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Palemoon
02-15-2012, 03:00 PM
148 people voted yes for an XP increase. Who are these select "trolls" you speak of? Seems like you are the one trolling us, Bro.

On the progression server, when they put classic style corpse runs to a
"player vote" the players also voted for no corpse runs.

Most players will always take the ez way out and choose the path of least resistance.

Slug
02-15-2012, 03:04 PM
They shoud go play EQlive then, I hear the recruit-a-friend program they have has a permanent 200 percent xp bonus or some such. Try it out.

This is supposed to be 1999 EQ.

Completely irrelevant. If 75% of the server wants an experience increase, and you do not, why don't you create your own classic EQ emu. It doesn't matter what 'this is supposed to be' - it matters what it is. If making a change in the interest of 75% of the server happens, you need to go find another server to commit 40 hours a week to pixels.

Hovis
02-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Completely irrelevant. If 75% of the server wants an experience increase, and you do not, why don't you create your own classic EQ emu. It doesn't matter what 'this is supposed to be' - it matters what it is. If making a change in the interest of 75% of the server happens, you need to go find another server to commit 40 hours a week to pixels.

couldn't of put it better myself.

heartbrand
02-15-2012, 03:11 PM
Completely irrelevant. If 75% of the server wants an experience increase, and you do not, why don't you create your own classic EQ emu. It doesn't matter what 'this is supposed to be' - it matters what it is. If making a change in the interest of 75% of the server happens, you need to go find another server to commit 40 hours a week to pixels.

heartbrand
02-15-2012, 03:12 PM
Not to mention, as it has been repeated numerous times, exp loss on PVP without exp bonus is NOT CLASSIC.

steakshop
02-15-2012, 03:33 PM
bkab you talk a big game for someone who plays a clowndog pvp class

play something that requires skill then you can say something about pvp and leveling

a shaman can solo easily , granted you will be close to worthless later , point remains you are a scrub

Nirgon
02-15-2012, 03:35 PM
On the progression server, when they put classic style corpse runs to a
"player vote" the players also voted for no corpse runs.

Most players will always take the ez way out and choose the path of least resistance.

I completely agree with you and was vehement in my defense of not putting it in.

However, I talk to people, I read the boards. The population is either all mostly at the top or just nearly barren at low lvls.

They came here to PvP, don't find it and leave. Why are they on a PvP server with no PvP if they already (likely) have a character on blue where there is more content?

Srs Not Ames
02-15-2012, 03:39 PM
bkab you talk a big game for someone who plays a clowndog pvp class

play something that requires skill then you can say something about pvp and leveling

a shaman can solo easily , granted you will be close to worthless later , point remains you are a scrub

scrub woodelf warrior

heartbrand
02-15-2012, 03:41 PM
Are we really comparing an EXP Boost to corpse runs? Rly?

Slug
02-15-2012, 03:45 PM
bkab you talk a big game for someone who plays a clowndog pvp class

play something that requires skill then you can say something about pvp and leveling

a shaman can solo easily , granted you will be close to worthless later , point remains you are a scrub

This is what a man terrified of fading into internet obscurity looks like.

Nirgon
02-15-2012, 03:49 PM
Are we really comparing an EXP Boost to corpse runs? Rly?

Players always asking for "gimme things" is pretty well known for the majority of gamers. Hence popularity of WoW etc.

My defense involves 2 things

1. CLASSIC - pvp servers with xp loss on death had a bonus. NO DISPUTE.

2. *Many* people have come here and said they are leaving due to no pvp/groups at low levels. Stop repeating this mistake. (Heresay, take it as you will) New people have come and messaged me from their lowbies asking me shit like I can do something about this.

You can absolutely justify the 20%-25% xp as classic and more than this may not necessarily be better. To be fair most of us were willing to look the other way on 8 levels and no item loot on an FFA server, which, NEVER FUCKING EXISTED in classic.

After this fyi we're going to "bitch" about resists next, we want a server with lots of people. Inb4 people have left based solely on the forums. Inb4 people quit cuz they get killed and cry.

steakshop
02-15-2012, 04:06 PM
oh hi , too late

not sure if anyone mentioned this before but it no longer matters

steakshop
02-15-2012, 04:44 PM
RED 99 closing theme song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_08gchS8k

its over thank you for participating oh heres 2% Xp bonus at 49 hahaha fucking lols

Slug
02-15-2012, 04:45 PM
Steaks still looking for attention ... hummmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRT0HYsYU0

steakshop
02-15-2012, 04:50 PM
god i want to nail the shit out of tina fey

Albane
02-15-2012, 04:58 PM
Speed up the timeline. 3 months later, we might get Sol Ro and gear for level 30 players?

Nirgon
02-15-2012, 05:02 PM
Speed up the timeline. 3 months later, we might get Sol Ro and gear for level 30 players?

It's called banded, fine plate, jewelry and stfuz

Rutaq
02-15-2012, 09:01 PM
Have you ever tried grouping with your friend who is a troll shadow knight and watched your exp gain grind drop to 1/3 of a percent per kill? Have you ever told your friend playing a monk to sit his ass down in a corner for the next couple days and don't move so the magician fire pet can tank with ds?

I play a Monk and no one has asked me to sit down :P

Seriously what are you rushing for ? You will make more XP by grouping than soloing and it's more fun so bring along your Troll Shadow Knight friend.

The push to trivialize P99 is like a petition to have the Boston Marathon only be 5 miles long because it take too long to run 26 or that lazy people should be able to ride bikes because running is boring.

The Marathon is a Marathon not a 5k walk for breast cancer, it is a test, a trail an accomplishment.

Nirgon
02-15-2012, 09:03 PM
Yeah I felt real accomplished when I dinged 50. More like relieved.

I've played the lowbie levels before. I like lvl 44+ pvp.

Moreso, the point is people having to BASICALLY PLAY SOLO EQ for 42 levels when they came here to PvP.

20% isn't a killer and some people might even break even (or worse..) with the # of pvp deaths they will take.

Yes, I know there will always be whiners, even with +100% xp people were complaining about how slow it was. Fuck them.

Vile
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
so happy i didn't make too far passed snake quest

Rutaq
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
big deal he said it comes out to 40% he didnt say he would do anything

just means he loaded this forum and kept the troll going

newsflash 40% will not save the server you ignored it too long

even 100 is iffy xp is just too slow to sustain normal functioning members of society

assclowns on the other hand multiply like metroids and dont care if you slash xp in half , they will still grind up druids so they can be mad at eachother and waste mana for nothing


Steak obviously you have given up so just move on already. You seem like a nice enough guy, ... jaded and cynical but nice enough...

