What breaks invis?

[FatMagic]

I can't remember what causes invis to break or drop. I know there was the random "it-might-drop-at-anytime" thing on lower level Invis/Camo's. But what actions cause it to break? Does hailing an NPC break it? Can you sell to a vendor without it breaking? Can you hand in quest items without it breaking?

Just curious - thanks!

[Mordachai]

I can't remember what causes invis to break or drop. I know there was the random "it-might-drop-at-anytime" thing on lower level Invis/Camo's. But what actions cause it to break? Does hailing an NPC break it? Can you sell to a vendor without it breaking? Can you hand in quest items without it breaking?

Just curious - thanks!


The only actions I can think of to cancel it are turning on attack and casting. You cannot sell or hand in items while invis either, only while sneaking.

[Uaellaen]

casting / autoattack / trades break invis

[Ferok]

Looting is another one.

[Excision Rottun]

Selling to a vendor should break it.

Hails should not.

Undead NPC's will not hesitate to break your regular invis at very inopportune times.

[Ferok]

Also, NPC AOE near you.

[Striiker]

Also... Invis will drop when it is most inopportune to do so. :)
Try running up to a Hill Giant when invis just to get a better look.. Or, try running through a particularly nasty room in a dungeon.. :eek:

[Shannacore]

Undead NPC's will not hesitate to break your regular invis at very inopportune times.

Annoyingly true.

[Virtuosos]

try running to the bath camp in MM, and as soon as you get past the stairs it starts failing, leaving you with VERY little choice as to where to run to in the next 5 seconds


ektar and zilo saved my life as i ran into the baht with a train of 6 mobs on me with no layhands and very little mana....thank christ for root and /cry

[Tudana]

NPC will not respond to you with your "hail" if your invis.

[Ferok]

NPC will not respond to you with your "hail" if your invis.

Depends on the NPC. Translocators sure do.

[Icecometus]

On live, taking any damage would break invis. The traps you find in dungeons where there mostly to make sneaking around invis harder, on here I have not noticed the traps breaking invis or sneak/hide. Not sure if fall damage would break invis on live but it does not break it here.

[BeelzeBob]

How does using invis to complete quests work? As an agnostic ogre trying to raise faction, is this useful at all?

[Dawgrin]

How does using invis to complete quests work? As an agnostic ogre trying to raise faction, is this useful at all?

You cannot use invis as a way to modify your faction to complete quests...at least not without using some exploit or something. If you were to invis and try to hail the mob he will not answer you. If you try to hand in your items, your invis would break.

[Kornaki]

You cannot use invis as a way to modify your faction to complete quests...at least not without using some exploit or something. If you were to invis and try to hail the mob he will not answer you. If you try to hand in your items, your invis would break.

I think it used to be on live you could put the item in the person's trade window, then go invis, then hit the 'give' button to do the quest at indifferent faction

[Daldaen]

NPC will not respond to you with your "hail" if your invis.

They will if they see invis. If that NPC in particular has the ability to innately see invis he will respond to your hail.

I think it used to be on live you could put the item in the person's trade window, then go invis, then hit the 'give' button to do the quest at indifferent faction

You could open trade window and then have someone else invis you then turn it in if i recall correctly...

[Dawgrin]

You could open trade window and then have someone else invis you then turn it in if i recall correctly...

That is something I would consider an exploit...

[Daldaen]

That is something I would consider an exploit...

Hardly is this an exploit. Someone with sneak does the exact same thing. This is just utilizing a friend. Do you consider Multi-Questing an exploit also???

[veldamirx]

didn't you need invis to do the red wine quest in Neriak, if your faction was low enough? That might have just been getting to him, I just recall how annoying it was to find "safe spots" in neriak to stand and recast, especially on a Zek server.

[BeelzeBob]

I think it used to be on live you could put the item in the person's trade window, then go invis, then hit the 'give' button to do the quest at indifferent faction

Okay this is what I remember, but obviously this doesn't work if you're KoS. In that case, I'll probably have to donate for wolf form. Probably easier anyway.

