alley ty!

Serious Q: how does it make you feel to see all those video thumbnails made by AI loli'm ambivalent on ai. i do think it's overhyped crap like most of the silicon valley stuff, like NFTs and many cryptocurrencies. but i have also used it a little at work when i can't get what i want by using vLookup, when searching for discrepancies between two given lists.

i don't think it's the end of civilization, but i also don't think it will solve as many problems as the silicon valley types say. i do think it will result in more and more unemployment as time goes on, but that seems to serve the goals of the billionaires, given the authoritarian shift of the last handful of years.

[atomicpaul]

also, my wife recently replaced our realtor with chatgpt and got a better deal... plus we didn't have to pay some agent like 12,000 while closing on our new house. i do not feel guilty if ai wipes out most realtors, they're glorified document managers.

i am not financially literate enough to know if i got screwed, but i don't intend to keep the mortgage for the full 30 year spread anyways.

[shovelquest]

That's fantastic dude!!!! Congrats!

[shovelquest]

i'm ambivalent on ai. i do think it's overhyped crap like most of the silicon valley stuff, like NFTs and many cryptocurrencies. but i have also used it a little at work when i can't get what i want by using vLookup, when searching for discrepancies between two given lists.

i don't think it's the end of civilization, but i also don't think it will solve as many problems as the silicon valley types say. i do think it will result in more and more unemployment as time goes on, but that seems to serve the goals of the billionaires, given the authoritarian shift of the last handful of years.

I think it will have the same kind of impact the internet had.

A lot of wasted potential, a lot of wasted energy, and a lot of annoying scams.

Makes me wonder, if after 30 years we wont replace jobs the same way we didn't replace the post office or the DMV with email and a website.

[atomicpaul]

yeah, i keep thinking of back when photoshop first came out. i bet a lot of graphic designers who were used to using physical stuff might have been worried this would put them out of work. maybe it did, to some extent, or it just overtook whatever other software was around at the time. i do remember paint shop pro in the 90's. but they generally persisted.

plus, there's totally still people out there using paint and brushes. it's fine. a lot of art is already corporate, but the canned nature of it leaves room for actual creativity being distinct. hand-made still has traction in a lot of circles.

[atomicpaul]

That's fantastic dude!!!! Congrats!thanks, i have owned a house before but never a new house. and i get to move even further away from the city, out in the woods. but now i get to find out just how much i struggle with the concept of a HOA... being a collectivism supporter but also a nimby disliker, it might be a real pickle in the years to come.

[shovelquest]

yeah, i keep thinking of back when photoshop first came out. i bet a lot of graphic designers who were used to using physical stuff might have been worried this would put them out of work. maybe it did, to some extent, or it just overtook whatever other software was around at the time. i do remember paint shop pro in the 90's. but they generally persisted.

I wish I had cameras back then, there really were "real human artist" signs on all the comic book artist tables at the comic conventions around then.

I was a big time comic nerd back then.

They hated photoshop. Especially the computer. All artists hated the computer. The computer back then was for spreadsheets and bankers. Not anyone who had any creativeness to them. They talked about it exactly the same way the artists today talk about AI.

They thought it was just going to ruin art as humanity knew it.

Artists back then were like, hippies and punks and painters. Not a single one of them liked computers.

Except for the kids. Who grew up with them, and are doing the exact same pattern again with AI.

As we will until the end of time (which hopefully is now-sh cus i hate this god damn planet).

plus, there's totally still people out there using paint and brushes. it's fine. a lot of art is already corporate, but the canned nature of it leaves room for actual creativity being distinct. hand-made still has traction in a lot of circles.

Yeah, Broadway plays still make shitloads of $$$

Often from the same people that go watch blockbuster movies.

And we still teach theater in schools instead of film making.

Its honestly really sad for me to see artists and creative minded people, behave like puritanical religious freaks that fear technology.

It reminds me of the Jurrasic Park movie.

When the guy was doing the practical effects said "I am extinct" when he saw the computer graphics.

Like, should we have not done computer graphics?

That guy is STILL making movie special effects to day by the way... sometimes practical, sometimes computer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/ln3417/in_jurassic_park_1993_dr_grant_says_looks_like/

[shovelquest]

I think people should remember, if you enter into a field based around technology.

You have to accept that the tools and process you're using now—replaced tools and processes that existed before you started.

And that means: There are going to be tools and processes that replace the way you do it now.

So if you pick a "cutting edge" career, accept that what you're doing will be "old and shitty" in 20 years.

[atomicpaul]

phil tippet kicks ass, mad god kicked ass. real stuff just shifts to become more... boutique.

i remember a doonesbury strip from the 90's where somebody was raging on techno music for being soulless. clearly whoever wrote doonesbury had not heard of Shpongle or Infected Mushroom, actual creative electronica music.

and i could totally play the blue bell homemade ice cream jingle on acoustic guitar or whatever.. it's still soulless. but it is good ice cream.

[shovelquest]

phil tippet kicks ass, mad god kicked ass. real stuff just shifts to become more... boutique.

i remember a doonesbury strip from the 90's where somebody was raging on techno music for being soulless. clearly whoever wrote doonesbury had not heard of Shpongle or Infected Mushroom, actual creative electronica music.

and i could totally play the blue bell homemade ice cream jingle on acoustic guitar or whatever.. it's still soulless. but it is good ice cream.

If there is 1 thing I learned from melinials it's that I am wrong: The phantom menace is a good movie.

The lesson though is: even though it IS objectively a BAD movie. The younger generation will called you OLD and STUPID for not getting it. And they will both outnumber your generation in fanatical worship of something, and also never ever be wrong.

