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Harrison
09-24-2011, 07:43 AM
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=vegetarian_test
Man, fuck vegetarians and vegans. Fuck them in their stupid asses.
Not eating a piece of meat on your plate that you didn't order makes you a full-time asshole because you're effectively saying "yeah, I know it's too late to do anything about it, but I'm still going to let this animal's life die in vain." Not eating a steak that someone brought to you by accident won't bring the animal back to life, won't reduce the demand for meat and it won't make any difference to the meat industry's bottom line.
I was in a restaurant the other day when some solid-gold bitch sent her dish back because her seafood pasta had seafood in it. First of all, if you order a meat dish and then ask them to hold the meat, you're a jackass. Food is seasoned based on all of the ingredients, including the flavors the meat adds to the dish. So seafood pasta without the seafood tastes like bullshit. You're just eating a steamy coil of soggy pasta. BARF! Of course, when the dish came out with seafood, she made a big song and dance about how she's a vegetarian, making sure everyone within an earshot knew she was better than them. Then she made them take it back and make her another dish. Good call, turbo-bitch! Way to stand up for what you believe in. The world is better off because you sent back that dish. Fewer animals are now dead because you refused to eat those shrimp, right?
In fact, it doesn't violate any moral code to eat meat that other people ordered either, and it makes you look like a prick if you let other people's meat go to waste. If your friends order nachos and there's meat on it, not eating it makes you a pious dipshit. Do you think it makes any difference whether or not you put a piece of meat in your mouth that someone else ordered and killed anyway? As long as you didn't order it and had no intention to, eating meat isn't contradictory to your moral stance.
Vegetarians are, in general, negative people. They always assume the worst in humanity and animals alike. Who's to say that animals wouldn't gladly sacrifice themselves for our meals if they knew how happy it made us? After all, most vegetarians argue against speciesism, or the belief that we are different than animals. If that's the case, then shouldn't it stand that a certain percentage of animals would gladly sacrifice themselves for the greater good, like humans who volunteer for military service do? I know it's a little bit different because we don't eat our service men and women, but I've met a lot of troops and I know that most of them would not object to being eaten.
I eat animals because I love animals. I love everything about them. The way they taste, the way they smell when they're grilled. Even the way they look at me on my plate, all sizzly and saucy-eyed. Every time I see bacon, I feel like the pig fairy has visited me with a gift. A gift that is sliced from her back, smoked and cured with honey. It's like Mardi Gras in my mouth, with less puke.
But there's a good reason to eat animals if you love them: to bring them off the endangered species list. Thanks to our modern agrarian society, the once-endangered buffalo has made a comeback from a population dwindling in the thousands to no longer being on the list. If it weren't for people eating them, their population would have never made a comeback. That may seem counter-intuitive, but when there's a demand for a type of meat like buffalo, that demand is filled by enterprising young farmers who breed buffalo just for that reason. Since buffalo is some of the leanest meat you can buy, it's in high demand, and they're raised in larger quantities to put into my mouth.
Now I know that the anti-speciesist crowd argues that it's better for animals to not exist if their existence is filled with suffering. But rarely do these people ever stop to ask the question: why?
Why is all suffering bad?
I suffer every day. Sometimes out of boredom. After all, every single person who rots in a cubicle for 10 hours a day is suffering. The only difference between that type of suffering and an animal's, is that humans volunteer to suffer through things like work, school and marriage. That's because we know that with the exception of marriage, suffering sometimes has rewards. In fact, even animals choose to suffer sometimes: they give birth. If all you dipshits who have such a problem with suffering really believed what you said, you'd stop having children, find the nearest cop and ask him to shoot you in the face. That's the only sure way to end suffering.
But I don't think all suffering is bad, so long as you learn from it. If I were unfortunate enough to be a parent and saw my child about to put his hand on a hot stove, I'd sure as shit let him. Burning yourself on a stove is a great way to learn to not touch a hot stove ever again. Any parent who doesn't let his or her child burn him or herself should have their children taken away for abuse. Not letting your kids suffer is one of the most serious forms of neglect today.
The type of suffering animals endure is also different from the type humans endure because animals are dumb. They keep no record of their suffering. There's no collective memory of their agony, and why should there be? Does it matter? Does an animals suffering make any difference in this world? I'm not suggesting we pointlessly make animals suffer, but if they do in our pursuit for some greater good, like chili, will anything change by going out of our way to not make animals suffer? If you buy free-range eggs, do you really ever know for sure that animal who bore your eggs didn't suffer? Or are you just buying into a story to make yourself feel better? And how can you be sure that animal didn't suffer some form of mental anguish that you can't determine by visual inspection? If animals are the same as humans, then shouldn't it stand that just as many animals suffer from some form of autism, retardation or psychological disorder as humans do?
