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Dreads
01-19-2012, 12:46 PM
Thought about this after seeing someone play this game in first person and just could not fathom why people play in first person. Not that its bad, just wanted to see what people use and the reason why

I'm always third person and never seen a reason why to be first person ever.
As a monk with third person I feel like I can use the camera angles to help with pulling and see around corners. Never had a reason to use first person for anything besides being drunk and forced to use it haha.

I'd love to hear from people who played first person and reasons why you do.

falkun
01-19-2012, 12:53 PM
I change up camera angles like a madman:

I pull in 1st and 3rd person. I need 3rd person views to see around corners for lull and I need 1st person views to keep the camera from going nuts as I turn corners in dungeons.

I usually melee (in group) in "behind the back" 3rd person, but I will swap up to "random locked side view" 3rd person depending on what view I need to be able to watch my character swing his weapons and where mobs are positioned for refreshing CC.

I do not like meleeing in first person because my character bobs his head with every swing and I do not know how or if it is possible to disable that "feature".

Basically, I am mostly in 3rd person, behind the back view, but I occasionally use random side 3rd person for targeting and aesthetic reasons. I will use 1st person view in tight quarters to keep the camera from going crazy.

Deadmantis
01-19-2012, 01:00 PM
Basically, I am mostly in 3rd person, behind the back view, but I occasionally use random side 3rd person for targeting and aesthetic reasons. I will use 1st person view in tight quarters to keep the camera from going crazy.

Pretty much the same as this

Raavak
01-19-2012, 01:21 PM
I do first person, because I always have. When FD pulling (on live when I was a sk) I'd use F9 to look around, but back to 1st person before I stood up. Is 1st person default? I probably didnt learn how to change views back in 1999 and just got hooked.

Played a bunch of stuff thats 3rd person (everything else?), but still go back to 1st in EQ. Just call it habit I guess.

[Edit] Oh, and I switch to 3rd person when quad kiting to see if the group is tight, but switch right back.

eqravenprince
01-19-2012, 01:43 PM
Wow, I'm surprised most people play in third person. I've tried it, but I simply have a hard time running around in it, especially dungeons. Another thing is I just feel more immersed in first person. Sounds silly I know.

Bruman
01-19-2012, 01:47 PM
I switch around a lot, but prefer first person. A lot of EQ is designed to be first-person, especially in towns and crawling certain areas of dungeons. Raids, where you have a lot more people, are typically more designed to be more third person - hence why they're much larger areas.

As a monk, I usually need to be first person to duck into hallways and tunnels and doors or whatever, then use third person to see around corners for splitting casters, checking what's coming, etc.

Newer MMOs design exclusively for the third person, and that's why you so many things are sized wrong. WoW is the prime example - everything there is huge. Steps are like half your toon's height. That's so it looks better when you're zoomed out and far away.

EQ is scaled to actually match your toon, and looks best when in first person (again, until you start getting into some larger raid zones later in the game, but I still think they look good in first person).

Grozmok
01-19-2012, 01:59 PM
Other games have made me way too used to mouse look, which you can't do in EQ unless you switch to that camera mode via F9. That's just a pain in the ass.

I hate it, but I accept it since I was used to playing the game that way for many years.

maahes
01-19-2012, 02:53 PM
If there is danger about always 3rd person. But there is something about being in 1st person that pulls me into the "world" a little bit more.

DoucLangur
01-19-2012, 03:07 PM
Mostly first person, and third person for pull situations or safer medding to see if something comes up from behind.
Reason for first person: Movement is intuitive, mouselook, strafing (afaik) only works in first person, because the other perspectives have no keybinds for it.

Also, I am used to being quite good at navigating around ego-shooter-levels in first person, so I feel it gives me a bit of an edge in messy add-situations.

And finally - I feel more immersed indeed.

Couple of reasons that add up, I suppose :)

Slozem

Erazmus
01-19-2012, 03:23 PM
If there is danger about always 3rd person. But there is something about being in 1st person that pulls me into the "world" a little bit more.

Agreed. It's interesting though. EQ is the only MMO I've played first person.

mwatt
01-19-2012, 06:02 PM
First person is more immersive. It's as simple as that. So that is my default mode. However, there are times and situations where you need to see all around you. I degrade to third person at those times.

Phallax
01-19-2012, 06:09 PM
First person when I play melee, Third when I play casters...

If I play a tank however I do use 3rd a lot so I can see my surroundings more and know whats all in the camp. And as a caster Ill switch to 1st when swimming or running thru tight quarters.

