View Full Version : HUGE LEVELING EXPLOIT!
umadbro
11-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Currently this server has a HUGE leveling exploit several of its' well-known people here (on the forums) have abused to level up. The mob is located in Misty Thicket. The name of the spawn is Slaythe (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.html?id=2110).
He is used in a quest called Avenger Battle Axe (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=432).
"Bronin Higginsbot is sometimes found in Rivervale and sometimes near the southern tower in Misty Thicket. When you ask Bronin about the Emerald shard, he says he will give it to you if you do a small favor. Apparently a bounty hunter by the name of Slaythe is after him. He says if you return a piece of his body, he will give you the emerald. Slaythe is beyond the wall in Misty Thicket. He appears to be a Froglok (around level 21 or so)! He hops around between the Orc camp and the wall. You may have to talk to Bronin to get him to spawn. If you defeat him, you get a froglok leg (lore item), a few gold, and the following faction adjustments: Frogloks of Kurnak gets worse and Sarnak, Swamp Giants of Kurnak and Iskar get better...."
Apparently there are people abusing this quest and spawning Slaythe instantly (see above for the portion of the quest where you are to slay him to advance the quest). I personally know people who have gained 6 levels (15-21) in just one night from exploiting him.
Here is a rather small list of players I know for a fact who have abused Slaythe:
Masterkova (Lovely)
Darwoth
Salty
What bothers me the most is these players chose not to report this exploit, instead they chose to abuse it. This server is suppose to remain as close to classic as possible. I'm pretty sure classic had no instant spawning mobs to experience on...the main thing is the above players and anyone else who has abused this leveling exploit chose to take advantage of it, hurting our server and making it unfair to the rest of population who is leveling the right way.
Smedy
11-28-2011, 01:58 PM
this true? time 2 take a week break on the bench for these dawgs maybe
Samoht
11-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Frogloks of Kurnak gets worse and Sarnak, Swamp Giants of Kurnak and Iskar get better....
Sounds like this quest shouldn't even be in.
gloinz
11-28-2011, 02:00 PM
thx for reporting exploits undercover brother +2 pvp champ points
rollback those ho's
Palemoon
11-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Should be investigated and time outs issued.
Slave
11-28-2011, 02:01 PM
He was an extremely rare spawn in Classic, I don't know why you can talk him into spawning here.
I've seen Erage do this as well.
Just like they argued to keep recharging wands in so they can farm a bunch of them, aoe every guard in misty down then recharge from guard plat - these guys are in it to grease every advantage they can lool.
Tombom
11-28-2011, 02:13 PM
show em some pine papa rog
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Gloinz confirmed legit calling for roll back of guildies. Let's keep this legit folks. Roll backs should be in order.
Galanteer
11-28-2011, 02:37 PM
I should be used to it by now, but I still shake my head and wonder why these people even play.....and even more so, that they consider themselves good at this game.
people exploiting for xp is classic
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Well, we'll see what the GMs have to say about this bros. This one's going to the top.
Thanks same here. LOL
Whoever made this thread is a fkin moron
Yeah, be clear about accusations people. Lovely exploited recharging/red wands to level faster, not Slaythe.
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 02:50 PM
I'm all cool with the wands while they lasted, but abusing some quest that gives Kunark faction is a very shameful offense.
Snufz
11-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Seen it.
Whistles not so clean.
Truth
11-28-2011, 02:54 PM
fuckin ackers ruin the game
Lovely
11-28-2011, 02:55 PM
I don't know this quest and I never did it or any other exp quest. I get E X P by killing mobs and grouping with my friends.
ROGEAN if I ever did this quest then please ban me.
Cuz I know I didn't.
Anyway feel free to forum hero all you guys want. I play this game in Norrath not on some forum. Come at me in game my bro's if you dare.. Which you won't cuz we all know the result :D
cured
11-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Anyway feel free to forum hero all you guys want. I play this game in Norrath not on some forum. Come at me in game my bro's if you dare.. Which you won't cuz we all know the result :D
Your corpse rotting on the Nektulos bridge? ;)
Lovely
11-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Your corpse rotting on the Nektulos bridge? ;)
My name in game is Masterkova. Finding my corpse anywhere will be one of the rarest sights in Norrath.
I average 19 hours a day
Fixed
Knuckle
11-28-2011, 03:09 PM
I don't know this quest and I never did it or any other exp quest. I get E X P by killing mobs and grouping with my friends.
ROGEAN if I ever did this quest then please ban me.
Cuz I know I didn't.
Anyway feel free to forum hero all you guys want. I play this game in Norrath not on some forum. Come at me in game my bro's if you dare.. Which you won't cuz we all know the result :D
cool so masterkova exploits from level 15-28 by abusing a wand exploit that gets removed as a result and instant spawning a quest mob. big things.
Softcore PK
11-28-2011, 03:11 PM
I'm inclined to believe Lovely. She doesn't seem the type to lie.
Lovely
11-28-2011, 03:12 PM
Feel free to continue the lies LOL
That jelly I'm better then you and everyone in your guild?
Lovely
11-28-2011, 03:18 PM
I don't really have to defend myself. 1 week ago I was behind the top people on the server by several levels. After wands was removed I passed everyone and now I'm level 38 and 3 levels ahead of everyone on the server.
If you really think I've done anything special to level faster you're an idiot. I'd be even higher right now if wands never existed or if I didn't boost my friend everyday who just sit afk in groups.
I'm 2 good for you and that's about it. Get better and then talk.
PS: Holocaust when I destroy your little members I tend to get PM's from your members of all the funny excuses they make. Pretty funny, better check your guild :)
Silentone
11-28-2011, 03:25 PM
I dont see how a repeatable quest is a exploit..if this were true ban everyone making lvl one halflings to get extra thex daggers.. if its a super advantage point it out and have people kill each other in at the quest mob fighting for the spawn lol.