Buying cage-free or free-range eggs means you feel guilty about something, and you're too lazy to actually do something about it, like raising your own chickens to make sure they're properly cared for both physically and psychologically. Free-range eggs simply make you feel less guilty without actually having to exert any effort or be uncomfortable in any way. And that makes you morally dubious at best, and definitely not better than anyone who doesn't buy into your narrative or world view.
And while you're at it, if you don't eat someone's leftovers because it has meat in it, that makes you a bad person. When you choose to make a showy stand by not eating meat, even when your consumption makes absolutely no difference in the number animals killed, what you are saying is that your desire to be perceived as morally superior to your peers outweighs your actual goal of being morally superior.
Get over yourselves. Stop defining yourselves by your diet. You aren't what you don't eat.
garzahd`
09-24-2011, 07:48 AM
tldr;
vegetarians are alot healthy+skinnier than you, maybe you could learn some things from them fatboy.
Harrison
09-24-2011, 07:51 AM
Wow, a fat joke. That's so fresh and witty. I hope you didn't lose too much sleep getting ready to bust out that gem.
tl;dr
You're a retard and a pussy hiding behind anonymity.
Mardur
09-24-2011, 08:02 AM
A large percentage of my friends are vegetarians. The inconvenience to others alone isn't worth the moral high ground imo.
Ever try to date a girl who's a vegetarian & doesn't drink? There goes like 99% of your options.
Harrison
09-24-2011, 08:03 AM
Yes, yes I have. Twice actually, lol
I'm currently with an ex-vegan. Thank God she isn't anymore.
Theldios
09-24-2011, 08:10 AM
one of my best friends is a vegeitarian and it has never bothered me.
When I eat at his place he always makes some fantastic looking and tasting meal.
visage
09-24-2011, 08:16 AM
Wow, a fat joke. That's so fresh and witty. I hope you didn't lose too much sleep getting ready to bust out that gem.
tl;dr
You're a retard and a pussy hiding behind anonymity.
Why do fat people get so mad stop hiding from yourself your fat. It's not a joke retard your health is at risk and your hurting peoples eyes.
Ashimar
09-24-2011, 09:10 AM
Heart attacks.
God's way of telling you to stop eating his friendly creatures.
Harrison
09-24-2011, 09:12 AM
Visage, you're bad at EQ.(lol pycoba) You're balding at 23. You admit to hiding cameras while dateraping underaged girls. You go to the mall to stalk to high school girls. You wear makeup. You have had two kids already and failed a marriage. You're barely even literate to the degree that my 10 year-old nieces and nephews are past you in literacy. You're so pathetically attention starved that you have to spam these forums with your disgustingly hideous "he/she" pictures.
Is there a single thing on this planet that you are good at?
Tiggles
09-24-2011, 09:26 AM
Visage, you're bad at EQ.(lol pycoba) You're balding at 23. You admit to hiding cameras while dateraping underaged girls. You go to the mall to stalk to high school girls. You wear makeup. You have had two kids already and failed a marriage. You're barely even literate to the degree that my 10 year-old nieces and nephews are past you in literacy. You're so pathetically attention starved that you have to spam these forums with your disgustingly hideous "he/she" pictures.
Is there a single thing on this planet that you are good at?
He's apparently good at making you rage on internet forums.
Glitch
09-24-2011, 10:12 AM
^BOOM
yaaaflow
09-24-2011, 11:36 AM
Visage, you're bad at EQ.(lol pycoba) You're balding at 23. You admit to hiding cameras while dateraping underaged girls. You go to the mall to stalk to high school girls. You wear makeup. You have had two kids already and failed a marriage. You're barely even literate to the degree that my 10 year-old nieces and nephews are past you in literacy. You're so pathetically attention starved that you have to spam these forums with your disgustingly hideous "he/she" pictures.
Is there a single thing on this planet that you are good at?
obsessed
WOW I totally forgot about this site!
