TMO adds Gorenaire to the endangered dragon list

[Zeelot]

Due to some complications at this weeks Talendor, we've decided to leave this cycle's Gorenaire alone for the server to enjoy.

The window is already past 24 hours in. Good luck!

[Grozmok]

Haters gonna hate

[Shinko]

RAWR
im a dragon

[Asher]

In before IB/VD shits it up.

Asher

[Supaskillz]

I would like to see solo attempts only. Can Taken, Acryid, Divinity or BDA down this one unaided? Accept my challenge!

[achtung]

She's kinda hard if you don't have a lot of 60s with resist gear. I would see solo attempts as unlikely.

[Cash]

I would like to see solo attempts only. Can Taken, Acryid, Divinity or BDA down this one unaided? Accept my challenge!

If i were a betting man and any guild out of those were to be able to solo Gore at this point, it would most likely be BDA in my opinion considering they are doing the best unaided in other facets (ex. Plane of Sky) and seem to have great guild cohesiveness.

[somnia]

inb4 TMO vs server continues

[Heebo]

If i were a betting man and any guild out of those were to be able to solo Gore at this point, it would most likely be BDA in my opinion considering they are doing the best unaided in other facets (ex. Plane of Sky) and seem to have great guild cohesiveness.

I'm going to disagree. < Bad Kids > could easily squash the dragon with their (his) abundance of self-righteousness.

[Xanthias]

I'm curious what happens this time

[Grozmok]

I'm curious what happens this time

With the thread or the mob?

:)

[Xanthias]

With the thread or the mob?

:)

Yes :)

[Writ3r]

I'm going to disagree. < Bad Kids > could easily squash the dragon with their (his) abundance of self-righteousness.

Seems you all are < Taken > more time falsely accusing someone of being someone they're not and being childish in doing so rather than progressing your guild so you all can take targets solo.

[arsenalpow]

AcyriVD seems like a thing. I'm sure they can throw enough at it to win. She's gonna be a tough fight though.

[snow_man]

It always cracks me up when people go on their rants about who's more epic than who, and who killed what first. The way I look at it, this is just a game (not real) and it's not even the real game! It's alot like the special ed class room. The strats were created 10 years ago when the mob's were really killed for the first time, and the real competition resided on the main server. The rest of us decided we didn't feel like bothering with the advanced classes and joined the special ed class where we could just jump through at our own pace. Even in the special ed class, there's those few kids that are out to prove they are the smartest kid in the class... Would someone please give them their gold star so they can be happy already?

In the meantime I'll just sit in the back of the bus and laugh as the tards fight over the gold star =D

http://www.tehgladiators.com/images/eds-short-bus.jpg

[Cash]

I'm going to disagree. < Bad Kids > could easily squash the dragon with their (his) abundance of self-righteousness.

Seems you all are < Taken > more time falsely accusing someone of being someone they're not and being childish in doing so rather than progressing your guild so you all can take targets solo.

ROFLMAO, apparently i should be < Taken > by surprise at all this love some random semi-casual raid guild is throwing my way or are they more considered a mercenary group since they have to joint raid in order to kill stuff?

[Maze513]

AcyriVD seems like a thing. I'm sure they can throw enough at it to win. She's gonna be a tough fight though.

Did you learn nothing from Tal? =p

[fischsemmel]

It always cracks me up when people go on their rants about who's more epic than who, and who killed what first. The way I look at it, this is just a game (not real) and it's not even the real game! It's alot like the special ed class room. The strats were created 10 years ago when the mob's were really killed for the first time, and the real competition resided on the main server. The rest of us decided we didn't feel like bothering with the advanced classes and joined the special ed class where we could just jump through at our own pace. Even in the special ed class, there's those few kids that are out to prove they are the smartest kid in the class... Would someone please give them their gold star so they can be happy already?

In the meantime I'll just sit in the back of the bus and laugh as the tards fight over the gold star =D

You sure do know a lot about special ed classes.

[Autotune]

It always cracks me up when people go on their rants about who's more epic than who, and who killed what first. The way I look at it, this is just a game (not real) and it's not even the real game! It's alot like the special ed class room. The strats were created 10 years ago when the mob's were really killed for the first time, and the real competition resided on the main server. The rest of us decided we didn't feel like bothering with the advanced classes and joined the special ed class where we could just jump through at our own pace. Even in the special ed class, there's those few kids that are out to prove they are the smartest kid in the class... Would someone please give them their gold star so they can be happy already?

In the meantime I'll just sit in the back of the bus and laugh as the tards fight over the gold star =D

http://www.tehgladiators.com/images/eds-short-bus.jpg

This guy is mad.

[Tulvinous]

Very ba...mad

[Laminin]

ROFLMAO, apparently i should be < Taken > by surprise at all this love some random semi-casual raid guild is throwing my way or are they more considered a mercenary group since they have to joint raid in order to kill stuff?

Seems you all are < Taken > more time falsely accusing someone of being someone they're not and being childish in doing so rather than progressing your guild so you all can take targets solo.

I agree with what these two intelligent gentlemen have to say. It's a damn shame PureLo is banned. I'd love to hear what he would have to say in this matter.

[Writ3r]

< Taken > their resources and devoting them to a R99 status of creating their own accounts pretending to be someone else (not to mention who isn't even playing at the moment). Kind of crafty, however childish as has been said about their leadership for months on both servers.

But back on topic, have fun on Gore!

[Cash]

Hilarious, some shallow people around here.

I am curious to see whether or not other Kunark targets will be selected in the weeks to come if VD is getting back into the scene (TMO's arch-nemesis) with Acyrid or if a guild can solo Gore paving the way to solo other such targets.

[Xanthias]

Wow... someone is hearing voices in their head...

[Cash]

Another tinfoil hat wearer?

[Xanthias]

over/under on her staying alive after pop is 48hrs

[Safon]

This thread devolved into asshattery in near record time

[Lazortag]

In other news, I guess Gore hasn't been killed yet? I've been in DL tracking a lot but I wouldn't know if any guilds killed her while I was asleep. I'm guessing they would have posted here if they did.

[somnia]

This guy is mad.

http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Never-Go-Full-Retard.jpg

[Xanthias]

In other news, I guess Gore hasn't been killed yet? I've been in DL tracking a lot but I wouldn't know if any guilds killed her while I was asleep. I'm guessing they would have posted here if they did.

She hasn't shown yet

[Lazortag]

Why do all of the "endangered" mobs pop in the last day of their window? :(

[Verenity]

Why do all of the "endangered" mobs pop in the last day of their window? :(

Quick, everyone don your tinfoil hats!

[lilyanna]

So funny TMO are offering the mobs they were never that interested in and hadnt been for a long time other than to try and challenge VD. I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

[Alarti0001]

So funny TMO are offering the mobs they were never that interested in and hadnt been for a long time other than to try and challenge VD. I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

We have actually needed these dragons until recently, if you would like to know what we actually need as a guild www.themysticalorder.org and app, we might let you in.

I'm sure we will be trying to normalize relations in the near future however the butthurt vd who quit need to stay gone, you aren't helping anything with your griping.

[Blancah]

We have actually needed these dragons until recently, if you would like to know what we actually need as a guild www.themysticalorder.org and app, we might let you in.

I'm sure we will be trying to normalize relations in the near future however the butthurt vd who quit need to stay gone, you aren't helping anything with your griping.

http://www.themysticalorder.net you mean ;)~

[Versus]

I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

And I'd love to see some real competition on this server.

No one said this was being done to make us look "fair." It's being done because there's no point in banking every piece of gear off these dragons and believe it or not, we want a healthy server that will grow. Spreading the wealth is a way to do that.

Go be fucking bitter somewhere else.