Your dark view of things isn't reality.

I am a new player in a guild with at least a dozen other new players that started over the last month. So maybe some of the jaded Vets have given up but there more than enough new folks to make up for them when they finally leave and stop haunting the forums.

steakshop
02-15-2012, 10:44 PM
your 13 talk to me when you are 35 and see the exp

by then your new friends will be mostly gone also and youll be like everyone else
youll see most people here are assholes , most people hate eachother , youll be in a guild with no one , unable to solo and your gaming experience will change alot

at level 12 i was having fun too , shit i could even solo blues !

Was fun : )

Haul
02-15-2012, 10:45 PM
should remain the same, classic

steakshop
02-15-2012, 10:48 PM
natural not everyone is top 5% dude you have a zergling guild and played a caster

and you play like 12 hours a day

NORMAL people dont have that kind of time , and no they wont play a couple hours here and there to get 50 in 4 months


weve been through this

Amuk
02-15-2012, 11:24 PM
I play a Monk and no one has asked me to sit down :P

Seriously what are you rushing for ? You will make more XP by grouping than soloing and it's more fun so bring along your Troll Shadow Knight friend.

The push to trivialize P99 is like a petition to have the Boston Marathon only be 5 miles long because it take too long to run 26 or that lazy people should be able to ride bikes because running is boring.

The Marathon is a Marathon not a 5k walk for breast cancer, it is a test, a trail an accomplishment.

It blows my mind that a lvl 13 monk would be posting in this thread, that's all I have to say.

Nirgon
02-15-2012, 11:34 PM
That's really the kind of people we need to be asking or people who recently quit.

Amuk
02-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Yes let's ask the guy who has no experience with how empty the server is or no idea how gay it's going to get for him. I say we just take his assumptions on the situation instead of people who have been here and have seen the population dwindle and tons of people give up.

Bkab
02-15-2012, 11:46 PM
so happy i didn't make too far passed snake quest

lol i remember we were always falling behind the group to smoke in order to bare that terrible grind. 6 trolls/ogres all warriors, shamans and shadow knights grinding on tree snakes from lvl 2-10 pretty much in sro.

Nirgon
02-16-2012, 12:05 AM
I did that shit too. Everyone was a good race but me in my squad (Team BundyQuest) so I got to turn in a whole level worth of fangs/skins at the end.

steakshop
02-16-2012, 12:17 AM
woweee awhole level of skins and fangs dude you fucking win at life !

Nirgon
02-16-2012, 12:51 AM
Yeah the mobs all fought back.

Eat my balls.

Not_Kazowi
02-16-2012, 12:52 AM
If XP is scaled, I shall make a return. Let it be written in stone and bestowed upon the land by my disciples.

Lulz Sect
02-16-2012, 12:58 AM
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/svg/happy-epic-win.svg

Hovis
02-16-2012, 01:48 AM
If XP is scaled, I shall make a return. Let it be written in stone and bestowed upon the land by my disciples.

oh shit son big rexx up in this bitch

IronLikeALionInZion
02-16-2012, 02:20 AM
steaks Sobad

Vile
02-16-2012, 09:49 AM
If XP is scaled, I shall make a return. Let it be written in stone and bestowed upon the land by my disciples.

I will follow the true Emperor.

Rutaq
02-16-2012, 09:58 AM
It blows my mind that a lvl 13 monk would be posting in this thread, that's all I have to say.

Amuk your mind must be pretty weak if a simple post from a new player would blow it... just saying...

I am posting to counter the crying that the server is dead and that nobody plays on RED 99. I am not claiming to be an EQ genius, I haven't hit 50 yet, I haven't done any Raids...

But as a new player, I am low level and see what low level RED looks like, I live it and it isn't all doom and gloom as the jaded , impatient, Vets make it out to be. In reality the EQ Classic grind isn't scaring away all new players just the weak ones :P

Granted things may change when I get to the 30's like Steaks eluded to but for now things are moving along and my guild and I are having fun.


If there is a need to dimiss people's opinions on these forums, I would start by discounting those that don't donate regularly to keep the server running. If we are going to have to wade through countless pages of trolling threads the least the trolls can do is pay for the server development.

Nirgon
02-16-2012, 11:42 AM
Rutaq, I was never that much of an eqemu player until this box. But since I have started here from launch with this group...

MAN, I HAVE SEEN SHIT THAT WOULD MAKE YOU TURN WHITE.

steakshop
02-16-2012, 11:45 AM
xp will be scaled bros get ready for 2% at 49 !

steakshop
02-16-2012, 11:47 AM
trolls pay real money to get their fix being a dick on this forum?

hrmm

thats like nihilum buying loot !

oh wait ,,,

gorillionaire
02-16-2012, 12:37 PM
The 75% has spoken! Implement the xp bonus already at 100% that one has the most votes out of the options for xp bonus.

Good work GMs.

Lazortag
02-16-2012, 12:46 PM
The 75% has spoken! Implement the xp bonus already at 100% that one has the most votes out of the options for xp bonus.

Good work GMs.

I think the staff are more likely to compromise between the two most popular options. The mean of 100 and 0 is 50. While I think 50% is a bit excessive, when we did have a (temporary) 50% bonus it really wasn't that fast and I don't think it would kill the legitimacy of the server. However, for me to agree with any of this (and my support is crucial, after all I'm a very powerful and important person), the red community MUST sign an agreement saying they were not hardcore enough for classic exp, and that bluebies are superior.

Palemoon
02-16-2012, 12:47 PM
The 75% has spoken! Implement the xp bonus already at 100% that one has the most votes out of the options for xp bonus.

Good work GMs.

The people wanting to keep the xp classic has more votes then the 100 percenters, so no.

All the people wanting xp bonus are wanting to change what was advertised and attracted us all to this server in the first place, a 1999 style EMU. Please go to WoW and dont ruin it for those of us who signed up for 1999 style EMU.

BUT.. as someone who did play on Sullon Zek after rallos, I can accept a xp bonus so long as it is NOT more then 20 percent. Preferably scaled with levels to help the lower levels, even better if that bonus was applied to large/full groups to encourage the soloers to group and help build community.

Above 20 percent? Thats Monty Hall.