About vegetarians, I don't think they are stupid. It's just healthier to be eating salads, pasta, rice, beans, lentils rather then steaks which are full of cholesterol and carcinogenics. And you can still get enough protein from that stuff. Even the chicken like the one that fell into the salad looks flame broiled, you think all that black burnt stuff you get off a BBQ is good for you? carcinogenics. Vegetables are naturally filled with vitamins antioxidants. Think I might be a vegetarian if I had more will power, not a vegan that's just crazy.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 12:40 PM
I have been vegetarian for a long time and became vegan in the past few months. I have seen my blood pressure drop, i have lost a great deal of weight, and i have experienced a general increase in overall energy / vitality. I don't look at it as doing anything significant however. I just have no need to rely on animals for my well being. Everyone's reason for becoming a vegetarian or vegan is different. For some the issue is a love for animals, for some its purely for health benefits, and for others its clearly a religious or spiritual decision. For me its all three. Animals are beautiful and interesting creatures to me, they have their purpose and for humans it is to observe them in the wild, not to devour them on a dinner plate. As far as health the only things that contain cholesterol is animal products! So obviously removing these would be essential to helping with your heart and other things. Congrats on Bill Clinton for coming out with the fact that being vegan saved his life! Finally all true spirituality points towards living an existence in which we do not cause harm to other living beings. I don't really have a religion exactly, but I do follow the teachings of Yesus Christos(Jesus) and Lord Krishna. Who I believe are the same thing. Careful examination of the bible, and the Bhagavad-gita will bring you too the conclusion that eating meat is a decadent practice. If we were supposed to consume meat like certian animals, we would have teeth capable of biting into a recently killed animal, and eating its flesh raw. Listen to that again, EATING ITS FLESH!!!!! I've also read many of the Essene texts regarding the nature of Kristos. The most explicit and direct in its condemnation comes in this verse.
"I am come to end the sacrifices and feasts of blood; and if ye cease not offering and eating of flesh and blood, the wrath of God shall not cease from you; even as it came to your fathers in the wilderness, who lusted for flesh, and did sat to their content, and were filled with rottenness, and the plague consumed them."
http://i55.tinypic.com/bf2cmh.jpg
Do you approve of this? If so then I feel bad you've grown so accustomed to death that this doesn't repulse you.
"All men have a mind which cannot bear to see the suffering of others. The superior man, having seen the animals alive , cannot bear to see them die. Having heard their dying cryies, they cannot bear to eat their flesh." Confucius
P.S - Eating a vegan diet is much cheaper then a non vegan one! :)
garzahd`
09-24-2011, 12:49 PM
Balding at 23 isn't something visage can control. It's all genetics.. Harrison, you however can have a grasp on your obesity if you would just set your mind straight and stop eating so much junkfood.
ScaryBadAssholes
09-24-2011, 03:04 PM
I wouldn't mind vegetarians....but liek the article says, they're way too high and mighty.
I've had SEVERAL vegetarians come into the store and ask me to:
change my gloves (ok - will do)
wash my hands (sure, np)
However.....
wash the knife
wash the countertop
wash the cutting board
get a fresh batch of all 12 veggies that haven't been touched yet
get fresh containers of ALL the condiments -- because I've touched all the current ones with meat-covered gloves
Don't go to a fucking ****DELI**** to order a vegetarian sandwich, and expect all employees in the ****DELI**** to drop everything they're doing and cater to your every desire.
Go make yourself a salad and shut the fuck up.
Also...vegetarians like stand around in the store and tell customers, while they're ordering, how bad meat is for you -- as if anyone actually fucking cares. One crazy vegan-bitch was in line for about 15 minutes doing this the whole time, when finally a guy turned around and said "hey...shut up lady. you're in a ****DELI**** nobody wants to hear your shit"
Mardur
09-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Whoa, hold on here. This shit may fly around your dumbass friends but not here.
they have their purpose and for humans it is to observe them in the wild, not to devour them on a dinner plate.
Scientifically incorrect on about a dozen levels.
As far as health the only things that contain cholesterol is animal products!
Besides this being completely wrong, the reason that mammals contain so much cholesterol is because it's necessary. Guess what? You're a mammal.
A bunch of religious bullshit written by ancient nobodies
Yeah...
http://i55.tinypic.com/bf2cmh.jpg
Do you approve of this? If so then I feel bad you've grown so accustomed to death that this doesn't repulse you.
I feel bad you've been so sensitized by your comfortable 21st century life. Thank your god(s) you weren't born 2 or 3 thousand years ago, you wouldn't have lasted to procreate.
P.S - Eating a vegan diet is much cheaper then a non vegan one!
Apparently mommy buys your groceries too?