[Thatguy05]

So funny TMO are offering the mobs they were never that interested in and hadnt been for a long time other than to try and challenge VD. I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

So funny VD are still so butthurt that their leadership has dug their grave for them to lay, while the remaining are QQing cuz they cant get any dragon kills now.

[Alarti0001]

http://www.themysticalorder.net you mean ;)~

jesus yes our old website was .org from like 99-2011 hard to adjust !

[finalgrunt]

we want a healthy server that will grow

Won't happen as long as the poopsocking and FTE snipes remain the norm on this server.

[Autotune]

So funny TMO are offering the mobs they were never that interested in and hadnt been for a long time other than to try and challenge VD. I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

So Funny, Lilyanna ran off to EQmac to follow Getsome, but he was done with the old and headed on to some newstrange. He never really needed you and you don't pose that much of a challenge to him any more. I would love to see you just disappear tho, that would actually mean something to everyone. Just prove to us you do have what it takes to gtfo p99 for good.


dumb blondes should keep their fingers in the kitchen and their mouths shut.

[Visual]

seems pretty generous to purposely avoid a mob that we can kill within a matter of minutes

[finalgrunt]

seems pretty generous to purposely avoid a mob that we can kill within a matter of minutes

This comes to my mind:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6xEShP64DM8/TNu715mqrRI/AAAAAAAAAnY/09B6h-rb0dc/s400/bored%2Bcat.jpg

[Alarti0001]

This comes to my mind:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6xEShP64DM8/TNu715mqrRI/AAAAAAAAAnY/09B6h-rb0dc/s400/bored%2Bcat.jpg

that cat made me lol hard

[Verenity]

BDA downed Gorenaire. Confirmed #2 raid guild on server.

[Xeliso]

Grats hope to see you contest us on mobs!

[Jomar]

Nice kill BDA!

[Crazyeye]

GJ BDA !

[arsenalpow]

Grats hope to see you contest us on mobs!

it seems unlikely unless we already have a raid force ready to go, being a casual playerbase we move kinda slow and don't batphone all hours of the day

we also can't split our raid force in half to down mobs simultaneously

[fischsemmel]

Won't happen as long as the poopsocking and FTE snipes remain the norm on this server.

Who is poopsocking what? I'd like to know.

FTE snipes is just your mad way of saying that one raid force was ready to go sooner than the other. The game is built around killing things and getting gear, not about admiring mobs from a distance and looking at the pretty weapons they're wielding.

[fischsemmel]

it seems unlikely unless we already have a raid force ready to go, being a casual playerbase we move kinda slow and don't batphone all hours of the day

we also can't split our raid force in half to down mobs simultaneously

It's not night and day, black and white. There's a lot of wiggle room between contesting and potentially winning a Trak or VS kill and contesting and potentially winning a couple outdoor dragon kills.

I don't mean to start and argument or slam anyone or shout the praises of TMO here, but you don't need to be able to field 2 groups of 25+ 60s or kill half of the mobs up at a repop in order to be contesting kills and getting sweet loot. You just have to pick the right targets to go after given what you're working with.


Edit - talking specifically about server repop situations here. I admit there's not much hope for a guild of casual players to track a mob in window and mobilize a sufficient force to kill it ahead of anyone else without a heavy, heavy numbers advantage.

[somnia]

It's not night and day, black and white. There's a lot of wiggle room between contesting and potentially winning a Trak or VS kill and contesting and potentially winning a couple outdoor dragon kills.

I don't mean to start and argument or slam anyone or shout the praises of TMO here, but you don't need to be able to field 2 groups of 25+ 60s or kill half of the mobs up at a repop in order to be contesting kills and getting sweet loot. You just have to pick the right targets to go after given what you're working with.


Edit - talking specifically about server repop situations here. I admit there's not much hope for a guild of casual players to track a mob in window and mobilize a sufficient force to kill it ahead of anyone else without a heavy, heavy numbers advantage.

You give no advice that most people don't already know (har har double negative). When it comes down to it most people on server just don't see raiding and raid loot on P1999 as a very high priority in their lives. If many of these same people played most modern instanced MMORPGS then they would be raiding 9pm-1am 3-4 days and fully capable of downing encounters which require significantly more attention and care than raiding on P1999.

Nobody is going to challenge TMO because nobody cares as much as they do - it's as simple as that. The fact that their members have to circlejerk on the forum is only a sad testament to how little praise and attention they receive in their own real lives.

Just for a reminder for all who are mad:
http://500motivators.com/plog-content/thumbs/motivate/me/large/530-special-olympics-because-even-if-you-win-your-still-retarded.jpg

[fischsemmel]

You give no advice that most people don't already know (har har double negative). When it comes down to it most people on server just don't see raiding and raid loot on P1999 as a very high priority in their lives. If many of these same people played most modern instanced MMORPGS then they would be raiding 9pm-1am 3-4 days and fully capable of downing encounters which require significantly more attention and care than raiding on P1999.

Nobody is going to challenge TMO because nobody cares as much as they do - it's as simple as that. The fact that their members have to circlejerk on the forum is only a sad testament to how little praise and attention they receive in their own real lives.

Just for a reminder for all who are mad:
http://500motivators.com/plog-content/thumbs/motivate/me/large/530-special-olympics-because-even-if-you-win-your-still-retarded.jpg

My previous post pointed out that you don't have to be online all day erry day and a member of a serious raiding guild in order to contest TMO for kills in server repop situations so long as you pick the correct targets, and then you, ubiquitous mad bad retard drivel aside, replied by yapping about how not everyone cares about raiding as much as TMO does.

No shit, Sherlock. That's why I was JUST talking about how more casual guilds could still contest TMO for raid kills (and beat TMO to raid kills) without putting as much into raiding as TMO does.

[Alarti0001]

You give no advice that most people don't already know (har har double negative). When it comes down to it most people on server just don't see raiding and raid loot on P1999 as a very high priority in their lives. If many of these same people played most modern instanced MMORPGS then they would be raiding 9pm-1am 3-4 days and fully capable of downing encounters which require significantly more attention and care than raiding on P1999.

Nobody is going to challenge TMO because nobody cares as much as they do - it's as simple as that. The fact that their members have to circlejerk on the forum is only a sad testament to how little praise and attention they receive in their own real lives.



Shit why would we need real lives you give us more attention than anyone would ever need. How does our collective jizz taste?

[Auvdar]

My previous post pointed out that you don't have to be online all day erry day and a member of a serious raiding guild in order to contest TMO for kills in server repop situations so long as you pick the correct targets, and then you, ubiquitous mad bad retard drivel aside, replied by yapping about how not everyone cares about raiding as much as TMO does.

No shit, Sherlock. That's why I was JUST talking about how more casual guilds could still contest TMO for raid kills (and beat TMO to raid kills) without putting as much into raiding as TMO does.

If only we had a lot more server repops... :(

[Fromage]

Grats BDA on Gore kill, 2nd worst encounter in the godamn game! ( seriously, fuck AE slowing mobs!)

[Autotune]

I talk random shit in hopes that people will reply and acknowledge me, thus make me feel more important and popular. I also like to sig random quotes that hold absolutely no meaning, are not clever and I probably just do it because the people I quote seem to be the more popular vocal participants of the forums. Please keep replying to me so I feel loved and wanted.

We know dog.

http://chan.catiewayne.com/z/src/13039763988.png

[deneauth]

/Hug :)

[Quizy]

So funny TMO are offering the mobs they were never that interested in and hadnt been for a long time other than to try and challenge VD. I would love to see them offer mobs that actually mean something to them just to prove to the rest of the server how "fair" they are being !

