Solution to all the drama of raid spawns.

[Crenshinabon]

Open and join Red99. Where the only thing to do is try and take it for yourself! Couldn't pvp CT spawn back from said guild? Too fkin bad. =P


Example for the more casual player:::
Crenshinabon says "Camp check"
Randomguy says "Frenzy/AM"
Crenshinabon proceeds to fight Randomguy over spawn.
Now no waiting or whine was needed.
Wasn't that easy?
No petition needed here.

=P

[Cribanox]

I dont see why raid spawns would be anything else but a giant 15 hour pvp mess, with the raid mob never actually dying.

[Rhaj]

I wonder how many will join Red99.

[mala]

Most of the server will stay on blue due to the fact that they will be absolutely terrible on red.

[Diggles]

So everyone will waste their hoops on downing the enemy guild instead of on trak

[Messianic]

Open and join Red99. Where the only thing to do is try and take it for yourself! Couldn't pvp CT spawn back from said guild? Too fkin bad. =P


Example for the more casual player:::
Crenshinabon says "Camp check"
Randomguy says "Frenzy/AM"
Crenshinabon proceeds to fight Randomguy over spawn.
whichever person loses proceeds to hack, justifies it by swearing that the other guy hacks. A hack war emerges because these two malcontents are so prideful they cannot admit someone else beat them at pvp without hax.

The server becomes infested with hax - the same result as a PvE server, but with a whole lot more e-peen waving.

=P

fixt

[Foxx]

So everyone will waste their hoops on downing the enemy guild instead of on trak

if ur raid guild needs hoops to slay trak, u r so fail ho ho ho... stick to blue jelly pal

red99 is for manly men who fite the good fite

#getatmebro

[Diggles]

if ur raid guild needs hoops to slay trak, u r so fail ho ho ho... stick to blue jelly pal

red99 is for manly men who fite the good fite

#getatmebro

so Salty and his pals & < Fish Bait > can't go on red99?

[Foxx]

u bluebies are under the impression that salty is a white knight hero with a clean whistle

ho ho ho, diggles u r so wrong pal. go back to ur boats pal

[hdawg06]

if ur raid guild needs hoops to slay trak, u r so fail ho ho ho... stick to blue jelly pal

red99 is for manly men who fite the good fite

#getatmebro

I'd bet that it wouldn't have 100 people during peak hours.

[Foxx]

I'd bet that it wouldn't have 100 people during peak hours.

sorry bro, red 99 is serious business. not everyone can hack it.

p99 = staples

http://newsuccess.org/EasyButton.jpg

[Mcbard]

list pal you dont know what youre doing bro big things are in pal listen bluebie pal you dont know bro youd be griefed off the server pal so bad at red pal bro

big things pal

[Crenshinabon]

list pal you dont know what youre doing bro big things are in pal listen bluebie pal you dont know bro youd be griefed off the server pal so bad at red pal bro

big things pal

This guy sounds mad.
Also population gonna be bangin. Beta INC!

[Salty]

you all jelly

[Rali]

Most of the server will stay on blue due to the fact that they are fed up of seeing grown men act like children.

Fixed that for you ;)

[Salty]

Fixed that for you ;)

blues are bigger children than red

already confirmed

[choklo]

The main argument favoring pvp is self policing. This, in theory, could work with the high end raid scene and other high value bosses, possibly freeing up the devs to actually get stuff done.
In reality, most pvp servers are infested with pathologic grievers that like nothing more than ganking newbs repeatedly until they rage quit. They essentially get huge erections by inflicting repeated grief on other players then bragging about it on the forums.
This has been my experience with pvp servers.

[Harrison]

Messianic won this thread.

If we can't control shitbag populations properly on P99, R99 will be a fucking joke like vztz was.

[SwordNboard]

Most of the server will stay on blue due to the fact that they will be absolutely terrible on red.

..and that they're already well established.

[Crenshinabon]

Who doesn't want to try out the new server though. And I am sure not everyone will suck. Also considering it is probably the last and best reincarnation of good EQ pvp. Sounds good to me!

[bakkily]

i feel at the beginning many will enter r99, one of the main reasons i want to is because for 4 or so months itll just be classic, kunarks alright, but not many will stay, i dont mind you pvp guys, but most of you are overly annoying

[akahdrin]

Most of the server will stay on blue due to the fact that they will be absolutely terrible on red.

Yea that's why blue servers won test of tactics. Bunch of bads beating on the best right?

Also the standard best of the bests were mostly won by blue servers as well.

I thought reds were the only ones who could pvp?

In all reality, we just don't care enough to pvp on a daily basis. I had my fair share in Ultima, DAoC, and Shadowbane.

I believe the fact that most of the bad players who think they are good will go to the red server where they can play with other bads will be the case ;)

Enjoy your time over there though.

[bakkily]

interesting you said that aka, i am a big pvp fan, for instance i played conan, though the playerbase back in 08 was horrible, i was in a guild that ive guilded with since everquest, and when ever a new mmo came out and those in the guild wanted to play that mmo, we played it as a guild, but i usally group with everyone, but it came to a point when i couldnt stand having fun because of how many people were rude, and this was on a pvp server, yea i can take the spewing shit talk from these guys, but it just makes the community not so great or so fun to be apart of, i dont get this from all those r99 guys, but most are like this

[Messianic]

Messianic won this thread.