Hovis
02-16-2012, 12:53 PM
I think the staff are more likely to compromise between the two most popular options. The mean of 100 and 0 is 50. While I think 50% is a bit excessive, when we did have a (temporary) 50% bonus it really wasn't that fast and I don't think it would kill the legitimacy of the server. However, for me to agree with any of this (and my support is crucial, after all I'm a very powerful and important person), the red community MUST sign an agreement saying they were not hardcore enough for classic exp, and that bluebies are superior.

i don't know whether to laugh or feel bad for how retarded you are.

steakshop
02-16-2012, 01:35 PM
yea just keep it classic you retard and your server gets unplugged in less then 1 month

classic isnt working derp !

Morninx
02-16-2012, 04:20 PM
The people wanting to keep the xp classic has more votes then the 100 percenters, so no.

All the people wanting xp bonus are wanting to change what was advertised and attracted us all to this server in the first place, a 1999 style EMU. Please go to WoW and dont ruin it for those of us who signed up for 1999 style EMU.




100 pop prime time is CLASSIC

Amuk
02-16-2012, 05:33 PM
Amuk your mind must be pretty weak if a simple post from a new player would blow it... just saying...

I am posting to counter the crying that the server is dead and that nobody plays on RED 99. I am not claiming to be an EQ genius, I haven't hit 50 yet, I haven't done any Raids...

But as a new player, I am low level and see what low level RED looks like, I live it and it isn't all doom and gloom as the jaded , impatient, Vets make it out to be. In reality the EQ Classic grind isn't scaring away all new players just the weak ones :P

Granted things may change when I get to the 30's like Steaks eluded to but for now things are moving along and my guild and I are having fun.


If there is a need to dimiss people's opinions on these forums, I would start by discounting those that don't donate regularly to keep the server running. If we are going to have to wade through countless pages of trolling threads the least the trolls can do is pay for the server development.

The servers boring, there was less than 100 on Saturday at peak time. I was here day opening and have seen people drop off like flies. When I say it blows my mind that a level 13 is talking it's because I mean you haven't gone through any kind of difficulty yet. You have played in Qeynos and Blackburrow - come talk to me in a couple months. We still have a guild mate monk who's lvl 40 who logs on every day see's noone online and logs. You really don't know shit and are comming here arguing against making a change which could help the population - and it pisses me off. I don't go post on how to suck a dick threads and try to fuck your hobby up.

steakshop
02-16-2012, 05:39 PM
stasis speaks the truth , wise words

hey level 13 gtfo like i said , come back when youve put in some time

fiegi
02-16-2012, 05:43 PM
i lol'd

Not_Kazowi
02-16-2012, 05:44 PM
is high priest gyno still playing?

Silentone
02-16-2012, 05:47 PM
I went with 50% as to not seem to unrealistic, but seeing how there is a large pop who wants 100% ..i change my vote to 100%....im guessing as one of the people who didnt vote 100% ..there are more like me who would change their vote if allowed.

Ssleeve
02-16-2012, 05:53 PM
25% ~ Fuck other people, they are dumb.

Same reason why democracy doesn't work.

steakshop
02-16-2012, 06:05 PM
bluecross you will change your mind when you get higher level and see how little xp stuff gives trust me

Arillious
02-16-2012, 06:15 PM
Vast majority want a change of some kind.

If it brings back 20% of the people who are saying "Exp rate is the reason i quit" then its worth it.

We all know that putting in a exp bonus is pretty simple.(Temp bonus's are done all the time)

Whats the hold up? Unless this slow decline is turned around soon, even the die hards are going to quit.

On a side, I think adding an additional "group exp" bonus is a good idea. Over 70% of the server is one of 6 classes: Druid, shaman, necro, bard, mage, wizard. If someone is trying to level as efficiently as possible, none of these classes should ever be grouping after a certain level(When shamans get pet, when wizards can quad, etc) as any of the other classes are just going to slow them down.

kprobe
02-16-2012, 06:36 PM
rogeans scale sounds decent, I would make the overall bonus skewed even more to the low end IMHO something like 500/(x^(0.8)+5), where x is your level, or a smooth cosine curve like 50(1+cos(0.0625x)), but simple is probably best.

Harrison
02-16-2012, 07:08 PM
This kid banned for exploiting.stasis speaks the truth , wise words

hey level 13 gtfo like i said , come back when youve put in some time

Lulz Sect
02-16-2012, 07:16 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2mzmtg0.jpg

Amuk
02-16-2012, 07:26 PM
This kid banned for exploiting.

This guy doesn't even play this game - weird.

Rutaq
02-16-2012, 09:36 PM
The servers boring, there was less than 100 on Saturday at peak time. I was here day opening and have seen people drop off like flies. When I say it blows my mind that a level 13 is talking it's because I mean you haven't gone through any kind of difficulty yet. You have played in Qeynos and Blackburrow - come talk to me in a couple months. We still have a guild mate monk who's lvl 40 who logs on every day see's noone online and logs. You really don't know shit and are comming here arguing against making a change which could help the population - and it pisses me off. I don't go post on how to suck a dick threads and try to fuck your hobby up.


I feel sorry for your 40th level Monk friend.

The assumption that a drastic increase in the XP is going to "fix" EQ classic is unproven and pushing people quickly to 50 with such a limited amount of PvP content will bring about it's own set of problems.

Sucking dick aside, your opinion is as valid as anyone elses.

Mittens Romney
02-17-2012, 04:14 AM
I feel sorry for your 40th level Monk friend.

The assumption that a drastic increase in the XP is going to "fix" EQ classic is unproven and pushing people quickly to 50 with such a limited amount of PvP content will bring about it's own set of problems.

Sucking dick aside, your opinion is as valid as anyone elses.

Please name a few of the problems in this "set of problems"
At lvl 30 I have been attacked only one time. Pushing exp to bring everyone to the same lvl is the ONLY solution to a low population server. Once everyone gets the grind out of the way, most people camp resist gear and pvp. This is what creates pvp and entertainment on the red server. Not mindlessly chipping away at 50 lvls in some armpit of a zone that maybe gets 3 people to it max a day.

Morninx
02-17-2012, 05:20 AM
Once everyone gets the grind out of the way, most people camp resist gear and pvp. This is what creates pvp and entertainment on the red server. Not mindlessly chipping away at 50 lvls in some armpit of a zone.

nabsev
02-17-2012, 05:38 AM
What's so bad about cutting 15 days played to lvl 50 by 20-100%? Anyone scared of losing low to mid lvl pvp is being unrealistic since there is barely any at that lvl range anyway.

