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Tiggles
03-31-2012, 05:18 PM
UPDATE: GORENAIRE HAS BEEN SLAIN BY THE COMBINED EFFORTS OF THE SERVER, CONGRATS TO ALL INVOLVED, AS OF 4/3/12 GORENAIRE IS NO LONGER AN ENDANGERED SPECIES DRAGON.

Hello!

I want to share with the server TMO's new exciting conservation program!

Once a week we will be leaving a Kunark Raid mob* up and will not be slaying it.

We encourage any other guilds** Pugs or Coalitions to attempt and slay these baddies and collect the loot with in.

This weeks mob is Gorenaire (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5034) she has been up for close to 12 hours and we have already heard of some solid attempts on her by BDA and Taken good job!

Anyways keep it up we hope that this does not cause any drama and we can continue to do it.***

http://www.misterglass.net/jalbum/Everquest/slides/Gorenaire.jpg
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/e/feded36786a0ee417a1c9b4251137515.png
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/c/8/c8bd3b19684f9214f791f32420f8f052.png
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/8/1/816ac42f569baa1f811df8ab041585ff.png




*We are still kinda mad at VD and may race them to any uncontested mob
** Mobs are chosen by Officer discretion and may change with out announcement
***TMO reserves the right to cancel this promotion as they see fit with out due compensation.

SyanideGas
03-31-2012, 05:20 PM
Solid deal!

Versus
03-31-2012, 06:36 PM
Can we make it Gore every week?

Writ3r
03-31-2012, 07:04 PM
This is the type of thing i can get behind... if TMO sticks to doing this and maybe includes a classic raid mob or two with it later on (given this particular ideal continues to work out), all the better for progress of the server being fun.

Huddaan
03-31-2012, 07:07 PM
Now this sounds like an awesome idea and a great way to help out us little guys! TMO went up a level in my book.

baub
03-31-2012, 07:19 PM
i tried to restrain myself but i just don't have the willpower

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/Shaere.gif

Metallikus
03-31-2012, 08:22 PM
"Once a week we will be leaving a Kunark Raid mob* up and will not be slaying it."

Wow, that's very generous.

Harrison
03-31-2012, 08:36 PM
After the outing of their public humiliation, outlined in my signature, they are trying to save face.

Alarti0001
03-31-2012, 08:49 PM
After the outing of their public humiliation, outlined in my signature, they are trying to save face.

Lol @ harrison thinking he matters to....anyone

Fazlazen
03-31-2012, 08:51 PM
"Once a week we will be leaving a Kunark Raid mob* up and will not be slaying it."

Wow, that's very generous.

it's more than your guild got in the last month...

Zereh
03-31-2012, 09:01 PM
Lol @ harrison thinking he matters to....anyone

http://i.imgur.com/csbRw.jpg

Tiggles
03-31-2012, 09:03 PM
Lets Try and be civil this is a serious post.


Harrison, VD guys, I will make a RnF post later about this topic so you can shit that up as per normal leave this one alone its for the rest of the server.

Supaskillz
03-31-2012, 09:17 PM
I will say this is pretty cool of TMO, and being in a more casual guild love the opportunity to get a shot at it without forcing everyone to be ready in a 5 minute window.

We made an attempt this afternoon, but Gore is in my view the hardest kunark dragon and it quite tough for us especially since many of our members did not make resist gear a priority. That said we learned some things and it was a good time.

I wont scoff at this. They do not have to give us anything.

Nips
03-31-2012, 09:18 PM
i think its nice of you guys to leave up a dragon for one of the regular non competing guilds to kill, by why gorenaire? shes the hardest of the dragons and drops the shittiest of loots. why not start with sev or talendor or something?

Ssleeve
03-31-2012, 09:20 PM
i think its nice of you guys to leave up a dragon for one of the regular non competing guilds to kill, by why gorenaire? shes the hardest of the dragons and drops the shittiest of loots. why not start with sev or talendor or something?

Sounds like you answered your own question.

Lazortag
03-31-2012, 09:22 PM
This was nice of TMO, I think Gore is an ideal mob to choose because it's not very valued to the top guilds and it is a new challenge for the smaller guilds (at peak hours any of the casual guilds could kill Sev or Tal, but Gore is a different story). I think it's silly to ask them why they didn't offer anything better, Gore is fine :)

Alarti0001
03-31-2012, 09:23 PM
i think its nice of you guys to leave up a dragon for one of the regular non competing guilds to kill, by why gorenaire? shes the hardest of the dragons and drops the shittiest of loots. why not start with sev or talendor or something?

Just thought up the idea today and that was what was up. We were otw to kill gore and saw bda there so decided to go play in vp instead

Harrison
03-31-2012, 09:25 PM
it's more than your guild got in the last month...

This is the guy who argued with Amelinda that they should be allowed to exploit in VP because it's not supposed to have GM interference.

Proof is in my signature. I don't need to make things up, it's all there.

Fazlazen
03-31-2012, 09:39 PM
more lucky then exploit.

Lazortag
03-31-2012, 10:05 PM
Who got Gore in the end, and what phat lewts did she drop?

Stealin Dragons
03-31-2012, 10:13 PM
Give a starving man a hamburger and he complains it didn't come with cheese.

P99 is full of surprises.

Supaskillz
03-31-2012, 10:27 PM
Who got Gore in the end, and what phat lewts did she drop?

I think it may still be up

Dravingar
03-31-2012, 10:36 PM
This just in, no one has gave a shit about gore for the last 6 months. Noble thing to do TMO.

Paumad
03-31-2012, 10:39 PM
This just in, I can't kill Gore on Eqmac yet and am very mad.

PS: Tig, I'm sorry I trolled in your thread, I really tried.

fischsemmel
03-31-2012, 10:41 PM
This just in, no one has gave a shit about gore for the last 6 months. Noble thing to do TMO.

Pretty sure the dude who wins a RBB or DHB when Gore does die will not be complaining that TMO left her up.

Lazortag
03-31-2012, 10:43 PM
I think it may still be up

I was told otherwise. Confirm/Deny anyone?

fischsemmel
03-31-2012, 10:44 PM
I was told otherwise. Confirm/Deny anyone?

Gore was up as of ~2 hours ago, and there was no force in the zone to kill her at the time.

Rais
03-31-2012, 10:54 PM
Confirmed Gore is up and being kited atm to drain her mana.

Arteker
03-31-2012, 11:14 PM
Gore is the hardest dragon in outside kunark?. yes its but nothing stop other guilds to figth for it or form a alliance to get it .

People ahs been bitching about the raid scene for MONTHS . Now there is a real challange at ur doors and TMO is willing to give it up to see if some guild or guilds make a effort to figth and WIN her loot.


But instead of see armys gathering in DL to slay the dragon , i saw a bunch of whinners sons of jerry springer ( that goes for u harrypoyas) doing what they have been doing for months . nada but bitch in forums.

Tiggles
03-31-2012, 11:43 PM
Who got her?

AenarieFenninRo
04-01-2012, 01:37 AM
She's still up... chillin by the tunnel

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 02:58 AM
Last update before i go to bed

Gore is still up and wondering the tunnel

Dravingar
04-01-2012, 03:11 AM
Pretty sure the dude who wins a RBB or DHB when Gore does die will not be complaining that TMO left her up.

Pretty sure the dude who buys a DHB for 9k will be stoked and RBB....not a single person would ever care about that shithole belt, rog or ranger will have epic and well, warrior should have sky belt or something not as scrubby.

Also, it's not a show of goodwill when you have zero competition left on the server.

Seaweedpimp
04-01-2012, 03:19 AM
see sig failingar

Dravingar
04-01-2012, 03:23 AM
I see your sig, but I raise you the whole history of the server.

Quizy
04-01-2012, 03:41 AM
I see your sig, but I raise you the whole history of the server.

Sad to see someone so angry still...

and about people reselling the items and what they should have ? come on.. RBB and DHB would be great updrages to alot of people in TMO / VD as well still let alone other guilds that dont have as many geared numbers in the end..

It's not really a suprise to see an angry IB/TR person still raging after they had to walk away with their tail between their legs.

on topic:

I can't wait to see what the server can put together to kill raid targets given the chance and i really think the officers in TMO are doing the right thing giving up some of our regular raid targets for the good of the server..

Can't wait to hear how she gets downed and by who!!! keep it coming!

Quizy
04-01-2012, 04:17 AM
DHB for 9k? lulz. i was quoted 100k by someone the other day!

what planet are you living on?

lol thats what im saying.. sign me up for a dozen at that price!

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 04:17 AM
Pretty sure the dude who buys a DHB for 9k will be stoked and RBB....not a single person would ever care about that shithole belt, rog or ranger will have epic and well, warrior should have sky belt or something not as scrubby.

Also, it's not a show of goodwill when you have zero competition left on the server.

In summary.......waaaaaaaaaah.

Happyfeet
04-01-2012, 04:33 AM
1. Stop quoting Harrison and his clones, he's on ignore for a reason. I'm going to have to start ignoring his quoters, I think he's that ignorant.
2. Dravingar is second in command to Harrison. Posts useless/inaccurate shit on a daily basis.
3. TMO sucks. I can't believe I joined this damn guild 12 years ago.
4. I'm diamond hard.

