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Slug
05-08-2012, 04:31 PM
I quit in January or early February - at whatever point the server could no longer break the 140ish population point. Up until 20 minutes ago, I hadn't really thought about the server, or put any effort towards reflection. After a chat with my eternal life partner Bkab, I realized I know exactly why this server devolved into a cluster fuck of degenerates. I will briefly lay out my esoteric vision below.

Amelinda - seriously? Rogean; buddy, seriously? She knows nothing about PvP, she knows even less about EQ. The autistic random family member that I don't actually have, has infinitely more people and problem solving skills than Amelinda. Amelinda is the perfect example of the fact that people put their need for internet attention before their health, their jobs and their kids when EverQuest started in 1999, and those same people are doing the same thing with this EMU in 2012.

Amelinda doesn't represent the server, she doesn't represent the player base, and she doesn't represent the developers. How many times has some aimless Amelinda proclamation sticky post been edited or deleted because she experienced synapse misfire? Seriously, if your horse is lame, you don't keep entering races. You shoot the horse. Then you turn it into glue. That glue, and only that glue, can bind this server together. Shoot that horse Rogean.

Nihilum - Going into this, the TZ/VZ people ran our mouths, talked shit, etc. We came to PvP, others came to grind 70 hours a week and live off welfare. I get that people who are not good at EverQuest are intimidated by the people that are. I get that the people that are not good at EverQuest are conversely the people that need EverQuest the most. I get that this sums up 99.9% of Nihilum's core.

Seriously, this guild is/was/idontplaynow run by a group of people that were banned from P99 for exploiting and hacking. Let me repeat that: banned for exploiting and hacking. These are the idiots that make posts confessing to hacking, then argue for the next 3 months trying to defend themselves by saying there is no proof. These guys are so plugged in to EverQuest, there is absolutely no connection to reality. There is no lie too big. No shame to be had. No fact undeniable. These people are addicts - they will lie, cheat and steal to have their fix. This is who the server opted to favor.

Let me be clear for a moment. There is no difference between a video game addict and a crack addict. It is the same componentry. Why would you treat a video game addict any differently? If you sell meth, you rely on your addicts for income - but unless your addicts also graduated from Wharton, you don't model your business plan on their advice. Don't model R99 on the mouths of people who had to invite 85% of the server population, just to survive the first 3 months.

Anyway - TL;DR - bottom line, the admins of this server didn't like the TZ/VZ people, they bet on the Nihilum base. They didn't listen to the advice of the TZ/VZers, they didn't implement changes - and the server now has a population of 50. Naysayers will say whatever, the 200+ people that stopped logging in, know the reality.

Rydar
05-08-2012, 04:36 PM
population of 50 is still about 3x higher then your VZ/TZ, and without the hacking/cheating twist.

Classic red EQ was just not for you.

Lawler
05-08-2012, 04:39 PM
If holocaust had won the fight for mobs they would be the ones playing on a 50 pop server farming fear and hate. Every vztz iteration was the same thing. What killed the server was them losing and then spouting doom and gloom that the server is over

Slug
05-08-2012, 04:39 PM
population of 50 is still about 3x higher then your VZ/TZ, and without the hacking/cheating twist.

Classic red EQ was just not for you.

Delusion; an introspective.

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Amelinda - seriously? Rogean; buddy, seriously? She knows nothing about PvP, she knows even less about EQ. The autistic random family member that I don't actually have, has infinitely more people and problem solving skills than Amelinda. Amelinda is the perfect example of the fact that people put their need for internet attention before their health, their jobs and their kids when EverQuest started in 1999, and those same people are doing the same thing with this EMU in 2012.


Amelinda was a raid leader on Live in one of the top guilds. Maybe it's you who knows nothing about eq.

Slug
05-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Amelinda was a raid leader on Live in one of the top guilds. Maybe it's you who knows nothing about eq.

Maybe. Or maybe a vagina in EQ allots unearned privileges awarded by lonely manchilds - care to offer first hand experience, worst_bard_to_ever_play?

Rydar
05-08-2012, 04:48 PM
If holocaust had won the fight for mobs they would be the ones playing on a 50 pop server farming fear and hate. Every vztz iteration was the same thing. What killed the server was them losing and then spouting doom and gloom that the server is over

except them losing did not and has not "killed the server".

Server is fine. /ooc full of pvp shittalk, no raid mob stays up longer then a day, guilds for all types of players (random PKs, family style, raiding,etc).