If we can't control shitbag populations properly on P99, R99 will be a fucking joke like vztz was.

But hey - I'm entirely willing and eager to be proven wrong. It's just that in my experience across MMOs/FPS/RTS/whatever, PvP brings out far more pride than PvE....as crazy as that might sound to the vztz crowd.

PvP has more meaning to your pride than PvE because you're better than a person - not a programmed mechanic.

[Tamiah2011]

The main argument favoring pvp is self policing. This, in theory, could work with the high end raid scene and other high value bosses, possibly freeing up the devs to actually get stuff done.
In reality, most pvp servers are infested with pathologic grievers that like nothing more than ganking newbs repeatedly until they rage quit. They essentially get huge erections by inflicting repeated grief on other players then bragging about it on the forums.
This has been my experience with pvp servers.

Cant handl;e the heat get the hell out of the kitchen, pvp seperates the men from the boys. Stay a carebear if you cant handle griefing it part of skilled red servers not blue carebear servers.

[Tamiah2011]

But hey - I'm entirely willing and eager to be proven wrong. It's just that in my experience across MMOs/FPS/RTS/whatever, PvP brings out far more pride than PvE....as crazy as that might sound to the vztz crowd.

PvP has more meaning to your pride than PvE because you're better than a person - not a programmed mechanic.

Messianic, you to much of a puss to play pvp server.Why you talking?

[cobykoby]

Cant handl;e the heat get the hell out of the kitchen, pvp seperates the men from the boys. Stay a carebear if you cant handle griefing it part of skilled red servers not blue carebear servers.

Why is it half of pvpers cry all the time over 'carebears' when those same 'carebears' don't seem to give a shit what you get up to/what you enjoy

I don't mind some pvp myself, but you're trying to be an internet tough guy

[Phallax]

Who doesn't want to try out the new server though. And I am sure not everyone will suck. Also considering it is probably the last and best reincarnation of good EQ pvp. Sounds good to me!

no such thing

[Robben]

EQ wasn't designed around PvP in the first place. I have nothing against starting the red99 server, but I won't be playing there.

[choklo]

EQ wasn't designed around PvP in the first place. I have nothing against starting the red99 server, but I won't be playing there.

EQ was not designed around pvp and the classes are grossly imbalanced for it. However, if you enjoy nonstop, grade school trash talk and ganking, go for it.

[Crenshinabon]

How can you say EQ was not designed for pvp? The camp system / sandbox world is the best pvp setting I have ever played. And I have played just about every pvp game there is.

On blue server, there are lines, poopsocking, people whine, I actually had the worst experience in EQ on the new blue Fippy Darkpaw server in the hugely crowded solB. If there was pvp on that server it would have been so much better. Instead SolB was a giant bitchfest of people complaining "i was here first" "I have been here for the past 2 days, my camp""Group A trained me and stole my spawn, reporting". The camp system damn near seems like it was designed with pvp in mind.

Just sayin you are missing out. Not to mention it sounds like a couple can't handle it. There really is only griefing if you are not good enough to avoid it.

[Phallax]

How can you say EQ was not designed for pvp? The camp system / sandbox world is the best pvp setting I have ever played. And I have played just about every pvp game there is.

On blue server, there are lines, poopsocking, people whine, I actually had the worst experience in EQ on the new blue Fippy Darkpaw server in the hugely crowded solB. If there was pvp on that server it would have been so much better. Instead SolB was a giant bitchfest of people complaining "i was here first" "I have been here for the past 2 days, my camp""Group A trained me and stole my spawn, reporting". The camp system damn near seems like it was designed with pvp in mind.

Just sayin you are missing out. Not to mention it sounds like a couple can't handle it. There really is only griefing if you are not good enough to avoid it.

You obv didnt play UO. By far the best PvP game to date. At least T2A era.

[cobykoby]

How can you say EQ was not designed for pvp? The camp system / sandbox world is the best pvp setting I have ever played. And I have played just about every pvp game there is.

Just sayin you are missing out. Not to mention it sounds like a couple can't handle it. There really is only griefing if you are not good enough to avoid it.


EQ is not designed for pvp in the sense none of the classes are balanced for fair pvp action to go on, You're usually pretty fucked if you're a melee class.

I think a lot of pvpers are under this misconception that all blue server players are just afraid/have never experienced pvp before, Chances are 90% of them have tried it before and they don't like it and thats ok.
People can choose not to like things, just don't get your panties in a twist that they don't like it.

Maybe they can handle it, maybe they would rather you handle it.

[Foxx]

instance raids are for pve.. open world content is for pvp

wipe the box clean, turn on pvp.. gg

[stormlord]

so your argument is:

pvp

-or-

staples

I'll take the staples.

[Pico]

i have a gentle soul, but at times i feel pvp may be an interesting experience. do u allow gays?

[Crenshinabon]

As long as you own a pug as cute as your avatar. Anyone welcome.