View Full Version : Monk - tips on how to make money at level 21
eqravenprince
11-15-2011, 05:33 PM
As a Monk I'm finding it very difficult to get experience and money/loot at the same time. Without weight eliminating bags, how does any Monk actually make money at a reasonable rate and still make experience. I figure I am either doomed to a life of asking for weight reducing bags every time I log in or fighting low level stuff like Willowisps until I can buy a few 100% weight reducing bag if there is such a thing. Any advice would be helpful.
Szeth
11-15-2011, 05:36 PM
AC is borked on this server. I did the same thing early on levelling up... then realized it hardly matters. I usually run around with a few hundred plat on me these days for convenience.
Kabilos
11-15-2011, 05:45 PM
And yes there are 100% weight reduce bags, they are call Bag of the Tinkerer, they weigh 1.0 and are 100% 10 slot giant capacity
Waffen
11-15-2011, 09:00 PM
AC is borked on this server. I did the same thing early on levelling up... then realized it hardly matters. I usually run around with a few hundred plat on me these days for convenience.
so...you're saying the 13wt/stones rule of thumb doesn't apply here?
Nagash
11-15-2011, 09:15 PM
so...you're saying the 13wt/stones rule of thumb doesn't apply here?
It does (easy to check on a level 1 monk). I believe it is more a discussion some people have questioning the effect of AC on P99 not matching what it was on Live. This debate then moves further contemplating the variances in mitigation AC and avoidance AC. I've always played casters so I wouldn't dare entering this discussion but that's the gist of it which will explain why some monk disregard weight to a degree (but I would think they do once they are past a certain AC level)
Nagash/Petitpas
tekniq
11-15-2011, 10:36 PM
not possible my friend...
Flash
11-15-2011, 10:54 PM
Crag Spiders in the zone just past Highpass, close to the Karanas. You'll be here from 21-24 and get TONS of Spider Silk, which you can later sell for some good plat, about 10pp a stack.
And while AC isn't that big of a sacrifice in this game, I remember something about Monks ability to dodge and mitigate incoming blows naturally is also impacted by being over the weight scale.
eqravenprince
11-15-2011, 10:57 PM
I notice I cannot take on blue con (risky) mobs when I'm at about 20 weight, but can easily when I'm 14 or below weight. And forget about taking on blue con (dangerous) mobs. Even light blue becomes more risky with 20 weight or more. AC may very well be different than live, but it does make a difference in every time I've gone above the weight limit.
Handull
11-15-2011, 11:03 PM
heh, the Tink Bags cost a cool 5040pp, from deep inside SolA, and thats with good CHA.
I've found on my monk that i've been able to make about 2kpp from vendoring stuff by level 35. A lot of it has to do with smart looting. Since you often will be near the corpse, you can loot it before other people if you want (pass around the coin if u feel greedy, but then pick what u loot. learn what low weight items sell high (and stack) and leave the fine steel for others
in OT a stack of suculent sap will net you 8gp per sap and drops sometimes two at a time off mobs (and weighs like nothing)
i've found being 10-25 stones over weight isn't too bad a hit. if you are soloing, then u might notice it, but in a group its not a big deal at low levels, thats just my opinion
pickled_heretic
11-16-2011, 10:52 AM
crag spiders will destroy you. their poison is very potent at level 20, especially for a class that cannot cure it by itself.
sad to say but i believe your best recourse is to endure being poor for a while until you are higher and can farm something like droga or roll on loot in the crypt in sebilis.
Messianic
11-16-2011, 12:05 PM
What do you need money for?
Honestly, your initial gear setup is relatively cheap:
1) Full set of Wu's - 400p from the right seller
2) Wu's Quivering Staff - 400-500p from the right seller
That'll easily get you to 30+.
If you know what you're doing, you can pretty easily make this by level 20 on HQ bear skins, bone chips, and willowisp stones (greater stones given to the gypsy in NK for the 9pp sellable book, regular stones vendored).
Now, since you're already level 21 (and EQ isn't an easy game if you don't know a lot), you could farm the gnolls/gnoll reavers in EK for small exp and bronze weapons/raw hide, sellable to the vendors nearby.