You or ANYONE else is more than welcome to step up to the plate and race for any higher end mobs that MAINs in the guild still need loot from.

This comment is stupid because it means nothing unless there is challenger appears!!!

[Splorf22]

I'm happy to join any guild and race TMO as long as the start of the race is specified in advance between 6PM and 12PM CDT.

[deneauth]

I would like to see another guild compete with TMO at this point. I am super casual when it comes to this server now but I am not kidding when I say the scales are tipped In favor of TMO right now when it comes to raiding, but of course its just one opinion. I have often wondered what other people's views are on healthy competition, and how we can reach that point in the raiding community on this server. Any ideas?

[snow_man]

Ehh I think TMO is the only guild who really cares about raiding as hard as they do. Most people would prefer no competition... Kind of a "oh there's 10 dragons up, maybe we'll get to one of them." It's more likely that TMO will eventually get bored and either quit, or have some rogue captains that try to do their own thing.

With that being said, the only guild to compete with TMO at this point would be TMO. If something drastic happened that split them up. As far as I know, they aren't encountering anything like that...

The one I would much rather see is Velious pop out, so that there are so many targets TMO doesn't want to hit them all as soon as they spawn. Would probably bring more blood to the server too.

[Vostok]

I too am curious how Velious will change raiding. I was never fortunate enough to play EQ live during that expansion.

[deneauth]

I have heard many good things about raiding in Velious as well although I myself haven't raided it during live either. The so called golden age of Classic raiding. It is still up in the air about when it is going to be released still I believe. Nobody really knows how long it will take. I kind of feel like in the mean time unless some guild merging or more alliances are formed though no single guild will be able to truly race TMO. I am just trying to get some brainstorming going here and mean no offense to any guild capable of downing boss mobs solo of course.

[finalgrunt]

Who is poopsocking what? I'd like to know.

FTE snipes is just your mad way of saying that one raid force was ready to go sooner than the other. The game is built around killing things and getting gear, not about admiring mobs from a distance and looking at the pretty weapons they're wielding.

We all know the moment another guild beats TMO (by chance) on a target, the next time it will be poopsocked, and FTE snipes will start all over again. These practices will remain the norm on this server as long as no global rotation is set. And global rotation won't happen as long as TMO keeps going. On the bright side, it's just a matter of time to see people getting bored of doing the same thing over and over.

The other raiding core (aka IB) is gone. Only casuals and semi casuals at best are left, minus TMO who still desperatly hopes to see a challenger stepping up. Not gonna happen :rolleyes:

Yeah, shocking news, most of the other players wouldn't mind global rotation (hey let's leave 2 or 3 targets open to competition for the fun of it, and the list would change every X weeks). People just want to kill some dragons like old days to revive memories, or get to kill something they never did, without investing 100 times the time that should be needed (actually, like old days) :eek:

[arsenalpow]

BDA and VD were the only guilds that had any sort of force online at the server restart aside from TMO. We each had less than 30. We went straight to Hate and by the time we started making some headway towards the encounters TMO rolled in after dropping Trak, VS, and Faydedar using split forces. Of course hate turned into a train shitstorm as usual and you know how that ended today.

It's going to be quite difficult to compete with that amount of people (separate 30 man raid forces) and those tactics (any encounter turns into a train fest where they assume no responsibility)

Obviously TMO is going to do what TMO does but the trains have to stop. We've been in hate the last 3 full repops and been trained every. single. time. It's not accidental, it's not us being terrible, it's not any other reason TMO will attempt to spin. If TMO wants a mob they will train you and/or FTE snipe stuff with eyes and pets and there's nothing anyone can do aside from resorting to those same tactics.

BDA isnt going to resort to those tactics. Maybe if TMO would set a better example this server would be a nicer place to play, until then feel free to run roughshod over P99.

[somnia]

We know dog.

http://chan.catiewayne.com/z/src/13039763988.png

Haha

[Danyelle]

We know dog.



Posting pics of me without my consent. Banned!

[maverixdamighty]

BDA and VD were the only guilds that had any sort of force online at the server restart aside from TMO. We each had less than 30. We went straight to Hate and by the time we started making some headway towards the encounters TMO rolled in after dropping Trak, VS, and Faydedar using split forces. Of course hate turned into a train shitstorm as usual and you know how that ended today.

It's going to be quite difficult to compete with that amount of people (separate 30 man raid forces) and those tactics (any encounter turns into a train fest where they assume no responsibility)

Obviously TMO is going to do what TMO does but the trains have to stop. We've been in hate the last 3 full repops and been trained every. single. time. It's not accidental, it's not us being terrible, it's not any other reason TMO will attempt to spin. If TMO wants a mob they will train you and/or FTE snipe stuff with eyes and pets and there's nothing anyone can do aside from resorting to those same tactics.

BDA isnt going to resort to those tactics. Maybe if TMO would set a better example this server would be a nicer place to play, until then feel free to run roughshod over P99.

I was in hate and didn't see it happen that way but there are always two sides to every story. Also most of your post is full of misinformation. Taken and Divinity both had raid forces going after targets, your list of mobs we killed prior to coming to hate is not correct, etc.. I believe it was like 18 ppl that went to fay with almost no dps. And the part about BDA not FTE sniping stuff and not resorting to those tactics isn't accurate. I can recall air raid leapfrogs, epic mob FTE over camped groups etc.

edit: not trying to flame BDA as i've met lots of cool people there, but rather just trying to say the above post is full of BS.

[arsenalpow]

Minor details withstanding (which mobs TMO got before hate) the majority of my post is accurate. I don't really care however you want to spin it and don't care if anyone believes what I say. It's what I experienced today and the rest of my guild can vouch for it.

When BDA was mobilizing for Hate there was "too many to count" TMO and VD, conversely there were like 3 Taken, 2 Divinity, and 1 Acyrid.

Aside from us getting Dojo what other targets did Taken/Div/Acyrid down? It looks like TMO got pretty much a clean sweep. We got muscled out of Hate and VD almost got Draco before a train downed them. I'm not trying to say how awesome we are for getting Dojo, he's obviously at the bottom end of the food chain, I'm just curious as to what targets TMO didn't get.

[Sadad]

Mavpal, shut the fuck up about a 4-month old Kirak Vil that we apologized for a zillion times done by a paladin who no longer plays

[maverixdamighty]

i didn't list specifics sadad so take your own advice. it wasn't done by one singular person it was done by an orchestrated guild force. Just pointing out that you can't play innocent acting like BDA has never done anything shady etc. I doubt there is a single guild on this server that can act like they have never done something questionable. The leapfrogging in air was much worse and burned quite a few bridges.

arsenal that's your own opinion. Ofcourse you believe what you posted is accurate just saying from another perspective it isn't accurate to me. TMO was wiped out in hate as well and we had to wait to zone up and rez. They definitely did not think they trained, but you are claiming for a fact that we trained you.

Only other target I know of is verina if you consider that one, but attempts were made at multiple things some of which you mentioned.

[teekanc]

Sadadmad

[Loke]

I don't get why people feel they need to diminish how much TMO is dominating the server by claiming it is only because they care the most. That is how EQ has always worked. That is actually how most things work. People who care about things are generally good at those things. You guys should honestly be grateful they're being mildly cool about it with the whole opening up mobs and not being too big of cocks on the forums. IB weren't dicks on the forums, but I can't think of more than one or two times we actually gave someone else a mob. Sure, 90% of the gear those mobs drop is probably worthless to TMO, but just about everything drops something worth looting, so it is cool of them regardless.