It may not currently be a HUGE population but the server is stable and now without those leeaches who had no respect for the server's rules.

Not much content in classic, one can only do lguk so many times. People are waiting for the world to double in size with Kunark.

Best thing for the server was seeing slime that constantly trained and set off death scripts get GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER

If only it could of happened back in November before they ran off so much of the playerbase with their bind camping, training, griefing ways.

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 04:48 PM
If holocaust had won the fight for mobs they would be the ones playing on a 50 pop server farming fear and hate. Every vztz iteration was the same thing. What killed the server was them losing and then spouting doom and gloom that the server is over

Holocaust did win the fight for mobs, they were just banned for doing exactly what nihilum did.

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 04:49 PM
except them losing did not and has not "killed the server".

Server is fine. /ooc full of pvp shittalk, no raid mob stays up longer then a day, guilds for all types of players (random PKs, family style, raiding,etc).

It may not currently be a HUGE population but the server is stable and now without those leeaches who had no respect for the server's rules.

Not much content in classic, one can only do lguk so many times. People are waiting for the world to double in size with Kunark.

Best thing for the server was seeing slime that constantly trained and set off death scripts get GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER

If only it could of happened back in November before they ran off so much of the playerbase with their bind camping, training, griefing ways.

ROFL. Get a load of this guy. Troriste was the first to start the CT death script bullshit, Amelinda as my witness on that one, get this guy a dose of reality I fear for your mental health.

Slug
05-08-2012, 04:52 PM
except them losing did not and has not "killed the server".

Server is fine. /ooc full of pvp shittalk, no raid mob stays up longer then a day, guilds for all types of players (random PKs, family style, raiding,etc).

It may not currently be a HUGE population but the server is stable and now without those leeaches who had no respect for the server's rules.

Not much content in classic, one can only do lguk so many times. People are waiting for the world to double in size with Kunark.

Best thing for the server was seeing slime that constantly trained and set off death scripts get GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER

If only it could of happened back in November before they ran off so much of the playerbase with their bind camping, training, griefing ways.

Interesting take. I imagine you spent an inordinate amount of time alone as a child, but convinced yourself it was better that way because your imaginary friends had really strong moral fiber.

Rydar
05-08-2012, 04:53 PM
Holocaust did win the fight for mobs, they were just banned for doing exactly what nihilum did.

^^

RED ALERT NEWS FLASH: Holocaust killed nada/zip/zero raid targets the entire history of the box except for one time they exploited a dragon and got guild dis-dis-disbanded for.

Let that sink in: Holocaust lost every single raid mob that has ever spawned on the server, except for one they cheated to kill and got the axe to the head for.

every single one...... ouch.

Classic red EQ was just not for them.

Lawler
05-08-2012, 04:56 PM
Holocaust did win the fight for mobs, they were just banned for doing exactly what nihilum did.

As long as you remember who got them banned.

Vohl
05-08-2012, 04:59 PM
TL; DR: A guy who no longer plays hates Amelinda, thinks Nihilum is a bunch of no-talent cheats, and thinks the server is in a death-spiral, while the rest of us are also confused about what belongs in Rants.

SearyxTZ
05-08-2012, 05:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/s3bDz.png

Bardalicious
05-08-2012, 05:11 PM
Same regurgitated bullshit. Quitters gonna quit bros. The key component to Lolocaust being gone from the server is that they cheated / exploited. Muster up every last bit of mental fortitude and concentrate to your fullest on that previous paragraph, because nothing besides that simple fact matters in the outcome.

I, and probably most of the people left playing, don't give a fuck. If you hadn't done it in the first place, you'd still be here. If Nihilium was still doing it and you posted irrefutable proof of it, I'm sure it would have been dealt with. (Incoming cries of corruption and favoritism)

Are you limp-dicked faggots that disillusioned to think they need to make anon characters to play in that raiding guild just for PVE and then proceed to exploit to get kills? Or favor them from the outside without playing for some reason? REALLY? With everything they've done here, I'm sure they could have got much more creative with taking / giving easy kills and you dipshits would have never known.

Dirty whistles all around this motherfucker. Stop self-loathing so much and take an example from Lazortag imo, that dude has the cleanest whistle on the server.

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 05:13 PM
sig

Bardalicious
05-08-2012, 05:16 PM
No MQ on this server, which was the old fall-back excuse for being curb stomped on previous shit boxes.

