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conFIGured
12-17-2011, 06:05 PM
Does anybody out there know anything about how much xp loss is supposed to occur when you die by self inflicted ways? HT, Lich, Manastone, etc etc..... At lvl 19 I lost 1 yellow and 2 blue bubbles worth of xp by HT myself. I do not lose that much vs NPC or PVP. Is it supposed to be more bc of pvp server? Did it factor in xp loss from suicide + npc + pvp death?

Darwoth
12-17-2011, 06:06 PM
the handful of times i fell off a cliff etc and dirtnapped i remember it being the same as a pve death but not more, think i killed myself once or twice by nuking instead of healing and it being the same.

gloinz
12-17-2011, 06:07 PM
on sullon zek there was no xp loss from falling off cliff and such, the only server with xp loss

there should definately be xp loss when you kill yourself, and the way its currently set sounds fine considering how benefical it is to kill yourself rather than die to someone else (no killshot = death didnt happen)

conFIGured
12-17-2011, 06:09 PM
on sullon zek there was no xp loss from falling off cliff and such, the only server with xp loss

there should definately be xp loss when you kill yourself, and the way its currently set sounds fine considering how benefical it is to kill yourself rather than die to someone else (no killshot = death didnt happen)

And i completely understand it being that way, a safety measure to keep people from suiciding to save from pvp death... but... IS IT that way or NOT is the question.

gloinz
12-17-2011, 06:32 PM
And i completely understand it being that way, a safety measure to keep people from suiciding to save from pvp death... but... IS IT that way or NOT is the question.

it is that way if this server was based on sullon zek ruleset but its not because i cant kill someone 20 levels lower

xp loss on death wasnt on any of the other pvp servers so...

Slave
12-17-2011, 06:32 PM
Does anybody out there know anything about how much xp loss is supposed to occur when you die by self inflicted ways? HT, Lich, Manastone, etc etc..... At lvl 19 I lost 1 yellow and 2 blue bubbles worth of xp by HT myself. I do not lose that much vs NPC or PVP. Is it supposed to be more bc of pvp server? Did it factor in xp loss from suicide + npc + pvp death?

A self-inflicted exp death should probably only give you Vs.-mob exp loss. 1.2 yellows seems very extreme, and it is more than twice a normal exp death.

Slave
12-17-2011, 06:33 PM
it is that way if this server was based on sullon zek ruleset but its not because i cant kill someone 20 levels lower

Did you incur exp death on Sullon Zek if the person was out of 5 level range? I don't remember that.

gloinz
12-17-2011, 06:35 PM
Did you incur exp death on Sullon Zek if the person was out of 5 level range? I don't remember that.

no

Slave
12-17-2011, 06:53 PM
no

It was a nice consolation prize for lower level people growing up; I remember them always swarming up and attacking red invaders.

gloinz
12-17-2011, 07:04 PM
It was a nice consolation prize for lower level people growing up; I remember them always swarming up and attacking red invaders.

yep lol every newt in highkeep would die valiently

conFIGured
12-17-2011, 07:57 PM
I miss sullon zek.

Slave
12-17-2011, 08:04 PM
I miss Sullon Zek.

Pretty much the best ruleset ever concieved for an MMO. Too bad it didn't have item loot.

Srs Not Ames
12-17-2011, 08:21 PM
hahah : /

xblade724
12-17-2011, 08:21 PM
Unfortunately, I don't believe you lost exp when you killed yourself 100%

I used to take massive hp gear and before i died, i would just take it off and I would die from a suicide, no exp loss or loot. Such as a +55 hp ring; just take it off and you die.. BUT it's hard to master, so it really doesnt take away much from the game

Slave
12-17-2011, 08:29 PM
Unfortunately, I don't believe you lost exp when you killed yourself 100%

I used to take massive hp gear and before i died, i would just take it off and I would die from a suicide, no exp loss or loot. Such as a +55 hp ring; just take it off and you die.. BUT it's hard to master, so it really doesnt take away much from the game

It did tend to trivialize travel. But you're right, suicides gave 0% exp loss on at least Sullon Zek and I strongly suspect Rallos as well, because people would pull their rings constantly to escape PvP death.

LOL, here, people would lose far more exp doing this than just taking it like a man.

PhantomRogue
12-17-2011, 09:00 PM
I miss sullon zek.

xblade724
12-17-2011, 09:09 PM
i'm from RZ and can confirm 0% loss

Truth
12-17-2011, 11:45 PM
I wanted to bring this up before but was too lazy to dig through patch notes or find posts on rando forums from y2k

so until you do that stfu

Zigfreed
12-18-2011, 05:16 AM
If death by environment is really at a far greater penalty than death by mob (or even if it's different at all) then duh, that's silly/wrong. Unless.. someone can PROVE it was that way! Oh wait then it's still dumb, sorry.

Doors
12-18-2011, 05:28 AM
Theres not supposed to be XP loss on suicide deaths according to an old RZ article I found. I just drowned myself on red99 and lost 10% of a level.

Zigfreed
12-18-2011, 05:52 AM
At least on blue servers there definitely was xp loss due to any environmental death you could engineer. /shrug /anecdotebattle

xblade724
12-18-2011, 06:08 AM
Theres not supposed to be XP loss on suicide deaths according to an old RZ article I found. I just drowned myself on red99 and lost 10% of a level.

Environmental deaths resulted in no exp loss from RZ. Pulling off ring, falling off cliff, drowning .....

Anyone remember if you lost exp from a dot? I thought there was a chance pain and suffering could strike you and you'd lose exp, and if missed, you didnt lose exp ? Could be wrong about the dot part

Smedy
12-18-2011, 03:44 PM
Does anybody out there know anything about how much xp loss is supposed to occur when you die by self inflicted ways? HT, Lich, Manastone, etc etc..... At lvl 19 I lost 1 yellow and 2 blue bubbles worth of xp by HT myself. I do not lose that much vs NPC or PVP. Is it supposed to be more bc of pvp server? Did it factor in xp loss from suicide + npc + pvp death?

Configured confirmed Eskay, worst sk on the box, killed himself accidentally with harm touch while exping.

His solution to the issue was to completely remove harm touch from his hotkey bar instead of just getting better at not pushing random buttons like a sausage fingered african miner.

Keep truckin son, jesus comin for ya

Slave
12-18-2011, 03:50 PM
like a sausage fingered african miner.

Like a what? These are some really strange issues you are evincing.

Keep truckin son, jesus comin for ya

How to run a guild on R99: be as bizarrely obtuse as humanly possible.

Just rename it P99chan and call it a day.

conFIGured
12-19-2011, 01:03 PM
Configured confirmed Eskay, worst sk on the box, killed himself accidentally with harm touch while exping.

His solution to the issue was to completely remove harm touch from his hotkey bar instead of just getting better at not pushing random buttons like a sausage fingered african miner.

Keep truckin son, jesus comin for ya

Lol Smedy, i did say in my 1st post that i HT myself.

and Thanks for making me known, I wasnt allowed todo it myself :)