Billbike
02-17-2012, 11:06 AM
Low level pvp :

Omg 1 more yellow till 20 and tracking!

Omg I'm getting attacked, but this mob is almost dead.

Hmm fight and possibly die, lose an hour or more worth of CR/EXPLOSS/breaking room/spawn again?
Fuck that, I need 50 so I can camp pixels.

You begin casting Gate.

Peace.

That was sooo much FUN.

Hovis
02-17-2012, 11:26 AM
Low level pvp :

Omg 1 more yellow till 20 and tracking!

Omg I'm getting attacked, but this mob is almost dead.

Hmm fight and possibly die, lose an hour or more worth of CR/EXPLOSS/breaking room/spawn again?
Fuck that, I need 50 so I can camp pixels.

You begin casting Gate.

Peace.

That was sooo much FUN.

well put sir, well put

Flowz
02-17-2012, 12:02 PM
There has to be some grind to 50 and make it worth it, or else ur gonna have poeple exploiting cheating ect all have chars back to 50 in a day or 2, i know u guys hate "this grind" but on the other boxes nobody did "this" grind i havn't dont this "grind" since like 2003 2002ish. 100% is to much anywhere between 15-20% is alright i think.

Palemoon
02-17-2012, 12:09 PM
There has to be some grind to 50 and make it worth it, or else ur gonna have poeple exploiting cheating ect all have chars back to 50 in a day or 2, i know u guys hate "this grind" but on the other boxes nobody did "this" grind i havn't dont this "grind" since like 2003 2002ish. 100% is to much anywhere between 15-20% is alright i think.


This is so true.

When people can just roll up throw away toons, you will see exploiting, training, etc. increase exponentially.

Keep it classic.

2nd case in point, why rush to 50? So you can quit like most other lvl 50's have done for lack of content? Enjoy the journy, go to the RnF section and check out all the lowbie pvp screenshots happening. No need to rush.

Old style EQ is about the acomplishment, once you take that away you have WoW with bad graphics. Any xp bonus over 20 percent = not classic and detracts from the acomplishment of building our mains up in a harsh red enviornment.

Keep it classic.

Amuk
02-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Having a scaling exp system would take you awhile to still level your char, 40-50 would have a minimal 20% and lower bonus. Hell 35 would only have like 30%? People won't be levelling up throw away toons on this type of bonus holy smokes haha.

Flowz
02-17-2012, 12:31 PM
or if u could do something like 100% for lvls 1-20, 50 % for lvls 20 - 30, and 15 or 20% for lvls 30 - 40, and make it normal for 40 - 50 that way the lower lvls go a little quicker pvp before 20 is kinda gay anyway the way the guards act everyone below 20 just runs to them anyway unless they are a twinked out char at which the other person has bascially no chance.

Flowz
02-17-2012, 12:35 PM
Having a scaling exp system would take you awhile to still level your char, 40-50 would have a minimal 20% and lower bonus. Hell 35 would only have like 30%? People won't be levelling up throw away toons on this type of bonus holy smokes haha.

im all for the scaling bonus, i just dont want people to do whatever they please because they know it only takes a day or 2 to get to 50 again, or someone lvling up a few chars and then just doing what they please knowning they have lvl 50 "alts" ready to be used for whatever.

steakshop
02-17-2012, 12:38 PM
This is so true.

When people can just roll up throw away toons, you will see exploiting, training, etc. increase exponentially.

Keep it classic.

2nd case in point, why rush to 50? So you can quit like most other lvl 50's have done for lack of content? Enjoy the journy, go to the RnF section and check out all the lowbie pvp screenshots happening. No need to rush.

Old style EQ is about the acomplishment, once you take that away you have WoW with bad graphics. Any xp bonus over 20 percent = not classic and detracts from the acomplishment of building our mains up in a harsh red enviornment.

Keep it classic.

people arent exploiting / training / doing horrible shit now?

you do know that no one has been banned for anything thats been done right?

Bkab
02-17-2012, 12:58 PM
btw, you guys crying about an exp increase will make people not care about getting banned act like it still will not take a full week or more of /played to get level 50 (not to mention completely re gear) even with a 20-50% exp bonus across the board which is still way too much time for us normal fucking non-wheelchair bound mongoloid mouth breathers.

Envious
02-17-2012, 01:12 PM
Rogeans 100-(Lvl x 2) formula is the best option.

It should be kept for 50+ IMO, so at 59 you have a negative 18% penalty.

Help people get out of the low end, but more than earn it back during kunark

Ssleeve
02-17-2012, 01:15 PM
There has to be some grind to 50 and make it worth it, or else ur gonna have poeple exploiting cheating ect all have chars back to 50 in a day or 2, i know u guys hate "this grind" but on the other boxes nobody did "this" grind i havn't dont this "grind" since like 2003 2002ish. 100% is to much anywhere between 15-20% is alright i think.

Nirgon
02-17-2012, 01:18 PM
Yeah the xp sure stopped people exploiting here. They certainly got banned, learned they lesson (actually big ups to Amelinda recently) and had to reroll.

20-25% up time.

Ssleeve
02-17-2012, 03:57 PM
20-25% up time.

Silikten
02-17-2012, 04:50 PM
20% was classic. That is the argument for it. It is also a reasonable amount of bonus to not re-roll 10 characters. It's very logical.

Nirgon
02-17-2012, 04:51 PM
20% was classic. That is the argument for it. It is also a reasonable amount of bonus to not re-roll 10 characters. It's very logical.

http://anemphaticyes.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/title21.jpg

Billbike
02-17-2012, 05:16 PM
20% was classic. That is the argument for it. It is also a reasonable amount of bonus to not re-roll 10 characters. It's very logical.

LOGIC IS NOT CLASSIC
HAVE TO KEEP IT CLASSIC
I DON'T KNOW WHY
WE JUST DO

Knuckle
02-17-2012, 05:40 PM
100% just fucking do it nothing will change unless its a big boost.

bakkily
02-17-2012, 05:48 PM
20% for two weeks would be fine, if anything permanent 10%, but we dont need a extra % bumpage on the xp rate

steakshop
02-17-2012, 05:52 PM
just for lols

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steakshop
02-17-2012, 06:13 PM
does not matter even if you increase exp assholes are the reason why server is failing

for over half hour wolfram has been griefing my level 12 , i had to put him on my ignore list in oasis and he followed me all the way to guk to dot then charm my stuff

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took about 50 more pics , bored of uploading them , you get the jist

lazorfag is indeed a fag and has very little to do today

The end

Harrison
02-17-2012, 06:17 PM
Steakshop caught exploiting.