"OMG HE TOUCHED MY PEEPEE AND HE USED MQ TO FIND ME!!"

And now without MQ to blame it's:

"OMG WE GOT BANNED FOR SPLOITING, THAT OTHER GUILD HAS GMS WORKING FOR THEM"

Ironically, the "pvp" guild doesn't get the axe for PVP-related exploits. They get it for trying to get a leg up in PVE. FUCKING PIXELS, BROS. Who's laughing in the long run?

SearyxTZ
05-08-2012, 05:29 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1076137/elbow.gif

Rydar
05-08-2012, 05:48 PM
youre all fucking nerds

^^ NERD ALERT

Seaweedpimp
05-08-2012, 05:50 PM
youre all fucking nerds

careful guys, mexican wannabe gasgsta up in HURRRRR

Seaweedpimp
05-08-2012, 06:16 PM
Only the most annoying make it to my list.

who are you

Mornin3.0
05-08-2012, 07:06 PM
you are all fucking morons. Community didnt kill server.

Staff did.

After the server launch the staff was all but non existent. Any changes that were made to the server by the staff were pushed in by the community. Not that those changes mattered since the staff did too little way too late.

All you people trying to shit on Nihilum for zerging out and how it ruined the server are full of shit. Stfu.. Bluebies did what bluebies thought would win the server and they won a dead box. grats.

All you tard bluebies who cry about how holo poisoned the community and ruined the server. Get your fucking heads out your ass. Your Nihilum leaders exploited MORE than holo. Your Nihilum leaders RMTd MORE than holo. Your Nihilum leaders 2 boxed MORE than holo. Only thing holo ever did was train a little bit (wahh cry about a train.. try playing Sullen Zek you pussy). Or they mightve corpse camp a few people (All those people that were CCd either appd or joined holo except retti).

Majority of people that left the server complained about 1 of 2 things.. Exp being too bad and lack of admin support. Things that were never truly resolved.

My whole point is stop being dumb pricks. If your gonna point fingers, point em the right direction. Right at Rogean. He is king troll for making you believe you had a worthy box to play. Server died when Lovely xploited to 50 and nothing was done about it.

And all that is said about vztz.. Atleast the vztz community lasted 4 years... And atleast the people on that server enjoyed those 4 years.. Red99 dead after 4 months.

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 07:29 PM
you are all fucking morons. Community didnt kill server.

Staff did.

After the server launch the staff was all but non existent. Any changes that were made to the server by the staff were pushed in by the community. Not that those changes mattered since the staff did too little way too late.

...

And all that is said about vztz.. Atleast the vztz community lasted 4 years... And atleast the people on that server enjoyed those 4 years.. Red99 dead after 4 months.

There were more fixes to the server before the server even launched than there were in VZTZ's entire lifetime. Item recharging was way worse on VZTZ, guard assist didn't exist on VZTZ, and VZTZ didn't have cheat detection. Don't get me started on all the pve related bugs on VZTZ that never existed on red99. Stop crying that fixes didn't happen fast enough by your standards, the people who work on this server have lives too.

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 07:41 PM
Everyone makes such a big fucking deal about guard assist but I played when server first came out and there were 60+ in nektulos and not once did I have a single death because dem guards wouldn't help me

Bardalicious
05-08-2012, 07:46 PM
If only the Red99 quitters had opted for item loot when nilbog was pushing for it. Then maybe Lolocaust could have used their god-given eq pvp skills to take dragon loot instead of having to exploit for it.

Nah, they probs would have bitched out even quicker.

Silikten
05-08-2012, 07:48 PM
you are all fucking morons. Community didnt kill server.

Staff did.

After the server launch the staff was all but non existent. Any changes that were made to the server by the staff were pushed in by the community. Not that those changes mattered since the staff did too little way too late.

All you people trying to shit on Nihilum for zerging out and how it ruined the server are full of shit. Stfu.. Bluebies did what bluebies thought would win the server and they won a dead box. grats.

All you tard bluebies who cry about how holo poisoned the community and ruined the server. Get your fucking heads out your ass. Your Nihilum leaders exploited MORE than holo. Your Nihilum leaders RMTd MORE than holo. Your Nihilum leaders 2 boxed MORE than holo. Only thing holo ever did was train a little bit (wahh cry about a train.. try playing Sullen Zek you pussy). Or they mightve corpse camp a few people (All those people that were CCd either appd or joined holo except retti).