[Ekco]

phantom menace is not a good movie

neither is return, the idea of teddy bears taking on the empire and AT-STs and winning is fucking preposterous.

https://media.tenor.com/kmiQRn-WPDgAAAAM/ewok-dancing.gif

[shovelquest]

phantom menace is not a good movie

neither is return, the idea of teddy bears taking on the empire and AT-STs and winning is fucking preposterous.

https://media.tenor.com/kmiQRn-WPDgAAAAM/ewok-dancing.gif

Millennials were generally born in the years between 1981 and--


Return of the Jedi › Release date
May 25, 1983

Ewoks were just the fist time we tried to market to those retards.

[shovelquest]

Also, nice take grandpa. You don't like phantom menace because it's too smart and about trade policy.

(I'm being sarcastic)

[atomicpaul]

If there is 1 thing I learned from melinials it's that I am wrong: The phantom menace is a good movie.

The lesson though is: even though it IS objectively a BAD movie. The younger generation will called you OLD and STUPID for not getting it. And they will both outnumber your generation in fanatical worship of something, and also never ever be wrong.i saw that awful movie my senior year of high school. i don't really care for most modern star wars stuff. i only like rogue one because it had the nads to kill everyone. i haven't bothered to watch andor, even though all the wokelibs are telling me it's a wonderful metaphor for our current politics. as if we need metaphors to understand current events.

i do like that new show Pluribus, though. i am so tired of remakes and superheroes.

all of it is escapism, obviously, but that sorta political content is like The West Wing, to me. it is meant to keep people in check. if I wanted to watch a show that is violently topical, I will just pretend Mirphy Brown is still on the air

[shovelquest]

I watched those 2 starter eps, excited to see this one. I love Vince Giligan so really have high hopes for this one.

I like the sci fi mystery going on here. Will be cool if they have some fun ideas.

Though.. I do have some trust issues with Vince Gilligan after i saw this clip (does he just make it up as he goes along?):

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[atomicpaul]

they can't all be zingers!

it did make me wonder.... if we received a code from space that we figured out was RNA, do we have the ability to just... construct it? or wae i supposed to suspend some disbelief at that part? i honestly do not know.

[shovelquest]

Andor is good and bad for all the reasons your woke lib friends say it is lol.

It paints an awesome escapism image of the empire fascism, but its politics are so overly low brow and obvious that it's not entertaining for people who don't jack off to anti conservative content.

Politics in science fiction, should be about "mankind" but now it's so obviously about current events, and the same shit they talk about on the news, with almost LITERAL "metaphores" in them that it's not politics. It's propaganda.

Only a few people should notice the message you're embedding in your science fiction, otherwise you're just doing a big marketing campaign worthy of goebbels.

You can argue that your passion for your politics driving you is noble and good all you want but so did he.

[shovelquest]

they can't all be zingers!

it did make me wonder.... if we received a code from space that we figured out was RNA, do we have the ability to just... construct it? or wae i supposed to suspend some disbelief at that part? i honestly do not know.

Yeah I was fantasizing about what sent the signal and it made me question the same things.

Like, did we hear a rogue signal and its a virus spreading through radio waves basically?

Or was it sent because they wanted us to construct it

As for can we, idk, we synthesized moscovium, but at great cost. I bet if we got a signal from space that we could construct, we'd put the manpower together to construct it?

Spoiler:

I loved how fast it went from a rat bite to C-130s flying over the globe lmao

lmao see, that's politics in sci fi. showing how fast our systems that control us would actually wipe us out.

its bi partisan, it's not political, it's about US not THEM.

That's what politics in sci fi is meant to be.

[shovelquest]

"bullshit"

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https://i.imgur.com/P6tXe11.gif

[atomicpaul]

it's pretty cool, vince said part of what motivated him was that he was tired of writing bad guys, like in BB and BCS. though he is very good at writing bad guys, it's an interesting premise and i look forward to seeing what his team does with it. i always think of that Book dude in firefly, telling the main dude "they'll come at you sideways".

[shovelquest]

it's pretty cool, vince said part of what motivated him was that he was tired of writing bad guys, like in BB and BCS. though he is very good at writing bad guys, it's an interesting premise and i look forward to seeing what his team does with it. i always think of that Book dude in firefly, telling the main dude "they'll come at you sideways".

I think its time for me to rewatch firefly.

was jus tlooking at a clip and it made me yern for the days when that was new.

When we were watching that and thinking about what was possible and how great sci fi and movies and TV were becoming.

Man what a time to be alive, I really think around then was the 2nd roaring 20s

[atomicpaul]

https://www.livescience.com/space/space-exploration/secretive-spacex-satellites-operated-by-us-government-are-shooting-disruptive-radio-signals-into-space-astronomer-accidentally-discovers

[Ekco]

https://www.livescience.com/space/space-exploration/secretive-spacex-satellites-operated-by-us-government-are-shooting-disruptive-radio-signals-into-space-astronomer-accidentally-discovers

seems like a cool guy,
Scott Tilley, an amateur astronomer and citizen scientist who has previously tracked China's mysterious space plane and rediscovered a lost NASA satellite, released a new paper describing a series of anomalous satellite signals.


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[shovelquest]

https://www.livescience.com/space/space-exploration/secretive-spacex-satellites-operated-by-us-government-are-shooting-disruptive-radio-signals-into-space-astronomer-accidentally-discovers

lol thats just the thing inside elons torso sending messages home lol

[atomicpaul]

https://i.imgur.com/8dZuQuo.png