Xeliso
04-01-2012, 04:34 AM
100% he meant DBB, oh well!

Smilkers
04-01-2012, 06:15 AM
Joining up with BDA in DL to give this a shot yesterday was a lot of fun.
I like this idea, TMO. Haters gonna hate.

SyanideGas
04-01-2012, 06:35 AM
Joining up with BDA in DL to give this a shot yesterday was a lot of fun.
I like this idea, TMO. Haters gonna hate.

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 09:42 AM
I bet a ranger in my guild Gore will be killed BEFORE Tuesday

Don't make me lose money to a ranger...

Go get her!

bridgetroll
04-01-2012, 09:55 AM
Has anyone taken out gore yet?

Paumad
04-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Explains the blind devotion to a guild caught cheating publicly, you were a faggot long before P99's existence.

Don't worry Harrison, you're still our #1 blind devot. Least Happyfeet came out of the closet.

Rali
04-01-2012, 10:54 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/29prsl3.jpg

arsenalpow
04-01-2012, 11:12 AM
the majority of level 60s on this server are in TMO (doesn't care) and VD (hiatus)

BDA made a few attempts but since we're we have mostly a casual playerbase our DPS wasn't plentiful enough (we didn't have enough 60s) we couldn't get it done

maybe BDA+Taken+Div only 55+ players could make a run at it but her fear is pretty brutal for anyone that doesn't have the levels or gear to handle it

she's easily the hardest dragon around aside from the stuff in VP

peoplestillplayp1999?
04-01-2012, 11:34 AM
Lol effort to post raid target is up and nobody but TMO really cares.

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 11:37 AM
the majority of level 60s on this server are in TMO (doesn't care) and VD (hiatus)

BDA made a few attempts but since we're we have mostly a casual playerbase our DPS wasn't plentiful enough (we didn't have enough 60s) we couldn't get it done

maybe BDA+Taken+Div only 55+ players could make a run at it but her fear is pretty brutal for anyone that doesn't have the levels or gear to handle it

she's easily the hardest dragon around aside from the stuff in VP


I doubt the majority of level 60s are in tmo.


Would you guys perfer if we killed the dragon for you and left you the the loot?

Galelor
04-01-2012, 11:48 AM
I doubt the majority of level 60s are in tmo.


Would you guys perfer if we killed the dragon for you and left you the the loot?

No.

Zapatos
04-01-2012, 11:56 AM
maybe BDA+Taken+Div only 55+ players could make a run at it

Now someone's catching on. Don't forget Acyrid though.

Pillow Armadillo
04-01-2012, 11:57 AM
I doubt the majority of level 60s are in tmo.


Would you guys perfer if we killed the dragon for you and left you the the loot?

Nothing wrong with allowing guilds to organize for multiple attempts on Gorenaire. In lieu (instead) of killing Gore to ensure that loot is distributed to whomever is present at TMO's mobilization time, why not provide support in the form of buffs and rezzes to the players who are motivated to participate in a dragon kill on this server?

Let's break down these attempts in the thread. In an earlier post, a BDA player said dps was lacking - would you attribute this to lack of damage classes or was Gore's fear incapacitating many of your players in aggro range?

Also, while I can't speak for Vesica Dei as a whole, we definitely have sympathetic players online and willing to assist where needed. Don't be shy in asking for help from anyone, regardless of guild affiliation.

arsenalpow
04-01-2012, 12:12 PM
we were lacking high level DPS for the fight, clerics and tanks were fine, i think at any given time we had 1 60 monk and 2 60 rogues, maybe had 32 people at our max attempt with maybe 12 or so being 55+

we knew it wasn't going to be the best attempt

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 12:19 PM
we were lacking high level DPS for the fight, clerics and tanks were fine, i think at any given time we had 1 60 monk and 2 60 rogues, maybe had 32 people at our max attempt with maybe 12 or so being 55+

we knew it wasn't going to be the best attempt

I would get divinity to assist you guys tbh


Also im testing the waters in guild to leave a random trakanon up. We just need to figure out how to stop vd from camping out at ledge for him.

arsenalpow
04-01-2012, 12:29 PM
I would get divinity to assist you guys tbh


Also im testing the waters in guild to leave a random trakanon up. We just need to figure out how to stop vd from camping out at ledge for him.

i think we can get him solo honestly, we just need our full force on

we've been crushing sky lately, eye will die this week, obviously gorenaire is a pretty significant step up but i have confidence in our abilities

Pillow Armadillo
04-01-2012, 12:32 PM
Also im testing the waters in guild to leave a random trakanon up. We just need to figure out how to stop vd from camping out at ledge for him.

It's easy to send a /tell to anyone in Vesica. It's not like you're unaware of the who our officers are, considering you seem to be pretty active on our private forums.

Communication would be a good start - here's a temple you could use
"hey, TMO is interested in giving GUILDNAME a chance at Trak. Could you guys cooperate with us in not engaging while GUILDNAME makes their attempts on DATE?

Stealin Dragons
04-01-2012, 12:33 PM
just tell us when you want to leave a trak up for the other guilds and we'll honour that no problems

or you could just leave a trak up anytime in the next week since we arent raiding! /bonk
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Pillow Armadillo
04-01-2012, 12:36 PM
ftfy is a new one to me :( whats it mean?

i only found out what tl:dr meant like 3 days ago. omg i need to be online more

ftfy = fixed that/this for you

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 12:37 PM
Nothing wrong with allowing guilds to organize for multiple attempts on Gorenaire. In lieu (instead) of killing Gore to ensure that loot is distributed to whomever is present at TMO's mobilization time, why not provide support in the form of buffs and rezzes to the players who are motivated to participate in a dragon kill on this server?

Let's break down these attempts in the thread. In an earlier post, a BDA player said dps was lacking - would you attribute this to lack of damage classes or was Gore's fear incapacitating many of your players in aggro range?

Also, while I can't speak for Vesica Dei as a whole, we definitely have sympathetic players online and willing to assist where needed. Don't be shy in asking for help from anyone, regardless of guild affiliation.

We offered to send a few players to assist, but were turned down as they wanted to do Gore themselves. Which is totally cool.

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 12:38 PM
i think we can get him solo honestly, we just need our full force on

we've been crushing sky lately, eye will die this week, obviously gorenaire is a pretty significant step up but i have confidence in our abilities

You guys should be fine as long as you have a majority at 59+ with MR gear. She is really just a resist check

SavageHenry
04-01-2012, 12:45 PM
I would get divinity to assist you guys tbh

Tried to but they were doing a scheduled Sky raid. Thinking Monday we'll all try this again if BDA wants help and you guys will leave her up til then :)

arsenalpow
04-01-2012, 12:47 PM
You guys should be fine as long as you have a majority at 59+ with MR gear. She is really just a resist check

ya that's our primary issue, our levels just aren't where they need to be - the trials and tribulations of a casual guild

Supaskillz
04-01-2012, 02:18 PM
The problem with out attempt was that we ended up trying to 4 man her with a 60 rogue 60 monk 60 warrior 60 cleric who actually had resist gear. The most of the rest were getting crushed very quickly by both the fear and the cold AE(for reasons of both levels and resists gear as mentioned before). I think this has given many of our members more inclination to pick up the resist gear.

I also think moment of panic on first dragon attempt might have made for some mistakes on the staff of runes usage and things of that nature, but its our guilds first shot at a dragon other than faydedar or ragefire, which lets be honest hardly count compared to the likes of Gorenaire.

All in all was fun despite the loss. Also I will say this is quite insulting and I hope was directed at the forum trolls and not our guild:


Would you guys perfer if we killed the dragon for you and left you the the loot?

Lazortag
04-01-2012, 02:26 PM
I'm busy all day but otherwise I'd have logged on to help/persuaded my guild to help.

Stealin Dragons
04-01-2012, 02:28 PM
The problem with out attempt was that we ended up trying to 4 man her with a 60 rogue 60 monk 60 warrior 60 cleric who actually had resist gear. The most of the rest were getting crushed very quickly by both the fear and the cold AE(for reasons of both levels and resists gear as mentioned before). I think this has given many of our members more inclination to pick up the resist gear.

I also think moment of panic on first dragon attempt might have made for some mistakes on the staff of runes usage and things of that nature, but its our guilds first shot at a dragon other than faydedar or ragefire, which lets be honest hardly count compared to the likes of Gorenaire.

All in all was fun despite the loss. Also I will say this is quite insulting and I hope was directed at the forum trolls and not our guild:

Don't think he meant any insults by it.

quido
04-01-2012, 02:28 PM
Thank you, Tiggles, for leaving Gorenaire up for other guilds to try. It was very noble of you to decide that TMO wasn't going to kill this one and to allow other guilds to have a shot. You are a great and generous man.