Majority of people that left the server complained about 1 of 2 things.. Exp being too bad and lack of admin support. Things that were never truly resolved.

My whole point is stop being dumb pricks. If your gonna point fingers, point em the right direction. Right at Rogean. He is king troll for making you believe you had a worthy box to play. Server died when Lovely xploited to 50 and nothing was done about it.

And all that is said about vztz.. Atleast the vztz community lasted 4 years... And atleast the people on that server enjoyed those 4 years.. Red99 dead after 4 months.

Agreed, except it takes two to tango friend. Staff + community are symbiotic.

456
05-08-2012, 07:56 PM
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/192786d1326165921-project-1999-red-classic-everquest-pvp-holocaust-ban-red99.jpg

Tecumseh
05-08-2012, 07:58 PM
I gotta give Nihilum props. Exploited the fuck out of this server and RMT. Now number 1 guild.

hagard
05-08-2012, 08:23 PM
rogaine drove over the server

then put it in reverse and drove back over it

L o l

Server needs TDT

Gongshow
05-08-2012, 09:32 PM
And all that is said about vztz.. Atleast the vztz community lasted 4 years... And atleast the people on that server enjoyed those 4 years.. Red99 dead after 4 months.

Yup.

HarrisonStillPosting
05-09-2012, 12:49 AM
Hololost griefed off of the server, raging out in massive paragraphs of tears, oh the deliciousness.

Still crying about getting owned for cheating because the other kids started it. Lawl.

Nirgon
05-09-2012, 01:00 AM
She knows nothing about PvP, she knows even less about EQ.

Actually, I think if Amelinda were to take a board exam given by 5 of the harshest EQ neckbeards here, she would pass the test.

Nirgon
05-09-2012, 01:02 AM
Majority of people that left the server complained about 1 of 2 things.. Exp being too bad and lack of admin support. Things that were never truly resolved.


I complained about root/snare/stun resist cuz that shit was mad broke. Oh yeah and whirl... luls.

HarrisonStillPosting
05-09-2012, 01:06 AM
Admins were there when you guys exploited and then D D D DELETED your guild. That sounds like admin support to me.

jdklaw
05-09-2012, 02:33 AM
For everything you do.

For working on something that is not your 9-5 job.

For providing a place of nostalgia and doing your best at keeping it up.

For keeping it free.

http://dl10.glitter-graphics.net/pub/2111/2111870viwg9iyadu.gif

Akim
05-09-2012, 06:30 AM
I agree that all exploiters should be perma banned.
And let the legit players take over.

Hitchens
05-09-2012, 08:32 AM
Amelinda confirmed a negligent parent... kid screams and cries in the backround while she is on team speak preaching to players to respect GMs, and continues to grunt and sigh everytime the child has another fit, while she continues to ignore the little one.

Shitty, ignorant thing to say. There are valid reasons to not immediately respond to a child throwing a temper tantrum.

Lemons
05-09-2012, 08:56 AM
big Agatha here, from someone in the middle not in holo, and not in nihi, i called it all before it began, it was a combination of everything.
1. holo didnt realize what they where up against, and quite frankly once they realized they didnt want to put the effort in, it was done, they where done before most of them hit lvl 9.
2. there is defiently a bias toward vztz players here on p99, straight up ignored the things that made vztz great while the vztz preached and preached, and look at what we have now, global ooc, and guess what bet you yellow text isnt far behind.
3. straight up dumb ass decisions by GMs. first off there are a few people on a box like this that u cater to, and no matter what u do it, smedy, salty, xantille and rex... these where the people you talk to daily to make the server better... all of them basicaly shit listed and fought against. those are the people that would have brought 50 people each to your server, you fucked up BAD.
4. you clearly sided with nihi exploiters over holo exploiters, u went with the people that had already played your box, on blue u know what they are saying? why the fuck am i contesting mobs on blue99 when i can go on red, and not have any contest.
5. RMTing, to say you wernt aware of this back when server was still viable is just dumb, infact to have it go on so hugely some kind of server staff has to be complacent, there is just no way.

in short, server is fucked, but i enjoy it for what it has left, and i believe by adding yellow text it will infuse enough life into it to make it worth playing for another 6 months, but short of that nothing can actually save this server, its dead. its sinking.