As for competition, it'll come back. Right now is just like it was with IB and Trans or IB and DA. Back then IB got 99% of the mobs too, and it was like that for like a year. Either new content or prolonged periods of old content will eventually change that. New content brings old players back which reinvigorates competition. Prolonged old content sees a huge exodus of players from the top guilds - with people disappearing faster than are being recruited, smaller guilds move in an are able to compete because fielding a 35 man raid at 2am becomes impossible for basically everyone. Same shit, just different people.

[Alarti0001]

BDA and VD were the only guilds that had any sort of force online at the server restart aside from TMO. We each had less than 30. We went straight to Hate and by the time we started making some headway towards the encounters TMO rolled in after dropping Trak, VS, and Faydedar using split forces. Of course hate turned into a train shitstorm as usual and you know how that ended today.

It's going to be quite difficult to compete with that amount of people (separate 30 man raid forces) and those tactics (any encounter turns into a train fest where they assume no responsibility)

Obviously TMO is going to do what TMO does but the trains have to stop. We've been in hate the last 3 full repops and been trained every. single. time. It's not accidental, it's not us being terrible, it's not any other reason TMO will attempt to spin. If TMO wants a mob they will train you and/or FTE snipe stuff with eyes and pets and there's nothing anyone can do aside from resorting to those same tactics.

BDA isnt going to resort to those tactics. Maybe if TMO would set a better example this server would be a nicer place to play, until then feel free to run roughshod over P99.

We weren't training I was in the first set of port groups and the train was there, but some rere was shouting that sckrilla(rogue) was training yet he didn't die in hate at all.. Rogues get FD now?

You guys trained yourself,

[fischsemmel]

I'm happy to join any guild and race TMO as long as the start of the race is specified in advance between 6PM and 12PM CDT.

/tell Zeelot next time he's online. Maybe he'll start a "desginated race of the week" mob too!

[Daldaen]

From reading these I see this:

TMO is doing this to give other guilds a taste of dragon loot so that they may get motivated to contest them on other dragons since farming the same PvE stuff every week for a year is boring especially since mob to mob nothing really changes other than a secondary resist you need.

And every other guild seems to be quite clear in the -- we won't batphone at unreasonable hours and we don't have bards for every group to trivialize events.

[sanluen]

And the part about BDA not FTE sniping stuff and not resorting to those tactics isn't accurate. I can recall air raid leapfrogs, epic mob FTE over camped groups etc.

edit: not trying to flame BDA as i've met lots of cool people there, but rather just trying to say the above post is full of BS.

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bregan.guildlaunch.com

[maverixdamighty]

yup bunch of white knights!

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

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[Arteker]

BDA and VD were the only guilds that had any sort of force online at the server restart aside from TMO. We each had less than 30. We went straight to Hate and by the time we started making some headway towards the encounters TMO rolled in after dropping Trak, VS, and Faydedar using split forces. Of course hate turned into a train shitstorm as usual and you know how that ended today.

It's going to be quite difficult to compete with that amount of people (separate 30 man raid forces) and those tactics (any encounter turns into a train fest where they assume no responsibility)

Obviously TMO is going to do what TMO does but the trains have to stop. We've been in hate the last 3 full repops and been trained every. single. time. It's not accidental, it's not us being terrible, it's not any other reason TMO will attempt to spin. If TMO wants a mob they will train you and/or FTE snipe stuff with eyes and pets and there's nothing anyone can do aside from resorting to those same tactics.

BDA isnt going to resort to those tactics. Maybe if TMO would set a better example this server would be a nicer place to play, until then feel free to run roughshod over P99.

i was in the first grp ported up to hate as i was in the one who got vs xp kill.

as we landed u guys have 3 rats , x2 lichs , 1 kirakuey (wich i begin to tank) and 2 golems up.

that wiped us , bda and the other 2 grps of tmop who landed at zone in and find someone has trained zone in .

[CallnOutTheNubs]

If you ask me most of these problems would be solved by just making the god/dragon/whatever it is call the name out of who pulled.

Also remove all these stupid eye of zoom/sk fd coth pull tricks ect

Noway in hell in my mind should you be allowed too pull a mob across the zone through 100+ other mobs too your camp solo

And go fuck urself if you think saying oo they did it on classic so it should be the same here.

Rogean should just remove that bullshit right away and make people acually you know... clear too the goddanm named ...what a thought

[fischsemmel]

we don't have bards for every group to trivialize events.

It's true that bards do make a pretty damn big difference when it comes to... well... basically every boss in the game except for maestro and VS. Resist gear makes as nearly as big of a difference though, as does being level 60 instead of level 55. And even with a bard in every group, if no one has resist gear and 3/4 of a raid is under level 58 and buffs aren't done well, things will still be pretty ugly.

[SCB]

BDA downed Gorenaire. Confirmed #2 raid guild on server.

this made me spit out coffee laughing. thanks for that!

[quido]

this made me spit out coffee laughing. thanks for that!

Why?

[tekniq]

everquest...is just a game.

on the real though, even though all this drama sucks for p99, on the plus side, thank you all for giving me some good reads while i am bored at work. Server chat = the new RnF

[fischsemmel]

Everyone knows that this is just a game. Everyone knows that games are for fun.

What not everyone seems to know is that different people have fun in different ways. Just because you or someone else wouldn't have fun obliterating every raid mob on the server over a 6-7 hour span yesterday doesn't mean I didn't have a hell of a good time doing it.

Very, very, very few people call altoholics who are excited about their first PGT and set of banded pathetic underachievers, but all too many people are quick to jump on the nolifer bandwagon because TMO has fun by taking things more seriously.


Why are you sweating my technique?

[maverixdamighty]

alot of people don't have to work on the weekends...

[maverixdamighty]

left divinity recently but they seem to have a solid player base.

[Autotune]

they just jealous cuz they wanna be unemployed too

i hate being at work all day long :(

unemployed?

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[fischsemmel]

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No I didn't say Abe Lincoln; I said Hey Blinkin!

[Lazortag]

I don't get why people feel they need to diminish how much TMO is dominating the server by claiming it is only because they care the most. That is how EQ has always worked. That is actually how most things work. People who care about things are generally good at those things. You guys should honestly be grateful they're being mildly cool about it with the whole opening up mobs and not being too big of cocks on the forums. IB weren't dicks on the forums, but I can't think of more than one or two times we actually gave someone else a mob. Sure, 90% of the gear those mobs drop is probably worthless to TMO, but just about everything drops something worth looting, so it is cool of them regardless.

I'm not one to lessen TMO's accomplishments, they've come a long way as a guild and I congratulate them for an almost-clean sweep yesterday (they didn't get Master Yael or Noble Dojorn if anyone was wondering). I'm also very grateful that they're offering a raid mob every week and I think it is very generous of them to do this. But if I say something like, "the casual guilds would have done better if the repops didn't happen at 10 in the morning", that's not to attack TMO, that's just pre-empting the tired old argument that casual guilds don't do well because they just somehow aren't good at the game. I know not everyone from TMO thinks that, but surely a lot of people do. And it's funny how you say that the raid scene is fair because the people who care the most will get better returns. No one is saying that you should be able to not care at all and get free loot. I don't speak for all casual players but I think what we don't like is anti-competitive behaviour (like poopsocking, which doesn't seem to be the norm anymore, but it was when there was actual competition). I think we also don't like having to invest insane amount of time for uncertain gains. I tracked Talendor, Gore, and Sev for a combined total of around 4 days (this is only counting time that I was awake; the mobs' windows were much longer than 1.333.. days each); my guild only got one of those mobs. One of them was a total waste of time tracking (Gore) because of the server repop (not that I'm against server repops!). If you think it's at all reasonable for a person to devote that much time for so little gain you are crazy. And that's probably why classic was never like this, because any sensible person would have said that 96 hour windows on raid mobs are stupid.