On a more serious note, where did the handful of non-TMO/VD/IB people go that were claiming that anybody could kill anything if they didn't have to race us to it and could take their time on the engage?

arsenalpow
04-01-2012, 02:29 PM
Also I will say this is quite insulting and I hope was directed at the forum trolls and not our guild:

don't pay any attention to any iggles, a bunch of soulless automatons sent to troll the world

Lazortag
04-01-2012, 02:32 PM
On a more serious note, where did the handful of non-TMO/VD/IB people go that were claiming that anybody could kill anything if they didn't have to race us to it and could take their time on the engage?

Who claimed that? I don't speak for my guild but I doubt we could kill Gore alone with our usual numbers. Possibly not Trak either. Any other mob? Yeah. There's no need to be rude about it.

Writ3r
04-01-2012, 02:33 PM
Thank you, Tiggles, for leaving Gorenaire up for other guilds to try. It was very noble of you to decide that TMO wasn't going to kill this one and to allow other guilds to have a shot. You are a great and generous man.

On a more serious note, where did the handful of non-TMO/VD/IB people go that were claiming that anybody could kill anything if they didn't have to race us to it and could take their time on the engage?

I think they all quit playing and word is still being spread about this type of thing actually being a serious endeavor.

Harrison
04-01-2012, 02:44 PM
Thank you, Tiggles, for leaving Gorenaire up for other guilds to try. It was very noble of you to decide that TMO wasn't going to kill this one and to allow other guilds to have a shot. You are a great and generous man.

On a more serious note, where did the handful of non-TMO/VD/IB people go that were claiming that anybody could kill anything if they didn't have to race us to it and could take their time on the engage?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZJgGTsQoM

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

Jeremy and his old guild exploiting Phinigel, pulling him through a wall in the first month of the server. Now he's in TMO.


And let me add that when that picture was taken, I didn't know the difference between a mezz and a lull...

Just a friendly informative post, linking to other sections of the forums, no fabrications or trolling.

quido
04-01-2012, 02:57 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:02 PM
Cheater is so mad he's spamming pictures stalked by other mad kids.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

Can't hide the fact you cheated by deflecting, baddie.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:04 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:07 PM
Cheater is so mad he's spamming pictures stalked by other mad kids.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

Can't hide the fact you cheated by deflecting, baddie.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:10 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:12 PM
Cheater is so mad he's spamming pictures stalked by other mad kids.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

Can't hide the fact you cheated by deflecting, baddie.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:13 PM
fat n gay
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:15 PM
Cheater is so mad he's spamming pictures stalked by other mad kids.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

Can't hide the fact you cheated by deflecting, baddie.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:16 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:27 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.


I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:28 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:32 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182



I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

Jeremy breaking rules just like how he cheated with Transcendence.(hence why he's mad, I keep informing the server)

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

quido
04-01-2012, 03:33 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:38 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182



I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

quido
04-01-2012, 03:41 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Zereh
04-01-2012, 03:42 PM
Harrison really just needs some love and understanding. Let's all do our best to support him in his quest for attention and validation on the forums of a game he doesn't even participate in.

*HUGS HARRISON*

We love you. Please continue to post the same SS over and over which insinuate that Amelinda incompetent. Please please don't go away. We need you.

Harrison
04-01-2012, 03:42 PM
You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

3. Make Tasteless RL attacks. (Staff discretion)

quido
04-01-2012, 03:44 PM
dumb
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Ssleeve
04-01-2012, 03:45 PM
Respect staff?

You act like this community should be appreciative of volunteer work, absurd.

Nirgon
04-01-2012, 03:46 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Supaskillz
04-01-2012, 03:53 PM
this thread is now in the wrong section of the forum

Stealin Dragons
04-01-2012, 03:56 PM
this thread is now in the wrong section of the forum

the power that harrison holds.

Smilkers
04-01-2012, 04:33 PM
Harrison, most of us have already seen those screenys quite a few times by now. We get it. Why do you have to shit up a productive thread that is in the interest of bettering our server?

Even if you don't agree with TMO's past actions, this "conservation" thing is a great idea. Gives us more casual players a chance to experience new content without gigantic amounts of stress involved. Gorenaire is a big first step, but it at least gave me perspective on the type of gear we need to be aiming for (lots and lots of resists).

Please don't fuck over a good thing, Harrison.

Xanthias
04-01-2012, 04:38 PM
I bet a ranger in my guild Gore will be killed BEFORE Tuesday

Don't make me lose money to a ranger...

Go get her!


Please wait til after Tuesday, I want Tiggles $$$

Xanthias
04-01-2012, 04:52 PM
reported for RMT xanth

Will split the winning with you? :)

Gwence
04-01-2012, 05:27 PM
they didnt start with sev and talendor because I think they might be able to kill those dragons, can't say for certain though

Cash
04-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Let's just hope this sticks and doesn't turn into... well since it took so long to kill it we aren't going to give up any other dragons (due to the fact they presented the hardest one first kind of suggests a hidden motive?). Either way it is good for the server if they continue this sort of ideal moving forward.

Faywind
04-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Let's just hope this sticks and doesn't turn into... well since it took so long to kill it we aren't going to give up any other dragons (due to the fact they presented the hardest one first kind of suggests a hidden motive?). Either way it is good for the server if they continue this sort of ideal moving forward.

How about you stop with the conspiracy theories and just be happy that this sort of thing on P99 is helping to promote other guilds to get into raiding. People like you just can't accept a nice gesture and move on, you always have to put some sort of negative spin on something when there is none to begin with.

Quizy
04-01-2012, 06:07 PM
Any word on gorenaire ?

Sapho
04-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Just make sure fay is taken out quickly in case I need to use the pots! K thx

Rais
04-01-2012, 06:12 PM
Did the bind points at KC get removed or something? Maybe that's why she is being left up.

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 06:14 PM
Did the bind points at KC get removed or something? Maybe that's why she is being left up.

Newp... and are you aware that druids and wizards can port to DL?

I love watching all the terribad players who quit come in and shitting up this thread.....

Anyways, Good luck killing gorenaire in the next couple of days. Different target this week !

Barkingturtle
04-01-2012, 06:15 PM
How about you stop with the conspiracy theories and just be happy that this sort of thing on P99 is helping to promote other guilds to get into raiding. People like you just can't accept a nice gesture and move on, you always have to put some sort of negative spin on something when there is none to begin with.

You can't really blame him for being suspicious. TMO has some history of subversive behavior and this current benevolence appears to be motivated at least minimally by a desire to taunt VD.

Honestly, EQ has always been a playground for those who fancy themselves social engineers, and there are a lot of those folks on P99. It's bound to happen in a game with such a huge requisite time investment.

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 06:19 PM
You can't really blame him for being suspicious. TMO has some history of subversive behavior and this current benevolence appears to be motivated at least minimally by a desire to taunt VD.

Honestly, EQ has always been a playground for those who fancy themselves social engineers, and there are a lot of those folks on P99. It's bound to happen in a game with such a huge requisite time investment.

.........LOL

Barkingturtle
04-01-2012, 06:20 PM
.........LOL

What's so funny?

Did you catch a glimpse of your penis in the mirror or something?

Stealin Dragons
04-01-2012, 06:23 PM
You can't really blame him for being suspicious. TMO has some history of subversive behavior and this current benevolence appears to be motivated at least minimally by a desire to taunt VD.

Honestly, EQ has always been a playground for those who fancy themselves social engineers, and there are a lot of those folks on P99. It's bound to happen in a game with such a huge requisite time investment.

or perhaps we like the other guilds on the server...


NAH.

Arteker
04-01-2012, 06:27 PM
You can't really blame him for being suspicious. TMO has some history of subversive behavior and this current benevolence appears to be motivated at least minimally by a desire to taunt VD.

Honestly, EQ has always been a playground for those who fancy themselves social engineers, and there are a lot of those folks on P99. It's bound to happen in a game with such a huge requisite time investment.

you sound like a bag full of air when got stomp. there is one fact tmo leaving alone one raid mob per week for other guilds . no one said it was easy but there is .


if u scroll this forum u can count 37 threads about people ideas to how to fix raid scene .


Well fuck. there is ur chance to raid to put time effort and blood and sweat .


and what u do? the same as always BITCH ,MOAN in a forum but dont elad by going to dl and making some attempts

Barkingturtle
04-01-2012, 06:36 PM
you sound like a bag full of air when got stomp. there is one fact tmo leaving alone one raid mob per week for other guilds . no one said it was easy but there is .


if u scroll this forum u can count 37 threads about people ideas to how to fix raid scene .


Well fuck. there is ur chance to raid to put time effort and blood and sweat .


and what u do? the same as always BITCH ,MOAN in a forum but dont elad by going to dl and making some attempts

This is hard to read because you type like an angry baby. Which is to say I think you may have pooped a lot while posting this.

Look kids, don't get so defensive. All I said was that TMO has a history of subversive behavior. There's really no denying that. To blindly trust their or anyone's rhetoric without examining the potential ramifications of their actual actions is pretty naive, guy.

Do I need to applaud TMO for tossing the server a scrap? Well huzzah, duders. A single act of benevolence doesn't just instantly make me forget prior cruel tendencies, though. And before anyone suggests it: I'm not IB, I'm not guilded; I never have been.

I do think it's a neat idea, but when the idea is delivered to the forum by a guild's chief propaganda officer I am skeptical. Simple as that and no reason to be mad bro.