PhantomRogue
11-28-2011, 03:25 PM
I tend to believe the people accused didn't exploit this, but I know for a fact they exploited the Wands.
You use 2 Wands to kill guards, they drop more PP than it takes to recharge said wands. Rinse and Repeat.
I've already posted multiple times how to fix recharging of those items, but the Dev's seem to turn a blind eye, so Whatev.
Ill level up properly and jack their shit late game.
Mickets
11-28-2011, 03:25 PM
That jelly I'm better then you and everyone in your guild?
Quite jelly, actually.
-Mickets the Wizard
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 03:25 PM
Wands gone, old Lovely posting returns.
Despite time invested, pretty obvious @ given xp rate questing was involved. Long as its legit, props. Not sure what administrative involvement would even be if it was found out that a quest was abused.
Quest with Kunark faction in vanilla being used is what I'm after here bros.
HippoNipple
11-28-2011, 03:28 PM
I don't really have to defend myself. 1 week ago I was behind the top people on the server by several levels. After wands was removed I passed everyone and now I'm level 38 and 3 levels ahead of everyone on the server.
If you really think I've done anything special to level faster you're an idiot. I'd be even higher right now if wands never existed or if I didn't boost my friends everyday who just sit afks in groups.
I'm 2 good for you and that's about it. Get better and then talk.
I don't even see why people care what level this tranny is. Maybe it sucks if you are wanting the bragging rights for being the first level 50 but for most of us I don't see why it matters in the least. Lovely will get 50 and run around leveling up his/her friends until there are enough people to actually raid with. Being the first to 50 isn't that exciting and will most likely lead to waiting around for another month until the normal people gradually get to 50.
She won't even be able to pvp that much since the majority of the population will be lower levels actually having fun with pvp/pve while she sits on the sidelines bragging on these forums about how legit hardcore she is.
Lemons
11-28-2011, 03:31 PM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1853/babycrying.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/babycrying.jpg/)
Smedy
11-28-2011, 03:31 PM
I can confirm lovelys clean whistle, however holocaust.....
Samoht
11-28-2011, 03:32 PM
I dont see how a repeatable quest is a exploit..
it's an instant respawn npc that comes back on command. they didn't do any quests, they just respawned the npc over and over and over again.
Truth
11-28-2011, 03:33 PM
it's not the destination, its the journey bros
and quite frankly I have already killed 900000000 EQ mobs 9000x before so this journey sux
Lovely
11-28-2011, 03:34 PM
I don't even see why people care what level this tranny is. Maybe it sucks if you are wanting the bragging rights for being the first level 50 but for most of us I don't see why it matters in the least. Lovely will get 50 and run around leveling up his/her friends until there are enough people to actually raid with. Being the first to 50 isn't that exciting and will most likely lead to waiting around for another month until the normal people gradually get to 50.
She won't even be able to pvp that much since the majority of the population will be lower levels actually having fun with pvp/pve while she sits on the sidelines bragging on these forums about how legit hardcore she is.
It will mean that if you enter SolB at level 35 you'll get a fat Ice Comet in your face pretty much and when you try to get your corpse then another Ice comet will land in your face.
Knuckle
11-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Feel free to continue the lies LOL
That jelly I'm better then you and everyone in your guild?
Better than me? how so. I've never even been in PVP level range of you, I'm sure ill shit on you at level 50 when pvp means a rats ass, grats on exploiting and poopsocking your way to level 40 or whatever your at. :)
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 03:40 PM
It will mean that if you enter SolB at level 35 you'll get a fat Ice Comet in your face pretty much and when you try to get your corpse then another Ice comet will land in your face.
Not to mention shock of lightning wasn't interrupting for shit when hitting someone twice who was casting a gate at lvl 20 and channeling through a monk and bard beating on him... think he had a fail charmed elephant on him too lol.
Knuckle
11-28-2011, 03:41 PM
I can confirm lovelys clean whistle, however holocaust.....
her whistle is full of wand splinters
Smedy
11-28-2011, 03:49 PM
lovely's whistle so clean.... so clean
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 03:52 PM
o boy lovely posts
gotta get my helmet for full retard immersion brb
Wands nerfed, old Lovely posting returns - confirmed.
lululalana
11-28-2011, 03:55 PM
and quite frankly I have already killed 900000000 EQ mobs 9000x before so this journey sux
2tru
Glitch
11-28-2011, 04:10 PM
Interestingly enough, most of those factions are fake.
Frogloks of Kunark is real, I guess.
Sarnak? (aka not Sarnak Collective)
Swamp Giants of Kunark? (lolololol what)
Iksar? (aka not legion of cabilis, cabilis residents, etc.)
guineapig
11-28-2011, 04:12 PM
Currently this server has a HUGE leveling exploit several of its' well-known people here (on the forums) have abused to level up. The mob is located in Misty Thicket. The name of the spawn is Slaythe (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.html?id=2110).
He is used in a quest called Avenger Battle Axe (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=432).
"Bronin Higginsbot is sometimes found in Rivervale and sometimes near the southern tower in Misty Thicket. When you ask Bronin about the Emerald shard, he says he will give it to you if you do a small favor. Apparently a bounty hunter by the name of Slaythe is after him. He says if you return a piece of his body, he will give you the emerald. Slaythe is beyond the wall in Misty Thicket. He appears to be a Froglok (around level 21 or so)! He hops around between the Orc camp and the wall. You may have to talk to Bronin to get him to spawn. If you defeat him, you get a froglok leg (lore item), a few gold, and the following faction adjustments: Frogloks of Kurnak gets worse and Sarnak, Swamp Giants of Kurnak and Iskar get better...."
Apparently there are people abusing this quest and spawning Slaythe instantly (see above for the portion of the quest where you are to slay him to advance the quest). I personally know people who have gained 6 levels (15-21) in just one night from exploiting him.
