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xshayla701
12-16-2011, 05:55 PM
P99 message board communities have the power to suck people in and create an internet world of cliques and power-seekers, a world where people never have to prove what they are saying is true , a world where people can afford to be "larger than life" because they do not have to worry about ever physically meeting the majority of people with whom they are forming "online relationships".

The following are real-life examples of the negative power of internet message boards, both from P99 message boards:

One administrator of a P99 message board wrote me and told me he had realized that he had spent far too much time on the computer--with the computer being on around the clock. He ended up losing real-life friends in this process.

Another administrator of a P99 message board sent me an email saying she had been crying for days because of the turmoil and stress caused from the "virtual actions" of the people on the message board. This administrator was being "forced" into making decisions about her life by the members of this board.

These are just two examples of people in message board administration. For these two, there are hundreds more who are members of boards who more than likely suffer from Pathological Internet Use.

xshayla701
12-16-2011, 05:56 PM
Ask yourself the following questions, which are the official criteria of Addictive Internet Behavior (Adapted from the DSM-IV, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fourth Edition)

Do you:

1) feel preoccupied with the Internet (i.e., thinking about the Internet when offline)?
2) feel a need to use the Internet with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve satisfaction?
3) have an inability to control your Internet use?
4) feel restless or irritable when attempting to cut down to stop Internet use?
5) use the Internet as a way of escaping from problems or of relieving a poor mood (i.e., feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety or depression)?
6) lie to family members or friends to conceal the extent of involvement with the Internet?
7) jeopardize or risk the loss of significant relationship, job, educational or career opportunity because of the Internet?
8) after spending an excessive amount of money on online fees, often return another day?
9) go through withdrawal when offline (e.g., increased depression, anxiety, etc.)?
10) stay online longer than originally intended?
Individuals who have met four or more of the criteria over the past 12 month period, would be classified as dependent.

Peatree
12-16-2011, 06:01 PM
I'm only here to look at Autotune's avatar.

Autotune
12-16-2011, 06:02 PM
I'm only here to look at Autotune's avatar.

wish granted.

Jon Lemon
12-16-2011, 06:19 PM
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Truth
12-17-2011, 01:01 AM
i just fap to ppl's avatars too

visage
12-17-2011, 07:54 AM
Internet ruining peoples lives like since the day it was born. The internet is once again your friend!

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 03:56 PM
Internet ruining peoples lives like since the day it was born. The internet is once again your friend!

It is with growing anxiety we notice that, for many, involvement in P99 message boards leads to mild or severe addiction. It is important to learn about P99 if you are a P99 player, however, it is vitally important to realize that P99 message boards are not the place in which to gain reliable information. They are an online community, not a source of reliable information. (see San Diego State University's "Evaluating Sources" for more information)

PureLo
12-17-2011, 04:03 PM
Wait did i miss something? Did Akyra suddenly become an intellectual adult instead of a troll feeder?

stormlord
12-17-2011, 04:40 PM
Obama is president. But don't believe it. Don't believe anything you hear on the internet.

Tiggles
12-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Ask yourself the following questions, which are the official criteria of Addictive Internet Behavior (Adapted from the DSM-IV, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fourth Edition)

Do you:

1) feel preoccupied with the Internet (i.e., thinking about the Internet when offline)?
2) feel a need to use the Internet with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve satisfaction?
3) have an inability to control your Internet use?
4) feel restless or irritable when attempting to cut down to stop Internet use?
5) use the Internet as a way of escaping from problems or of relieving a poor mood (i.e., feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety or depression)?
6) lie to family members or friends to conceal the extent of involvement with the Internet?
7) jeopardize or risk the loss of significant relationship, job, educational or career opportunity because of the Internet?
8) after spending an excessive amount of money on online fees, often return another day?
9) go through withdrawal when offline (e.g., increased depression, anxiety, etc.)?
10) stay online longer than originally intended?
Individuals who have met four or more of the criteria over the past 12 month period, would be classified as dependent.

1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 05:04 PM
Wait did i miss something? Did Akyra suddenly become an intellectual adult instead of a troll feeder?

How many boards have members that spend most of their night hours (and in many cases, daylight hours as well) online, rather than taking care of their family or taking part in real society and real interaction with physical human beings? How many message boards have weekly or monthly soap-opera-like dramas going on that people are so embroiled with, that they have to take time away from people and things in their real life?

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:10 PM
This man predicted the emergence of "virtual" meeting places:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_8-pjuctM&list=FLi5JL0AloazPnH1HUIfN_hg&index=48&feature=plpp_video

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:10 PM
If you want people to get outdoors so much, bring the cost of gasoline down to something like 70 cents per gallon.