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 06:38 PM
What's so funny?

Did you catch a glimpse of your penis in the mirror or something?

your unsupported assertions....which are even more by your open hostility in this post. Seems TMO isnt the problem..... it is people like you =)

While I was writing this you posted another hostile thread instead of explaining yourself. TMO hasn't been subversive you just post unsupported assertions and claim they are fact.

Your attitude makes it fairly clear why you aren't guilded.

kazroth
04-01-2012, 06:39 PM
when the idea is delivered to the forum by a guild's chief propaganda officer I am skeptical.
Also had me wondering what the real motive was here...

Still love you Alarti, but damn, you guys need a better forum presence.

Barkingturtle
04-01-2012, 06:55 PM
your unsupported assertions....which are even more by your open hostility in this post. Seems TMO isnt the problem..... it is people like you =)

While I was writing this you posted another hostile thread instead of explaining yourself. TMO hasn't been subversive you just post unsupported assertions and claim they are fact.

Your attitude makes it fairly clear why you aren't guilded.

I apologize if you feel threatened by my tone. I'm not nice, I know.

I think I've explained myself adequately, too. If there's something you're failing to understand I'm not obligated to hold your grimy baby hand and guide you through it and I don't need to link proof. Just search Tiggles' posts. Sorry bud, your friends are not trustworthy.

Look, I play five or six hours a week, maybe. I take breaks that last months, because I just forget to log on. Sometimes my mule will sit in the tunnel all day, but that hardly counts as playing because in the real world I'm mostly just working or playing with my balls. I suppose my attitude does make clear why I'm not guilded though, because my attitude is that I play P99 too casually to even hint to others they can rely on me.

Stealin Dragons
04-01-2012, 06:58 PM
I apologize if you feel threatened by my tone. I'm not nice, I know.

I think I've explained myself adequately, too. If there's something you're failing to understand I'm not obligated to hold your grimy baby hand and guide you through it and I don't need to link proof. Just search Tiggles' posts. Sorry bud, your friends are not trustworthy.

Look, I play five or six hours a week, maybe. I take breaks that last months, because I just forget to log on. Sometimes my mule will sit in the tunnel all day, but that hardly counts as playing because in the real world I'm mostly just working or playing with my balls. I suppose my attitude does make clear why I'm not guilded though, because my attitude is that I play P99 too casually to even hint to others they can rely on me.

We had already given up Gore before Tiggle's posted it.

He just made it public to everyone instead of a few guilds.

Zenlina
04-01-2012, 07:00 PM
by a guild's chief propaganda officer I am skeptical. Simple as that and no reason to be mad bro.

Cant be helped, even though he hardly plays, he trolls ours forums and post stuff up here without consent, but its free speech so we let em do what they want.

Make no mistake tho, 80% of the tmo post here are from members that hardly even play in game, and all the other trolls trolling back dont play too. Plus this is server chat, i am unsure why they havent banned those spammers yet...

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 07:02 PM
ugh this thread went bad quickly!

It's ok

I am a terrible human being and a forum troll and I love causing drama

But leaving Gore up for other guilds is still a cool idea imo and I hope to keep leaving targets up for other guilds to kill.

Verenity
04-01-2012, 07:02 PM
We had already given up Gore before Tiggle's posted it.

He just made it public to everyone instead of a few guilds.

QFT. We were already informed before this was posted on the forums.

kazroth
04-01-2012, 07:04 PM
Cant be helped, even though he hardly plays, he trolls ours forums and post stuff up here without consent, but its free speech so we let em do what they want.

But why? You have to realize that every one of us forum readers not in your guild are forced to take these people as your spokesmen.

Then I have to wonder whether you guys just don't care, or if posts like Alarti's and yours can be trusted.

Danyelle
04-01-2012, 07:07 PM
I am actually

Barkingturtle
04-01-2012, 07:11 PM
Cant be helped, even though he hardly plays, he trolls ours forums and post stuff up here without consent, but its free speech so we let em do what they want.

You guys might be well served to state this explicitly from time-to-time. I browse forums way more than I get to play, and to me Tiggles is the voice of your guild. He makes you look like giddy teenagers who derive more gratification from negatively impacting the experiences of others than anything else.

Really though folks, I recognize the value of this charity even if an ulterior motive is in place. At least people who don't ever get the opportunity to kill this dragon will get a shot. That's neat. TMO's just hard to trust, is all I'm sayin'. They're like the Don Draper of P99, except paler and less manly. Probably more like the Charlie Sheen of P99, really.

Zenlina
04-01-2012, 07:12 PM
up to your discretion, action speaks louder then words and that is what these forums are for, words. Most the time in game you dont see any of it, only thing you see is what they post on here. Even those SS are misleading. At the end of the day it only matters to those that are actually playing in game, and from what i have seen of late is harmony with all guilds and everyone giving each other a helping hand when needed.

Metallikus
04-01-2012, 07:12 PM
pretty sure there is a TMO monk in zone that hasnt cleared his agro from gorenaire who stands up from FD before each of your engages to call FTE if you actually kill gorenaire. Good April fools joke tho TMO. Brilliant disguising it as charity.

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 07:14 PM
But why? You have to realize that every one of us forum readers not in your guild are forced to take these people as your spokesmen.

Then I have to wonder whether you guys just don't care, or if posts like Alarti's and yours can be trusted.

You can look at a persons previous post and decide what kind of poster they are. Its how I decide if someone is legit or a troll or just a crazy tinfoil mad-hatter

kazroth
04-01-2012, 07:15 PM
up to your discretion, action speaks louder then words and that is what these forums are for, words. Most the time in game you dont see any of it, only thing you see is what they post on here. Even those SS are misleading. At the end of the day it only matters to those that are actually playing in game, and from what i have seen of late is harmony with all guilds and everyone giving each other a helping hand when needed.

And you don't think the words on these forums affect the actions of those in game? /boggle

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Cant be helped, even though he hardly plays, he trolls ours forums and post stuff up here without consent, but its free speech so we let em do what they want.

Make no mistake tho, 80% of the tmo post here are from members that hardly even play in game, and all the other trolls trolling back dont play too. Plus this is server chat, i am unsure why they havent banned those spammers yet...

whaaatt?

I play more then you!

Alarti0001
04-01-2012, 07:17 PM
pretty sure there is a TMO monk in zone that hasnt cleared his agro from gorenaire who stands up from FD before each of your engages to call FTE if you actually kill gorenaire. Good April fools joke tho TMO. Brilliant disguising it as charity.

What pills are you on lol

Metallikus
04-01-2012, 07:25 PM
What pills are you on lol

Dude, it's all that bullshit yall bring to the table everytime we compete that has us all burned out of the raiding scene. Compete honorably and I think the server would rejoice. We need to change the environment for everyone's sanity.

Maze513
04-01-2012, 07:25 PM
VD already petitioned to find out

Zenlina
04-01-2012, 07:27 PM
whaaatt?

I play more then you!

Although i know you trolling me...

even tho i went holidays i am still above you on the the 30 days %

Metallikus
04-01-2012, 07:29 PM
na, we are hands off on dragons for 2 weeks.

quido
04-01-2012, 07:36 PM
pretty sure there is a TMO monk in zone that hasnt cleared his agro from gorenaire who stands up from FD before each of your engages to call FTE if you actually kill gorenaire. Good April fools joke tho TMO. Brilliant disguising it as charity.

LOL!

This is the most fucking retarded shit I have ever heard.

Hastley
04-01-2012, 07:49 PM
As usual metallikus / anthrax confirmed mad...

quido
04-01-2012, 07:56 PM
You would be fearing Gorenaire if you looked like this.
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/realjeremy.jpg

Tiggles
04-01-2012, 08:44 PM
Although i know you trolling me...

even tho i went holidays i am still above you on the the 30 days %

Pretty easy when your unemployed



now i'm trolling you

Lorraine
04-01-2012, 09:14 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3231/12345zb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/12345zb.jpg/)

Versus
04-01-2012, 10:54 PM
Newsflash:

There is no evil ulterior motive here. The simple facts are that with no competition at the moment, it's raining loot in TMO-ville and a lot of it is being banked or given to alts. Therefore, /gasp.... good will. Just because P99 raid scene has been a cesspool for the past year with all the cutthroat competition doesn't mean yall have to be pessimists when the goin' gets good.

Crazyeye
04-01-2012, 11:17 PM
Dude, it's all that bullshit yall bring to the table everytime we compete that has us all burned out of the raiding scene. Compete honorably and I think the server would rejoice. We need to change the environment for everyone's sanity.

We know that nothing we say or do can take away the pain. We know that grief cannot be fixed with a gift or flowers. We can't imagine what you are going through.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7wFdpxLoV1M/S8zh8K_69tI/AAAAAAAAAA4/Yut4POFZcQ4/s1600/all-babies-have-big-mouths-but-not-as-much-as-this-baby.

Harrison
04-02-2012, 12:48 AM
LOL!

This is the most fucking retarded shit I have ever heard.


And let me add that when that picture was taken, I didn't know the difference between a mezz and a lull...