Mardur
09-24-2011, 04:17 PM
And again, I have nothing against vegetarians. Most of my friends are vegetarians. It's really just complete idiots like that hipster guy that makes me immediately prejudge any of them.
If you like animals and the thought of eating them grosses you out, I'm totally cool with that, even though you're a pussy. But when you start spouting factually incorrect bullshit to justify your shitty decision, then you descend to vegetarian douchebagism.
Feces
09-24-2011, 04:28 PM
If we were supposed to consume meat like certian animals, we would have teeth capable of biting into a recently killed animal, and eating its flesh raw. Listen to that again, EATING ITS FLESH!!!!!
Humans have teeth and digestive systems to eat both animals and plant material. Are you a dumb faggot or what?
Harrison
09-24-2011, 05:12 PM
Man, I was hoping a retarded vegetarian like "notahipster" would respond with that level of stupidity and there was no disappointment.
Ennoia
09-24-2011, 05:26 PM
tldr;
vegetarians are alot healthy+skinnier than you, maybe you could learn some things from them fatboy.
Not true at all. I tried the vegetarian thing for half a year, was really sick from it. Every vegetarian/vegan I know is in terrible health except for like 3 of them who actually take vitamins like they're supposed to. Humans aren't meant to eat strictly vegetables. If we were we wouldn't have canines.
Francois
09-24-2011, 05:45 PM
You know what's worse than high and mighty vegetarians looking down on people from their towers? Douchebags who lump entire groups of people together and attack them over the internet.
I've been a vegetarian for over 5 years now, and since then have slaughtered a cow. Not every vegetarian is a big PETA loving pussy.
Harrison
09-24-2011, 05:51 PM
This was very obviously not directed at you, then.
visage
09-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Visage, you're bad at EQ.(lol pycoba) You're balding at 23. You admit to hiding cameras while dateraping underaged girls. You go to the mall to stalk to high school girls. You wear makeup. You have had two kids already and failed a marriage. You're barely even literate to the degree that my 10 year-old nieces and nephews are past you in literacy. You're so pathetically attention starved that you have to spam these forums with your disgustingly hideous "he/she" pictures.
Is there a single thing on this planet that you are good at?
Lol i found is insult the funniest. YOU ARE BAD AT EQ~~!!! LMAO I'm hurt.
Look up the definition of stalking. Correct I prefer to take advantage... Makeup I do wear. Well I would agree anything with having to do with writing or gramm on the net I fall under. However, I read well. Quite the opposite really on attention starving. Your one to talk on spamming forums let alone server wide chat Finawins. Comming from a guy who post photos of himself in a lawn chair with laptop in hand... LOL disgusting he she pictures. Where is that photo with the whale your with? LOL as far as being good at something. I Play guitar pretty well. I am really gifted socially. I also am good at getting laid. More so I'm good at reading people , I am a people person believe it or not =). Thanks for the concern as always. NOw how about them weight watchers friend????
Harrison
09-24-2011, 05:58 PM
Can anyone read that gibberish or is he drooling on the keyboard again?
I hope to God those kids aren't yours and you didn't pass on your genetic filth.
visage
09-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Can anyone read that gibberish or is he drooling on the keyboard again?
I hope to God those kids aren't yours and you didn't pass on your genetic filth.
Speaking of kids... How's your brother man =)
Harrison
09-24-2011, 06:00 PM
Not that you have a leg to stand on, morally, professionally, or pretty much in anything that you "pride" yourself in...that's just another indicator of how pathetic you are right there kid.
visage
09-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Not that you have a leg to stand on, morally, professionally, or pretty much in anything that you "pride" yourself in...that's just another indicator of how pathetic you are right there kid.
Right... Harrison on yet another Saturday... In house ragin on P99 forums. Dude.. Get off your fat ass and get out... Get laid... Loose some of your baby fat. Get a make over. Something. You call me pathetic , but as you can see I get off my ass and go out and have fun. You? the same old song and dance , Fat guy ragin on the net , classic role , but so Cliche
Harrison
09-24-2011, 06:04 PM
You're inside on a Saturday saying that someone else inside on a Saturday is pathetic. (at 6pm no less)
You're a fucking genius.
visage
09-24-2011, 06:05 PM
I have to go now Harrison. I have to go out and enjoy my life outside the internet. I rec you do the same. It's ok to get up of the lawnchair. Put the food down and close the laptop. I promise one day your gonna meet some special girl that might weigh under 170 pounds. When that day comes I hope you start talking positive like myself and not so angry. Fat angry guy's with little wangs are just helpless. They can't control themselves. You sir could be destined for average! Come on raise the bar~ Prove to the world your not just a fat man on the internet , god bless Harrison. Tell your brother I said Hi
visage
09-24-2011, 06:06 PM
You're inside on a Saturday saying that someone else inside on a Saturday is pathetic. (at 6pm no less)
You're a fucking genius.