Here is a rather small list of players I know for a fact who have abused Slaythe:
Masterkova (Lovely)
Darwoth
Salty
What bothers me the most is these players chose not to report this exploit, instead they chose to abuse it. This server is suppose to remain as close to classic as possible. I'm pretty sure classic had no instant spawning mobs to experience on...the main thing is the above players and anyone else who has abused this leveling exploit chose to take advantage of it, hurting our server and making it unfair to the rest of population who is leveling the right way.
Slaythe was in the game before Kunark was released.
Earliest post available about Slaythe in the link you provided dates back to February of 2000 and Kunark was released in April.
So unless the Kunark faction hit was added later it is most likely a mistake.
Also, the earliest post about the Eye of Stormhammer quest clearly states:
Just as a side note but Slaythe can be a pretty good kill since he can be shared by potentially a limitless amount of people since he is triggered by saying something. ohh well just my 2cp .
I will conceded that this post is from July of 2000 which is post Kunark, but it's also confirmed that the mob is pre-Kunark.
So far I am not seeing any conclusive evidence that this mob should not exist in its current state with its current spawn mechanic.
guineapig
11-28-2011, 04:15 PM
On a side note, exploits don't go in server chat.
Not moving this thread since I am not the one that decides what gets nerfed in game and the quest is acting as it did on live.
Had this been an actual exploit, I would have had to delete this thread and asked you to submit it in the proper way.
Peppers
11-28-2011, 04:39 PM
shenanigans, shady stuff, Smedy, Salty, Darwoth, Lovely.
these 6 words keep repeating theirselves together throughout this forum.
Pattern forming.
Hmmmm.
Atmas
11-28-2011, 04:41 PM
I'm level 38 and 3 levels ahead of everyone on the server.
Hmmm sounds like awesome PvP.
Mouse
11-28-2011, 04:41 PM
Here is a rather small list of players I know for a fact need to be congratulated:
Masterkova (Lovely)
Darwoth
Salty
What bothers me the most is these players are just so much better than me at playing this game. They think outside of the box, and they give people like me a really good reason to complain about things that I can't do on my own, and don't have enough friends with which to accomplish.
Fixt.
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 04:44 PM
On a side note, exploits don't go in server chat.
Not moving this thread since I am not the one that decides what gets nerfed in game and the quest is acting as it did on live.
Had this been an actual exploit, I would have had to delete this thread and asked you to submit it in the proper way.
Seems to be a common trend with things like repeatedly spawning an NPC being marked as OK, it going public, then being nerfed. The hard and fast rule does not exist, but maybe it can't.
It does show (ahem, for the bluebies) that the red server players definitely have the tricks up their sleeve and can contribute to posting bugs / improving the server (read: griefing by getting exploits addressed).
Peppers
11-28-2011, 05:00 PM
.....being marked as OK, it going public, then being nerfed.
Read: We the staff know more than you know, and whenever it becomes obvious to more than the few who have already figured out we don't, we planned it that way all along and wanted to wait and change it when the time is right. And besides, even if we don't know more, you posted it in the wrong section, so nananananana- doesn't count.
purest
11-28-2011, 05:19 PM
rollback anyone exploiting this quest and give em a vacay
do the same thing to lovely cause we all know that whistle is durty as fuk
Nirgon
11-28-2011, 05:20 PM
I believe Rogean dropped down on Cast to see what was up with his leveling speed. I hope others got a visit as well :) and of course trust in the Emp.
HippoNipple
11-28-2011, 05:31 PM
It will mean that if you enter SolB at level 35 you'll get a fat Ice Comet in your face pretty much and when you try to get your corpse then another Ice comet will land in your face.
Well I hope all of your hard work pays off in 2 months when I'm level 35 - maybe I will just make a level 1 ogre and push your ass in lava
juicedsixfo
11-28-2011, 06:04 PM
I'm level 8.
Come at me bro.
Albane
11-28-2011, 06:08 PM
It will mean that if you enter SolB at level 35 you'll get a fat Ice Comet in your face pretty much and when you try to get your corpse then another Ice comet will land in your face.
I thought this server had a 4 level PvP range. Are you going to be level 39 for the next 2 months?
Lazortag
11-28-2011, 06:16 PM
I thought this server had a 4 level PvP range. Are you going to be level 39 for the next 2 months?
SolB is FFA actually.
skorge
11-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Lovely wont have Ice Comet until a few months or so...as it wasn't in the game until the end of July...that's 3+ months after release. So basically you got over 2 months to catch up to her before she can cast Ice Comet.
lovely's whistle so clean.... so clean
Ya of course its clean its made of dirt...
Hasbinbad
11-28-2011, 07:07 PM
Wipe the whistle clean. SO clean.
philanthropy
11-28-2011, 07:19 PM
so we's wipin' 'er or?
Tombom
11-28-2011, 07:20 PM
confirmed 100%
CHusk2
11-28-2011, 09:44 PM
How do you have that much time to devote to EQ?
Lovely bro, I'd hate to post SS of our conversation after your wand incident when you thought you were doing it big... We all saw what happened when I stopped leveling the entirity of my guild and focused solely on leveling myself... you remained L30 and I was L35.
The fact that I haven't logged in in 3 full days and you're only 38 is a testament to how bad you are. Including a funny SK screen when he avoided SK like the plague while I was leveling, I logged for 30minutes to shower and he had came into the zone trying to level and immediately left when the champ came back.
http://i41.tinypic.com/im6suv.png
SS from Lovely telling me no EXP in My Zone (trademarked) then immediately leaving My Zone (TM)
http://i41.tinypic.com/vzjvo0.png
Also, I personally got 3 cloaks (that I solod, 5 total when including pulling it to our lowbies in SK b/c I didnt want to dick with it - server first was on Nov 21 when I was L24 if that gives any indication how much time I spent leveling my guild rather than myself) before your first and solo'd rathyl (reincarnate) at L28, got 2 HBB, and drelzna - this was before your wand exploiting so you were around L22. Also, I hope you'd be able to solo drelzna with 10 wands for instagib status, i mean seriously bro?
chuck
11-28-2011, 10:02 PM
they be deaded now bro
Truth
11-28-2011, 10:04 PM
lumie cant be sona i refuse to believe
Also Lovely, per our conversation that I'm too lazy to post SS of, you were not the 2nd level 20 - I was the first, Dekadenz was the second (bard), hell you weren't even top 5 IIRC.