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:12 PM
Because right now it's a whole lot cheaper (and timely) to use cellphones and laptops and other portables for personal communications with family and friends.

And some people don't have a choice. They work all day sitting at a keyboard doing the same ol' tasks for a company that views them as little more than a number.

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:14 PM
This man predicted the emergence of "virtual" meeting places:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_8-pjuctM&list=FLi5JL0AloazPnH1HUIfN_hg&index=48&feature=plpp_video
Go to 3:48 for the meat.

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:20 PM
Go to 3:48 for the meat.
Somebody pointed to his comments about using monkeys as wrong. But it's not.

Go here to find out he was right:
http://www.monkeyhelpers.org/

If this video doesn't open your eyes a bit then they're closed.

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:24 PM
His comments about dolphins may have been inspired by this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dolphin

stormlord
12-17-2011, 05:29 PM
His comments about AI might be accurate as well. Any brief review of the "internet" will yield a vast array of information about the changing AI landscape.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ibm-develop--human-brain--computer-chip.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/jeopardy-watson-ibm-skynet-matrix,12199.html
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/05/even-robots-can-be-heroes.html?ref=hp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oozFn2d45tg

Tiggles
12-17-2011, 05:32 PM
Five posts in a row makes you an internet addict

Tumdumm
12-17-2011, 05:47 PM
everytime u get banned its an intervention for your addictive internet behavior addiction

u never change and it has really hurt me

Tiggles
12-17-2011, 05:49 PM
You know you can't just "adapt" stuff from the DSM-IV-Tr right? Addictive Internet Behavior is not a diagnosis from the DSM, therefore any of the symptoms you just listed are completely false.

I guess you could label this under substance addiction but there's nothing called Addictive Internet Behavior. dumb bitch.

Leave her alone she took a psych class once and was "almost raped "multiple times

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 05:50 PM
You know you can't just "adapt" stuff from the DSM-IV-Tr right? Addictive Internet Behavior is not a diagnosis from the DSM, therefore any of the symptoms you just listed are completely false.

I guess you could label this under substance addiction but there's nothing called Addictive Internet Behavior. dumb bitch.

The internet addiction course (http://www.virtualcs.com/nmhi/lesson6_1.html) is approved as a continuining education credit for the APA, Board of Behavioral Sciences, and the Board of Registered Nursing.

Message boards are communities of people who usually share a common interest. In this case, the common interest is Everquest. There are many dangers inherent with trusting message boards and/or people who post on these boards.

For example, there are many poopsockers and mouthbreathers who have spent years perfecting their "online persona" via message boards to the point that no one questions them. Because they do not have to prove anything about their character, because it is all in how they communicate with words only, many people are duped by them, and unknowingly support them in their unethical treatment of fellow players. Some of these people even pose as "guild leaders" with altruistic motives.

Take the test. (http://www.netaddiction.com/index.php?option=com_bfquiz&view=onepage&catid=46&Itemid=106)

Ihealyou
12-17-2011, 05:54 PM
I heard tiggles bought his forum account. Classic addictive behavoir

Diggles
12-17-2011, 06:05 PM
someone bought tiggles account, and then demanded a refund after I sold him out.

get with the times, fatty.

Slathar
12-17-2011, 06:08 PM
white female undergrad psych student enlightens internet forum for 13 year old game

news at 10

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 07:29 PM
white female undergrad psych student enlightens internet forum for 13 year old game

news at 10

The internet is a wonderful tool, but the internet has a dark side for everquest enthusiasts. This dark side is nowhere more blatantly obvious than in perusing the multitudes of online "Message Boards" relating to everquest.

How many boards have members that spend most of their night hours (and in many cases, daylight hours as well) online, rather than taking care of their family or taking part in real society and real interaction with physical human beings? How many message boards have weekly or monthly soap-opera-like dramas going on that people are so embroiled with, that they have to take time away from people and things in their real life?

Would you say you fall into this category of board users, Slathar?

Hasbinbad
12-17-2011, 07:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/553aQ.jpg

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 07:49 PM
Ok, what does a stupid course have to do with anything regarding the DSM-IV-TR? There's courses that count as continuing education for the Board of Nursing on fucking acupuncture.

You're one stupid bitch dog. You're like the stupid blonde bitch on Community whose a psychology major.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?Volume=165&page=306&journalID=13

Possible inclusion for internet addiction in DSM-V :p

ANYWAYS, deciding to use a message board as your primary resource for everquest information can be compared to deciding to use the high school cafeteria community as a primary resource for information about sex - sure, there are a lot of stories, and even a few tidbits of actual fact, but it is not truly reliable.