Proof here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=551217&postcount=1

Then when caught, banned, and owned, he flooded the forums with Cast in an attempt to bring negative attention to new players coming to Red99.

Opinions invalidated, cheating piece of shit, general scumbag.

steakshop
02-17-2012, 06:20 PM
who flooded the forums? the fuck are you talking about harrison

dude are you still mad i hurt your butt in gfay? dude i will buy you a fresh pair of huggies if you promise not to shit them in the first 5 mins

fiegi
02-17-2012, 06:40 PM
The current XP rate is fine. It's super cute how all the "owning joo" and "u gun b deds" tough talk all but vanished since release. This is a Classic Everquest PVP server boys, amirite?

Looks like my tits are bigger than all your nads combined.

Level 8 player

Will never see 25.

Glad you are happy with the current situation

Kimm Barely
02-17-2012, 06:41 PM
I rest my case.

Nirgon
02-17-2012, 07:30 PM
I will cover your face in my nads.

Harrison
02-17-2012, 07:43 PM
Level 8 player

Will never see 25.

Glad you are happy with the current situation

Cheater in a 100% documented cheating guild.

Glad you are happy with the current situation.

fiegi
02-17-2012, 07:46 PM
Never cheated sorry.

Harrison
02-17-2012, 08:16 PM
More lucky than exploit?

Learning from the other cheaters how to deny it?

Seaweedpimp
02-17-2012, 08:17 PM
confirmed kroger out of deli meat

Seaweedpimp
02-17-2012, 08:18 PM
hariison maybe you should head to kimms house im sure she has plenty of deli meat for u to play with

steakshop
02-17-2012, 08:24 PM
More lucky than exploit?

Learning from the other cheaters how to deny it?

harrison since your brother is down and coined

can i have his shit?

fiegi
02-17-2012, 08:28 PM
In Harrison's fat mind 99% of eq emu players are cheaters since his logic states being guilded with someone who has exploited or hacked automatically makes you that as well.

500 players on blue suspended for macroquest, how many of those 500 players you think have been guilded with the 400 or so that weren't macroquesting?? Safe to assume an extremely high percentage, how many you think were guilded with Harrison? Guess that makes Harrison a cheater and exploiter as well.

Do everyone a favor and just cut deli meat, leave logic to the rest of us.

Harrison
02-17-2012, 08:55 PM
Man, cheaters rage out when you out them. I wonder if you stamp your feet like the children that you are too?

This is for Steaks. Click the link in that thread to see him exploiting.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=551217&postcount=1

Nirgon
02-17-2012, 09:09 PM
In his mind he only got griefed off red box cuz everyone cheated but him.

Truth that hurts: He was raped by Sprinkles.

Ssleeve
02-17-2012, 09:20 PM
In his mind he only got griefed off red box cuz everyone cheated but him.

Truth that hurts: He was raped by Sprinkles.

I wonder how much it makes him rage to know all of us have him on ignore, he must now deal with the truth in silence.

Lulz Sect
02-17-2012, 10:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/87vOx.jpg

steakshop
02-17-2012, 11:11 PM
i dunno harrison seems to have such a big deal with exploiting yet its epicly rampant on eq emu

why are you here harrison?

Ssleeve
02-17-2012, 11:21 PM
Knew that was you, even though you said it wasn't in-game.

lol you trained random lowbies in Unrest for fucking hours, you deserve a good grief,

Harrison
02-18-2012, 12:19 AM
Any forum search about Cozmonaut proves he didn't rape anyone. In fact, quite the opposite and he raged off of beta like he got banned off of LiveRed99.

Not_Kazowi
02-18-2012, 12:26 AM
just fucking raise XP omfg

Estrang
02-18-2012, 12:35 AM
personalities made the box and this one has none

Arclyte
02-18-2012, 01:33 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/ArclytePS/lolharrison.jpg

Morninx
02-18-2012, 01:48 AM
I know several people that will play if exp raised.

gnomishfirework
02-18-2012, 02:20 AM
People need to stop acting like getting exp is "difficult", it's not, it's a mindless timesink, one we've all done 1000x already. This is a PVP server, if we want to have a strong, vibrant community, we need people, and we're not going to get people by having level 50 take 13 days played.

this is true. Even a 100% exp boost wouldnt trivialize content. it would still take a good amount of time.

an increase could always disabled if it doesnt workout.

steakshop
02-18-2012, 02:03 PM
37 pages of TROLL

ps harrison still mad

Rushmore
02-18-2012, 02:58 PM
Just let everyone auto ding 35.......

Snufz
02-18-2012, 04:02 PM
It's funny how the GMs are way more successful trolls then any Red 99 player could hope to be.

Take notes.

Titanuk
02-18-2012, 04:13 PM
It's funny how the GMs are way more successful trolls then any Red 99 player could hope to be.

Take notes.

Knuckle
02-18-2012, 04:34 PM
It's funny how the GMs are way more successful trolls then any Red 99 player could hope to be.

Take notes.

Gm Fist was the best gm ever

Harrison
02-18-2012, 06:11 PM
37 pages of TROLL

ps harrison still mad

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64379

Steaks exploiting because of how absolutely terrible he is at EQ. This is the type of player that wants 100% increase in experience.

The troll account hordes voting for 100% increase can't even outnumber the legitimate votes for no experience increase at all.

20% is the only logical amount of increase, and even that is caving in to the vztzject crybabies who are very obviously incapable of handling classic EQ.

Muck
02-18-2012, 07:29 PM
Why aren't you posting about issues regarding the server you actually play on? The "vztz cry babies" are almost all 50, you can't handle red, why make fun of someone for not being able to handle blue? I tried blue just before red beta, I was like oh god no I'm not spending 4 hours a level with no pvp. I clearly didn't make the cut for blue.

Increasing experience isn't caving to anyone, it's an attept to make our red easier so your blues will come and play. Hell it may even get you to come back, you have an obvious interest in playing here as your posts are clogging up this 40 page thread.

fiegi
02-18-2012, 07:45 PM
Harrison is just mad he cuts deli meat for a living, and is a cheater/exploiter in a 12 year old game.