HarrisonStillPosting
05-09-2012, 09:01 AM
Rofl this clown thinks people should cater to vztz retards like Salty, a known exploiter and lowlife piece of shit.

Entire half-literate paragraph of stupidity and tears invalidated.

Lemons
05-09-2012, 09:03 AM
the truth is the truth no matter how much you think someone is a fag bro.

HarrisonStillPosting
05-09-2012, 09:19 AM
If those people are so informed about what a server should be, why isn't there a server made by them?

That's right. Because they're clueless morons. Salty has never even been a part of EQ that wasn't progression or VZTZ. That is the level of retard you are claiming needs to be listened to. Your idea of a good server is 50 in 3 days, boxing, rampant exploiting, cheating, almost no pathing, selos working indoors, GMs giving people items, etc. I mean the list goes on about how huge of a joke your idea of a good server is.

Rust1d?
05-09-2012, 09:20 AM
Amelinda confirmed bad GM and bad parent. Also fat.

hijinks
05-09-2012, 09:52 AM
I always get a chuckle from these doom n gloom posts. Server failed, burn it down. Yadda yadda.

The server "failing" has little to do with the admins, or actions taken in game. Could it have been a smoother launch? Most definitely, the guard assist not being turned on was pure shit-- but you know what? the people who really wanted to play, played through it.

The 500-600 people at launch was such a bloated unrealistic number, and is so unfair to compare the number today to that number. Out of those 500 people, 250 of them were probably from blue (pre epic), 100 of them were probably different players who saw a new server on the list from Hidden Forest, and EZ Server, etc, that's 350 player pop that really never had any intention of being on the server for the long run. I would say maybe, maybe in the whole world you may find 200 single boxed people who are interested in playing EQ emu pvp, 50 of those were probably players from old EQ PvP live servers who were in it for the short term for nothing more than the initial nostalgia factor. Nostalgia wears off, new games such a Star Wars, Tera come out, and wala they disappear.. this isn't a conspiracy folks, these are the facts of wanting to be part of a 13yo emu community on a PvP server which is a minority.

Now, you're left with 125-150 people who would play EQ PvP hardcore long term, 25 or so of those in Holocaust quit. Server has been out for 6-7 months, I'm totally not suprised to see the population where it is today, even the most dedicated players I've met on the server are burnt and bored of classic and excited to try the new games coming out. I don't see how any of this is the admin's fault, get over it. As soon as D3 comes out May 15th and GW2 and we get another 25 person population drop primetime I suppose people will really be calling for the server to be shut down then? Relax, people will come back as the novelty of those new games wear out.

aborted
05-09-2012, 10:10 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51778473/jwE8n.gif

kindred
05-09-2012, 10:37 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/350o1zr.jpg

Bardalicious
05-09-2012, 10:37 AM
What hijinks said.

hijinks
05-09-2012, 10:51 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/350o1zr.jpg

Funny you should say that. I've been in Nihilum since late December with absolutely no association to the guild leaders and officers prior-- I was shocked to see their level of knowledge and tactics compared to other guilds.

You know. Have the tank position a raid mob away from the raid force, and position the raid force away from the powerful area effect spells so you only should be healing 1 target, the main tank. I was SO impressed by the use of these tactics, since I have never seen them before.

/sarcasm off

All jokes aside, in months of raiding I have never seen them position a mob where it doesn't melee/attack anybody with agro, EVER. All the nagafen fights I have participated have been with Nagafen in Naggy's lair, and either the tank or the entire raid group in the lair with him. In fact, the times I've seen mobs get stuck in walls we have been promptly ordered to camp off agro and reset the fight. I don't know where these rumors started, or if they did it initially when the server was fresh but to credit all their raid kills for the last 6 months to 'cheating' is absolutely insanity and giving the game mechanics far too much credit, game raid mechanics in classic EQ are an absolute joke.

Vermouth
05-09-2012, 11:03 AM
What hijinks said.

+1

Every new thread about why this server fails just adds to the fire. There are some things that can be done which we hope will add to the population but 5 new threads a day about this server failing surely does not.

Everyone has given their version of what will help the server. You know what really helps the server? Posting less negativity and playing more. If you don't enjoy it anymore then take a break and come back to it when you feel that you can. These boards reflect the server and with all this negativity the only thing that is accomplished is keeping new players away. The first thing I do and I am sure many others do before trying a game is check out their forums.

