Finding Groups Question

[Neon Archie]

Hello, new to the server and had a quick question on grouping. Are groups hard to find? I noticed server population is 700-800, and I am wagering half of those are 50+. Not sure if I play a group class (i.e. warrrior) if I a going to have a hard time finding a PU group later on. Any input is appreciated.

[achtung]

You'd be surprised, I've played from 1-25 over the past couple of weeks and have found a healthy population of lower levels in Crushbone, Unrest, Befallen, Upper Guk etc. Outside of east coast evening time it's definitely been a lot thinner, but overall it doesn't have the low level graveyard feeling of live (or EQ2).

[Rhaj]

I wonder why warriors are so hated on this server. When I played on live servers through luclin no one would take a hybrid over a Warrior for MT.

[Goraxx]

Crushbone/Field of Bone/Kurns.

All have a nice pop. Spending alot of time in kurns at the mo.

[Felwithemagi]

Are groups hard to find?

Groups are not hard to find. If you're expecting random invites every time you logon you came to the wrong place. You're making assumptions based on anecdotal evidence.

[Waffen]

I wonder why warriors are so hated on this server. When I played on live servers through luclin no one would take a hybrid over a Warrior for MT.

the reason being; warrior aggro on this server is rather fucked..

[Rhaj]

the reason being; warrior aggro on this server is rather fucked..

Is melee agro different than live servers? I am currently playing a cloth caster but plan on rolling an alt eventually(which I would prefer to be warrior).

[Vermicelli]

SK's and Paladins, because of certain offensive spells, have a much easier time snapping and holding aggro than Warriors, but people who say Warriors are useless are doin it wrong.

Edit: oh but to answer the OP question, yes, groups are plentiful everywhere. The only place I have had difficulty with getting a group as any class is on the Qeynos side of the world, just because people flock to EC and Oasis for lowbie xp like the crowding sheep they are. /who all crushbone, /who all oasis, /who all souldunga and the like are invaluable in finding people to play with!

[bakkily]

low lvl areas i.e 1-20 you should have no problem lvling, beyond that, people lvl in every 20-30, 30 -40 ect zone, but there are some hot spots that most in the lvl 20-30, 30-40 peeps lvl

[xshayla701]

I would think as a tank, ench or cleric it should be fairly easy to find a group, especially 50+, right? If not form one!

[Athosblack]

I found it easier to find groups as a mid lvl Necro than I do now at 51...You'll be fine =)

[acid_reflux]

So. Im still a level 4 bard. I only get about 3-4 hours a day to play. I made the run from Freeport to g'fay. Got a group on the hill one time and the cleric immediately bitched that my half elf bard introduced an exp penalty. For some reason I stopped getting exp. The monk tanking was higher level and had some high end damage shield. So I die, delevel to 4, with like a 10% exp loss. Im stuck killing bats and wasps. A 6pack of those doesn't even yield 1% exp even though the are dark blue. No one is ever in g'fay to res the corpse... game is on maximum suckass atm. This forum is the best part of the server.

[Atmas]

So. Im still a level 4 bard. I only get about 3-4 hours a day to play. I made the run from Freeport to g'fay. Got a group on the hill one time and the cleric immediately bitched that my half elf bard introduced an exp penalty. For some reason I stopped getting exp. The monk tanking was higher level and had some high end damage shield. So I die, delevel to 4, with like a 10% exp loss. Im stuck killing bats and wasps. A 6pack of those doesn't even yield 1% exp even though the are dark blue. No one is ever in g'fay to res the corpse... game is on maximum suckass atm. This forum is the best part of the server.

Sorry to belittle your plight but bards can easily be the fastest leveling class. Also it's a waste of both your time and any cleric's time who rezzes you at low levels. Rez effects will last almost as much time as it takes you to get that xp. I kind of suspect you are exaggerating a few details about xp.

[acid_reflux]

I don't know if the exp gained from 1 six pack of level 1-2 mobs is actually less than 1% but I do not notice the blue bar move until I get 3 swarms dropped. The 10% loss may actually be an understatement. What it amounted to was a loss that will take me several hours to make up. Not a bigdealreally but I sure like venting my frustrations here.

My comment about the cleric that bitched about me being in the group was to suggest that grouping isn't so great at low end even if you do find a group. The intolerant Wow bitches are like a virus.

Don't let my rant lead you to believe that im not enjoying myself though. The deaths were my fault, a true bonehead maneuver. I was swarming the critter and got too close to the wood elfs. They teabgged the open gash they put in my neck for the aoe that they resisted. I was used to detrimental songs not affecting npc's on live.

The no rez just irritates me as the makup mini-grind costs me bigtime when you consider my limited playtime. I wish I could pay an npc to rez me, drag my corpse through zones. 'n sht. So the demand of interdependence really sucks. It should not matter if my desire for a rez is justifiable. The fact that it ia not available points to question of population density across the level range. All druids and shaman I guess.