Slathar
12-17-2011, 07:53 PM
start practicing your barista skills now

Uthgaard
12-17-2011, 08:54 PM
When you quote scientific journals and article, you find them as close to the current date as possible. What you just cited is almost completely irrelevant.

LOL @ scientific. Psychology is statistical guesswork even when done right, that barely approaches a science.

PureLo
12-17-2011, 09:00 PM
back on topic... Uthgaard you need to come back for atleast a day and unleash a GM event.

Hailto
12-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Every Uthgaard post i read makes me like him more

Kimmie
12-17-2011, 09:14 PM
You cited a journel article from March 1st 2008 about the possible inclusion of this made up diagnosis into the DSM-IV-TR.

You do know that was almost 4 years ago right?

When you quote scientific journals and article, you find them as close to the current date as possible. What you just cited is almost completely irrelevant.

First line of the article is "Internet addiction appears to be a common disorder that merits inclusion in DSM-V. "
V. goog job reading

And 4 years in the course of human psychology really ain't that gd long...Maybe if this were an article on technological advancements or something you'd have a point, but people constantly go back to aged studies in psych, bb....

xshayla701
12-17-2011, 09:15 PM
You cited a journel article from March 1st 2008 about the possible inclusion of this made up diagnosis into the DSM-IV-TR.

You do know that was almost 4 years ago right?

When you quote scientific journals and article, you find them as close to the current date as possible. What you just cited is almost completely irrelevant.

Reread the first sentence of the article, b. It says inclusion into the DSM-V. Also, the DSM-IV-TR was published in 2000 and the article was written in 2008. So ya, basically your entire quote is wrong. But I'm probably still a dumb bitch.

Back on topic, many users of these message boards may even unwittingly dispense false and even harmful information. There is no way to "fact check" every post on a message board.

Please use message boards with caution and care, if at all!

Uthgaard
12-17-2011, 09:20 PM
back on topic... Uthgaard you need to come back for atleast a day and unleash a GM event.

What kind of event?

Diggles
12-17-2011, 09:28 PM
What kind of event?

Spawn a bunch of Hasbinbad clones for Occupy Freeport then DT them all.

Diggles
12-17-2011, 09:29 PM
And all they drop is foraged items

Uthgaard
12-17-2011, 09:42 PM
I like it. That's material I could run with.

Tumdumm
12-17-2011, 09:46 PM
There is no way to "fact check" every post on a message board.

this is one of the 95,462 false or otherwise misleading statements in RnF alone

pickled_heretic
12-18-2011, 10:11 PM
statistical guesswork

a crude way of saying "Induction" - that is the definition of Science.

Slave
12-18-2011, 10:18 PM
this is one of the 95,462 false or otherwise misleading statements in RnF alone

12 out of 13 statistics are made up.

Uthgaard
12-18-2011, 11:24 PM
Induction: any form of reasoning in which the conclusion, though supported by the premises, does not follow from them necessarily.

That's not the definition of science. That's the definition of an "educated guess" which may or may not be right, like I said. If you're going to correct someone, it helps if you're correct.

Truth
12-18-2011, 11:34 PM
whenever some1 try to troll me I am reminded of jay and silent bob where they read ppl talkin shit on the internet then find them and beat them up

i am an internet addict with a comp sci degree BUT you are all nerds posting on EQ forums

pickled_heretic
12-18-2011, 11:43 PM
Induction: any form of reasoning in which the conclusion, though supported by the premises, does not follow from them necessarily.

That's not the definition of science. That's the definition of an "educated guess" which may or may not be right, like I said. If you're going to correct someone, it helps if you're correct.

time to do some learning, courtesy of google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=inductive+method)

pickled_heretic
12-18-2011, 11:47 PM
the scientific method and inductive method are synonyms. must be one huge fucking coincidence, lol.

Velion
12-18-2011, 11:50 PM
What kind of event?

A "ban Richgirl" event. You ban the account and then hide all of the plat/loot on various mobs in the old world.

Uthgaard
12-19-2011, 12:15 AM
the scientific method and inductive method are synonyms. must be one huge fucking coincidence, lol.

I've applied the scientific method to development. That doesn't make everquest a science. You can barely wield a dictionary, don't even attempt to scuffle with me on comprehension. The best you can hope for is to be wrong in a loud voice.

pickled_heretic
12-19-2011, 12:31 AM
I've applied the scientific method to development. That doesn't make everquest a science. You can barely wield a dictionary, don't even attempt to scuffle with me on comprehension. The best you can hope for is to be wrong in a loud voice.

what are you even talking about now? does anyone know but you?