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Nirgon
04-24-2012, 12:20 PM
Oh this weekend bros, time to see if the hype is what they've been saying all along. I'm ever so optimistic.

Let's see what this beta's got.

bamzal
04-24-2012, 12:28 PM
sick of fuckin instances

SamwiseRed
04-24-2012, 12:33 PM
eww instances. like zones cept even gayer. you know eq classic pvp would be cool if it was open world.

taakyn
04-24-2012, 01:33 PM
eww instances. like zones cept even gayer. you know eq classic pvp would be cool if it was open world.

Fuck yea

hijinks
04-24-2012, 01:44 PM
lotta hope for this game-- got my 2 fav classes.. necro and their version of enchanter called 'mesmer'

graphics look great but we'll have to wait and see

jdklaw
04-24-2012, 03:19 PM
red 99 4 l1f3

Wanders
04-25-2012, 09:57 AM
All about Tera, get over the lame Anime graphics and it's actually the most fun I have had since Rallos zek :D

A lil birdie told me guild wars 2 is like almost all sequels...bad.

SamwiseRed
04-25-2012, 10:20 AM
All about Tera, get over the lame Anime graphics and it's actually the most fun I have had since Rallos zek :D

A lil birdie told me guild wars 2 is like almost all sequels...bad.

had some good concepts but if youve ever played a korean mmo, you know its gonna fail. im glad you are having fun but remember its beta. timeline for korean mmo

release > pop dives after month > goes ftp > cash shop opens > everyone mad

Albane
04-25-2012, 10:22 AM
All about Tera, get over the lame Anime graphics and it's actually the most fun I have had since Rallos zek :D

A lil birdie told me guild wars 2 is like almost all sequels...bad.

Tera is a ton of fun and it only gets better as you gain more levels, skills, and explore. All of the fights are challenging and very fun. The only thing Korean about the game are the graphics. Everything else has been purchased and redeveloped by an American company made up of some MMO all stars.

I have yet to hear a good review of Guild Wars 2. Everyone is comparing it to a shitty version of GW1, which was the worst MMO I have ever payed for.

bamzal
04-25-2012, 11:41 AM
ya i was afraid to leave town in GW1 because i didnt want to be alone..

Nirgon
04-25-2012, 12:11 PM
Yeah the WvW is going to be super instanced

SamwiseRed
04-25-2012, 01:45 PM
I could never commit myself to Betas knowing all my time invested will be wiped as well as the game breaking changes they will implement to suit carebear/ez mode playas.

FoxxHound
04-25-2012, 02:12 PM
yesh

Naikon
04-28-2012, 12:23 PM
Played the beta this weekend. Loved Guild Wars 1, but this is a completely new game and so far it is very disappointing. Strictly talking about the instanced pvp. Have yet to try the daoc style WvW pvp.

hijinks
04-28-2012, 01:37 PM
Unfortunately we're on a forum for a 12 year old game for a reason. I doubt any game can recapture the feelings and experiences most felt when they started up EQ many moons ago, it's sad really. MMO's these days are catered to be super easy and provide no challenge.. even gear is basically guaranteed if you get X amount of points per week.

Graphics, worlds, etc will change from game to game, but every MMO since WoW has been basically a carbon copy of wow's system... instanced PvP.. little to no meaning of dying, etc. Developers now and days are just scared to challenge players and hurt their feelings, or do anything that would mean that the last 3-4 hours they spent playing their game was a total waste of time and now they're actually further behind than when they started. It's a joke, and it's even brainwashed alot of the EQ crowd into catering even emu boxes to be like these games, that's why I laugh when I see people voting to make EXP easier, or all this insta 50 in 2 days shit. EQ was a grind, it fucking sucked but it was also that very key element that kept players wanting a challenge playing.

Until a company out there decides to be a new trendsetter and take a risk with a MMO by introducing a PvP system similar to DaoC or EQ PvP and making the game HARD, I don't see at least myself being happy with any of these games coming out.

Dullah
04-29-2012, 01:48 AM
Theres tons of developers who'd change the trend, but none of them have money and no one will invest in something that isn't presented as a wow clone, wow killer.

Theres been a dozen great games in the last 3 or 4 years that all basically sucked because they were released incompleted due to funding.

They think if you're game isn't catering to every crowd as well as several animals and unborn children, it just isn't worth investing it.

lethdar
04-29-2012, 02:50 PM
Lol, everquest is your shining example of great pve?

SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 03:05 PM
Lol, everquest is your shining example of great pve?

a agree, when it comes to mmo pve content, eq number 1. I would say wow vanilla open world pvp is better than dark age. eve in its own category.

lethdar
04-29-2012, 03:25 PM
You guys drank too much punch if you really think eq pve is the best.

hijinks
04-29-2012, 05:41 PM
As far as immersion, EQ was king for a long time up until probably that shitty Shadows of Luclin expansion. Not so much because of the raid scripts, or the actual content, but for the fact that those mobs would be gone for a full week. Being the first to kill revamped CT on Rallos Zek was like a boss accomplishment, now n days it's just different and cheap feeling with 'instanced' mobs, and 3 day lockouts, etc

I attribute games changing greatly to the fact that the average person that owns a PC and plays PC games now is much different than it was even 10 years ago. Developers r catering towards that crowd, not the 'hardcore' crowd that played games back when the internet first exploded, does anybody remember that service Kali? (sp) or Dwango? Hell I remember Quake being the first game that really introduced TCP/IP for network play.

Times have just changed, games are catered to the "console" crowd now, so they're easy to pickup like it would be a PS3 controller and start playing. I had a lot of hope out for GW2, Rift, etc and some of these new games, but the reality is they are molding their games over WoW, the community that wants a DAoC or a world pvp type game is a minority to the people that want WoW. Devs/companies want $$$, until somebody decides to break the mold most of the people that enjoy EQ/DAoC are in limbo.

Same problem exists for FPS games, I haven't seen a GOOD/true deathmatch game since Q3, everything now is all about these shitty BF2/Counterstrike type games

Bayoyoy
04-29-2012, 05:58 PM
I would like to hear more GW2 beta experiences, if anyone would be kind to share ~

Bunch of my friends are hopping on the bandwagon, and I would like to hear more personal insight and stories <('. '<) ~

SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 06:10 PM
As far as immersion, EQ was king for a long time up until probably that shitty Shadows of Luclin expansion. Not so much because of the raid scripts, or the actual content, but for the fact that those mobs would be gone for a full week. Being the first to kill revamped CT on Rallos Zek was like a boss accomplishment, now n days it's just different and cheap feeling with 'instanced' mobs, and 3 day lockouts, etc

I attribute games changing greatly to the fact that the average person that owns a PC and plays PC games now is much different than it was even 10 years ago. Developers r catering towards that crowd, not the 'hardcore' crowd that played games back when the internet first exploded, does anybody remember that service Kali? (sp) or Dwango? Hell I remember Quake being the first game that really introduced TCP/IP for network play.

Times have just changed, games are catered to the "console" crowd now, so they're easy to pickup like it would be a PS3 controller and start playing. I had a lot of hope out for GW2, Rift, etc and some of these new games, but the reality is they are molding their games over WoW, the community that wants a DAoC or a world pvp type game is a minority to the people that want WoW. Devs/companies want $$$, until somebody decides to break the mold most of the people that enjoy EQ/DAoC are in limbo.

Same problem exists for FPS games, I haven't seen a GOOD/true deathmatch game since Q3, everything now is all about these shitty BF2/Counterstrike type games

Kali was the shit. I hung out in ID Games.