Other than that, my recommendation is to live in upper guk - get a group where you have someone else taking the hits and stock up gems/cash/sellables. Your weight is pretty irrelevant if there's a tank in the group.
Once you're in your mid-late 20s, a surprisingly good place to group for both $$ and exp is the sarnak fort in LoIO...Plenty of twinks there too.
If you can actually find people grouping in High Keep (you should be 24+ to actually be a benefit to the group), that's also a very rich area - it's probably the best exp for mid-late 20s, it's just there aren't many spawns so it's not good if there is more than one group...
Lovely
11-16-2011, 01:06 PM
Monk is awful at farming $$$ for obvious reasons, you should focus on grouping up and exping instead. The $$$$ will come by default when you get higher levels and good shit starts dropping.
Nagash
11-16-2011, 01:53 PM
Always wondered if the weight restriction on monks wasn' initially of way to reflect the poverty vow that monks take in our world.
eqravenprince
11-16-2011, 03:32 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. All my money leading up to level 20+ was from newbie yard, blackburrow gnoll teeth quest, and greater lightstone quest. But now those mobs do not yield experience and just haven't found a replacement for experience giving mobs that commonly drop lightweight items that either sell for good coin or can be turned in for good coin. Currently I just log on, attempt to find someone who can summon me some bags, and then go hunt Dark Elf guards for exp and bronze weapon drop. Looking forward to High Hold Keep. By the way, I made level 22 last night. Up to 156 platinum from selling the bronze weapons. And so far I've had good fortune in finding someone within 30 minutes that gave me a few summoned bags.
Silentone
11-16-2011, 04:26 PM
weight does effect your AC and at lower levels it may seems to be drasticly effecting you but once you level up and your AC is high then the loss of AC seems almost irrelevant.
Quiksilver
11-17-2011, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. All my money leading up to level 20+ was from newbie yard, blackburrow gnoll teeth quest, and greater lightstone quest. But now those mobs do not yield experience and just haven't found a replacement for experience giving mobs that commonly drop lightweight items that either sell for good coin or can be turned in for good coin. Currently I just log on, attempt to find someone who can summon me some bags, and then go hunt Dark Elf guards for exp and bronze weapon drop. Looking forward to High Hold Keep. By the way, I made level 22 last night. Up to 156 platinum from selling the bronze weapons. And so far I've had good fortune in finding someone within 30 minutes that gave me a few summoned bags.
My first char on live was a monk and first char on P99 was a monk as well. Good way to start off it definitely using those 100% WR bags. Couple things tho. Don't put anything of importance in them - only your loot from kills, no personal gear, etc. And ask nicely for someone to duel and kill you to save the WR bags for your next grind sesh ;)
Flash
11-17-2011, 02:16 AM
weight does effect your AC and at lower levels it may seems to be drasticly effecting you but once you level up and your AC is high then the loss of AC seems almost irrelevant.
Not true because being over the weight cap as a Monk affects your Defense SKILL. And your Defense SKILL directly correlates and scales with the amount of AC you get from your equipment. So the higher your Defense skill is and the higher your level, the more your AC will be impacted by being over the weight cap.
eqravenprince
11-17-2011, 02:04 PM
My first char on live was a monk and first char on P99 was a monk as well. Good way to start off it definitely using those 100% WR bags. Couple things tho. Don't put anything of importance in them - only your loot from kills, no personal gear, etc. And ask nicely for someone to duel and kill you to save the WR bags for your next grind sesh ;)
I didn't know you didn't lose experience from that. Good tip!
Djanis
11-17-2011, 02:24 PM
If you have the patience for it, try to raise your tradeskills. You can make good money at any level. I am only level 9, don't have any high level characters to fund me, and I'm making hundreds of plat with handmade backpacks/bearksin potion bags. It is actually pretty cheap to raise tradeskills if you know how to do it.
Flash
11-17-2011, 02:40 PM
If you have the patience for it, try to raise your tradeskills. You can make good money at any level. I am only level 9, don't have any high level characters to fund me, and I'm making hundreds of plat with handmade backpacks/bearksin potion bags. It is actually pretty cheap to raise tradeskills if you know how to do it.
Went from 0-115 Blacksmith on my pally and spent less than 100p.
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