Move along shlub. (srsly how are you only L38, so sad bro 7 days played and you've only been leveling yourself...)
edit: god I might have to, reading through it you told me that you only exploited the wands in pve cus you saw Darwoth doing it so you fiured it was ok LOL then you proceed to tell me it wasn't exploiting, but BARD leveling is exploiting. Make no sense much?
Tombom
11-28-2011, 10:29 PM
Incoming GM sanctioned Lovley character delete. The deal was made right?
Salty
11-28-2011, 10:42 PM
oh, this is why I can't pop slaythe anymore.
Wondered why.
Salty
11-28-2011, 11:01 PM
There is an instant respawn NPC quest in WC too?
Exploit?
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/189004d1321951044-project-1999-red-classic-everquest-pvp-fish-bait-red99-2.png
Tumdumm
11-28-2011, 11:59 PM
duggin scumbags
Tombom
11-29-2011, 12:51 AM
duggin scumbags
I like you
Juugox2
11-29-2011, 01:07 AM
lol are ppl really t his bad?
Shrubwise
11-29-2011, 01:21 AM
WIPE IT CLEAN
Goobles
11-29-2011, 01:28 AM
people exploiting for xp is classic
Back in the day, there was a Ranger who exploited the Kiola Nut quest and inspired me to create a paint image in his honor.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/RiddlN/cry.jpg
Needless to say, he got rolled back and a week suspension.
No less for these fools, imo.
Goobles
11-29-2011, 01:30 AM
My question is, why are the GMs too chicken-shit to do anything like this again when they obv. know this is going on?
ivosik
11-29-2011, 01:32 AM
server seems to be full of cheating exploiting gator haters. WIPE IT CLEAN IMO
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 05:37 AM
since my initial post was deleted the poster is a retard (probably illi/cast mad that everyone outlevelled him) i have never killed the npc in question, and for those who have not sure why it matters since levelling speed is generally limited to the recovery time of your mana bar or group not the respawn of npcs.
karsten
11-29-2011, 05:46 AM
lumie cant be sona i refuse to believe
most important part of this thread
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 05:57 AM
told me that you only exploited the wands in pve cus you saw Darwoth doing it so you fiured it was ok LOL then you proceed to tell me it wasn't exploiting, but BARD leveling is exploiting. Make no sense much?
if so this is annoying, i did not even have enough wands to do anything with until the night before they were nerfed. did i get some levels off of wands? sure did, got just under 3 levels in my low 20s and i make no apologies for it. i mentioned several times during beta in all the waah waah clickers threads that the redwoods best use would be pve not pvp and was called a retard several times "lol using wands to level!?!? idiot!" etc.
in hindsight if i knew i was only going to get 6 or so hours of levelling out of them before they got nerfed i would not have wasted a full day camping them and currently be higher level than i am.
either way wand kiting was no more a sploit than a handful of bards powering their entire afk guild to high 20s/low 30s in 2 days via pulling all of south karana.
since my initial post was deleted the poster is a retard (probably illi/cast mad that everyone outlevelled him) i have never killed the npc in question, and for those who have not sure why it matters since levelling speed is generally limited to the recovery time of your mana bar or group not the respawn of npcs.
Yes I'm mad that everyone finally CAUGHT up to me after not logging into the server for 3 full days.
No, Darwoth, I'm rather wondering how people continue to exploit and there are no consequences. You and Lovely both trolled the GMs for months about these clickies, and you want me to feel sorry for you for camping wands for a measly 12-24hrs which afterwards you went around camping lowbies with for instakills for days - then ontop of it you gained 3 levels you shouldn't have had in your 20s from them.
Let me continue lol'ing as I watch each of you post about how bard leveling is an exploit, and insta gibbing mobs with wands is not... mind bottling bro (mind bottling).
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 07:54 AM
you are a moron, i did not say bard levelling was an exploit i said wands are (were) no more of an exploit than bard levelling. both are easy methods of gaining xp. the less effective, very costly and less cheesy method was nerfed, yours still exists.
and it does not surprise me that killing maybe a half dozen people total with my wands (during the course of my brief levelling block no less) constitutes "camping lowbies for days" to someone as stupid as yourself.
you are a moron, i did not say bard levelling was an exploit i said wands are (were) no more of an exploit than bard levelling. both are easy methods of gaining xp. the less effective, very costly and less cheesy method was nerfed, yours still exists.
and it does not surprise me that killing maybe a half dozen people total with my wands (during the course of my brief levelling block no less) constitutes "camping lowbies for days" to someone as stupid as yourself.
here's a so called thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23132 thats been going on a year about so called bard leveling being an sort of exploit.
yet, wands require server being taken down after one day- which do you think is an exploit bro? Yes, putting yourself into a situation where you are exploiting something like that should be bannable/suspendable.
you're justification for cheating is because another class can level faster than yours, .... thats both of your arguments - ie you're both retards who need suspensions at least
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 08:14 AM
blah blah blah, meanwhile the second you and rigamortiz discovered the benefit of wands (due to lovely, not your own creative thinking) your asses were at the spawn trying to camp them so dont act self righteous with me when you are beyond hypocritical and virtually your entire roster are known hacking droolcups.
your just pissy because a few players on the server figured something out before you did and put the time in to get benefit from it.
wands did not "require" anything being taken down, server gets taken down when the singular person running said server deems something to powerful, dont think ol rogean is going to take the server down to remove bards or restructure the entire class you mouthbreather.