Text entry on touchscreen phones (motorola atrix) sucks in comparison to blackberry so I apologize for errors.

[Dr4z3r]

I wish I could pay an npc to rez me, drag my corpse through zones. 'n sht. So the demand of interdependence really sucks. It should not matter if my desire for a rez is justifiable. The fact that it ia not available points to question of population density across the level range. All druids and shaman I guess.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this, because you seem to be implying that a reasonable distribution of levels/population would mean seeing level 29+ clerics running through GFay often. Even before Kunark was out, the only reason you'd see high-levels near there is Kedge, or the occasional person saying hi to the newbies.

[acid_reflux]

Ok that didn't make much sense. I guess I ran too many ideas together. I didn't give any thought to the rez thing, other than I wanted one and wasn't going to get it. Its hard to get groups in a zone where there is basically a single camp (orc hill) for low levels. The zone is saturated with like classes (druid).
the exp reward for the level 1 mobs dries up at lvl4. There isn't an abundance of level 3-4 mobs that aren't stationary with adds and part of a" camp."
I've done this a few times (leveling) but back in the day on ayonae ro (2001-2003) when I played, there was always higher levels peeps in zone that were friendly. My experience so far has been conversation with crickets when not reading auction bullshit.
So... its a classicserver populated with a lot of people that aren't as sociable as what I remember. There are exceptions of course but those are few.

[Kope]

Ok that didn't make much sense. I guess I ran too many ideas together. I didn't give any thought to the rez thing, other than I wanted one and wasn't going to get it. Its hard to get groups in a zone where there is basically a single camp (orc hill) for low levels. The zone is saturated with like classes (druid).
the exp reward for the level 1 mobs dries up at lvl4. There isn't an abundance of level 3-4 mobs that aren't stationary with adds and part of a" camp."
I've done this a few times (leveling) but back in the day on ayonae ro (2001-2003) when I played, there was always higher levels peeps in zone that were friendly. My experience so far has been conversation with crickets when not reading auction bullshit.
So... its a classicserver populated with a lot of people that aren't as sociable as what I remember. There are exceptions of course but those are few.

You're complaining about people being antisocial, but look at how you're acting. Would you want to be social with someone who's biaching about everything they're enjoying about the game?

If you don't like how GF is for you then go to Steamfont, or Butcherblock, or go to Qeynos. You have like 8 options for newbie zones (yes some will be much more difficult to get to/exp in) but you have to earn the companionship of people, you can't expect 'omg freendz' right away.

This is a classic server, earn your keep imo by being nice, friendly and being a good group mate and you will receive it back 10 fold.

[acid_reflux]

Ok I give up. Im the looser I guess.

[Supaskillz]

Everyone seems to recall things differently. I remember sk's and pallies always having better aggro than warriors

[Vohl]

A big part of what makes EQ fun is that it can be hard. The complexity and difficulty of the game tends to ramp up as you gain levels. This is especially true for bards, who play best when twisting multiple songs together. If level 4 is this challenging to you, try another class.

Noting that you made the run from Freeport to GFD at level 4, I can see why gaining XP in 3-4 hours of play can be a challenge. Travel time is another thing that made EQ a great game (trapped on a boat with other PCs for 20 minutes or so to socialize). Still, you get no XP when riding a boat.

If you want to continue playing your bard, talk to your fellow PCs about newbie quests that could get you some cloth or tattered armor to wear. Learn which monsters you can handle in a fight. Also, check online for guides on how to play your class effectively.

[Ennoia]

Everyone seems to recall things differently. I remember sk's and pallies always having better aggro than warriors

They did/do. Knights have always held aggro better than Warriors, and can get aggro faster. I remember tons of times when the Warrior tanks would go down on a raid and I had to pick up a mob until one of them could get enough aggro on it.

[Atmas]

Ok I give up. Im the looser I guess.

I havent really played a bard on a legit server but I suspect it may not be super efficient for you to be trying to do swarm kiting at your level.

I also wouldn't say one bad experience in a group should deter you from grouping. I know a lot of people, myself included, like having bards in a group for all the ability enhacements they bring to the table.

Death is a part of EQ that makes us better players. The percentage of newbs in WoW at the high end is unbelievable because their is no real penalty for failure.

Once again I don't think you should worry about rezzes until you get to your first hell lvl if they aren't readily available.

[Striiker]

Finding groups can be hit and miss.. Some times you'll get groups no problem, others it can take a long time to get in a group. My advice..
1) Put up LFG and make sure you are not anon or role
2) do a /who all leg xx yy where xx and yy are the lower and upper level ranges you can group with and send tells to try to start a group.
3) Go to places whee you know that people your level frequent.

You should not sit around waiting for others to invite you to their group. You need to start your own. There are many who prefer to wait to be invited so take th initiative and do the inviting.