[quido]

I tracked raid mobs for weeks and weeks before we ever killed one of the mobs for which I was tracking.

[Lazortag]

I tracked raid mobs for weeks and weeks before we ever killed one of the mobs for which I was tracking.

Right, and it's completely unreasonable to have to waste that much time. I mean surely you earned the position you're in now, but you can't tell me that wasting weeks of your life is a reasonable entry cost to competing for raid mobs on this server.

[Kevlar]

How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

[Extunarian]

How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

I'm sure Jeremy's signature includes every acct that he has access to. You definitely got him.

[quido]

Lol yeah.

It's not like when you play Everquest it's the only thing you can do. Grouping as a shaman takes way more work than tracking, especially if you're doing a visual track. I'll track when I'm tired of cannibalizing and feel like getting some coding/guitar/TV time in.

[Alarti0001]

Right, and it's completely unreasonable to have to waste that much time. I mean surely you earned the position you're in now, but you can't tell me that wasting weeks of your life is a reasonable entry cost to competing for raid mobs on this server.

Have more than one tracker !

[Autotune]

i always assumed you had hair Stealin =/

i do :)

[Ele]

How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

"Tracking" a raid mob doesn't actually require a "track" button or skill.

The server has been out long enough, and there was enough time between classic and Kunark and now after Kunark, that lots of people have throw away druid/ranger accounts used for tracking.

You can also track several bosses pretty safely by just watching the spawn point.

[tekniq]

Everyone knows that this is just a game. Everyone knows that games are for fun.

What not everyone seems to know is that different people have fun in different ways. Just because you or someone else wouldn't have fun obliterating every raid mob on the server over a 6-7 hour span yesterday doesn't mean I didn't have a hell of a good time doing it.

Very, very, very few people call altoholics who are excited about their first PGT and set of banded pathetic underachievers, but all too many people are quick to jump on the nolifer bandwagon because TMO has fun by taking things more seriously.


Why are you sweating my technique?

lol, no one is sweating you, at least on this side of the table. That statement I mad earlier was not directed towards you or your guild, but rather everyone seeming to bitch and defend themselves, creating drama over nothing...To be frank, TMO deserves to get all the mobs as you guys are the only guild willing to put in the work. The only thing I don't understand is why you guys feel the need to give the same explanation over and over again to those QQing. Feels like it's the same discussion every week, just in a different sentence. I also don't get why others are seriously bitching over free raid mobs. You guys are angry TMO isn't giving you Inny/Trak/etc, but honestly you shouldn't be getting Talendor/Gore either. Beggers can't be choosers, nahmsayin?

[Lazortag]

Have more than one tracker !

The amount of time wasted is still the same no matter how many people you divide it amongst. And I wasn't the only one tracking, lots of people from my guild helped/offered to help. I'm not here to qq, for me it was actually not at all hard to track for that long because I had exams to study for, so I was basically tied to the computer. I'm just commenting on how ridiculous of a time investment it is to track even a single raid mob. It wasn't like that in classic for reasons that should be obvious.

[KentalCowtipper]

And every other guild seems to be quite clear in the -- we won't batphone at unreasonable hours and we don't have bards for every group to trivialize events.

LOL we have bards for every group? Thats so freaking awesome. I wish I would have realized that. I'll have to make sure I'm in a bard group next time we do VP.

We had 2 bards raiding yesterday. With 50 or so people that works out to about 1/4 of a bard per group. So I call dibs on Fauss's left arm (holding epic) and his boots for selos for the next raid. The other group can take his legs and whatnot~

I just checked our DKP roster - we have 3 bards who have above a 30% raid attendance. 3 whole bards. And one promising app who is at 23%.

Yeah we're awash in bards to trivialize content.
Don't you just love when people speak out of their ass without knowing a thing?

[quido]

Bards are OP - they trivialize endgame raiding.

Please remove them from Everquest!

[Splorf22]

So let me say three things.

First, it is super super easy to get trains in the planes. The aggro radii of the mobs are huge, and then they chain. The reality is no one can really know who trained who without spending a lot of time looking at logs. Remember when you are racing you are doing your best not to clear all this trash but instead get it out of the way temporarily somehow, and that by definition is going to lead to a lot of mobs running around aggro. I don't think TMO does too many intentional trains, but in my experience they don't care about training other guilds either. They just do their thing.

Second, Fisch, racing to mobs is actually kinda fun, although it's not some sort of magical thing that suddenly makes EQ 10x funner to play. What is not fun is batphoning/poopsocking/being on call for 24/7. I find it hilarious that Zeelot says he decided to run IB off the server, succeeded in this, and now TMO is whining that they have no one to poopsock against. The whole thing boggles the mind. Again, 90% of this server is here for a little nostalgia, not to prove our . . . manhood? craziness? by spending hundreds of hours on the raid scene. Furthermore there may be enough crazy players within BDA/Taken/VD/Acyrid to form an uberguild but they are split throughout the four guilds. Again, if you guys want legit competition, you need to be tearing up Rogean's IRC with requests for linked repops at a time known in advance.

Third, I know that TMO got a more or less clean sweep today. I think a lot of it is just tha the smaller guilds need a little practice and such. When I started playing for VD in the fall I did a ton of dumb shit, after the first month or two I basically knew what I had to do. After a few months of simultaneous repops TMO is not going to be getting clean sweeps. Which is why yall are not starting 20 threads requesting this.

[Alarti0001]

So let me say three things.

First, it is super super easy to get trains in the planes. The aggro radii of the mobs are huge, and then they chain. The reality is no one can really know who trained who without spending a lot of time looking at logs. Remember when you are racing you are doing your best not to clear all this trash but instead get it out of the way temporarily somehow, and that by definition is going to lead to a lot of mobs running around aggro. I don't think TMO does too many intentional trains, but in my experience they don't care about training other guilds either. They just do their thing.

Second, Fisch, racing to mobs is actually kinda fun, although it's not some sort of magical thing that suddenly makes EQ 10x funner to play. What is not fun is batphoning/poopsocking/being on call for 24/7. I find it hilarious that Zeelot says he decided to run IB off the server, succeeded in this, and now TMO is whining that they have no one to poopsock against. The whole thing boggles the mind. Again, 90% of this server is here for a little nostalgia, not to prove our . . . manhood? craziness? by spending hundreds of hours on the raid scene. Furthermore there may be enough crazy players within BDA/Taken/VD/Acyrid to form an uberguild but they are split throughout the four guilds. Again, if you guys want legit competition, you need to be tearing up Rogean's IRC with requests for linked repops at a time known in advance.

Third, I know that TMO got a more or less clean sweep today. I think a lot of it is just tha the smaller guilds need a little practice and such. When I started playing for VD in the fall I did a ton of dumb shit, after the first month or two I basically knew what I had to do. After a few months of simultaneous repops TMO is not going to be getting clean sweeps. Which is why yall are not starting 20 threads requesting this.

You are wrong everyone in tmo would love repops...that's a lot more phara dar's

[Alarti0001]

Bards are OP - they trivialize endgame raiding.

Please remove them from Everquest!

So are clerics, complete heal seriously? Remove them!

[Autotune]

So let me say three things.

First, it is super super easy to get trains in the planes. The aggro radii of the mobs are huge, and then they chain. The reality is no one can really know who trained who without spending a lot of time looking at logs. Remember when you are racing you are doing your best not to clear all this trash but instead get it out of the way temporarily somehow, and that by definition is going to lead to a lot of mobs running around aggro. I don't think TMO does too many intentional trains, but in my experience they don't care about training other guilds either. They just do their thing.

