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Nytch
12-06-2011, 02:28 PM
Will Rangers ever see /AutoFire

Will Bards ever see /Melody

i did a search but didnt get any results.

Slave
12-06-2011, 02:31 PM
Bards will never get /melody. Which does suck considering it's the best improvement to bards to ever come out. People aren't 16 anymore with no conception of what playing a bard to the utmost will do to their wrists.

People are 28 now with no conception of what playing a bard to the utmost will do to their wrists.

Autotune
12-06-2011, 02:34 PM
I stopped playing a bard because they don't have melody. I don't regret it.

Ghaniba
12-06-2011, 02:36 PM
I'm playing a bard again and having a great time. I simply alternate heating pads around my wrist during the times I'm not playing. :P

Autotune
12-06-2011, 03:33 PM
i've seen a program that could simulate melody and i've thought about using it. I just don't like having to go to all the trouble of setting it up just to play a class with out destroying my hand/wrist.

Nirgon
12-06-2011, 03:55 PM
How is this amount of key pressing any different from playing something like Quake 3? I was constantly strafing, shooting rockets/switching weps.

QQ:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc0iLHEUO9o/ToJD_8l1P2I/AAAAAAAACqQ/yO9yhYsxkGY/s1600/MyFingersHurtFacebook.png

Autotune
12-06-2011, 04:13 PM
How is this amount of key pressing any different from playing something like Quake 3? I was constantly strafing, shooting rockets/switching weps.

QQ:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc0iLHEUO9o/ToJD_8l1P2I/AAAAAAAACqQ/yO9yhYsxkGY/s1600/MyFingersHurtFacebook.png

no one was talking about fingers
no one was talking about how it is different than you spamming buttons on a FPS.

your post was stupid.

nilbog
12-06-2011, 04:35 PM
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socialist
12-06-2011, 05:10 PM
I never understood this carpal tunnel shit. I hit hotkeys more often playing any melee with an attack skill, or any class in any newer MMORPG. Playing a rogue, you'll often be spamming the backstab key because staring at your hotkey bank all the time to get backstabs off the split second it comes off cooldown usually isn't an option. On a bard, you only have to click something every three seconds, and there's a casting bar right there to tell you when to do it. I've been a gamer for like 10 years, playing just about anything including most major MMORPG titles. Never had any kind of physical problem from hitting keys too often, and EQ bards are one of the least stressful classes as they literally don't have anything that can be spammed without delay.

Xanthias
12-06-2011, 05:26 PM
Will Rangers ever see /AutoFire

Will Bards ever see /Melody

i did a search but didnt get any results.

Doubt rangers would see this as without EQ and AM3, it really wouldn't be a priority.

Mcbard
12-07-2011, 09:54 AM
I never understood this carpal tunnel shit. I hit hotkeys more often playing any melee with an attack skill, or any class in any newer MMORPG. Playing a rogue, you'll often be spamming the backstab key because staring at your hotkey bank all the time to get backstabs off the split second it comes off cooldown usually isn't an option. On a bard, you only have to click something every three seconds, and there's a casting bar right there to tell you when to do it. I've been a gamer for like 10 years, playing just about anything including most major MMORPG titles. Never had any kind of physical problem from hitting keys too often, and EQ bards are one of the least stressful classes as they literally don't have anything that can be spammed without delay.

Neither have I. I'm fairly certain it's a story from live where some dude probably posted about it on forums somewhere and everyone just ran with it and gave it their own twist: "BARD TWISTING CAUSES CARPAL TUNNEL. FACT". In all honesty I click a fuckton less twisting songs than I do playing something lol LoL or starcraft where you are constantly clicking and moving. The only time I've ever experienced any pain from this game was when I was AE kiting and running in a tight circle for 10-15 minutes holding down 'w' while tapping 'd' with my left hand.

tl;dr
1. pretty sure any actual gamer is MORE than ok with the amount of clicking it takes to twist songs every few seconds
2. its probably an old wives tale of the eq community
3. etc

Messianic
12-07-2011, 10:19 AM
Carpal Tunnel isn't really caused by pressing a lot of buttons alone (although if you used to type like you're trying to kill a small animal like me, you can definitely get pain in your hands doing that alone). It's caused by poor hand positioning relative to the keyboard among some other things.

http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/carpal-tunnel/carpal-tunnel-syndrome-topic-overview

Making the same hand movements over and over, especially if the wrist is bent down (your hands lower than your wrists), or making the same wrist movements over and over.

So your wrist positioning is more critical than how many buttons you press.