fuark
11-29-2011, 08:16 AM
that's fuckin interesting man
Lol discovered what? Are you some rocket scientist to know what was possible with those wands in their exploitable buggy state? Can you imagine the outcry if someone like me or Kringe used those, rofl insta suspended. The only reason they look the other way is because you and lovely are unknown scrubs so why do they care. You deserve a suspension for exploiting it, simple as that and you're bsing yourself if you say it aint the truth
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 08:27 AM
go bitch about the 6 hour xp bonus some more, im getting bored with your attempts to label everyone in your range an exploiter.
my personal experience with the wands is being 2 or 3 levels lower than i would be had i not spent an entire day camping them and approx 1k plat poorer since i was to low to kill guards that covered the costs. cry on someone elses shoulder.
go bitch about the 6 hour xp bonus some more, im getting bored with your attempts to label everyone in your range an exploiter.
my personal experience with the wands is being 2 or 3 levels lower than i would be had i not spent an entire day camping them and approx 1k plat poorer since i was to low to kill guards that covered the costs. cry on someone elses shoulder.
The only exploiters are you and Lovely, howver if you know of any other wand users who did the same pleae step forward maybe the GMs will have mercy on you.
No one else exploited, so why do you feel that it was ok for you to do so? and please stop using the excuse that it took time to camp those things, or plat you lost from camping them lol - how many instagibs vs players did you have with them? Fuck sake you took down three players to 30% at the same time all of which were higher level than you.
Skillgame amirite bro?
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 08:37 AM
i want to vomit everytime i read something you say as i am reminded that folks like you really do exist.
same way I feel when some scrub from darkenbane who didn't even hit 50 pre-kunark posted for months about resist balance like he knew shit, then trolled GMs into this wand-recharge shit, trying to exploit it for his own gain.
Please move along and accept your suspension
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 08:46 AM
thought i was a no name scrub? i really do have no idea who you are =(
trolled who exactly you dumbass? i said wands should be increased in charge value which is what they should have done instead of making them unsellable, continue bloviating.
and not that it matters but i hit 50 prior to kunark, and the resistance system was the same form launch through velious.
gnomishfirework
11-29-2011, 09:02 AM
Lol. Classic EQ is impossible.
It's a joke. Give the people what they want. Instant 50 and death touch for all classes.
mitic
11-29-2011, 10:58 AM
wondering myself why noone of the server staff is doing anything
quality of the server going down rapidly
Knuckle
11-29-2011, 11:07 AM
should of left wands as is since it was powerful and not an exploit that way we can all insta click wands and take screenshots of how leet we are while spamming it on guards for hours.
SearyxTZ
11-29-2011, 11:10 AM
this true? time 2 take a week break on the bench for these dawgs maybe
wondering myself why noone of the server staff is doing anything
quality of the server going down rapidly
^this
Should get this addressed + guard assist in.
I love the server so far don't get me wrong, but I hope the P1999 quality/rep stays intact here. Staff neglect is like a cancer that spreads very rapidly and the playerbase will lose confidence quickly if they feel like nobody is listening (examples: the last VZTZ, my VZTZ, etc)
karsten
11-29-2011, 11:12 AM
whole lot of talk about exploiting redwood wands
not nearly enough talk about lizard men and their role in 9/11
SearyxTZ
11-29-2011, 11:14 AM
I'd also say to not softball ban the people who were abusing this.
Kick them off the fucking server, permanently. Delete their shit + IP ban it.
This is a situation where anyone doing this knew that they were exploiting. No playing dumb.
I'd also say to not softball ban the people who were abusing this.
Kick them off the fucking server, permanently. Delete their shit + IP ban it.
This is a situation where anyone doing this knew that they were exploiting. No playing dumb.
Nothing is gonna happen man... whistles are now dirty.
Welcome to the new shitbox.
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 12:11 PM
One wizard (oh and a druid) got a few lvls on something they didn't even hafta change but they did. Lay off the Emp, show your praises for bringing us the great pvp box when there was none.
Lulz Sect
11-29-2011, 12:17 PM
It's not like they had any advance notice about the wands or anything... :rolleyes:
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 01:08 PM
whole lot of talk about exploiting redwood wands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k0hObkoimmk
Suspensions confirmed?
Honestly, chill the fuck out and show a little respect. Hate to white knight it for the devs, but I feel strongly on this one bros. I'm grateful some turbo speed monk can't find me in 20 seconds after zone in on the ocean floor in the middle of nowhere with 500 skill in double attack/dual wield.
Harrison
11-29-2011, 01:11 PM
More exploiting and cheating on red, hardly surprised.
billyinorganic
11-29-2011, 01:35 PM
cool so masterkova exploits from level 15-28 by abusing a wand exploit that gets removed as a result and instant spawning a quest mob. big things.
is as big as they get bro.
inimegalg
11-29-2011, 01:37 PM
Holy shit. Buncha clowns in this forum.
It's simple really-- if people want to cheat THEMSELVES of the classic experience, by all means bro, do you.. I think suspensions, etc should be applied to the people who leveled this way. I'm sure there were plenty things that happened on Live like this and they never server wiped and punished the entire population, they applied suspensions/bans, etc
If P1999 doesn't have the staff or want to put forth the effort into finding these clowns then that obviously hurts the legitness of this box..
But cmon people who are we kidding, it's a 12 year old game, if people want to go out of their way to cheat on a 12 year old emu server to have a bigger e-peen on these forums or for some reason think its cool to be the first 50 or what not, then let them be..
They're going to be sitting around doing nothing waiting for people who didn't cheat or hack to level anyway, cept those that didn't then cheat themselves of the experience of classic EQ, which is really what this should all be about.
YendorLootmonkey
11-29-2011, 01:51 PM
But... I thought PVP solved all the crying over pixels?! :(
Prahadigm24
11-29-2011, 01:58 PM
Pathetic...