But mostly 3rd

Pyrocat
01-19-2012, 08:25 PM
On live when I played a rogue it was almost entirely first person. On P99 as a shaman I play almost entirely in third (scroll out with mouse wheel). I zoom in to first person to click stuff usually, or when running through an area with enclosed walls/low ceilings.

doacleric
01-20-2012, 02:03 AM
First person 100% of the time. I can't even imagine playing EQ in 3rd person.

Popt
01-20-2012, 03:14 AM
While playing a caster, always 1st person unless I need to look around a corner or look around. While playing a melee, I find myself playing in 3rd person behind the back unless in a closed in space.

relapsee69
01-20-2012, 03:25 AM
3rd person all day everyday

Twoberries
01-20-2012, 04:59 AM
If only I had a mouse wheel 12 years ago.

Faisca
01-20-2012, 11:18 AM
I play in 3rd person all the time, only switching on specific situations like when I’m in small rooms.

I feel this view gives me a better look of my surroundings most of the time. In 1st person view you can’t even see who’s sitting right next to you.

However, having played in 1st person view the whole time back in the day, I reckon this is the most immersive playing style.

Flunklesnarkin
01-20-2012, 11:38 AM
i play mostly first person.. but if i need to see behind me or w/e


i hit alt T... (not sure if its classic) brings up a title screen that rotates around you.


pretty sure its not classic but its in game so whatev's ;p

Farrakhan
01-20-2012, 04:29 PM
Is there a way to turn off inspect when you hit the right click button? When I'm in third person, I always hit myself when I try to right click the mob to get a con reading. It opens up my inventory, which is annoying.

joppykid
01-20-2012, 04:36 PM
Woops I clicked first person by accident when I meant always 3rd. I don't know how people play first person only. I can't stand not being able to see all around me in case of a mob coming. Especially being a monk.

eqravenprince
01-20-2012, 04:50 PM
Woops I clicked first person by accident when I meant always 3rd. I don't know how people play first person only. I can't stand not being able to see all around me in case of a mob coming. Especially being a monk.

I don't know how you maneuver around a dungeon in third person. I've tried, and just run into walls and get turned around.

FoxxHound
01-20-2012, 04:51 PM
On blue. First always.
Red third always.
DAoC > EQ. Always 3rd~

Nirgon
01-20-2012, 05:05 PM
First unless quadding

joppykid
01-20-2012, 06:27 PM
I don't know how you maneuver around a dungeon in third person. I've tried, and just run into walls and get turned around.

Just used to it I guess, I will under certain circumstances switch to 1st person but rarely. Main time i use it in combat is when the target has a small hit box and it is being fear kited.

Phallax
01-20-2012, 08:55 PM
Is there a way to turn off inspect when you hit the right click button? When I'm in third person, I always hit myself when I try to right click the mob to get a con reading. It opens up my inventory, which is annoying.

/toggleinspect off

Grozmok
01-20-2012, 09:23 PM
Is there a way to turn off that retarded chat message you get when you target something?

Farrakhan
01-21-2012, 04:37 PM
/toggleinspect off

Thank you!!!

Kika Maslyaka
01-21-2012, 05:56 PM
Back in the old days when I played EQ (1999-2004) I always played in 1st person view.
Only tried 3rd when wanted to take a screenshot of something.

Playing EQ2 and WoW for a short time, forced me to use 3rd person view due to much higher intensity of danger in surrounding area - constantly roaming mobs, very fast re-spawn rates etc. Plus, its practically impossible to play WoW in 1st person for me - when I do, I feel that my view of my surrounding area got somehow reduced

Going back to EQ1 I have tried hard to play it as I did EQ2 AND WoW, but unfortunately EQ1 3rd view camera is heavily obsolete, and no where as fluid and easy to controled as EQ2 or WoW camera is.

Elizabethe
01-21-2012, 07:06 PM
I had no idea there was a 3rd person option. but i first played EQmac and my friend says there is no 3rd person view. i will probably keep playing in 1st. it seems easier.

cmdrrickhunter
01-21-2012, 08:55 PM
3rd person ALL the time.

I love the idea of EQ in first person, but I'm a mouse look person, and I haven't found a mouse-look setting that gets my head-turning rate fast enough (its like an order of magnitude too slow for me!). Mouse sensitivty is maxed, its just not enough by a longshot!

Dravingar
01-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Is there a way to turn off that retarded chat message you get when you target something?

Alt + O and then click on Toggle click shows help button on the first page.

Grozmok
01-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Alt + O and then click on Toggle click shows help button on the first page.

YES!

PM me your PayPal, you just earned yourself $1.

:eek:

bulbousaur
01-23-2012, 02:33 PM
NT