I work graveyard. 3 pm here. About to take a shower coffee is brewing and im out for the night. I will miss you my fat internet fan boy~ Bye love.
Falisaty
09-24-2011, 06:23 PM
LOL it's true I am balding it sucks ass. I am enjoying the last stages of my hair
Time to go hairless then shave whats left of the head hair and polish it up nice and shiny... women love rubbing bald heads.
Humerox
09-24-2011, 07:03 PM
Speaking of kids... How's your brother man =)
That's crossing a line you shouldn't. In very bad taste, friend.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 07:04 PM
you know what you guys are right.
i was pretty damn foolish to think that not eating animals was a good idea.
in the spirit of assimilating to the general notion of what is considered masculine behavior I retract my statements expressing concerning for living creatures, the well being of my brothers and sisters, and respect for the great gurus of the past. I am ready to become a man!
Will someone pass me a beer?
Who do I root for in football?
How can I become a more lustful individual driven by what looks right and feels good?
How do I aim a gun?
Am I going to need to buy a truck or an SUV.
God being a man is going to be rough!
Humerox
09-24-2011, 07:09 PM
Why be around so long you can dribble applesauce on your bib and have people wipe your ass for you? Die young and make a good-lookin' corpse.
Pile some more cow on my plate. Clip its horns, wipe its ass, and send it in.
People like me go early...so hey, look at it as a good thing if you want.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 07:13 PM
I don't look at the premature death of a living being as a good thing.
Love thy enemy. Who said that? Wasn't it Santa Claus?
Csihar
09-24-2011, 07:20 PM
That Maddox piece was pretty stupid and more importantly not very funny. I used to love his site but he's lost it. It's weird, I've never met a vegetarian/vegan who preaches but 7/10 people who eat meat and fish will make a negative comment when they find out someone is vegetarian/vegan. About 2/10 will routinely tell them to start eating meat/fish again.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 07:32 PM
Sorry If i sounded preachy Csihar in my day to day life i dont really express my beliefs to people who arent interested or in this case people who are just eating meat. Yet when someone says a pretty broad statement about a belief i have the "man" in me comes to arms. People ask me why I dont meat, sometimes I explain, sometimes I dont. Some times I respond "well why is it that you eat meat." You hear a lot of the things that we're listed earlier. One thing that baffles me however is when people say its less healthy and you cannot sustain adequate vitamins and nutrients. I ask those people do you actively pursue vitamisn anutrients in your food, are you eating meat for its protein?, are you eating carrots for beta carotene,? are you drinking the milk for vitamin D and calcium? I hope your as conscious about the vitamins and mineral you take in as I am conscious about abstaining from thing I view as harmful. I wish for once to just hear an honest reason why people do it instead of something that sounds good. Humerox came pretty close and I respect that a thousand times more then someone who gives an excuse that while seemingly sounding scientific has no grounding in why they themselves do it.
" I eat meat because I like it, it tastes good, my friends and family do it, its advertized on tv, its considered acceptable in this society and Im unconcerned with its effects on myself, and the environment. I also have very little respect and or much apathy for the creatures I consume."
I'd have a lot more respect for you! So would the vegetarian/vegan community!"
Harrison
09-24-2011, 07:36 PM
No one gives a fuck about the "community".
I eat meat because that's what you're supposed, and designed, to do. I don't shun groups of foods like a haughty prick while millions starve to death.
"Lol you're dying from not eating but I'm just not going to eat this food in front of me because I have an imaginary moral pedestal to stand on!"
