Yaulp 4 overwriting Speed of Shissar

[Silentone]

first , i am asking the community becasue I personaly do not know if this is classic or a bug. However it seems like a bug where yaulp 4 proc off Phar Dar Claw is overwriting Speed of the Shissar Enchanter epic clicky. If anyone has input please let us know and I can write up a bug report. thanks all

[Daldaen]

Lucy Changes, so it was true from lucys creation until late PoP... it may have been different earlier on but I doubt it...

For Yaulp:

2002-10-14 02:42 Changed Slot 4 from "Decrease Stamina Loss by 10" to "Decrease Stamina Loss by 8"
2002-10-15 23:39 Changed Slot 4 from "Decrease Stamina Loss by 8" to "Increase Stamina Loss by 10"
2002-10-18 23:28 Changed Slot 4 from "Increase Stamina Loss by 10" to "Decrease Stamina Loss by 10"
2003-12-03 20:56 Removed Slot 4: Decrease Stamina Loss by 10

For Speed of the Shissar:

2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Slot 4 from "Decrease Stamina Loss by 3" to "Increase Stamina Loss by 0"
2003-12-18 10:39 Removed Slot 4: Increase Stamina Loss by 0

[Silentone]

hmm, ok but was Stamina i issue in classic/kunark?

[Daldaen]

Yes, it worked properly during classic-velious then it stopped working.


For example, using Wurmslayer in your primary drained your stamina really fast cause its a heavy weapon (which is why it wasn't ALWAYS a good weapon choice). But the code regarding endurance has always been fucked to hell. Which is likely why they haven't fixed it on here (SOE infact just said F it and removed all stamina based spells a few years ago, partially because they merged it with endurance too).

I believe the reason they added those "decrease stamina loss" lines onto those spells, is because the haste components they have. You swing more, you are draining more stamina, those lines were put in (I'd imagine) to offset that.

[Labyrrinth]

Enchanter epic being overwritten by Yaulp4 is/was a known issue... fucking hated it back in the day (ench was my main). I remember it specifically in Velious and can't be sure when it was "fixed"

That said, I never ever (other than only Kunark or perhaps pre-Kunark) remember stamina being an issue. In fact, once Velious came out I never ever remember having to address any issues based on someones stamina running low...

YMMV :)

[Silentone]

cool guys, seems like its supposed to be overwriting sos. Mystery solved, cas closed.