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Flash
03-13-2012, 05:53 PM
Things like 55HP rings, Hiero cloak, Kunark quest armor, drops from sebilis, etc?

I mean for Lv1 twinks and end-game.

Flunklesnarkin
03-13-2012, 05:55 PM
Fail troll

Flash
03-13-2012, 06:01 PM
I guess you don't get what I'm asking.

Is it fine to buy Kunark stuff now, or am I better off waiting until better Velious gear comes out?

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 06:10 PM
How long have you been on p99?

Flash
03-13-2012, 06:11 PM
How long have you been on p99?

Not long. Why?

Ele
03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Considering there has not been any clue as to the release date of Velious on this server you are looking at anywhere from one month to a year before it comes out, or more.

5/55 rings get a very minor upgrade with Velium bars to 6/65 rings. Black Sapphire necklace has a minor upgrade to 65/65.
Fungi Tunic and Hiero Cloak are still awesome.
Kunark Armor is instantly replaced with Thurg/PoG/SS/Kael quest armors (except for certain pieces Donal's BP, JBB, etc.).

No reason right now to forego or hold back something to put on a new character just because you want to wait for Velious; especially, if you want that character to be leveled up in time for Velious.

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 06:19 PM
Just curious why you're so worried about Kunark gear?

Danyelle
03-13-2012, 06:20 PM
Classic->Kunark->Velious and even ->Luclin didn't make very large leaps in terms of gear stats especially tradeable non-raid. PoP was the first to really break the viability of the gear from any particular era and even then it was all mostly still used as Twink gear. Hell to this DAY some of the shit from Kunark/Velious is good or even great twink gear. That's in an era with fucking Defiant armor.

Long story short, items will be far from outdated when Velious drops don't worry.

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 06:25 PM
Will the price of some items take a shit when Velious comes out?

Yes.

Will the items suddenly be useless to your character?

No.

Flash
03-13-2012, 06:39 PM
So investing 50k into a Hierophants cloak won't make me a sucker when Velious comes out? It'll still be worth around that?

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
How long have you been on p99?
Not long. Why?
So investing 50k into a Hierophants cloak won't make me a sucker when Velious comes out? It'll still be worth around that?

You have 50k and haven't been on the server that long?

I'm impressed...

Flash
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
You have 50k and haven't been on the server that long?

I'm impressed...

Well, not long by most players standards. Some have been here for years. I've only been here for months, and got some very generous handouts along the way.

You know, I think I'm just gonna be safe and buy a Hooded Black Cloak.

Ikonoclastia
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
You have 50k and haven't been on the server that long?

I'm impressed...
Take a bit of work but @ 20 if you are smart you could get 50k in a couple of weeks completely legitimately, especially on this server.

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 07:01 PM
I'm not questioning the validity of the money, just curious.

A wise player would look at all Velious cloak items that are DROP and see how the stats/classes/races stack up against your overpriced 50k cloak.

If there is a tradeable back piece that's better, I will bet you that 50k that it will drop in price by at least 50%.

Feel free to QFT for the future, so I can sit back smug with my arms crossed and say, "I dun told ya so! Oh lawd!"

Flunklesnarkin
03-13-2012, 07:06 PM
Prices will drop for sure..


but their is no estimate on when velious will come out



I'd imagine it wouldn't be any time soon...


but either way gear will still be useful from kunark / classic like others have said.

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 07:11 PM
but their is no estimate on when velious will come out


Insider trading with Rogean/Nilbog anyone?

LOL

Flunklesnarkin
03-13-2012, 07:18 PM
well no public estimate


I don't have a batphone to nilbog/rogean lol

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 07:21 PM
@OP:

Want a good twink item for your shammie but not get ass raped on the price?

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Mammoth_Hide_Cloak

~1500pp

or are you an AC/STA guy?

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Totemic_Cloak

~300pp

Kope
03-13-2012, 07:43 PM
I'm not questioning the validity of the money, just curious.

A wise player would look at all Velious cloak items that are DROP and see how the stats/classes/races stack up against your overpriced 50k cloak.

If there is a tradeable back piece that's better, I will bet you that 50k that it will drop in price by at least 50%.

Feel free to QFT for the future, so I can sit back smug with my arms crossed and say, "I dun told ya so! Oh lawd!"

It'll definitely drop the price but I don't think by half. My guild leader on live farmed the heck out of the heiro cloaks by himself in PoP (While my guild was farming PoTime mind you) and selling the plat he got for IRL cash. Heiro cloaks are still awesome for a very long time to come...

...but again, the price will drop once velious comes back and people go "ohh look, new shiny!!!!!"

Grozmok
03-13-2012, 07:57 PM
I guess 50% only IF there is another trade-able cloak that's BETTER.

Hey man, armchair predictions are free. I can do them all day long.

citizen1080
03-13-2012, 11:43 PM
I would guess minimum of 1 year till Velious. They are low on staff and i would think low on caring after all the bullshit this server has thrown at them.

Regarding item worth anything that continues to drop is a poor investment. It will lose value in the long term. Manastones etc are a smart investment hence why i have a bunch.

My advice is buy what you want..enjoy your money and liquidate a few months before velious. You will have plenty of warning before it comes out.

bluejam
03-14-2012, 08:36 AM
Dire Wolf-Hide Cloak
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: BACK
AC: 8
STR: +6 STA: +6 HP: +35
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Only one that comes to mind.

Slave
03-14-2012, 02:53 PM
Dire Wolf-Hide Cloak
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: BACK
AC: 8
STR: +6 STA: +6 HP: +35
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Only one that comes to mind.

This is more a replacement for HBC than Hierophant's.

Grozmok
03-14-2012, 04:20 PM
This is more a replacement for HBC than Hierophant's.

That's what I was thinking.

Messianic
03-14-2012, 04:24 PM
Velious largely does not replace mid or mid-high range gear (i'm talking stuff like Class-set armor like Blood ember/Darkforge through planar, etc).

Kunark gear will still be fairly valuable. There are a few mid-high range items that arrive which are pretty incredible, but for the most part the lion's share of the upgrades are in the 60ish raid scene. One of the huge pluses of Velious as an expansion is that it was able to support and augment the previous expansions rather than merely replace them, as Luclin largely did.

pasi
03-15-2012, 12:50 AM
Cloak of the Maelstrom is a closer common replacement for Hiero than Direwolf cloak.

Hiero is one of the few Kunark/Old World Equip that will retain it's full value in Velious.

godbox
03-15-2012, 02:39 AM
So investing 50k into a Hierophants cloak won't make me a sucker when Velious comes out? It'll still be worth around that?

makes you a sucker now?

tekniq
03-15-2012, 04:51 PM
So investing 50k into a Hierophants cloak won't make me a sucker when Velious comes out? It'll still be worth around that?

Depends how bad you want it. Hiero cloak took a shit from 65k to I say 45k in the past few weeks. If you have the money, I still think it's a decent buy and won't be outdated when velious comes out. It's +4 to every stat (minus resists) and +75 hp/mana....what more do you want? you want to pay 200k for some velious cloak that gives you 100HP (if there even is one)? the trade-off just isn't worth it. if you want to be patient, i think you can get one for <40k in a month or so.

Grozmok
03-21-2012, 12:42 PM
So what happened to this guy, "Flash"

He sure got quiet all of a sudden.

ArumTP
03-21-2012, 03:06 PM
Naw, I saw him posting in the priest forum. Asking about if his gear is good? Suspiciously without a clue on what a good gear makes, yet having in excess of 50k of it.