Don't think a wipe would be appropriate. Just ban all the offenders and give them a fresh start from level 1 please!
:(
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 02:30 PM
No, I don't think that makes sense either nor would a roll back of ALL xp gained in this manner. A partial amount/compromise of the exploited xp would be fair.
Really though, it was one or two people, casters at that. I just wouldn't set the precedent (hint: people take notice to this) that you can milk an exploit until its fixed and not receive, let alone expect, any kind of repercussion (roll back wise) for doing so.
I'd also say to not softball ban the people who were abusing this.
Kick them off the fucking server, permanently. Delete their shit + IP ban it.
This is a situation where anyone doing this knew that they were exploiting. No playing dumb.
This is what I am waiting for before I even start on this server.
Prahadigm24
11-29-2011, 02:53 PM
No, I don't think that makes sense either nor would a roll back of ALL xp gained in this manner. A partial amount/compromise of the exploited xp would be fair.
The server rules clearly state that you're not allowed to exploit bugs. OBVIOUS bugs. Why should they only lose a partial amount of the cheated exp?
Light punishment will only give an incentive to exploit/cheat more.
http://deschenelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/iStock_000011450469XSmall.jpg
Peppers
11-29-2011, 03:00 PM
Mid-day R99 Market Report-11/29/11
R99 stock is down severely since yesterday's R99 Market Report, with the Swedish exploiting issues still raging in R99 news. R99 is known to be a volatile asset, and Elisha, a research analyst with Exploiters.com, commented on this by saying, "Further pockets of short-sellers and safe-haven selling will not support the R99 stock in the coming sessions. Look for the bottom to fall out and prices to plunge on the new revelations."
It is reported that the inverse derivative 99R -which seeks to mimic R99 inversely is up $7.50 since yesterday's close.
Paul Schnow, an analyst with Wakeupgms.com put it succinctly, "Confidence has left the R99 zone, as the insider trading and deals come to light, traders are losing confidence and we are beginning to see the effects as they take flight from the risk. The uncertainty and inaction by the GM's is causing fear to spread in the ranks and we may see a plummet of epic proportions. The stock is down 25 points from it's historic high last week of $72.50. If continued inaction wins the day, expect the bottom to drop out with support not reached until the $10-12 range."
Found this in my e-mail alerts this morning. What's going on? Should i sell? Will there be any justice? What's going to happen to the exploiters and their cronies on the inside who allowed this crime to happen. It's obvious it wasn't just happenstance, but a long protracted effort by those on the inside AND the outside for a crime of this magnitude to be planned and carried out. It had to involve everyone from the top down and I am worried that the worst has not been discovered.
Darwoth
11-29-2011, 03:07 PM
there is nothing "exploiting" about spending time camping items and spending money to use them, manastones and any other like item that allows you to do things more efficiently are an exploit as well under that moron logic.
as for the mob someone was supposedly levelling from i have yet to have explained how that is an exploit either given that it stills takes mana/time to kill said mon and those are the limiting factors to levelling speed not spawn time.
real problem is that you are all just extremely stupid.
juicedsixfo
11-29-2011, 03:08 PM
Remember when everyone was crying about some halflings making some platinum
fiegi
11-29-2011, 03:12 PM
SWEDES always finding ways to ruin our fun boxes
pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 03:13 PM
there is nothing "exploiting" about spending time camping items and spending money to use them, manastones and any other like item that allows you to do things more efficiently are an exploit as well under that moron logic.
as for the mob someone was supposedly levelling from i have yet to have explained how that is an exploit either given that it stills takes mana/time to kill said mon and those are the limiting factors to levelling speed not spawn time.
real problem is that you are all just extremely stupid.
this guy should get a ban just based on this post alone.
Peppers
11-29-2011, 03:13 PM
those are the limiting factors to levelling speed not spawn time.
when your probate hearing is heard, I hope you or your lawyer will have more than that, or the hearing will be short.
Salty
11-29-2011, 03:14 PM
Bunch of jelly kids looks like.
How about you pals gain more knowledge about the game you are playing. There are quests.
I killed an instant spawning mob from 2-5 and 14-20. Come at me.
juicedsixfo
11-29-2011, 03:15 PM
Take their exp and spread the wealth
Salty
11-29-2011, 03:16 PM
Flowers of Happiness, confirmed jelly.
pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 03:17 PM
Bunch of jelly kids looks like.
How about you pals gain more knowledge about the game you are playing.
I killed an instant spawning mob from 2-5 and 15-20. Come at me.
beta wasn't there for you to find all of the exploits to abuse for yourself, it was there for you to report the exploits so they couldn't be abused by anyone.
Prahadigm24
11-29-2011, 03:23 PM
Bunch of jelly kids looks like.
How about you pals gain more knowledge about the game you are playing. There are quests.
I killed an instant spawning mob from 2-5 and 14-20. Come at me.
Looks like the exploiters are so confident they won't be punished that they're even bragging with it.
Nizzarr
11-29-2011, 03:25 PM
Poeple got suspended on blue for using the frog thing to power level.
I expect such things here too!
pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 03:25 PM
Looks like the exploiters are so confident they won't be punished that they're even bragging with it.
As darwoth said, leveling speed is always dictated by mana efficiency and downtime. Who cares about an instant spawning level 3 mob when you can see 10 level 3s virtually anywhere you stand 1 zone over. Who cares about a lvl 15 instant respawn when 2 zones over you can stand in a few different spots and see damn near 20 lvl 15 mobs.
Maybe if you put the same effort into leveling as you do whining on the forums you would be the same level as everyone else.
Arillious
11-29-2011, 03:31 PM
I don't see any exploits in this thread. Sounds like a few people took advantage of a re-doable quest to get some exp and other's took advantage of in game items to level up. Your going to punish people for taking advantage of in game mechanics?
If these are deemed to powerful then they should adjust them. Punishing people for being smart players is lol.
Rust1d?