Get off it.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 07:41 PM
I'm glad you said get off my imaginary moral pedestal instead of get off my high horse, It should be documented that as a vegan using an animal for a source of transportation or even as a metaphor is highly against my beliefs!!!
meet the georges laraque:
http://i.imgur.com/X5Uk0.jpg
6'3 250lbs of raw fighting machine. he was the most feared player in the nhl, his job was literally to destroy anyone who dared touch his teammates. here's what happened to u if u decided to get friendly with one of his players:
http://i.imgur.com/oBR9l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RMlu6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hrbRS.jpg
it didn't matter that georges couldnt skate worth a damn, his ability to beat ppl into a bloody pulp made him a hot commodity. things were good and the habs' players were free to prance around like women and score the odd goal without fear of reprisal.
then all of a sudden georges stopped eating meat. worse yet he became a vegan. overnight the respect and fear nhl players held for him vanished and he was a virtual laughing stock. instead of being a ferocious beast who would indiscriminately end players' careers with titanic right hooks he developed some lame 'code' where he'd only fight players who wanted to fight him on the ice.
within the year georges was benched and would never play again. because of his contract he was still being paid but he became so useless the team manager's told him just not to show up.
last i checked he now works for the green party of canada and if u type in georges laraque in google it autocompletes to georges laraque gay.
this is what happens if u dont eat meat
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 07:54 PM
Yo what is it with white people, sports, eating flesh, and admiration of slave owners?
Yo what is it with white people, sports, eating flesh, and admiration of slave owners?
u gay son?
Harrison
09-24-2011, 07:59 PM
Yo what is it with white people, sports, eating flesh, and admiration of slave owners?
Racist shitbag detected.
Mardur
09-24-2011, 09:08 PM
Speaking of kids... How's your brother man =)
This is an example of taking things too far.
Visage you're fucking scum.
stormlord
09-24-2011, 09:10 PM
I've never steak I didn't like nor a sausage that wouldn't go down.
If that other guy doesn't want it, I'll take it. Give me his plate.
stormlord
09-24-2011, 09:18 PM
you know what you guys are right.
i was pretty damn foolish to think that not eating animals was a good idea.
in the spirit of assimilating to the general notion of what is considered masculine behavior I retract my statements expressing concerning for living creatures, the well being of my brothers and sisters, and respect for the great gurus of the past. I am ready to become a man!
Will someone pass me a beer?
Who do I root for in football?
How can I become a more lustful individual driven by what looks right and feels good?
How do I aim a gun?
Am I going to need to buy a truck or an SUV.
God being a man is going to be rough!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VznlDlNPw4Q&feature=related
Mardur
09-24-2011, 09:20 PM
Visage, I know you think you're a "people person," but when someone (validly) brings up your inability to be a father to your own children, "lol ur brother is dead" is not a valid response.
Sometimes you're just a horrible loser unable to take care of the many fuck ups you've made in life. There's no comebacks for that.
Maybe some day you'll grow up past the mental age of 12 and realize this, or maybe some day someone else will realize what a waste of carbon you are and relieve you of mortality. Either of these are acceptable to the collective human population.
Csihar
09-24-2011, 09:31 PM
Sorry If i sounded preachy Csihar in my day to day life i dont really express my beliefs to people who arent interested or in this case people who are just eating meat.
I wasn't referring to you. I just said I always hear/see people talking about vegetarian/vegans preaching but in my experience it's always been the opposite. I'm a vegetarian but I never talk to people about them eating meat and fish. I rarely mix myself in a discussion, especially with comments like this
I eat meat because that's what you're supposed, and designed, to do. I don't shun groups of foods like a haughty prick while millions starve to death.
The lack of logic is strong in this one. Off the top of my head there are at least 3 rebuttals here, one of which would be that the amount of food the animal is fed is significantly more than the amount of food the animal yields after it's been slaughtered.
returnofahipster
09-24-2011, 10:04 PM
Cshiar - I have a chart in my room that shows the amount onf energy and water that goes into producing a pound of different kinda of food. Fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, dairy. It takes about 24 gallons of water to produce a pound of strawberries (lowest on the list) and i believe 600 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. I can only imagine the amount of other resources that go to this. I worked on an ex girlfriend families dairy farm a few times. The way the animals were treated were appalling. They even admitted that. They explained to me to turn over a profit they cant really provide the most humane of accommodations.
Tommy_Wiseau
09-24-2011, 10:05 PM
Cshiar - I have a chart in my room that shows the amount onf energy and water that goes into producing a pound of different kinda of food. Fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, dairy. It takes about 24 gallons of water to produce a pound of strawberries (lowest on the list) and i believe 600 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. I can only imagine the amount of other resources that go to this.
water is about as renewable as it gets
Mardur
09-24-2011, 10:06 PM
That's life bro. Be glad you weren't born a cow and grab some A1 sauce.
Harrison
09-24-2011, 10:13 PM
Man, I hope he keeps posting his hippie bullshit. This should be good by the time I come back tomorrow morning.