If I was a potential new player to R99 and I checked out these forums first, I probably wouldn't even bother downloading EQ. I log in, I have fun, and I try to get as many people I know to play the game, veterans to EQ or not. Do that instead of spreading this crap and the server will rebound.

Greegon
05-09-2012, 11:14 AM
There are valid reasons to not immediately respond to a child throwing a temper tantrum.

Yeah, don't want anyone to actually SEE you smack the shit out of him in public or anything. Take him back to the caarr:rolleyes:

Nirgon
05-09-2012, 11:26 AM
Coming from the guy hustling car parts online who claims one pvp death ever, I'll buy it

hijinks
05-09-2012, 11:27 AM
Funny thing is how a lot of these things were fixed. Guard assist was on long ago, resists from what I hear were tweaked so you don't get rooted with 120+mr anymore randomly. Global OOC is in. A scaled XP bonus was put in place, but apparently not good enuff. Pretty much everything that has been asked for with the exception of YT and 200% xp bonus across the board is in, but apparently the people who have quit over those things refuse to play unless there is a 'wipe' -- shea, let's punish the players who stuck through the bad times and stayed dedicated and make them start over. It was shocking to see people roll over and quit so easily, over really miniscule shit, suck it up and play, if not keep why raid on the parade of the people that do enjoy the server for what it is with these countless negative threads. Take your negativity somewhere else and truly move on.

Vile
05-09-2012, 11:32 AM
lol isn't this guy a known IRL scammer ^^^^^^^^^

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 11:34 AM
Somehow Hijinks is becoming likeable with his posts recently, not sure how to internalize this.

hijinks
05-09-2012, 11:38 AM
Somehow Hijinks is becoming likeable with his posts recently, not sure how to internalize this.

Regardless of what side of the fence your on, server health and integrity should be the one thing all players agree on and strive for, not against. Unlike others, I don't let emotions get the best of me and let the hate bleed into how I interact with people outside the game.

jdklaw
05-09-2012, 11:43 AM
Funny thing is how a lot of these things were fixed. Guard assist was on long ago, resists from what I hear were tweaked so you don't get rooted with 120+mr anymore randomly. Global OOC is in. Pretty much everything that has been asked for with the exception of YT and 200% xp bonus across the board is in, but apparently the people who have quit over those things refuse to play unless there is a 'wipe' -- shea, let's punish the players who stuck through the bad times and stayed dedicated and make them start over. It was shocking to see people roll over and quit so easily, over really miniscule shit, suck it up and play, if not keep why raid on the parade of the people that do enjoy the server for what it is with these countless negative threads. Take your negativity somewhere else and truly move on.

Lemons
05-09-2012, 12:22 PM
shits been patched but does that truely mean anything? to hold a population it needed to be what it needed to be, it took the server dieing a slow death to finally get ooc in. THE WHOLE TIME STAFF WAS SHOUTING THATS NOT CLASSIC, yea well no fuck a classic pvp server doesnt work. they have JUST come to this conclusion all the while vztz pals were shouting it....mind you the staff even waited until all of vztz left the server to implement it hoping not to get the big i told u so from the vztzers that left. not going to happen. going to point out all the stupidity and how exactly you bros killed the server.

lol community ying and yang a few posts back, that its the community and the admins fault for not making the server good.... no we told u what had to be done, what needed to be tweaked to make it a high pop server. you said classic, we said fine but its going to die, u said fuck it and rolled the dice. plain as day really.

Bardalicious
05-09-2012, 02:15 PM
Fast xp: no investment in character, more reason for Lolocaust players to try to get away with exploitin'. Shit dogs, we can be 50 again in a few days. Exploit away. Make multitudes of anon monks / characters to train with.

Bans?? LOL REROLL.

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 02:18 PM
No one said anything about making EXP in such a way that it would be 1000% bonus or instant 50.

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Mornin3.0
05-09-2012, 02:32 PM
Fast xp: no investment in character, more reason for Lolocaust players to try to get away with exploitin'. Shit dogs, we can be 50 again in a few days. Exploit away. Make multitudes of anon monks / characters to train with.

Bans?? LOL REROLL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNBfBr-OGU

Rydar
05-09-2012, 02:44 PM
lol watched the whole thing, funny stuff.

But how does a hell on earth like that exists in the age of teh internetz/p99 forum truth crusades???