Ssleeve
02-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Harrison is just mad he cuts deli meat for a living, and is a cheater/exploiter in a 12 year old game.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loy9flQtPF1qh1wwb.gif

Harrison
02-18-2012, 08:32 PM
Harrison is just mad he cuts deli meat for a living, and is a cheater/exploiter in a 12 year old game.

Fiegi is in Holocaust.

Holocaust caught cheating.

Of course this noob and his kind want things easier. They're fucking bad.

Truth
02-18-2012, 08:43 PM
harrison you have to be considered good in order to call others bad. i don't regret to inform you that you do not make the bar

fiegi
02-18-2012, 08:46 PM
Fiegi is in Holocaust.

Holocaust caught cheating.

Of course this noob and his kind want things easier. They're fucking bad.

What exactly do I want easier? I have a lvl 50 char with full gear. All my pals are 50.

I want more newbies like yourself who were caught cheating on blue to play so I can kill them over and over and over.

go make me a tuna melt, but dont burn the fucking cheese deli boy.

Nirgon
02-18-2012, 08:51 PM
Why aren't you posting about issues regarding the server you actually play on? The "vztz cry babies" are almost all 50, you can't handle red, why make fun of someone for not being able to handle blue? I tried blue just before red beta, I was like oh god no I'm not spending 4 hours a level with no pvp. I clearly didn't make the cut for blue.

Increasing experience isn't caving to anyone, it's an attept to make our red easier so your blues will come and play. Hell it may even get you to come back, you have an obvious interest in playing here as your posts are clogging up this 40 page thread.


The abridged story of Harrison:


Unproductive goofball, nut sack fails out of school ayt Inglorious Bastards U. Decides he makes his own guild to "show them" <Gothic Circle>. Guild tanks harder than Peace Pipe or even Grindcore from red beta. A blue troll is born. He couldn't make it because everyone is a cheater BUT him. Many threads later, since in game is irrelevant, he is mercilessly insulted for his in game and real life failures. He tries to repeat the mad cuz bad and you exploit lingo he puts off. Disowned by IB, insulted by all.

Griefed off red while guilded with known trainer and exploiter, Abacab.

Sweet song bird, Harrison, I've had a fee drinks and the inhibitors are running a little low. Take a hint, this community spits in your face and laughs. Let me also add live guilds on PvP would eat the guilds here for breakfast. If you can't make it here? I mean as the most celebrated failure (roflmao Gothic Circle - seriously go hang out a hot topic) , do us all a favor. Dig a hole next to your bro and pull the trigger.

John Stossel'd.

Bazia
02-18-2012, 08:54 PM
The abridged story of Harrison:


Unproductive goofball, nut sack fails out of school ayt Inglorious Bastards U. Decides he makes his own guild to "show them" <Gothic Circle>. Guild tanks harder than Peace Pipe or even Grindcore from red beta. A blue troll is born. He couldn't make it because everyone is a cheater BUT him. Many threads later, since in game is irrelevant, he is mercilessly insulted for his in game and real life failures. He tries to repeat the mad cuz bad and you exploit lingo he puts off. Disowned by IB, insulted by all.

Griefed off red while guilded with known trainer and exploiter, Abacab.

Sweet song bird, Harrison, I've had a fee drinks and the inhibitors are running a little low. Take a hint, this community spits in your face and laughs. Let me also add live guilds on PvP would eat the guilds here for breakfast. If you can't make it here? I mean as the most celebrated failure (roflmao Gothic Circle - seriously go hang out a hot topic) , do us all a favor. Dig a hole next to your bro and pull the trigger.

John Stossel'd.

http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/06/At-First-I-Lold-But-Then-I-Seriousd.jpg

Nirgon
02-18-2012, 08:57 PM
What exactly do I want easier? I have a lvl 50 char with full gear. All my pals are 50.

I want more newbies like yourself who were caught cheating on blue to play so I can kill them over and over and over.

go make me a tuna melt, but dont burn the fucking cheese deli boy.

Pour out a lil liquor for gothic circle and fat fagboy qq who will report this.

IronLikeALionInZion
02-18-2012, 09:09 PM
lol i seen a Gothic circle member like ONCE, thought it was funny. knowing that its a harrison production makes it HILARIOUS

steakshop
02-18-2012, 09:25 PM
http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/06/At-First-I-Lold-But-Then-I-Seriousd.jpg

AHAHa hah alollll

fucking lol nirgon you dick too

i love this forum , im pretty much done here tho

fucking staff just ignore everyone and dont care whats the point really

Harrison
02-18-2012, 09:47 PM
The hilarity in that you think GC was my creation...

You should stick to crying about xp rates you can't handle and exploiting Nagafen. Making up shit isn't working for you.

Harrison
02-18-2012, 09:56 PM
AHAHa hah alollll

fucking lol nirgon you dick too

i love this forum , im pretty much done here tho

fucking staff just ignore everyone and dont care whats the point really

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64379

This is Steaks in the video in that thread, exploiting. Cheater's opinions' are invalid.

Bkab
02-18-2012, 10:02 PM
hahah harrison confirmed leader of <gothic circle> lmao what a fat sack of shit.

Harrison
02-18-2012, 10:06 PM
Cheaters will make up anything to deflect the FACT they and their guild are cheaters.

Vztzject guild Holocaust caught exploiting, 1/2012

Diggles
02-18-2012, 10:12 PM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lew28bNIhT1qduoyvo1_400.jpg

steakshop
02-18-2012, 10:14 PM
i cheat and guess what harrison , you care more then i do

holo people may have cheated but they have friends , and fun

who cares dude , let it go dont be so goddam angry all the time

get off your computer and go meet some people and have a beer

stop being so fucking mad

fiegi
02-18-2012, 10:18 PM
make me a tuna melt harrison

Bkab
02-18-2012, 10:20 PM
hahahaha harrison confirmed furious about being ousted as the creator and leader of <gothic circle> hahahaha what a fat piece of shit hahahah

Bkab
02-18-2012, 10:21 PM
fat

steakshop
02-18-2012, 10:25 PM
fat

pretty much sums up harrison

Harrison
02-18-2012, 10:25 PM
hahahaha harrison confirmed furious about being ousted as the creator and leader of <gothic circle> hahahaha what a fat piece of shit hahahah

The word you are looking for is outed. At least cheat at your language, kid. If you can cheat a dragon, cheat with a spellcheck lol

Harrison
02-18-2012, 10:27 PM
pretty much sums up harrison

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64379

Seaweedpimp
02-18-2012, 10:32 PM
5% exp bonus is all thats needed.