Second, Fisch, racing to mobs is actually kinda fun, although it's not some sort of magical thing that suddenly makes EQ 10x funner to play. What is not fun is batphoning/poopsocking/being on call for 24/7. I find it hilarious that Zeelot says he decided to run IB off the server, succeeded in this, and now TMO is whining that they have no one to poopsock against. The whole thing boggles the mind. Again, 90% of this server is here for a little nostalgia, not to prove our . . . manhood? craziness? by spending hundreds of hours on the raid scene. Furthermore there may be enough crazy players within BDA/Taken/VD/Acyrid to form an uberguild but they are split throughout the four guilds. Again, if you guys want legit competition, you need to be tearing up Rogean's IRC with requests for linked repops at a time known in advance.

Third, I know that TMO got a more or less clean sweep today. I think a lot of it is just tha the smaller guilds need a little practice and such. When I started playing for VD in the fall I did a ton of dumb shit, after the first month or two I basically knew what I had to do. After a few months of simultaneous repops TMO is not going to be getting clean sweeps. Which is why yall are not starting 20 threads requesting this.

If you think for a second that TMO wouldn't be cleaning up every target they want on consistent repops, you're fooling yourself. They might be sloppy now (when they can afford it) but if you start giving them consistent repops and other guilds want to compete, they are just going to use that opportunity to shape up and call it competition.

I might not play, but even I hear how sloppy they've become lately and how they have changed the guild since the lack of competition. It wouldn't take much for them to get back into a serious atmosphere and crush any and all types of "competition"


The problem with the casual guilds is this. You guys talk way too much about what you could or what would be and don't put out any sort of action. You want everything but want to give up nothing. You will never pull out any sort of consistency with that ethic and thus will never challenge a guild that is built like TMO.

The only hope the rest of p99 has is to work together to spread TMO thin. If you don't work together, you're just going to get stomped and all walk away with nothing. There are a few skilled people in TMO and a great deal of people that generally slack at their roles on raids, get them stretched thin so those actions of the slackers count more and you'll start picking up targets and watch as TMO starts bickering with itself.

[finalgrunt]

You want everything but want to give up nothing.

That's where all your reasoning falls appart. "Give up nothing" is not remotely close to the amount of effort TMO enforces on competition.

When you'll understand this, maybe you'll have an easier time to understand the server's high end raiding current state.

I'll repeat it again, the only competition TMO ever had, is gone. It was called IB and they left to never come back. And I don't see a huge wave of hardcore players suddenly joining the server and creating a competing guild.

So yeah, TMO deserves all the kills according to the efforts put in this game, but hoping for competition is being in denial :o

IF TMO wanted to see real competition, they would open two thirds of the dragons (Trak included) to global rotation, and leave one third contested, so as to allow other guilds to gear up (epics, ch bps anyone?). Even then, I doubt the competition would want to resort to poop socking and FTE snipes (read rules bending here) to try to get a kill.

[Autotune]

That's where all your reasoning falls appart. "Give up nothing" is not remotely close to the amount of effort TMO enforces on competition.

When you'll understand this, maybe you'll have an easier time to understand the server's high end raiding current state.

I'll repeat it again, the only competition TMO ever had, is gone. It was called IB and they left to never come back. And I don't see a huge wave of hardcore players suddenly joining the server and creating a competing guild.

So yeah, TMO deserves all the kills according to the efforts put in this game, but hoping for competition is being in denial :o

IF TMO wanted to see real competition, they would open two thirds of the dragons (Trak included) to global rotation, and leave one third contested, so as to allow other guilds to gear up (epics, ch bps anyone?). Even then, I doubt the competition would want to resort to poop socking and FTE snipes (read rules bending here) to try to get a kill.

You want everything but want to give up nothing.

[finalgrunt]

Nope, only asking for 2/3 open for rotation (not everything).

It's TMO who wants competition with giving up nothing. Get your facts straight Stealin, if it wasn't the case you would still be playing mind you. :p

There is also the option for TMO to migrate to EqMac to try to beat IB there. It's not because the server is on a rotation, that IB / TMO can't decide to compete the same mob they're being given.

[Autotune]

Nope, only asking for 2/3 open for rotation (not everything).

It's TMO who wants competition with giving up nothing. Get your facts straight Stealin :p

Aye, TMO has not given up anything in the past 3 weeks.

[finalgrunt]

Aye, TMO has not given up anything in the past 3 weeks.

1 unwanted dragon per week is nothing for TMO, and you know it. As if that would allow for (true) competition to arise.

[Arteker]

Right, and it's completely unreasonable to have to waste that much time. I mean surely you earned the position you're in now, but you can't tell me that wasting weeks of your life is a reasonable entry cost to competing for raid mobs on this server.

in live back in the age , without vent and other stuff , u did that and worse things to keep up in any real top end raid guild.

what some find good and sane not always is for everyone and vice versa

[Arteker]

If you think for a second that TMO wouldn't be cleaning up every target they want on consistent repops, you're fooling yourself. They might be sloppy now (when they can afford it) but if you start giving them consistent repops and other guilds want to compete, they are just going to use that opportunity to shape up and call it competition.

I might not play, but even I hear how sloppy they've become lately and how they have changed the guild since the lack of competition. It wouldn't take much for them to get back into a serious atmosphere and crush any and all types of "competition"


The problem with the casual guilds is this. You guys talk way too much about what you could or what would be and don't put out any sort of action. You want everything but want to give up nothing. You will never pull out any sort of consistency with that ethic and thus will never challenge a guild that is built like TMO.

The only hope the rest of p99 has is to work together to spread TMO thin. If you don't work together, you're just going to get stomped and all walk away with nothing. There are a few skilled people in TMO and a great deal of people that generally slack at their roles on raids, get them stretched thin so those actions of the slackers count more and you'll start picking up targets and watch as TMO starts bickering with itself.

All Hail and praise our Lord Stealin Wonderbras.:p

[Autotune]

1 unwanted dragon per week is nothing for TMO, and you know it. As if that would allow for (true) competition to arise.

Yet, they don't have to. it isn't so much to breed competition or to allow other guilds to catch up. It's to test the resolve and determination of the other guilds.

Loot won't make you compete, having loot won't make other guilds compete more. If guilds don't want the loot now, they will not want it when they have more than they do now. They will just keep doing what they are now, asking for more free handouts.

[Lazortag]

in live back in the age , without vent and other stuff , u did that and worse things to keep up in any real top end raid guild.

This simply isn't true. Mobs did not have 4 day windows on Live.

[Supaskillz]

Why must the same conversation be copy and pasted on every single one of these threads?

[Alarti0001]

This simply isn't true. Mobs did not have 4 day windows on Live.

Yes so you had multiple guilds racing and training the shit out of each other to a mob. Live just didn't have poopsocking because you had to wait till you had enough people online to kill something.

[Sckrilla]

Obviously TMO is going to do what TMO does but the trains have to stop. We've been in hate the last 3 full repops and been trained every. single. time. It's not accidental, it's not us being terrible, it's not any other reason TMO will attempt to spin. If TMO wants a mob they will train you and/or FTE snipe stuff with eyes and pets and there's nothing anyone can do aside from resorting to those same tactics.

BDA isnt going to resort to those tactics. Maybe if TMO would set a better example this server would be a nicer place to play, until then feel free to run roughshod over P99.
I usually don't post on these threads but this just warrants a reply. Like Alarti mentioned earlier, I was the ONLY TMO up in Hate at the time of this alleged train. I was up there with maybe a little less than a dozen BDA when they began pulling pathers. The mob in question happened to be a Spite Golem that I was DPSing/backstabbing until it was low enough on health to start walking away with NO snare. As soon as that happened I backed off and camped out, came back in and went hide/sneak to watch the inc train that was surely about to happen. Sure enough, several minutes later half the zone started piling into the entrance RIGHT about the same time 2 or so groups of TMO started porting up after our VS kill. So not only did YOUR own train wipe you guys but it wiped every single TMO that ported up minus myself and a few monks.