Recycled Children
09-24-2011, 10:27 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/rbibyw.jpg
You look like a total faggot. Nice shades you must have been the coolest guy in 2003.
http://i55.tinypic.com/rbibyw.jpg
You look like a total faggot. Nice shades you must have been the coolest guy in 2003.
gj idiot
Tommy_Wiseau
09-24-2011, 10:42 PM
you stalked me from my previous account but dont know who that is?
Feces
09-24-2011, 10:45 PM
Cshiar - I have a chart in my room that shows the amount onf energy and water that goes into producing a pound of different kinda of food. Fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, dairy. It takes about 24 gallons of water to produce a pound of strawberries (lowest on the list) and i believe 600 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. I can only imagine the amount of other resources that go to this. I worked on an ex girlfriend families dairy farm a few times. The way the animals were treated were appalling. They even admitted that. They explained to me to turn over a profit they cant really provide the most humane of accommodations.
I fucking hate animals. It's why I beat the fuck out of them and then eat the fuck out of them.
Knuckle
09-24-2011, 11:31 PM
Why do fat people get so mad stop hiding from yourself your fat. It's not a joke retard your health is at risk and your hurting peoples eyes.
lol
Biffins
09-24-2011, 11:52 PM
Why do fat people get so mad stop hiding from yourself your fat. It's not a joke retard your health is at risk and your hurting peoples eyes.
Not sure if trolling or illiterate.
Tommy_Wiseau
09-24-2011, 11:57 PM
Not sure if trolling or illiterate.
step your game up
Harrison
09-25-2011, 05:20 AM
No more hippie imaginary statistics?! wtf
Daldolma
09-25-2011, 07:38 AM
How has noone remarked upon the outstanding degree of douchebaggery necessary to refer to Jesus as "Yesus Christos (Jesus)". That demonstrates more than anything why people fucking hate vegetarians. You're telling us something we all already know in the most self-righteous and pretentious way possible.
Yes, we know meat is an inefficient foodsource. Yes, we know too much meat can be unhealthy. Yes, we know that many of the animals that we consume live in terrible conditions. But guess what? Meat is fucking delicious, and humans have been eating it for, oh, ever. We have evolved to eat it, and if you don't eat it, you need to be downing vitamins every day to make up for it. Furthermore, whether or not I eat meat is not going to make one iota's worth of difference in meat production. In fact, if I were to somehow singlehandedly lower demand for meat, it would result in the immediate deaths of the animals I was trying to save. What do you think happens to animals raised to be slaughtered for meat when there is no demand? Hint: they're not released in Iowa. They're dead from the moment they're born, whether they end up being eaten or disposed of.
Stop being an insufferable douche and eat meat or don't. I don't care. I don't eat papaya very often, you don't eat steak very often. Cool. Just stop pretending there's some moral high ground associated with being a 21st century pussy with such a high degree of comfort that he can afford to worry about his food's feelings. You want to do something moral? Buy cattle and either care for them yourself or ship them to the third world to be eaten. THAT would make a positive difference in the world outside of your own sensibilities. But let me guess: you don't care *that* much. So much for Yesus.
xshayla701
09-25-2011, 09:40 AM
did not read thread but why does anyone gaf imo
Harrison
09-27-2011, 02:20 AM
How has noone remarked upon the outstanding degree of douchebaggery necessary to refer to Jesus as "Yesus Christos (Jesus)". That demonstrates more than anything why people fucking hate vegetarians. You're telling us something we all already know in the most self-righteous and pretentious way possible.
Yes, we know meat is an inefficient foodsource. Yes, we know too much meat can be unhealthy. Yes, we know that many of the animals that we consume live in terrible conditions. But guess what? Meat is fucking delicious, and humans have been eating it for, oh, ever. We have evolved to eat it, and if you don't eat it, you need to be downing vitamins every day to make up for it. Furthermore, whether or not I eat meat is not going to make one iota's worth of difference in meat production. In fact, if I were to somehow singlehandedly lower demand for meat, it would result in the immediate deaths of the animals I was trying to save. What do you think happens to animals raised to be slaughtered for meat when there is no demand? Hint: they're not released in Iowa. They're dead from the moment they're born, whether they end up being eaten or disposed of.
Stop being an insufferable douche and eat meat or don't. I don't care. I don't eat papaya very often, you don't eat steak very often. Cool. Just stop pretending there's some moral high ground associated with being a 21st century pussy with such a high degree of comfort that he can afford to worry about his food's feelings. You want to do something moral? Buy cattle and either care for them yourself or ship them to the third world to be eaten. THAT would make a positive difference in the world outside of your own sensibilities. But let me guess: you don't care *that* much. So much for Yesus.