Or nothing at all~

hagard
02-18-2012, 11:10 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64379

you're such a fuckin' moran, you talk all this shit about exploiters then you keep posting this link so new people can learn how to use it.

fiegi
02-18-2012, 11:12 PM
its ok

harrison was guilded with ppl banned on blue for mq and exploiting pathing

so in his world that makes him a hacker + exploiter as well

embrace it fatty

Harrison
02-19-2012, 12:07 AM
Unsubstantiated imaginary claims whereas mine are well documented, every single one of them.

Don't be mad at me that you keep cheaters in your guild. You condone this behavior, use it yourself, or you man the fuck up and remove scum from your guild and grief them off the server.

We all know your choice. Defending cheaters everywhere, because you are one.

Estrang
02-19-2012, 12:13 AM
scumbag of the tinkerer

Bkab
02-19-2012, 12:28 AM
hahahahaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaah

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/ArclytePS/lolharrison.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/ArclytePS/lolharrison.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/ArclytePS/lolharrison.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/ArclytePS/lolharrison.jpg

Nirgon
02-19-2012, 12:51 AM
I'm 14 drinks deep. Welcome to Supreme status, you are an EverQuest/forum joke. Suck my huge veiny cock fat ass.

<Gothic Circle > / <Grindcore> - get fucked

I'm dangerous son, front on me.

RNF this bitch an' I'm out Bitches.

Harrison
02-19-2012, 12:56 AM
Man you know you have the kids mad when they get some shirley temples in them and they get all brave.

Silikten
02-19-2012, 01:24 AM
Such a nice thread started by Nilbog quickly turned by idiots. Guess the sandbox too crowded these days, huh Nilbog.

steakshop
02-19-2012, 01:20 PM
bro this was just a troll , nilbog will tell you the same shit amelinda did about global ooc

oh we just made a poll to gauge interest , ill take the info to rogean

newsflash he does not give a shit

i love how the only person who can do anything on this server does not care haha

shit is epic ! I cant believe i even played here i should have known better

nilbog
02-19-2012, 01:25 PM
bro this was just a troll , nilbog will tell you the same shit amelinda did about global ooc

oh we just made a poll to gauge interest , ill take the info to rogean

newsflash he does not give a shit

i love how the only person who can do anything on this server does not care haha

shit is epic ! I cant believe i even played here i should have known better

Do not troll my thread. The intent of the poll should be clear. GAUGE INTEREST IN EXP.

It's not a fucking democratic vote process. You're saying my poll somehow failed? gtfo

hagard
02-19-2012, 01:26 PM
Do not troll my thread. The intent of the poll should be clear. GAUGE INTEREST IN EXP.

It's not a fucking democratic vote process. You're saying my poll somehow failed? gtfo

Do you have any kind of update with what's going on

nilbog
02-19-2012, 01:30 PM
Do you have any kind of update with what's going on

Are you referring to exp? A discussion Rogean and I had in IM chats is somewhere in this thread.

I support a scaled system starting somewhat higher at low levels and tapering off. Or a flat 20% rate. Either one of them is worth trying to me.

For this, and many other things to happen, there would need to be a patch.

Ssleeve
02-19-2012, 01:33 PM
Are you referring to exp? A discussion Rogean and I had in IM chats is somewhere in this thread.

I support a scaled system starting somewhat higher at low levels and tapering off. Or a flat 20% rate. Either one of them is worth trying to me.

For this, and many other things to happen, there would need to be a patch.

Confirmed both great ideas. Can't wait for the next patch, all the nay sayers will be back I tellz ya!

SamwiseRed
02-19-2012, 01:56 PM
can we get a mj gif to end this thread hommie

Ssleeve
02-19-2012, 02:03 PM
can we get a mj gif to end this thread hommie

Nilbog has spoken

/thread

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lge0hbMFwt1qd37nbo1_500.gif

gnomishfirework
02-19-2012, 02:10 PM
Id like to see 50% at level 1, drops 1% each level after 10.

Hovis
02-19-2012, 02:39 PM
Are you referring to exp? A discussion Rogean and I had in IM chats is somewhere in this thread.

I support a scaled system starting somewhat higher at low levels and tapering off. Or a flat 20% rate. Either one of them is worth trying to me.

For this, and many other things to happen, there would need to be a patch.

is there a set date or anything planned? if so please let us know =D Gracias!

Nirgon
02-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Are you referring to exp? A discussion Rogean and I had in IM chats is somewhere in this thread.

I support a scaled system starting somewhat higher at low levels and tapering off. Or a flat 20% rate. Either one of them is worth trying to me.

For this, and many other things to happen, there would need to be a patch.

Sorry for ripping into people in your thread. I was drunk.

Truth
02-19-2012, 02:47 PM
i am irresponsible for my actions

Smedy
02-19-2012, 04:21 PM
don't care about the exp, faster would be better but global ooc + yellow text more important for pop

logging on to a mmorpg only to find having to /msg everyone like a retard is.... retarded

make ooc global let the community flourish, let us taunt each other when dirtnaps are being had, and let the people who can't handle it play on the blue

Srs Not Ames
02-19-2012, 04:25 PM
don't care about the exp, faster would be better but global ooc + yellow text more important for pop

logging on to a mmorpg only to find having to /msg everyone like a retard is.... retarded

make ooc global let the community flourish, let us taunt each other when dirtnaps are being had, and let the people who can't handle it play on the blue

please let us harass each other ITS ALL WE HAVE LEFT : /

Evoken
02-19-2012, 04:38 PM
I would def prefer an exp bonus that was higher at lower levels and tapered down to no exp bonus somewhere around 30.

Lulz Sect
02-19-2012, 04:51 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/6/2/321b680f-7498-4a57-8057-11486b39e177.jpg

Bones
02-19-2012, 05:11 PM
I would def prefer an exp bonus that was higher at lower levels and tapered down to no exp bonus somewhere around 30.
This does sound like a cool idea.

fiegi
02-19-2012, 05:17 PM
Seems like all the dev's are handcuffed by the "..... but of course it needs to be patched in" issue. Going on about 2 months since that last Rogean patch

Ssleeve
02-19-2012, 05:19 PM
Will donate $ for Rogean patch, lets start a fundraiser.

SRS

Butthead
02-19-2012, 05:25 PM
il throw down

heartbrand
02-19-2012, 05:30 PM
Will donate $ for Rogean patch, lets start a fundraiser.

