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Naerron
09-14-2011, 09:01 PM
So the fan on my MB went out while i was sleeping and it got fried, i am currently trying to figure out replacing it. However my 52 mage is dead in Lake lll omen soooo i am not sure what to do because the corpse will decay before the replacement MB gets here in the mail....So i guess what i am asking is for anyone who reads this to please contact Durison or any TMO officer to PM me on the boards or to check their PMs. Also if anyone sees maxpower or maxpowers running around PLEASE ask him to IM me. THanks in advance for anyone who helps.

SwordNboard
09-14-2011, 10:04 PM
Motherboards don't have fans, so it may have been your processor's heat sink/fan assembly that went out. Your processor then probably proceeded to get very hot and melt the seating. However, most computers have an auto shut off feature at 113C.

Given all of that, I would look around in your PC more to make sure what actually failed. Look for obvious things like charred areas and broken solder points. Don't be afraid to sniff components too; There's nothing like the smell of melted circuit board coating. Start with your power supply.

Edit: McBard is right, habitually typed 113F.

Mcbard
09-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Pretty sure you mean 113C (not sure if that's really true either think it would differ by cpu). 113F is pretty much normal operating temp for most CPUs.

Gwence
09-14-2011, 11:37 PM
This story seems weird, you should make sure that is your issue. I can't imagine how a system board would get fried by a fan going out. You're going to get a new mobo and probably realize your cpu is what was fried but even that dying because of a heatsink fan is a long shot if it's idle the temps are pretty low (or should be).

Question, do you use any kind of power protection? aka a good quality surge protector? If you can't even post it's probably you're PSU.


Also @SwordNBoard Asus sabretooth boards have a spot to mount a 50mm fan right on the board.

Naerron
09-15-2011, 12:28 AM
So this is what i can describe from my limited knowledge and terminology. Not only is the fan on the sink of my processor out so is the fan on my video card. So i open it and i use a normal box fan to blow into it and it work just fine. Anyway, i normally turn the comp and the fan off at night but i forgot to turn the comp off that night like i do sometimes and it never matters if EQ is not running. Soo anyway, i wake up and on the moniter it reads "out of range" but its not a msg being sent from the CPU. I restart, the screen comes up and everything is screwy and then it goes to this red geometic pattern then back to the "out of range" msg. So i assume it's the video card, i go out get a new video card, get it mounted, turn on the comp and the monitor gives me a msg that saying that nothing is connected to it. From talking to friends they said that sounded like a mother board problem. I found nothing charred or any burning smell. any ideas?

SwordNboard
09-15-2011, 02:03 AM
Definitely sounds like a video card issue. With it saying no signal on the second card, I'm nearly stumped. Unless you have an onboard video card that needs to be disabled, or your old card is still mounted as well. Or.. the 'new' one is defective. Double check your VGA cable connections?

Or perhaps, it is your motherboard/video card slot (AGP/PCIe) itself.

Gwence
09-15-2011, 03:12 AM
Check the specs of the video card for recommended wattage from your psu, if the card isnt being recognized it might not be getting enough power, also make sure you have the supplemental connectors plugged in on the pcb if the card requires them which most all of them today do.

and yea make sure your card matches the on board slot, although I can't imagine how you plugged it in if it was a different form factor.


The only time to buy a new motherboard is if you're making a whole new build, 99.99999999999% of the time the problem is elsewhere.

Next time you post put the type of gpu you're running, and your psu size, also is the cpu heatsink stock or aftermarket? Just list all your specs lol plz.

mimixownzall
09-15-2011, 06:29 AM
Motherboards don't have fans

Really? Wanna make a bet?

Alkorin
09-15-2011, 07:18 AM
If both fans aren't working, it could be a voltage issue. If you've inserted a new video card, and any fan continues to be unresponsive, check your power supply. Also (this needs to be said), since you've likely been unplugging things to troubleshoot at this point, ensure that everything is plugged back in where it needs to be. Sounds simple, but it happens.

Mcbard
09-15-2011, 09:11 AM
Don't run your computer with a box fan either... fans are meant to draw hot air away from your important parts (at a very high rpm mind you) not blow air at it. Sounds like you were just asking for something bad to happen imo.

Naerron
09-15-2011, 11:36 AM
Ok well here are some more facts, im not exactly sure what all you guys are asking but here goes...

1. Its an AGP card

2. Yes i have power running to it

3. Yes, the fan on the card turns on.

3. My VGA cable and monitor are fine, i can hook them up to my mac book and they work

5. I am 100% the card was mounted properly and all the way locked in

6. No burns or weird smells on any of the parts.

7. My computer has the recommended requirements for the card

My power supply seems ok to me, the comp still turns on just no video =(
Here is the model number for my power supply. MJPC-300A2

The card is an ATi Radeon HD 4650 AGP.

The old card is an ATi X1300 PRO.

If someone can give me a list of other information that will help lemme know.

Naerron
09-15-2011, 11:37 AM
Oh and yes, everything was plugged back in after troubleshooting.

Gwence
09-15-2011, 02:53 PM
Ok well here are some more facts, im not exactly sure what all you guys are asking but here goes...

1. Its an AGP card

2. Yes i have power running to it

3. Yes, the fan on the card turns on.

3. My VGA cable and monitor are fine, i can hook them up to my mac book and they work

5. I am 100% the card was mounted properly and all the way locked in

6. No burns or weird smells on any of the parts.

7. My computer has the recommended requirements for the card

My power supply seems ok to me, the comp still turns on just no video =(
Here is the model number for my power supply. MJPC-300A2The card is an ATi Radeon HD 4650 AGP.

The old card is an ATi X1300 PRO.

If someone can give me a list of other information that will help lemme know.

If you are hearing a post beep and hearing your HDD power on as well as fans etc but not getting any video this typically means your video card isn't receiving enough power.

Also HD 4650's require at least 400W power supply, that model number you posted leads me to believe yours is a 300W power supply.

Sounds like your computer is a bit older meaning your cpu socket is probably going to be a bit older as well, you may be giving yourself a major headache by having to find the right socket motherboard and then installing everything.

I would go pick up a 450-500W power supply (they're not very expensive) and see if that fixes your problem, make sure it has the proper connectors you need. And will fit in your case.

I'd reccomend this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074) psu because the manufacturer is the best imo for psu's. It will be a bit more expensive though because of the quality.

Here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023) is a cheaper one that will be fine as well.

Bohab
09-15-2011, 03:43 PM
Yeah, sounds like you need more power for your new card.

also i deal with a bunch of older computers at my cheapskate work and I run into "the computer is powered on but nothing is showing up on the monitor" issue often with a certain model we have. Each time this happens I need to replace the cmos battery on the motherboard... Most likely not your resolution but something to perhaps keep in mind.

Naerron
09-15-2011, 05:34 PM
hahahahah what an easy fix, lol thanks guys i feel like an even bigger nub now

Naerron
09-15-2011, 11:18 PM
SO the new powe supply didn't seem to do the trick. If i am not hearing the system beep on start up like normal, that's bad right? Everything turns on, nothing smells or looks burnt....I'll take some pics and see what i can show u all.

Apex
09-16-2011, 12:37 AM
Take out all of your ram you should get some beeps and then you know the board may not be the problem

Gwence
09-16-2011, 12:29 PM
I kind of need the entire pc's specs at this point more information the better. Make sure you have all the power connectors correctly installed.