Autotune
12-07-2011, 10:55 AM
Carpal Tunnel isn't really caused by pressing a lot of buttons alone (although if you used to type like you're trying to kill a small animal like me, you can definitely get pain in your hands doing that alone). It's caused by poor hand positioning relative to the keyboard among some other things.

http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/carpal-tunnel/carpal-tunnel-syndrome-topic-overview



So your wrist positioning is more critical than how many buttons you press.

this pretty much. I played a bard to 16 or so before I quit.

Orruar
12-07-2011, 01:07 PM
I press far more buttons as a shaman than any bard has to. Anyone who quits bard because it's too many buttons to press should probably just play a wizard or cleric.

Slave
12-07-2011, 01:23 PM
Anyone who says that you don't have to press many buttons as a bard or that you press more buttons as another class, you are simply out of your tiny little minds.

I know with 100% certainty that anyone that says this has never, ever, EVER played a bard to a level past 6.

Orruar
12-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Anyone who says that you don't have to press many buttons as a bard or that you press more buttons as another class, you are simply out of your tiny little minds.

I know with 100% certainty that anyone that says this has never, ever, EVER played a bard to a level past 6.

I played a bard to 70. Your certainty measure is inaccurate.

Ghaniba
12-07-2011, 05:08 PM
My wrists ache almost every day. I work with a keyboard and mouse all day. I play a monk and a bard again. Key to avoiding this problem is movement. Slide your keyboard 5" over every 30 mins or so, to the left or to the right. Put something under your keyboard to raise it up. Just keep switching it up and it helps lots. Still, if I sit n' play for 5hrs or so, monk, bard, whatever - I get some aches.

Bottom line:
Suck it up Nancy!

Dave

Diggles
12-07-2011, 05:20 PM
get a mouse with buttons on the side so you can have fucking godly thumbs like me.

I broke a mans thumb in thumb war

oblexsis
12-07-2011, 06:22 PM
get a mouse with buttons on the side so you can have fucking godly thumbs like me.

I broke a mans thumb in thumb war

http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.220156700

Here's a good one for a bard or any other class for that mater . Also its great while playing FPS games like MW3 because you can switch weapons so fast it's great.

Diggles
12-07-2011, 06:39 PM
Yeah, I'm using the original, I actually use it more in LoL and FPS than MMOs, with MMOs it's cooldowns on my mouse and everything else on my gamepad.

oblexsis
12-07-2011, 07:33 PM
I have the original too , just thought i would post the nicer one . I also have a razer mamba ( the wired / wireless one ) another great mouse . Personally i will only buy razer products from now on . I also love my Black widow ultimate keyboard because its mechanical and has the good old clickity clack sounds that remind of us days lost .

Slave
12-07-2011, 09:19 PM
I played a bard to 70. Your certainty measure is inaccurate.

By the time level 70 even existed, EQ was already pussified into oblivion.

Orruar
12-07-2011, 10:08 PM
By the time level 70 even existed, EQ was already pussified into oblivion.

I didn't say I started a bard when the level cap was 70. Thanks for playing.

Diggles
12-07-2011, 10:20 PM
I played a bard to 70. Your certainty measure is inaccurate.

you played a bard when /melody was in, then.

Slave
12-07-2011, 10:28 PM
you played a bard when /melody was in, then.

He's already getting mad, I wouldn't try to reason with him any further.

Mcbard
12-08-2011, 11:31 AM
Pretty sure melody has never been on this server, I'm 60, and you're wrong.

Quit trolling.

You're wrong.

oblexsis
12-08-2011, 12:33 PM
Playing a bard has ruined my hands for the rest of my life.

I now pleasure myself with my feet.

Skills

Orruar
12-08-2011, 03:17 PM
you played a bard when /melody was in, then.

12 minutes prior to this post, I responded with:

I didn't say I started a bard when the level cap was 70. Thanks for playing.

You should learn to read the entire thread before responding, as it can save you some embarrassment.

All you ex bards that quit because you couldn't hack it need to quit whining. Not everyone is as bad at this game as you. If playing bard is pressing too many buttons for you, you're probably going to play any other class poorly, except two or three that don't require much in the way of button pressing.

Orruar
12-08-2011, 03:19 PM
He's already getting mad, I wouldn't try to reason with him any further.

Projecting much, Mr. "100% certainty"? I know I shattered your world by giving a direct counterexample to your beliefs, but you'll recover.

Messianic
12-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Playing a bard has ruined my hands for the rest of my life.

I now pleasure myself with my feet.

That's wrinkling my brain.