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

You were saying, TMO zergling?

quido
04-02-2012, 12:50 AM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

yaaaflow
04-02-2012, 12:54 AM
Confirming that Jeremy literally wouldn't have known anything shady was going on in the above ss. At the time me and Jeremy were basically the only dudes using Oggok to XP/farm 1500pp/hr so we talked a lot and he was completely new to EQ. Dude was totally fucking proud that they were killing Phinny on the regular, he didn't know shit about exploiting at the time.

Fazlazen
04-02-2012, 01:50 AM
Confirming that Jeremy literally wouldn't have known anything shady was going on in the above ss. At the time me and Jeremy were basically the only dudes using Oggok to XP/farm 1500pp/hr so we talked a lot and he was completely new to EQ. Dude was totally fucking proud that they were killing Phinny on the regular, he didn't know shit about exploiting at the time.

jeremy was feeding his shaman pet food. true story

Paumad
04-02-2012, 03:08 AM
You would be fearing Gorenaire if you looked like this.
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/realjeremy.jpg

Oh this just made my day.

Harrison
04-02-2012, 03:41 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg

You were saying?

Are you mad TMO? That one of your players is now publicly known as an exploiter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZJgGTsQoM

There's the video of Jeremy and his guild, pulling Phinny through the floors. (an exploit)

quido
04-02-2012, 03:47 AM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Harrison
04-02-2012, 03:53 AM
TMO Now supporting racism in their guild.

[03:52] zarina_> A lot of people are ******s for true.
[03:52] Stealin> agreed

quido
04-02-2012, 03:56 AM
ignorant
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

Raavak
04-02-2012, 09:24 AM
Wolf's Eye Platinum Necklace 9MR
Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet x2 7MR ea
Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring x2 13MR ea

SCB
04-02-2012, 09:58 AM
Posting before this is moved to RnF

Raavak
04-02-2012, 11:15 AM
Go for MR. Die fighting rather than running.

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 11:16 AM
Wolf's Eye Platinum Necklace 9MR
Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet x2 7MR ea
Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring x2 13MR ea

Earring of essence, null potion, crown of king tranix = +55 mr

Versus
04-02-2012, 11:32 AM
bards

Ambrotos
04-02-2012, 11:32 AM
If Gore is still up tonight, maybe I can convince Amelinda to make a GM event out of it. WHO KNOWS?!

falkun
04-02-2012, 11:34 AM
bards

While I'd like to agree for job security reasons, moving bard songs to the buff window really impairs the ability to dispell staff the debuff off you. But ya, bard MR is pretty OP.

Raavak
04-02-2012, 11:35 AM
Just give bards to the wizards and healers. Who cares about melee ;-)

Lazortag
04-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Bards give 166 MR at level 60 with a naggy drum. That seems pretty alright.

Fazlazen
04-02-2012, 11:39 AM
While I'd like to agree for job security reasons, moving bard songs to the buff window really impairs the ability to dispell staff the debuff off you. But ya, bard MR is pretty OP.

Not really, just start playing your tunes before your group members click their first 2 buff slots and dont stop playing them, they will keep their position.

bylbob
04-02-2012, 11:41 AM
LVL > MR, wich I think is the issue for most guilds that tried it.
If you are under 55/56 or so you will never resist anything, getting resist gear will be pointless so go full hp.

Lazortag
04-02-2012, 12:18 PM
Not really, just start playing your tunes before your group members click their first 2 buff slots and dont stop playing them, they will keep their position.

Not if the Bard gets feared and his songs get interrupted, although the chance of that is fairly small..

falkun
04-02-2012, 12:53 PM
Or a member gets out of range, or this or that. There are lots of different "what ifs", is it really worth it trying to cover them all? While it may be "unclassic", I was simply pointing out the fact that it was easier to manage debuffs when the bard songs were not in the same window as the the debuffs.

Amelinda
04-02-2012, 01:20 PM
If Gore is still up tonight, maybe I can convince Amelinda to make a GM event out of it. WHO KNOWS?!

I will likely not be around early in the evening. depending on how my evening goes I MIGHT be around later. if so then sure. Maybe we can have an event. I can't promise anything though!! if not tonight then tomorrow if she still lives we can look into doing something. :)

While I'd like to agree for job security reasons, moving bard songs to the buff window really impairs the ability to dispell staff the debuff off you. But ya, bard MR is pretty OP.

That's classic tho!! We didn't use those staffs on my server on live and we killed gorenaire. bards were helpful in keeping resists up :)

Or a member gets out of range, or this or that. There are lots of different "what ifs", is it really worth it trying to cover them all? While it may be "unclassic", I was simply pointing out the fact that it was easier to manage debuffs when the bard songs were not in the same window as the the debuffs.

oops. you made my point here :)

Paumad
04-02-2012, 01:25 PM
It sure gets messy when you start dispelling your group while trying to keep your resist songs slots down the buffline, better not have to many missed notes :/ (yeah...give us back our songbox QQ).

Metallikus
04-02-2012, 04:32 PM
Why would you work a GM event around a random mob that a player guild left up for other guilds to attempt? GM events usually include a GM spawned mob not one that is up every week already. You should keep your noses out of this "special event" imo.

Seems liek you would want to save your precious guide time for changing everyone into unicorns, searching for names to change, or bitching in worldwide chat about some random petition you answered. Remember to keep a close eye on those possible exploiters in black burrow.

achtung
04-02-2012, 04:37 PM
Why would you work a GM event around a random mob that a player guild left up for other guilds to attempt? GM events usually include a GM spawned mob not one that is up every week already. You should keep your noses out of this "special event" imo.

Seems liek you would want to save your precious guide time for changing everyone into unicorns, searching for names to change, or bitching in worldwide chat about some random petition you answered. Remember to keep a close eye on those possible exploiters in black burrow.

Ow negativity

Messianic
04-02-2012, 04:39 PM
Ungrateful douchery

Hello there polly positive

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 04:39 PM
Why would you work a GM event around a random mob that a player guild left up for other guilds to attempt? GM events usually include a GM spawned mob not one that is up every week already. You should keep your noses out of this "special event" imo.

Seems liek you would want to save your precious guide time for changing everyone into unicorns, searching for names to change, or bitching in worldwide chat about some random petition you answered. Remember to keep a close eye on those possible exploiters in black burrow.

Get your shitty attitude off the server already

Zapatos
04-02-2012, 04:46 PM
IB leaves the server, VD takes a 2 week hiatus, TMO leaves a mob up as a 'gift' to the server that potentially prompts a gm event and are hailed as heros.

Really?

There's just so much I don't even...

(edit: not to say letting other guilds get a chance is bad, that's awesome. and so is gm events. it's just all the stuff that's being ignored and left behind. anyways have fun)

Labyrrinth
04-02-2012, 04:48 PM
What are you trying to say?

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 04:55 PM
Why would you work a GM event around a random mob that a player guild left up for other guilds to attempt? GM events usually include a GM spawned mob not one that is up every week already. You should keep your noses out of this "special event" imo.

Seems liek you would want to save your precious guide time for changing everyone into unicorns, searching for names to change, or bitching in worldwide chat about some random petition you answered. Remember to keep a close eye on those possible exploiters in black burrow.

IB leaves the server, VD takes a 2 week hiatus, TMO leaves a mob up as a 'gift' to the server that potentially prompts a gm event and are hailed as heros.

Really?

There's just so much I don't even...

(edit: not to say letting other guilds get a chance is bad, that's awesome. and so is gm events. it's just all the stuff that's being ignored and left behind. anyways have fun)


Look at it this way there has been 2 sides to the raid wars. Tmo an ib/vd.....we both made accusations some supported by facts and some not.
But IB is gone and VD revealed themselves (or at least their leaders at the time) as to how they wanted to play.
TMO has countless times stated we would share mobs esp the ones we don't need, where ib's strategy since day one was one of loot denail to other guilds.

So you are surprised when tmo lives up to their word?

Tmo has been one thing since they started here...consistent. we are against cheating/hacking etc... and the facts prove it. You just need to separate fact from rnf fiction

Metallikus
04-02-2012, 05:14 PM
That would be well and good except for every time someone tries to do something constructive there are 15 full time TMO trolls shitting up every thread.

I'm willing to move forward and never say a damned word against tmo again if they have indeed miraculously changed their ways.

Offers hand*

Tiggles
04-02-2012, 05:16 PM
IB leaves the server, VD takes a 2 week hiatus, TMO leaves a mob up as a 'gift' to the server that potentially prompts a gm event and are hailed as heros.

Really?

There's just so much I don't even...

(edit: not to say letting other guilds get a chance is bad, that's awesome. and so is gm events. it's just all the stuff that's being ignored and left behind. anyways have fun)


Zapatos server first full loam set druid.

Tiggles
04-02-2012, 05:16 PM
That would be well and good except for every time someone tries to do something constructive there are 15 full time TMO trolls shitting up every thread.

I'm willing to move forward and never say a damned word against tmo again if they have indeed miraculously changed their ways.

Offers hand*

Accept*

Ambrotos
04-02-2012, 05:18 PM
The fact that there would be a .01% chance of it happening, I wouldn't stress over it.