I immediately started getting tells for training BDA and how they watched me FEAR their Spite Golem. Which is fine, because they probably did see the animation for Intimidation, however, it was my Nightfall proccing Dooming Darkness (which was resisted). They both share the exact same animation when it procs. The likelihood of me even getting a successful intimidation under a 100 skill level on a SPITE golem is extremely, extremely unlikely as well. Plus I have logs to disprove a fear, but prove a failed GD proc. And oddly enough no BDA present could prove otherwise. So yes, in this particular case, it was simply BDA "being terrible." And I mean no offense by that as I have several good friends in BDA, and those people all know that I would never do something like that in general, let alone to BDA.

**edit Not to mention this was right after a new patch where mobs began fleeing sooner (think it started around 18-20%) and faster, lulz..

[inyane]

Yes, that sounds like a train caused by the patch.

The part I'm interested in is how you can pull mobs to zone without it agro'ing anything else.

Apparently this is a know bug? flaw? exploit? but I would like to know how it's done.

[Arteker]

This simply isn't true. Mobs did not have 4 day windows on Live.

No , but u had euros / us/asian guilds, u had tons of patchs , servers down, game was to much unstable, u had to test many things , not like now where u all go allkazam to chek stuff.

If u wanted to be on high end guilds u have to stick to the bitter end , if that means u lose whole lvls u did .


There wasnt easy mode in live eq .

[Arteker]

Yes, that sounds like a train caused by the patch.

The part I'm interested in is how you can pull mobs to zone without it agro'ing anything else.

Apparently this is a know bug? flaw? exploit? but I would like to know how it's done.

The name for it is u Know the mechanic of the game.Clearly u have not idea how powerfull was using insta invis items such the circlet of shadows , wich in this server have everyone and know how to use it .


There was a amazing post back in 2002 in Monkleybussynes forums about it . quickly ignored when monk got lulls in live and the art of fd+invis pull was lost.

[inyane]

Hmm, well, from what I was reading in the VP thread someplaceorother sounds more like an exploit.

Was a nice mix of mobs and see invis mobs up in hate. I can't believe you can pull named/bosses through that with a CoS/fd, but what do I know.

[arsenalpow]

well the dot trick is broken according to the patch so i'm not sure how TMO pulled it off, i think it involved a bard though. I saw drolgurd, then i saw maestro booking it for the zone in solo. Was a nice trick though

[Xeliso]

Doesn't involve any dots. SK's can still pull almost anything solo still if you think outside the box.

[Autotune]

well the dot trick is broken according to the patch so i'm not sure how TMO pulled it off, i think it involved a bard though. I saw drolgurd, then i saw maestro booking it for the zone in solo. Was a nice trick though

usually a combination of coth and hide.

[Zeelot]

Our SKs are just that good.

[Crazyeye]

I blame french exploiters of the sea.

[Paumad]

^blacklisted by this bard group.

[somnia]

Yet, they don't have to. it isn't so much to breed competition or to allow other guilds to catch up. It's to test the resolve and determination of the other guilds.

Loot won't make you compete, having loot won't make other guilds compete more. If guilds don't want the loot now, they will not want it when they have more than they do now. They will just keep doing what they are now, asking for more free handouts.

Ah right! Autotune is smelling his own farts on a thread again. Dawg sorry nobody wants to play with you. Enjoy your loot - nobody cares but a few butthurt casuals. I see you take great pleasure in pissing them off so please continue - I take great pleasure in observing your delusional sense of self-worth while you tout your superiority.

The fact of the matter is nobody cares enough anymore about P1999 to play competitively. Enjoy your loot - the raid scene has essentially become an easy 13-year-old-all-strategies-discovered-eons-ago instance zone for TMO.

Let's see if I can get snarky reply out of you this time (it's okay if you don't wanna pway bro)

[somnia]

Also if TMO members were serious about wanting competition then somebody would initiate a guild split. I guess members are satisfied with trivializing content with their additional numbers and having the guarantee of loot (eventually). Why wait? The better lot of you should throw away the dispensable members and claim all the loot for yourselves.

[Alarti0001]

Ah right! Autotune is smelling his own farts on a thread again. Dawg sorry nobody wants to play with you. Enjoy your loot - nobody cares but a few butthurt casuals. I see you take great pleasure in pissing them off so please continue - I take great pleasure in observing your delusional sense of self-worth while you tout your superiority.

The fact of the matter is nobody cares enough anymore about P1999 to play competitively. Enjoy your loot - the raid scene has essentially become an easy 13-year-old-all-strategies-discovered-eons-ago instance zone for TMO.

Let's see if I can get snarky reply out of you this time (it's okay if you don't wanna pway bro)

TMFail replacement found. Stalk us though every thread we enjoy the attention

[Jimes]

The fact of the matter is nobody cares enough anymore about P1999 to play competitively.

And yet these 14+ page threads of pure butthurt keep growing. lol.

[somnia]

I tracked raid mobs for weeks and weeks before we ever killed one of the mobs for which I was tracking.

Why would any sane person waste that much time of their lives?

[Alarti0001]

Why would any sane person waste that much time of their lives stalking TMO?

FTFY

[somnia]

Oh I love the attention keep responding to me baby.

[Autotune]

Ah right! Autotune is smelling his own farts on a thread again. Dawg sorry nobody wants to play with you. Enjoy your loot - nobody cares but a few butthurt casuals. I see you take great pleasure in pissing them off so please continue - I take great pleasure in observing your delusional sense of self-worth while you tout your superiority.

The fact of the matter is nobody cares enough anymore about P1999 to play competitively. Enjoy your loot - the raid scene has essentially become an easy 13-year-old-all-strategies-discovered-eons-ago instance zone for TMO.

Let's see if I can get snarky reply out of you this time (it's okay if you don't wanna pway bro)

It's quite obvious you have no idea what you are typing about. In fact, you probably only hope to catch a few bits of actual facts from parts of these forums to use in your posts hoping that they will catch the eye of someone and get them to respond to you.

You must be very lonely in life.

[somnia]

It's quite obvious you have no idea what you are typing about. In fact, you probably only hope to catch a few bits of actual facts from parts of these forums to use in your posts hoping that they will catch the eye of someone and get them to respond to you.

You must be very lonely in life.

Facts? Facts??? Oh wait, I forgot, TMO is full of neckbeards who think they objectively grasp reality with their superior logic and attention to facts and that all others are emotional and unworthy wastes of space. I couldn't possibly grasp the "facts" - what fucking facts? FACT: TMO is an entertaining circlejerk. FACT: Autotune likes to smell his own farts FACT: I don't give a fuck.

[Jimes]

I don't give a fuck.

There's that phrase again!

You care so little that you made a forum account specifically to post about TMO, which you have done nonstop for weeks now. You have even devoted your signature to TMO. Sounds like you care to me, Mr. Mads.

[quido]

Lol who are you Somnia? Tell us how you really feel! And make sure you do so in every thread. Show us how few fucks you give!

TMO gives 0 fucks. You think you can give any less?!

[Arrisard]

I immediately started getting tells for training BDA and how they watched me FEAR their Spite Golem.

That's some pretty funny shit right there.

[Splorf22]

Lol who are you Somnia? Tell us how you really feel! And make sure you do so in every thread. Show us how few fucks you give!

TMO gives 0 fucks. You think you can give any less?!

You could take fucks.

/ducks

[somnia]

Lol who are you Somnia? Tell us how you really feel! And make sure you do so in every thread. Show us how few fucks you give!