Hey, at least someone gets it.
jarshale
09-27-2011, 02:24 AM
How has noone remarked upon the outstanding degree of douchebaggery necessary to refer to Jesus as "Yesus Christos (Jesus)". That demonstrates more than anything why people fucking hate vegetarians. You're telling us something we all already know in the most self-righteous and pretentious way possible.
Yes, we know meat is an inefficient foodsource. Yes, we know too much meat can be unhealthy. Yes, we know that many of the animals that we consume live in terrible conditions. But guess what? Meat is fucking delicious, and humans have been eating it for, oh, ever. We have evolved to eat it, and if you don't eat it, you need to be downing vitamins every day to make up for it. Furthermore, whether or not I eat meat is not going to make one iota's worth of difference in meat production. In fact, if I were to somehow singlehandedly lower demand for meat, it would result in the immediate deaths of the animals I was trying to save. What do you think happens to animals raised to be slaughtered for meat when there is no demand? Hint: they're not released in Iowa. They're dead from the moment they're born, whether they end up being eaten or disposed of.
Stop being an insufferable douche and eat meat or don't. I don't care. I don't eat papaya very often, you don't eat steak very often. Cool. Just stop pretending there's some moral high ground associated with being a 21st century pussy with such a high degree of comfort that he can afford to worry about his food's feelings. You want to do something moral? Buy cattle and either care for them yourself or ship them to the third world to be eaten. THAT would make a positive difference in the world outside of your own sensibilities. But let me guess: you don't care *that* much. So much for Yesus.
word.
mimixownzall
09-27-2011, 03:02 AM
Why do fat people get so mad stop hiding from yourself your fat. It's not a joke retard your health is at risk and your hurting peoples eyes.
Speaking of hurting eyes, can you please quit posting those pics of yourself on the RL pic thread? I mean, one or two are fine, but like 30? Besides, all of them are of you with your eyes opened as far as you can, maintaining that "did someone just accuse me of being heterosexual" look. Get over yourself, douchebag.
mimixownzall
09-27-2011, 03:13 AM
500 bucks says returnofahipster wears leather shoes, leather gloves and has owned a vehicle with leather interior.
abedog
09-27-2011, 03:18 AM
"You want to do something moral? Buy cattle and either care for them yourself or ship them to the third world to be eaten. THAT would make a positive difference in the world outside of your own sensibilities. But let me guess: you don't care *that* much. So much for Yesus."
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mimixownzall
09-27-2011, 03:30 AM
Cshiar - I have a chart in my room that shows the amount onf energy and water that goes into producing a pound of different kinda of food. Fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, dairy. It takes about 24 gallons of water to produce a pound of strawberries (lowest on the list) and i believe 600 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. I can only imagine the amount of other resources that go to this. I worked on an ex girlfriend families dairy farm a few times. The way the animals were treated were appalling. They even admitted that. They explained to me to turn over a profit they cant really provide the most humane of accommodations.
And as Keith explains in section two, Political Vegetarians, eating soy burgers won’t save the planet, either. All those goofy vegetarian arguments about how many more people we could feed per acre if we all ate the crops instead of the animals who eat the crops are based on a flawed idea: that the animals who provide our meat are supposed to eat corn. They’re not. They’re supposed to eat grass. Keith recalculates the calories-per-acare figures assuming we were smart enough to raise our animals on their natural food, and not surprisingly, the disparity shrinks to nearly zero.
And feeding the masses is only part of the equation. When you raise animals in a pasture, you create topsoil — you literally can’t create topsoil without animals. But when you raise corn, you destroy topsoil. It’s mono-crop agriculture that uses extraordinary amounts of water and creates soil runoff. Then, of course, there’s all that fossil fuel required to keep the crops growing as the topsoil disappears. (Imagine the fun of explaining to your wild-eyed vegan friends that their “sustainable lifestyle” is enriching the oil industry.)
In part three, Nutritional Vegetarians, Keith recounts how her vegan diet destroyed her health. I’m sorry to say much of the damage is permanent. Her spine has degenerated, and it won’t come back. She spends much of her life in pain. I’m also sorry to say I know some vegetarians with ailments similar to hers, but unlike Keith, they refuse to connect the dots.
From a neat little article on a book about an ex-vegan who did a lot of research and debunks the 'vegetarian myths'.
http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2010/01/08/the-vegetarian-myth
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