I think Unicorns are gay. I refuse to turn anyone into unicorns.

Tiggles
04-02-2012, 05:19 PM
The fact that there would be a .01% chance of it happening, I wouldn't stress over it.

I think Unicorns are gay. I refuse to turn anyone into unicorns.

Yet you turn me into a high elf....

Zapatos
04-02-2012, 05:23 PM
Ok here's an idea. How about tmo voluntarily steps back from the whole raid scene (VP, ragefire aside) until April 10th, in solidarity with vd?

What do you have to lose, except more bank loot?

Epic pieces? If that's such a big deal then just host raids and keep those on reserve while you stand back and buff/rez with a few players.

If you wanna be good guys... then be good guys.

edit: and tiggles, the loam is on a wizard, not on a druid. But if that's a server first full set then i'll gladdly accept that recognition.

falkun
04-02-2012, 05:24 PM
TMO has countless times stated we would share mobs esp the ones we don't need, where ib's strategy since day one was one of loot denail to other guilds.

So you are surprised when tmo lives up to their word?

Tmo has been one thing since they started here...consistent. we are against cheating/hacking etc... and the facts prove it. You just need to separate fact from rnf fiction
First off this isn't a thread about hacking/cheating, so I fail to see the relevance of that line. The test of your consistency is debunked by your exclusion of VD in the OP.

*We are still kinda mad at VD and may race them to any uncontested mob
** Mobs are chosen by Officer discretion and may change with out announcement
***TMO reserves the right to cancel this promotion as they see fit with out due compensation.


You say IB's strategy was loot denial, but yet here you are claiming to deny loot to a guild that has voluntarily disregarded all dragons. And your previous efforts in VP while raid suspended also debunk your claim.

Look, I'm glad the test of the server gets a shot at gore, but let's not spread lies here.

quido
04-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Zapatos, stop crying. We don't care if you or anyone else likes or dislikes us for doing what we do. Right now what we want to do and are choosing to do is to not be cutthroat on every single target. We don't have to do anything. We have nothing to prove to you and honestly couldn't care less if you don't like our style. Have fun with Gore for now, or don't... but stop bitching.

Stealin Dragons
04-02-2012, 05:29 PM
First off this isn't a thread about hacking/cheating, so I fail to see the relevance of that line. The test of your consistency is debunked by your exclusion of VD in the OP.


You say IB's strategy was loot denial, but yet here you are claiming to deny loot to a guild that has voluntarily disregarded all dragons. And your previous efforts in VP while raid suspended also debunk your claim.

Look, I'm glad the test of the server gets a shot at gore, but let's not spread lies here.

IB and VD raided as one for 6months.

TMO treated them as 1 raid guild.

We weren't going to let VD (half of the raid guild) have free run of VP.

We've been pretty consistent towards VD. This isn't some secret that just had light shed on it. WE. TMO. DO. NOT. LIKE. VD's. CORE.

VD has stopped going for raid targets for a reason other than, hey guys, let's give back to the server.

I think it's pretty obvious why you guys have taken a break.

As for TMO, the guild loves to raid. I think giving up 1 raid target a week of their choosing is a great start. I am also sure others (non VD or IB) would agree as well. However, I am sure TMO could always change it's mind if people don't like it.

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 05:47 PM
Ok here's an idea. How about tmo voluntarily steps back from the whole raid scene (VP, ragefire aside) until April 10th, in solidarity with vd?

What do you have to lose, except more bank loot?

Epic pieces? If that's such a big deal then just host raids and keep those on reserve while you stand back and buff/rez with a few players.

If you wanna be good guys... then be good guys.

edit: and tiggles, the loam is on a wizard, not on a druid. But if that's a server first full set then i'll gladdly accept that recognition.

Huh? yes we want epic pieces. Our members apped joined and raided with us to earn their pieces/loots. It is an asinine proposition to say we should not reward them with lots of raids and lots of loots. We still need epic pieces from lots of mobs and loots from lots of mobs.
We don't have to give you raid targets this is a gift out our own genorosity.

Why would we raid with other guilds? Other guilds want to do the kills themselves. We enjoy raiding. You second proposition to host raids is no different then people following us around for rott loot.

We play the game for our community and to be the best raiders. Now that we aren't disputed we can be more generous, but other guilds should definitely earn their own kills.

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 05:50 PM
First off this isn't a thread about hacking/cheating, so I fail to see the relevance of that line. The test of your consistency is debunked by your exclusion of VD in the OP.


You say IB's strategy was loot denial, but yet here you are claiming to deny loot to a guild that has voluntarily disregarded all dragons. And your previous efforts in VP while raid suspended also debunk your claim.

Look, I'm glad the test of the server gets a shot at gore, but let's not spread lies here.

IB/VD were one raid team... just calling a duck, a duck.
IB's strategy was loot denial to all guilds. Ours was just loot winning. We just recently got to the point where we dont need most loots from Kunark dragons. IB was loot denying for months without needing loots from classic mobs pre-kunark, they continued to brag about it on the forums once kunark was released and still chased those mobs to deny others.

If you are going to try to debunk me.... at least do it properly. Just saying debunked me doesn;t mean you did.

Grozmok
04-02-2012, 06:13 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/nholmes/prelude/92be7bf5.jpg

Stealin Dragons
04-02-2012, 10:31 PM
Gratz guilds that killed Gore!

Labyrrinth
04-02-2012, 10:40 PM
YAY and grats!!!!!

Spitty
04-02-2012, 10:56 PM
There's three guilds that must have killed an endangered species...cause they got FINE written all over 'em.

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 10:58 PM
It was an awesome battle to watch !

Smilkers
04-02-2012, 11:16 PM
lots of fun today. glad we finally got her down !

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/Smilkers/apr02_gore02.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/Smilkers/apr02_gore.jpg

< Acyrid >, < BDA >, < Taken >

quido
04-02-2012, 11:18 PM
Grats everybody! That's so awesome you took that slut down!

Arillious
04-02-2012, 11:26 PM
Admittingly... I only read a few posts on this thread so I don't know how this thread ultimately trended. I do not know how anyone not in the top guild can stand playing on a blue eq server. You guys are like the Scots in Braveheart(besides Wallace) being happy about getting the scraps off Longshanks table. It's pretty damn pathetic.

Been wondering about that shadowy area between your legs? Yeah.. that's where your balls used to be.

Spitty
04-02-2012, 11:30 PM
Hey, look, I am in a screenshot. Fancy that.

Versus
04-02-2012, 11:36 PM
What'd she drop?

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 11:43 PM
Rbb Scale Horn

Alarti0001
04-02-2012, 11:43 PM
new target this round of spawns

Nips
04-02-2012, 11:46 PM
How many peeps did you guys have?
And congrats

SyanideGas
04-03-2012, 12:01 AM
had like 103 in zone

Glitterati
04-03-2012, 12:09 AM
I had fun. Less QQ more dragon slaying imo.

Tiggles
04-03-2012, 12:12 AM
How awesome is that guys!!!!

Congrats on the loot!

Cash
04-03-2012, 12:37 AM
so with 3 guilds how did the loot get distributed especially with 103 or so?

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 12:38 AM
so with 3 guilds how did the loot get distributed especially with 103 or so?

only like 83 and I think each guild rolled on 1 loot... correct me if Im wrong

bizzum
04-03-2012, 12:41 AM
so with 3 guilds how did the loot get distributed especially with 103 or so?

I think taking down the hardest outdoor dragon was the real reward. Grats on it guys.

Glitterati
04-03-2012, 12:47 AM
Guild leaders rolled to see who would pick first. Then the spells were rolled upon by anybody in corresponding classes who needed them.

Sickle
04-03-2012, 01:19 AM
Cool Idea, props to TMO. I got slay a Kunark dragon today and thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Hitpoint
04-03-2012, 01:57 AM
Yea that was seriously fun. There was about 90 people between the three guilds (taken, acyrid, bda) maybe a little less. And like people said before, the 3 guild leaders rolled for first and second pick on loot, and the spells were rolled on by people who can use.

Cant wait for the video.

Matalus
04-03-2012, 02:13 AM
Thanks TMO for leaving a mob up for the server to kill.

Enygma
04-03-2012, 02:52 AM
Congrats guys! glad you all had fun great team work!!

<3 to all that enjoyed themselves.

Silentone
04-03-2012, 03:09 AM
gratz guys looked epic =)

Supaskillz
04-03-2012, 03:40 AM
was good time. Cant say it was the cleanest way to do it, but glad to get revenge nonetheless

Aquelin
04-03-2012, 05:06 AM
Nicely done all, congrats :)!!

Aata
04-03-2012, 06:13 AM
It was awesome fun, p99 already moving in a better direction, thanks to all involved.

maverixdamighty
04-03-2012, 06:39 AM
only like 83 and I think each guild rolled on 1 loot... correct me if Im wrong

died on the 2nd attempt? i saw the first one and figured it was only a matter of time with 90 ppl. gratz on the loots.