11-29-2011, 03:34 PM
I do not think that any of these were on live. If they were, I am sure they were found out and fixed. Funny how only a few people knew of the quest and the instant respawning mobs. I do not remember any mobs insta-respawning in live.
Salty
11-29-2011, 03:35 PM
This is why you guys are jelly as fuck.
So far I am not seeing any conclusive evidence that this mob should not exist in its current state with its current spawn mechanic.
P99 staff post.
Not to mention Rogean and Amelinda have been in tells with me about random things while I was slaying Slaythe.
Looks like staff understand that is a legit quest until the community starts crying.
Salty
11-29-2011, 03:36 PM
I don't see any exploits in this thread. Sounds like a few people took advantage of a re-doable quest to get some exp and other's took advantage of in game items to level up. Your going to punish people for taking advantage of in game mechanics?
If these are deemed to powerful then they should adjust them. Punishing people for being smart players is lol.
this
juicedsixfo
11-29-2011, 03:37 PM
Flowers of Happiness, confirmed jelly.
Salty, confirmed "needs to have jokes explained to him often in real life" jelly
Peppers
11-29-2011, 03:42 PM
Lol @ salty scared that his shady shenanigans are going to be punished now, in the name of fairness to everyone.
Peppers
11-29-2011, 03:46 PM
Not to mention Rogean and Amelinda have been in tells with me about random things while I was slaying Slaythe.
Seeing as how they didn't even understand about clickies depsite everyone + santa claus telling them months before server launch, I'm going to confirm that them not noticing or "not knowing" is not a good enough excuse to not punish those caught.
Server integrity > 3 cheaters.
HippoNipple
11-29-2011, 03:47 PM
Salty no one likes you. I can tell from just one of your posts that if you were banned the server would have addition by subtraction and maybe have a couple more people not quit. Maybe what you did is technically okay and not ban worthy but either way you can't blame people for trying to get rid of a fuck tard when they see one.
The couple of people that have done the "exploits" are annoying nerd ragers that play 24/7 and their only goal is to annoy others as they play the game. Everyone would be better off without you and the others but in the long run who gives a shit, gotta deal with fuck tards from time to time.
Glitch
11-29-2011, 03:50 PM
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2di3xie.jpg
Screenshot for evidence
Salty
11-29-2011, 03:56 PM
Salty no one likes you. I can tell from just one of your posts that if you were banned the server would have addition by subtraction and maybe have a couple more people not quit. Maybe what you did is technically okay and not ban worthy but either way you can't blame people for trying to get rid of a fuck tard when they see one.
The couple of people that have done the "exploits" are annoying nerd ragers that play 24/7 and their only goal is to annoy others as they play the game. Everyone would be better off without you and the others but in the long run who gives a shit, gotta deal with fuck tards from time to time.
I don't get upset when people don't like me because I can slack and do absolutely nothing for 3 days, and then become a #1 contender for the championship belt on the 4th day.
I'd like to thank Coach Cast, and Assistant Coach Abacab.
Rust1d?
11-29-2011, 03:59 PM
There is very litte evidence of how this was on live. If it was, I am sure that the devs would have fixed this as well as any high plat payouts on very low lv quests.
Peppers
11-29-2011, 04:06 PM
I am sure that the devs would have fixed this as well as any high plat payouts on very low lv quests.
Have you been reading the same forums i have been reading?
It's obvious which group knows and which group is clueless. Love this server. Just sayin.
HippoNipple
11-29-2011, 04:06 PM
I don't get upset when people don't like me because I can slack and do absolutely nothing for 3 days, and then become a #1 contender for the championship belt on the 4th day.
I'd like to thank Coach Cast, and Assistant Coach Abacab.
trust me no one dislikes you for the time you aren't playing - and what you and abacab do pretending to be WWE wrestlers in your free time is between you two.
Salty
11-29-2011, 04:17 PM
trust me no one dislikes you for the time you aren't playing - and what you and abacab do pretending to be WWE wrestlers in your free time is between you two.
Flowers of Happiness confirmed jelly.
Thought you guys were suppose to be tough and know EQ in-and-out.
Confirmed Noob Guild to the community
HippoNipple
11-29-2011, 04:44 PM
Flowers of Happiness confirmed jelly.
Thought you guys were suppose to be tough and know EQ in-and-out.
Confirmed Noob Guild to the community
You got all of that from the quoted text?
Confirmed nerds that use the word confirmed do not get pussy
Szeth
11-29-2011, 05:01 PM
Confirmed nerds that use the word confirmed do not get pussy
Not sure if srs.
Cwall
11-29-2011, 05:05 PM
i like salty
Salty
11-29-2011, 05:11 PM
You got all of that from the quoted text?
Confirmed nerds that use the word confirmed do not get pussy
Confirmed fake Flowers of Happiness.
Penis Verified soft.
Peppers
11-29-2011, 05:11 PM
I can't stand cheaters. Especially those who are aided by those on the inside.
inimegalg
11-29-2011, 05:25 PM
It takes a special kind of person to cheat on an emu server.
It's like being a normal person cheating to get ahead in the special olympics. Maybe these so called self proclaimed "Master of PVP" er's play a game way past it's prime on an emulator box because they know for all intent and purposes there r no consequences that ive seen for exploiting or taking advantage of game mechanics. God knows if you tried to do that shit on a LIVE game that is being supported by people that are getting paid that it wouldn't fly for a even a day and your shit would get banned faster than you could blink.
So they come on here to stroke their gaming ego and try to ruin the experience for the actual people that are playing this game to relive some fun they had years ago or maybe just enjoy the PvP mechanics and rules that Everquest had that no other MMO has been able to successfully reproduce.
You're not fooling any1-- you're just destroying the value and integrity of the server and your so called 'accomplishments' ingame
juicedsixfo
11-29-2011, 05:34 PM
Confirmed Noob Guild to the community
As the "leader" of a blue guild that spams guildinvites to all in the zone, I find the irony here palpable. You are literally the noobest of the noob, Salt.