SRS

Morninx
02-19-2012, 08:37 PM
il throw down

Salty
02-19-2012, 09:35 PM
don't care about the exp, faster would be better but global ooc + yellow text more important for pop

logging on to a mmorpg only to find having to /msg everyone like a retard is.... retarded

make ooc global let the community flourish, let us taunt each other when dirtnaps are being had, and let the people who can't handle it play on the blue

~

SamwiseRed
02-19-2012, 10:30 PM
make box one giant zone with no escape, everyone must die

fiegi
02-19-2012, 11:29 PM
lol vanguard was so bad

SamwiseRed
02-19-2012, 11:30 PM
samwise just suicided into a pack of wolves. feels good to be a gangsta

SearyxTZ
02-20-2012, 05:18 AM
Had not gotten a chance to respond to this thread till now. I didn't bother to read most of it since it's pretty huge, so I'll stick to the original topic.

i think searyx had a really good idea as far as increasing xp for players level 25 and below then spreading that xp required among the higher levels. so you could get to level 25 faster and retain players better. i think a slight xp bump would help also.

Thanks. :)

I've already posted a lot about it. I won't rehash what I've already said.

The early xp curve is especially important because it will hook new players if they get through the early levels without too much pain (including those who quit at level 5 and were initially turned off before they became invested), and also tighten the level spread of players towards 30-50'ish (a good thing when your red server population is < 1000 -- you want players to be seeing eachother once in a while).


I also think global channels should go in. Look - there's basically two options for that right now. You keep the zone-specific channels and nobody uses them at all, because there's not enough people on the server to accommodate that. Or you make it global and retain the social aspect that made classic EQ appealing and give players something to do (auction their shit or shoot the bull in ooc) while they're medding for five minutes in between kills.

I'm really happy that this stuff is being considered and hope it goes in. It will be easier to get people playing here.

Billbike
02-20-2012, 09:55 AM
http://gaygamer.net/images/Cheers.jpg

THEY WEREN'T TROLLING US!

THANKS AND PRAISE BE TO YEE!

stormlord
02-21-2012, 07:51 PM
100% (2x) exp increase is not enough.

Here's why:
1) server has 50 - 150 population (a fraction of live)
... it requires more time to level without solid groups
2) Pvp is an additional risk to the normal PvE
... more time to level because douche bags are griefing you
3) Most players are anon so it's harder to find groups
... the social atmosphere on eq pvp servers has always been unfriendly

I didn't vote because this poll is rigged.

Preferably, we could alter the classes to compensate for the small population. But something like that would require a lot of work (and wouldn't be like this game), so a overall exp increase would be a much quicker response. This point also applies to the blue server since it has always had less population than live.

What would I do? I would not allow people to solo in a way that's out of character for eq (even though I'd be tempted to). I do not have the design document for this game so I cannot say what population a server requires to meet its needs. But my guess is somewhere around 1000. So if this server has 80 people on average then I'd need to correct for a factor of 12. That's a large valley to fill. We want players to still seek out each other and form groups, but we cannot have it be based on needing a large group to level at an acceptable rate. There just aren't enough players. And then you have to consider the size of the continent and that this game wasn't made to allow faster travel than a druid or wizard could supply (assuming they're sufficiently available). So seeking out that 4th or 5th person that's on the other side of the world isn't practical. It's a tough call, but I'd start by doubling the overall solo/group experience. Then I'd triple the group experience bonus. So when you add a 2nd person (assuming a equal capability to yourself), you'd gain 48% rather than 16%. And when you add a 5th person (and 6th) it would be 600%. After that the factor is 1.5, so close enough. Now I would need to add an additional experience bonus to compensate for the fact that this is a PvP server, not a PvE. How much longer does it take to level up here, versus on the blue server? That would be a worthwhile thing to know. My guess is 50% longer, if you exclude the population difference. So I'd increase the overall experience by a factor of 1.5x, once more. All of this is off the top of my mind (and subject to mass error), but it would be a start.

There is something else. Before I would make up my mind, I'd examine the difference between solo classes and group-based classes. How much faster does a solo-class level up than a warrior or rogue? For example, if the population on the server was only 1, then, without grouping, what are the prospects for all of the classes to reach max level? Beyond these concerns, we also have to consider that epics and raids and certain zones depend on a person being in a group whether they're max level or not. So a single person would not be able to do them. Furthermore, people like to see other players and a empty zone is not a conducive atmosphere. I'm sure there're many other things I could list here that require more than 1 person for enjoyment of the game.

In the end, an exp gain is a bandaid fix. It's not at all preferable. If I was a warrior on an empty server, for example, no amount of exp gain is going to make the game feel fun and rich as it should be.

Truth
02-21-2012, 08:06 PM
my assburger brethren whats done is done and whats white is right.

steaks6
02-21-2012, 09:36 PM
gonna agree with stormlord the exp bonus you guys put in is great

but it should have been 100% across the board at release , not now

we are in the desperate to save type setting

im sorry but i tried playing even at 12 and im done here , im not a clown with nothing to do , i dont grind shit for 1/8th of a blue per kill it isnt happening

you still have time to save your server , put in a real exp bonus and ban the shitheads , and break up nihilum , preferably by banning their RMTs

lots of good people in that guild , would be nice to see them in a guild that isnt built on a foundation of pure shit

lovely if you arent banned , log the fuck in

SamwiseRed
02-21-2012, 09:37 PM
are you guys freakin kidding me? stfu lol

steaks6
02-21-2012, 09:39 PM
get past 33 and play something that isnt a druid and you can talk scrubwise

SamwiseRed
02-21-2012, 09:43 PM
k ill roll a rogue, I am thinking wood elf would be the worse race. you agree?

Titanuk
02-21-2012, 10:08 PM
xp so hard

steaks6
02-21-2012, 11:00 PM
k ill roll a rogue, I am thinking wood elf would be the worse race. you agree?

dunno scrubwise they have a bit low str but great dex and if you pound your points you can hit 125 agility right out of the box

oh and they have the highest dodge bonus of any race

but you didnt know that did you nublet

Silikten
02-21-2012, 11:00 PM
I'm an ungrateful idiot.

Fixed

SamwiseRed
02-21-2012, 11:26 PM
yar hit that 125 agi leaving me with what 60 somethin str? sounds like a winner in the dps dept, i said rogue hommie not a tank but nonetheless made a woody rogue. named Denzel with my rusty dagger and guild tunic.

bamzal
02-22-2012, 12:11 AM
Fixed

thanks for the coles notes :p