Visual
04-03-2012, 06:43 AM
good job guys

Maze513
04-03-2012, 07:16 AM
And There Was Much Rejoicing

fischsemmel
04-03-2012, 07:51 AM
Nice of Gore to drop a RBB for you guys =D

arsenalpow
04-03-2012, 07:54 AM
Lots of corpses lol. The initial fear was hilarious, I saw only level 59-60 folks hitting on her for the first 15-20 secs.

rordell
04-03-2012, 08:06 AM
well done people, way to stick to it!!

Mystro
04-03-2012, 08:55 AM
Grats on kill guys!!

Lol at tmo trying to salvage whatever reputation they have left.

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 09:02 AM
so with 3 guilds how did the loot get distributed especially with 103 or so?

Grats on kill guys!!

Lol at tmo trying to salvage whatever reputation they have left.

we dont need a reputations we are uncontested top dogs and have a flood of apps.

Stop being mad VD

Mystro
04-03-2012, 09:16 AM
we dont need a reputations we are uncontested top dogs and have a flood of apps.

Stop being mad VD

Sorry TMO forum troll#1539, who are you again?

How does this post have anything to do being mad?. You troll's are funny with all the "you mad bro" posts, don't hate cause society rejected you.

Enygma
04-03-2012, 09:41 AM
Sorry TMO forum troll#1539, who are you again?

How does this post have anything to do being mad?. You troll's are funny with all the "you mad bro" posts, don't hate cause society rejected you.

Dear Mystro,

You lost, you're bad, you're butt hurt from all the anal rape from skeletor and her toys... we get that. Stop QQing on Server Chat and bring it to RnF or just disapear like the rest of your chronies.

Sincerely yours,

The Universe.

Cash
04-03-2012, 09:43 AM
Yeah and who says i am in VD, assumptions like that would point in the direction to you being mad bruh.... stop while you're ahead with these types of actions of positivity and quiet your mouth of the trollin

Someone said 103 in zone and 3 guilds combined an honest question of how loot was distributed is not a big deal.

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 09:58 AM
Yeah and who says i am in VD, assumptions like that would point in the direction to you being mad bruh.... stop while you're ahead with these types of actions of positivity and quiet your mouth of the trollin

Someone said 103 in zone and 3 guilds combined an honest question of how loot was distributed is not a big deal.

Sorry I quoted 2 people some how....not sure how but know that you were not intended to be in my quote

Mystro
04-03-2012, 10:00 AM
Dear Mystro,

You lost, you're bad, you're butt hurt from all the anal rape from skeletor and her toys... we get that. Stop QQing on Server Chat and bring it to RnF or just disapear like the rest of your chronies.

Sincerely yours,

The Universe.

I see no QQing here troll.. I was congratulating the guilds on the Gore kill, and stating the obivious..

Guess there's no point to reason with trolls. Good day

Barkingturtle
04-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Grats guilds, cool stuff.

The cooperation is reminiscent of my actual EQ classic experience, which is nice. Good luck next week.

Writ3r
04-03-2012, 10:12 AM
I am kind of anxious to see what the target will be week to week and what guild(s) will take the initiative to snag it. The cooperation is definitely nice to see as well as the fact of people HAVING FUN (considering this is a game after all) without there being any unnecessary dramatic behavior in game.

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 10:18 AM
I am kind of anxious to see what the target will be week to week and what guild(s) will take the initiative to snag it. The cooperation is definitely nice to see as well as the fact of people HAVING FUN (considering this is a game after all) without there being any unnecessary dramatic behavior in game.

No matter what target it is this round, it is guaranteed to be significantly easier. So I wonder what guild will get it

Tiggles
04-03-2012, 10:20 AM
Question is now..


If we leave up talendor

Do you group up with 100 people or try and kill him with just your guild for more loot?

Do you race or compete agaisnt other guilds now?

falkun
04-03-2012, 10:21 AM
No matter what target it is this round, it is guaranteed to be significantly easier. So I wonder what guild will get it

Besides VP, it all pretty much is downhill from Gore. She's a beast. Still looking forward to the days when mobs can have >32khps. Burn fests aren't as much fun and I do not feel rush tactics are as exciting as the preparation for protracted engagements.

falkun
04-03-2012, 10:23 AM
Question is now..


If we leave up talendor

Do you group up with 100 people or try and kill him with just your guild for more loot?

Do you race or compete agaisnt other guilds now?

From VD's point of view of other guilds trying him while IB/TMO were on VP-lock, my first recommendation is to learn how to pull him without getting tons of adds. Good luck with whatever mob TMO does leave up!

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 10:27 AM
Besides VP, it all pretty much is downhill from Gore. She's a beast. Still looking forward to the days when mobs can have >32khps. Burn fests aren't as much fun and I do not feel rush tactics are as exciting as the preparation for protracted engagements.

This 100%, 32k is boring...I'm awaiting the days of aggro and mana management

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 11:46 AM
who cares how much hp they have.

EQ raiding = snorefest.

falkun
04-03-2012, 12:03 PM
who cares how much hp they have.

EQ raiding = snorefest.

Devil's advocate: Then why are you here? There are lots of MMOs with more developed raiding.

quido
04-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Stealin, you're so emo.

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 12:11 PM
Devil's advocate: Then why are you here? There are lots of MMOs with more developed raiding.

ya kno, like, raiding against another guild, ya know, the thrill of snagging and tagging first, ya kno, like, training in vp ya know, like counter training in vp so shit still dies.

EQ raiding like everyone else wants, the lets all take an hour to prepare to kill a dragon (forming up, buffing, getting the strat ready, etc), is beyond boring to me. The raid targets at best have maybe 10 different things they do (at best). At most, any given raid member has about 5 things they have to worry about after they are equipped properly.

I have recently started logging in less since IB has quit, even more so when VD gave up all hope in VP.

That is why I was here. What about you? Why are you here if the raiding scene is the way it was? Why join a raiding scene that was something that fit my needs but wasn't to your liking?

BlackTriad
04-03-2012, 12:14 PM
I ran by her Sunday evening on my first trip through the DL on P99 very surprised to see her up and found that she is warmly to my toon.

It's just too bad that it just won't last forever. Sorry Miss Gore, I'm taken.

Paumad
04-03-2012, 12:14 PM
ya kno, like, raiding against another guild, ya know, the thrill of snagging and tagging first, ya kno, like, training in vp ya know, like counter training in vp so shit still dies.

EQ raiding like everyone else wants, the lets all take an hour to prepare to kill a dragon (forming up, buffing, getting the strat ready, etc), is beyond boring to me. The raid targets at best have maybe 10 different things they do (at best). At most, any given raid member has about 5 things they have to worry about after they are equipped properly.

I have recently started logging in less since IB has quit, even more so when VD gave up all hope in VP.

That is why I was here. What about you? Why are you here if the raiding scene is the way it was? Why join a raiding scene that was something that fit my needs but wasn't to your liking?

I want to give you a hug, because I care, and understand.

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 12:16 PM
Stealin, you're so emo.

:(

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 12:23 PM
being happy about getting the scraps off Longshanks table. It's pretty damn pathetic.

Yup, my thoughts exactly. Blue will probably get zero attention (read: server restarts) until Red gets their shit sorted by Rogean and Co.

falkun
04-03-2012, 12:28 PM
That is why I was here. What about you? Why are you here if the raiding scene is the way it was? Why join a raiding scene that was something that fit my needs but wasn't to your liking?

I didn't start raiding until Velious, which I didn't get to until after Luclin was released. So I'm taking this opportunity to see content I haven't seen before, while it is "difficult" to do so. Yes, I could make a character on EZ and be clearing VP in a few hours, but that's nowhere near representative of the zone the way the original developers intended it.

Do I think this server is a perfect representation of the original developer's intentions? No. Do I think its the best available without owning a Mac? Yes.

Besides not knowing the raiding scene was as bad as it was before starting ("the real game isn't anywhere near as bad as the forums make them out to be"), I stuck around because EQMac was not planned to go F2P, I don't have plans to buy a Mac, and I thought I might be able to do some actual good for the server. My version of "good" obviously doesn't gel with your version of "good".

If you are looking for the competition side of things, the tagging a mob before another person/guild and winning, why don't you play WoW's BGs? Arathi Basin is all about tagging the post before another person, and you have the actual ability to engage that person.

fischsemmel
04-03-2012, 12:37 PM
Admittingly... I only read a few posts on this thread so I don't know how this thread ultimately trended. I do not know how anyone not in the top guild can stand playing on a blue eq server. You guys are like the Scots in Braveheart(besides Wallace) being happy about getting the scraps off Longshanks table. It's pretty damn pathetic.

Been wondering about that shadowy area between your legs? Yeah.. that's where your balls used to be.

Yup, my thoughts exactly. Blue will probably get zero attention (read: server restarts) until Red gets their shit sorted by Rogean and Co.

Groz, I'm pretty sure Arillious was talking about the non-TMO guilds and TMO, not about red and blue.

And Arillious, good job insulting the entire server (sans TMO) based on the OBVIOUSLY faulty assumption that no one has fun on p99 unless they are killing raid mobs.

bylbob
04-03-2012, 12:37 PM
ya kno, like, raiding against another guild, ya know, the thrill of snagging and tagging first, ya kno, like, training in vp ya know, like counter training in vp so shit still dies.