Salty
11-29-2011, 06:02 PM
As the "leader" of a blue guild that spams guildinvites to all in the zone, I find the irony here palpable. You are literally the noobest of the noob, Salt.
Weird that there are always people upset at big salty.
Wondering why he does things so huge.
Ain't upset I'm always talked about like some Eqemu Celeb.
I still thank my Coaches.
fiegi
11-29-2011, 06:10 PM
i like salty also
inimegalg
11-29-2011, 06:19 PM
?
fiegi.. i like u guy
uve always been cool in my book
Lulz Sect
11-29-2011, 06:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/D7WBH.jpg
burkemi5
11-29-2011, 06:37 PM
Ain't upset I'm always talked about like some Eqemu Celeb.
I still thank my Coaches.
i hope i can be an eqemu celeb some day
SearyxTZ
11-29-2011, 07:10 PM
Exping off an overlooked broken quest is not how the game is intended to be played and absolutely qualifies as an exploit in my eyes.
At the very least I would check with staff to confirm it, but Salty isn't the type of guy that would do that. Same dude who knew how to crash zones with Macroquest on VZTZ + promised Keegan and I he had some magical contact from Fires of Heaven who would fix and run VZTZ (turned out to be a load of bullshit and an excuse for him to ego trip on the forums).
You're a poser and if you don't get yourself banned then I'll be sure to make you cry in-game. None of you blue server zerglings could ever PvP. The only bright spot to my GM career was watching you lose 3-to-1 odds against Heresy on a daily basis.
Salty
11-29-2011, 07:17 PM
Exping off an overlooked broken quest is not how the game is intended to be played
Bro, a quest NPC spawning another NPC is intended.
Quests are to be quested.
Don't hate the celeb, hate the game.
Thanks to my coaches.
Glitch
11-29-2011, 07:19 PM
I'd say exping off of an overlooked broken quest is pretty creative rather than exploitative. It's not like the mob is particularly easy (it's actually pretty hard for its level, being rogue class and all), and it's not like it somehow prevents you from needing to med between kills. The only advantage to it is the instant respawn trigger (also limited by recovery time) and the misty thicket zone exp.
Oh, and the turn-in exp from the leg
and
and
holy fuck nerf this immediately.
SearyxTZ
11-29-2011, 07:20 PM
If you sit there and can respawn it whenever you want, what's the point of exping anywhere else?
purest
11-29-2011, 07:22 PM
searyx always the voice of reason of this here forum
Salty
11-29-2011, 07:23 PM
If you sit there and can respawn it whenever you want, what's the point of exping anywhere else?
You might get pvp'd.
There are other people there.
You just mad jelly bro, confirmed classic.
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 07:26 PM
My point is they benefitted from something that was then removed so no one else can take the advantage :P.
The benefits were negligible. Stop whining.
Salty
11-29-2011, 07:29 PM
My point is they benefitted from something that was then removed so no one else can take the advantage :P.
confirmed mad @ staff
Envious
11-29-2011, 07:43 PM
This is what I am waiting for before I even start on this server.
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 07:49 PM
confirmed mad @ staff
Confirmed compromise
You still care about having spies in guild, who you invite, forecasting server take over etc? I haven't seen anything in a while.
Salty
11-29-2011, 07:51 PM
I see big Salty makin kids upset that he knows EQ better than them.
Spies come at me, you could be making some real plat but obviously miss the boat.
Confirmed Salty moneybags & Salty xp horder.
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 07:54 PM
Smedy and co gonna put you out, son.
Salty
11-29-2011, 07:57 PM
Bro, you have absolutely no idea about the history of Eqemu Swedes.
You have no idea about Kaahbal and painroot earring.
Swedes will deliver lulz and if you think they don't horde them pixels, you are in for a show.
Nirgon
11-29-2011, 08:28 PM
Oh I think they only have a few good EQers but definitely will rub out the rest of FB.
(I was guilded in eight inches in vztz 2.0 thanks btw)
Bolts
11-29-2011, 08:31 PM
hello everyone
1) quest has been implemented from original release of everquest.
quest link: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=431
2) SAYING A KEY PHRASE TO QUEST NPC SPAWNS THE FROGLOCK
THIS IS NOT EXPLOIT IT IS POOR QUEST STRUCTURE
3) not sure what race of pc involved but another fault is in the faction setting currently on p1999 & red 1999. FACTIONS ARE A HUGE PITA to fix as has been discussed in other threads. You dont need to be very smart to realize factions are fubard on p199 and red 1999. as it stands now prob anyone could walk up to hafling and spwn the froglock in question.
my 2 cents
HippoNipple
11-30-2011, 12:54 AM
Weird that there are always people upset at big salty.
Wondering why he does things so huge.
Ain't upset I'm always talked about like some Eqemu Celeb.
I still thank my Coaches.
Like I mentioned earlier, I just read one message you wrote and decided you were a douce.
As for the people you mentioned the only one I even recognize is aba since he stuck around talking on forums for so long after he was banned and couldn't even play on the blue server - pretty sad bunch but I guess it make since that he coaches you.
Salty
11-30-2011, 12:57 AM
Like I mentioned earlier, I just read one message you wrote and decided you were a douce.
As for the people you mentioned the only one I even recognize is aba since he stuck around talking on forums for so long after he was banned and couldn't even play on the blue server - pretty sad bunch but I guess it make since that he coaches you.
Coach Cast and Coach Abacab run Red99 son.
Recognize, son.
You don't see any bluebie coaches doing it big.
HippoNipple
11-30-2011, 01:20 AM
Coach Cast and Coach Abacab run Red99 son.
Recognize, son.
You don't see any bluebie coaches doing it big.
lol it really is sad that you think you are cool on this game, oh well I guess its good for you to have some self esteem about something.
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