[Dawgrin]

Hardly is this an exploit. Someone with sneak does the exact same thing. This is just utilizing a friend. Do you consider Multi-Questing an exploit also???

Different strokes for different folks I guess...I would consider this wrong for 2 reasons.

#1 - It tries to get around a piece of functionality put in place specifically to stop it. I say this because if you were to be invis and try to trade with the NPC your invis would drop. This behavior was put in place to stop people from being able to modify their faction easily to do quests.

#2 - I cannot think of any role-play scenario to justify it. Here I am visible and I hand something to someone. Then I disappear, well that person would not just hand this invisible person something. At least that's how I see it.

As for sneaking, personally I would think that, if you traded/quested while sneaking behind someone, they should turn to face you and your sneaking would be over. But I also see a role-play reasoning where you might kind of be like a person in the shadows, unwilling to show their identity, but still wanting to do business with this person, and they allow it.

Same with MQing...I can see why it should not be done, but I can also see a role-play justification for it, where your friends helped with a quest and so this person is willing to give you the reward on behalf of the group.

I know my reasoning is flawed and people can take these arguments a million different ways, but that is how I see it at least...

[Yoite]

AEs only break your invis if they hit you. like if you resist it wont break.

[Daldaen]

Ehh the exploits are kind of double sided in my opinion. Some I don't see issues with some I do. Invising and questing I don't really see an issue with, factions can be a pain or even impossible to raise to do quest X. Multiquesting also I don't see a problem with. The pain it is to camp one mob for 8 hours, and never get what you are after then see someone else come in and stay for 5minutes and get what you were after. It is awful nice when that person is willing to trade in that quest piece so you didn't waste 8 hours of your life for nothing and you can complete the quest. Then again MQing is double sided when people start farming quest items to sell the MQ of :/


If you resist it breaks on live. I'd assume it has been this way in EQ for awhile though idk about classic. Same with any sort of detrimental spell. Like if you were to invis, aggro a spell caster. Reinvis and then they cast a spell on you, even a resist would break your invis.

[Kainzo]

What DOES break INVIS

1. Merchant Window
2. Casting a spell
3. Aggroing a see-invis mob and it SUCCESSFULLY hits you
4. Dying (obviously)
5. Opening a trade
6. Accepting a res
7. Looting a corpse
8. A successful spell hit.

What does NOT:
1. Dragging corpses
2. Falling damage
3. Aggroing mobs but they DO NOT hit you.
4. Accepting a summon
5. Others casting spells ON you
6. Resisting spells/AE

[Yoite]

If you resist it breaks on live. I'd assume it has been this way in EQ for awhile though idk about classic. Same with any sort of detrimental spell. Like if you were to invis, aggro a spell caster. Reinvis and then they cast a spell on you, even a resist would break your invis.

true, but i was speaking of AEs

like if your running down to bottom of Lguk can you run past some people at like ass/sup camp and their wiz mob they are killing does an AE nuke, if you resist it, it wont break your invis (ivu in this case but w/e)

[Zereh]

I'm pretty sure there is special code in the game to ensure that Invis will randomly drop off of the cleric way more often than any other class.

;) Z

[Thrymm]

I forget, what if someone casts see invis on an NPC or mob and then someone KoS to such NPC/mob runs by invis?

[Extunarian]

I forget, what if someone casts see invis on an NPC or mob and then someone KoS to such NPC/mob runs by invis?

I have not tried specifically with see invis, but you usually can't buff mobs. You'll get a 'the target was unaffected' or some such message. See invis I would think is considered a buff.

[JaVeDK]

I have not tried specifically with see invis, but you usually can't buff mobs. You'll get a 'the target was unaffected' or some such message. See invis I would think is considered a buff.

You can however buff charmed mobs, and the buffs will stay after charm breaks...

[Excision Rottun]

You can however buff charmed mobs, and the buffs will stay after charm breaks...

I see Abacab rolling an Enchanter in the near future.

[Dersk]

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