EQ raiding like everyone else wants, the lets all take an hour to prepare to kill a dragon (forming up, buffing, getting the strat ready, etc), is beyond boring to me. The raid targets at best have maybe 10 different things they do (at best). At most, any given raid member has about 5 things they have to worry about after they are equipped properly.

I have recently started logging in less since IB has quit, even more so when VD gave up all hope in VP.

That is why I was here. What about you? Why are you here if the raiding scene is the way it was? Why join a raiding scene that was something that fit my needs but wasn't to your liking?

You can only blame yourself for that, by yourself i mean you guild, some of your members went completly out of their way and forgot it was just a game after all. Peoples coming here come to have some fun not be stalked by some creepy dudes or have to deal with endless drama (most of us got enough of that IRL allready). Good competition requires respect from both sides.

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 12:42 PM
Groz, I'm pretty sure Arillious was talking about the non-TMO guilds and TMO, not about red and blue.

Sure. I think that server restarts would go a long way to helping end game for the non-TMO crowd, though.

And Arillious, good job insulting the entire server (sans TMO) based on the OBVIOUSLY faulty assumption that no one has fun on p99 unless they are killing raid mobs.

lol

Paumad
04-03-2012, 12:52 PM
You can only blame yourself for that, by yourself i mean you guild, some of your members went completly out of their way and forgot it was just a game after all. Peoples coming here come to have some fun not be stalked by some creepy dudes or have to deal with endless drama (most of us got enough of that IRL allready). Good competition requires respect from both sides.

We are not feeling guilty of anything, no matter how many times anyone wants to put that blame on us.
People decided to quit, we didn't make them. When we were in your shoes (read getting beat and trolled or whatnot), we stuck to it. I'm not trying to be mean, but if you have to point fingers, you need to look at the people that left. You won't make me believe that you wanted to enter the high end raiding scene with such thin skin after seeing how cutthroat'ish it was.

Granted all that happened wasn't classy, but if it leads to you flipping tables and throwing it all away then you (not you in particular Bylbob) are the one at fault for not being able to take a step back.
We fought dirty and nasty, to win. People ragequitting over it is an entirely different thing that I feel no guilt about.

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 12:56 PM
We fought dirty and nasty, to win.

This is EXACTLY what I would want from my server community.

:rolleyes:

Paumad
04-03-2012, 12:58 PM
This is EXACTLY what I would want from my server community.

:rolleyes:

I like how you answer every threads with absolutely nothing constructive or relevant, or some unfunny meme. You're one of those "outdoor" trolls aren't you? Come out of the closet and enter the rnf cave already.

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 01:06 PM
I don't know what you're talking about, but ad hominem attacks probably won't get you very far.

You wonder why everyone except TMO, hates TMO.

Also, thanks for the sig btw.

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 01:15 PM
I didn't start raiding until Velious, which I didn't get to until after Luclin was released. So I'm taking this opportunity to see content I haven't seen before, while it is "difficult" to do so. Yes, I could make a character on EZ and be clearing VP in a few hours, but that's nowhere near representative of the zone the way the original developers intended it.

Do I think this server is a perfect representation of the original developer's intentions? No. Do I think its the best available without owning a Mac? Yes.

Besides not knowing the raiding scene was as bad as it was before starting ("the real game isn't anywhere near as bad as the forums make them out to be"), I stuck around because EQMac was not planned to go F2P, I don't have plans to buy a Mac, and I thought I might be able to do some actual good for the server. My version of "good" obviously doesn't gel with your version of "good".

If you are looking for the competition side of things, the tagging a mob before another person/guild and winning, why don't you play WoW's BGs? Arathi Basin is all about tagging the post before another person, and you have the actual ability to engage that person.

PVP and Raiding competition are 2 different things.

I've done WoW bgs, I've helped people get Grand Marshal in classic WoW. I did the arena Glad thing as well in BC. Been there done that.

However, I never did anything remotely close to fighting another guild for a raid target. So joining p99's raid scene was fun to me. If I wanted free easy loot, I would play WoW. I didn't want loot just handed to me tho.

Let's be real after all, P99 has never been what most people here want. A carebear server that gives people free loot. The server staff have done everything possible to make the loot from dragons rare and to force competition. The only classic thing about the server is possibly the xp rates to hit 60.

I raided on P99 for what it was, not what I wanted it to be.

You can only blame yourself for that, by yourself i mean you guild, some of your members went completly out of their way and forgot it was just a game after all. Peoples coming here come to have some fun not be stalked by some creepy dudes or have to deal with endless drama (most of us got enough of that IRL allready). Good competition requires respect from both sides.

You reply as if I am mad at the outcome. All things come to an end. It was bound to happen and I am happy that my side won. If p99 'competition' is over, so be it, I've seen many things come to an end in quite a few mmos. As far as most of you (vd), your guild leaders caused your problems - not TMO. We waged war against 2 guilds working together for 6months straight without letting up. We dealt with both of your shit for far to long to care what you feel is right and wrong. Your guild leaders chose the path that your guild wanted to take, we chose ours in response.

If you want to get upset about the out comes and how things went down. You should probably look at the actions that led up to the points. Trying to preach that it was all one sides fault is pretty childish.

Could TMO have not responded in such a way? sure. Could VD not have responded in their own ways? sure. Guess that is what happens when each guild tries to keep one up on the other.

Paumad
04-03-2012, 01:18 PM
I don't know what you're talking about, but ad hominem attacks probably won't get you very far.

You wonder why everyone except TMO, hates TMO.

Also, thanks for the sig btw.

You're right, I shouldn't call you out when you twist my words and are generally full of it. You're welcome for the sig and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings; don't quit over it. Keep hating, young community representative.

Lazortag
04-03-2012, 01:23 PM
Let's be real after all, P99 has never been what most people here want. A carebear server that gives people free loot.

No. That is not what most people here want. We want to see content we've never seen before, revisit content we have seen, and earn our loot through fair competition. I would rather get one mob on a simultaneous respawn than 5 mobs on a rotation, because the former has to be earned (since it requires you to mobilize and takes some semblance of skill to accomplish). It's not like p99's raid scene has to be one extreme (rotations) or the other (ridiculously long variances). There's a happy middle that's still competitive and accessible to people who aren't chained to their keyboards.

PS: The above isn't to be interpreted as an attack against TMO.

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 01:23 PM
You're right, I shouldn't call you out when you twist my words and are generally full of it. You're welcome for the sig and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings; don't quit over it. Keep hating, young community representative.

you should ignore him, he's just another harrison clone.

He has been here for 3-4 months (possibly less) and only posts to defend his friend/s, despite not every having participated in any of the raiding on the server.

He is an ignorant bystander that preaches only what he is fed and what he imagines after reading gossip posts on the forums.

Aka, he is belligerent fool.

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 01:26 PM
You're right, I shouldn't call you out when you twist my words and are generally full of it. You're welcome for the sig and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings; don't quit over it. Keep hating, young community representative.

Feel free to keep carrying on. I know that being the kings of pixels feels good in a thirteen year old game on an emulator server.

Feelings? LOL

you should ignore him, he's just another harrison clone.

He has been here for 3-4 months (possibly less) and only posts to defend his friend/s, despite not every having participated in any of the raiding on the server.

He is an ignorant bystander that preaches only what he is fed and what he imagines after reading gossip posts on the forums.

Aka, he is belligerent fool.

Indeed.

Alarti0001
04-03-2012, 01:27 PM
I don't know what you're talking about, but ad hominem attacks probably won't get you very far.

You wonder why everyone except TMO, hates TMO.

Also, thanks for the sig btw.

So you respond with an adhominem? Poisoning the well? Don't even try logical fallacies with me kujo :)

Stealin Dragons
04-03-2012, 01:27 PM
No. That is not what most people here want. We want to see content we've never seen before, revisit content we have seen, and earn our loot through fair competition. I would rather get one mob on a simultaneous respawn than 5 mobs on a rotation, because the former has to be earned (since it requires you to mobilize and takes some semblance of skill to accomplish). It's not like p99's raid scene has to be one extreme (rotations) or the other (ridiculously long variances). There's a happy middle that's still competitive and accessible to people who aren't chained to their keyboards.

I said most, not all.

However, most of the fantasy scenarios that people wish of the raiding scene are just as unlikely.

Wanting non-rotations but want hours to engage.

Wanting to have other guilds back off just because you were the first to port a group to the zone. (how is this any different than snagging FTE?)

Wanting shots at mobs without a variance, without poopsocking and without having to log in randomly.

There are a great deal of things people want that either have bad consequences or just aren't well thought out.

Grozmok
04-03-2012, 01:32 PM
So you respond with an adhominem? Poisoning the well?

It's what people seem to know best around here. When in Rome.

Joroz
04-03-2012, 01:43 PM
Sure. I think that server restarts would go a long way to helping end game for the non-TMO crowd, though.

Doubtful, last server repop TMO kept a scorecard on their old recruitment post in the guild forums(thread hidden/deleted now), it was quite good but left little up for anyone else on the server. Conscience efforts to leave mobs up like this Gore would go a lot further in helping the raid scene with non bat-phone raids.