View Full Version : Who is this great helper Jesus talks about?
SorenVC
12-15-2025, 10:41 AM
Is he talking about KARMA? Divine judgment?
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OriginalContentGuy
12-15-2025, 10:47 AM
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Jimjam
12-15-2025, 11:06 AM
Mo?
shovelquest
12-15-2025, 01:26 PM
They say its the Holy Spirit but some people say Mohammed.
“I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper to be with you forever—the Spirit of truth.”
Kind of hard to believe that guy is the spirit of truth imo
SorenVC
12-15-2025, 03:54 PM
They say its the Holy Spirit but some people say Mohammed.
“I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper to be with you forever—the Spirit of truth.”
Kind of hard to believe that guy is the spirit of truth imo
I don't like Islam or Mohammed.
shovelquest
12-15-2025, 04:09 PM
I don't like Islam or Mohammed.
I don't think it is, when jesus first mentions the helper, he literally says he will dwell within his followers:
“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth… You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.”
Also jesus says this Spirit will remind the disciples of what Jesus already taught, testify about Jesus, and glorify Jesus.
Muhammad does not afirm Jesus’s teachings, nor does Islam frame Muhammad's role as reminding people of Jesuss word.
John
The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
"the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.”
"When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth… He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you."
So that's where the holy trinity comes from.
God. Jesus & The Holy Ghost (Spirit).
The church, and christians that despite having lost their messiah, still feel the glory of his wonder for thousands of years later (two to be exact before the end of days) inside their hearts.
Jimjam
12-15-2025, 05:09 PM
Muhammad does not afirm Jesus’s teachings, nor does Islam frame Muhammad's role as reminding people of Jesuss word.
I don’t know much about Islam, but I think I remember one of it’s five pillars is essentially kindness/charity, which is the main teaching of Christ.
Reiwa
12-15-2025, 05:28 PM
I don’t know much about Islam, but I think I remember one of it’s five pillars is essentially kindness/charity, which is the main teaching of Christ.
John 14:6 :mad:
shovelquest
12-15-2025, 05:34 PM
I don’t know much about Islam, but I think I remember one of it’s five pillars is essentially kindness/charity, which is the main teaching of Christ.
lol no the main teaching of christ is that he is king, and the only way to heaven is through him.
Jesus expressly spoke that his own identity and teaching were the final reference point for God’s truth.
While Islam teaches that Muhammad is the final prophet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_Prophets), and that his revelation corrects misunderstandings about Jesus.
It directly refutes everything Jesus taught his disciples.
John 14:6 :mad:
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