TMO gives 0 fucks. You think you can give any less?!

-1, that's right, negative fucks, in your face.

[Autotune]

Facts? Facts??? Oh wait, I forgot, TMO is full of neckbeards who think they objectively grasp reality with their superior logic and attention to facts and that all others are emotional and unworthy wastes of space. I couldn't possibly grasp the "facts" - what fucking facts? FACT: TMO is an entertaining circlejerk. FACT: Autotune likes to smell his own farts FACT: I don't give a fuck.

Truth always strikes deep. If you don't want people to figure you out, stop posting.

[Alarti0001]

Somnia is going the way of Harrison

[somnia]

Somnia is going the way of Harrison

Tell me about this Harrison - I need the facts from the ubers.

[snow_man]

Heh, I caught a post in there saying if TMO wanted true competition it would split. TMO as a whole doesn't want true competition, there are too many baby fish swimming in their sea of sharks that wouldn't survive without their elites dragging em around and making sure they got their 3am phone calls.

TMO wants someone from the outside to form up something of competition. Unfortunately until more Euro's start to play, there won't be much competition even if ALL of the major upper guilds formed up, because there still wouldn't be Euro time zone competition.

I am quite suprised that more of the TMO Euro's don't break away just to show they could hold down 50% of the kills if they wanted too...but then again thats the baby fish being afraid to leave the sharks lair.

[Versus]

OMG am I a shark or a baby fish?

[Xanthias]

FACT: I don't give a fuck.

So why are you still talking and being annoying in this thread? I seriously don't get it. If you don't care, why waste your time and ours by posting and replying to everything?

OMG am I a shark or a baby fish?

guppy for sure.

[somnia]

Fun,

and I think the baby fish in the shark's lair analogy is accurate. I would have used breastfeeding or bitch in prison but shark's lair is the PG version.

http://mybabyexperience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/breastfeedingsalute.jpg

[snow_man]

For those TMO's that aren't sure if they are a guppy or not... Easy question, were you here when TMO actually had to fight for spawns? I'm not talking about toward the end of IB when TMO moved into Prison, Im talking well before that...
Answer = yes = congrats.
Answer = no = don't post about handouts... your a nobody like me and everyone else on the server. Enjoy your free loots =p

[Zenlina]

If you think for a second that TMO wouldn't be cleaning up every target they want on consistent repops, you're fooling yourself. They might be sloppy now (when they can afford it) but if you start giving them consistent repops and other guilds want to compete, they are just going to use that opportunity to shape up and call it competition.

I might not play, but even I hear how sloppy they've become lately and how they have changed the guild since the lack of competition. It wouldn't take much for them to get back into a serious atmosphere and crush any and all types of "competition"


The problem with the casual guilds is this. You guys talk way too much about what you could or what would be and don't put out any sort of action. You want everything but want to give up nothing. You will never pull out any sort of consistency with that ethic and thus will never challenge a guild that is built like TMO.

The only hope the rest of p99 has is to work together to spread TMO thin. If you don't work together, you're just going to get stomped and all walk away with nothing. There are a few skilled people in TMO and a great deal of people that generally slack at their roles on raids, get them stretched thin so those actions of the slackers count more and you'll start picking up targets and watch as TMO starts bickering with itself.

I dont know about getting sloppy, if sloppy you mean everyone playing alts and tanking bosses with sk/ranger/monks and stuff then sure. But that's really just to try different things and make it a little more challenging. Like clearing sky with 2 groups etc.

Now i am all for more server reset/repops, would see how thin as stealin puts it TMO can get by running 3 separate raid groups at different targets at once. Generally 15-25 per raid. TMO might look like a huge guild, but honestly its like one player has 2-5 lvl 55+ alts. So to field and balance out those raid groups sounds plausible if 60 or so players log in for those resets. The thought sounds like alot of fun... More resets please

[Autotune]

I dont know about getting sloppy, if sloppy you mean everyone playing alts and tanking bosses with sk/ranger/monks and stuff then sure. But that's really just to try different things and make it a little more challenging. Like clearing sky with 2 groups etc.

Now i am all for more server reset/repops, would see how thin as stealin puts it TMO can get by running 3 separate raid groups at different targets at once. Generally 15-25 per raid. TMO might look like a huge guild, but honestly its like one player has 2-5 lvl 55+ alts. So to field and balance out those raid groups sounds plausible if 60 or so players log in for those resets. The thought sounds like alot of fun... More resets please

Can use whatever excuse you want to explain why the slop is sloppy.

Also, unless those players with alts can dual box them, they wouldn't matter with what I am referring to.

[Alarti0001]

Can use whatever excuse you want to explain why the slop is sloppy.

Also, unless those players with alts can dual box them, they wouldn't matter with what I am referring to.

I think level 55's in vp is a valid excuse =)

[Arteker]

Heh, I caught a post in there saying if TMO wanted true competition it would split. TMO as a whole doesn't want true competition, there are too many baby fish swimming in their sea of sharks that wouldn't survive without their elites dragging em around and making sure they got their 3am phone calls.

TMO wants someone from the outside to form up something of competition. Unfortunately until more Euro's start to play, there won't be much competition even if ALL of the major upper guilds formed up, because there still wouldn't be Euro time zone competition.

I am quite suprised that more of the TMO Euro's don't break away just to show they could hold down 50% of the kills if they wanted too...but then again thats the baby fish being afraid to leave the sharks lair.

VD was the guild with the strongest euro pressence and that didnt help them. Speaking of euros in TMO they are enough psychos to stay till 5 am to get in raid mobs .

[Taboo]

10 people on the basketball court ready to play, but noone wants to take the chance of being on the shitty team.

Being a raid guild leader in the past I understand why. You have a core that controls it all and makes things go smooth and shit gets done. No matter if your guild is 20 or 100 that core controls the ship. More than likely they will never agree to split because they like playing with each other. They can lose 80% of the guild and still be succesful as long as they stay the same. So unless a core member gets greedy then a split will never happen where both teams do well.

Unless the core splits and decides its more fun to compete that way it will never happen.

Rest of the server simply just does not care. Who doesn't want to poop thier bard epic? The one with a wife and kids that do not like to see thier father sitting for hours staring at a computer screen on a saturday afternoon waiting for trak to spawn.

And thats the way a great bit of the people that play casually on this server think. I envy the loot and you can envy my day at the beach :)

[Arteker]

10 people on the basketball court ready to play, but noone wants to take the chance of being on the shitty team.


And thats the way a great bit of the people that play casually on this server think. I envy the loot and you can envy my day at the beach :)


Will remember those words in 1 month when i play eq in me house near a beach in a tiny island named ibiza

[Fazlazen]

Will remember those words in 1 month when i play eq in me house near a beach in a tiny island named ibiza

Where is my plane ticket ?

[Happyfeet]

For those TMO's that aren't sure if they are a guppy or not... Easy question, were you here when TMO actually had to fight for spawns? I'm not talking about toward the end of IB when TMO moved into Prison, Im talking well before that...
Answer = yes = congrats.
Answer = no = don't post about handouts... your a nobody like me and everyone else on the server. Enjoy your free loots =p

Thanks for the grats.

[Autotune]

I envy the loot and you can envy my day at the beach :)

well you can envy my loot while I sit on the better beach.

[Versus]

TMO break fear yet?

[Alarti0001]

TMO break fear yet?

Damn you phisting i was going to revive that when there was a bit better of a thread.... DAMN YOU

[somnia]

Can I play at the beach with yall?

http://i46.tinypic.com/34nr18h.jpg

[seaweedpimpz]

Be sure to remember this fools personality when he sends in an app.

[Auvdar]

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