Advisor
05-09-2012, 03:12 PM
If holocaust had won the fight for mobs they would be the ones playing on a 50 pop server farming fear and hate. Every vztz iteration was the same thing. What killed the server was them losing and then spouting doom and gloom that the server is over

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you think it was first to the punch???

Dude Holo has tons of lvl 50 members so does Imaginary Friends, they are all too scared to log in because they are still in denial that they think they can shut down mcdonalds by not ordering off their dollar menu every day. Except they forget they are fat addicted fucks who go on a binge (forums) and stuff their weak fragile pvp faces with greasy fatty foods.


?

PVP aint for them, they are confirmed all playing on blue99 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Bardalicious
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
PVP aint for them, they are confirmed all playing on blue99 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 04:34 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you think it was first to the punch???

Dude Holo has tons of lvl 50 members so does Imaginary Friends, they are all too scared to log in because they are still in denial that they think they can shut down mcdonalds by not ordering off their dollar menu every day. Except they forget they are fat addicted fucks who go on a binge (forums) and stuff their weak fragile pvp faces with greasy fatty foods.


?

PVP aint for them, they are confirmed all playing on blue99 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

wtb english translation

hagard
05-09-2012, 08:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you think it was first to the punch???

Dude Holo has tons of lvl 50 members so does Imaginary Friends, they are all too scared to log in because they are still in denial that they think they can shut down mcdonalds by not ordering off their dollar menu every day. Except they forget they are fat addicted fucks who go on a binge (forums) and stuff their weak fragile pvp faces with greasy fatty foods.


?

PVP aint for them, they are confirmed all playing on blue99 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

huh? ? ?

Stfu
05-09-2012, 11:18 PM
Server failed when they banz0r'd this character ....

http://youtu.be/_7EFQVSTWpM

Angkar
05-10-2012, 01:03 AM
In short... Hijinx, the reason for so many trying to burn it down is that the knowledge of how to successfully launch and run a PvP server was obvious, and available.

Yet it was ignored, and with amazing bias. So 95% or more of the potential player pool has been exposed to server and 82%? subsequently ran off, leaving R99 with 40? people online average.

HarrisonStillPosting
05-10-2012, 01:25 AM
Copying vztz failures would have been "successfully launching and running a pvp server"? rofl

How's vztz doing nowadays, anyways?

Diggles
05-10-2012, 02:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3Rcsc.gif

HarrisonStillPosting
05-10-2012, 04:24 AM
I've successfully put a fatty into a rage spamming an image macro, again.

It's too easy.

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-10-2012, 11:39 AM
Trollfail, fat boy.

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-10-2012, 11:45 AM
Fat kid is raging hard

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-10-2012, 11:58 AM
I wonder if this fat drooling troglodyte has ever had a thought that he expressed in words without looking for an image macro. Probably not. I can picture him now, grunting and bashing his face on his keyboard in a frothing rage, trying to figure out what a troglodyte is and what I meant by it.

dcapotos
05-10-2012, 12:04 PM
I wonder if this fat drooling troglodyte has ever had a thought that he expressed in words without looking for an image macro. Probably not. I can picture him now, grunting and bashing his face on his keyboard in a frothing rage, trying to figure out what a troglodyte is and what I meant by it.

Keep trying Harrison! Don't give up buddy! Maybe, just maybe, some day, somewhere, someone will actually give a flying fuck what you have to say!

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-10-2012, 12:23 PM
You are one sad lonely motherfucker if you're looking for acceptance on the internet. I pity you.

Jadian
05-10-2012, 03:13 PM
I clearly blame the people who built the sandbox for everyone to play in, not the immature kids who shit all over it, tried to keep people out, then decided to try to burn it down when they weren't having fun anymore.

Arillious
05-10-2012, 05:59 PM
There's an inherent problem with volunteer GM's. These volunteer GM's like the power and are compensating for their lack of power in real life.

The best GM is a GM that hates their job and is getting paid just enough to stick around. You hardly ever see them but know they are there.

Diggles
05-10-2012, 06:06 PM
Amelinda confirmed controlling as fuk ieq

Stfu
05-10-2012, 08:04 PM
Amelinda confirmed controlling as fuk ieq

She banned Omfg epic mage in Oracle robe. See, they didn't want a PVP server here, they just wanted drama. If they wanted a real PVP server they would have contacted me and I could have arranged it for them. Ruleset, XP level, and GM staff. But, I can't bless these kids if they banz0r me.

Stfu
05-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Harrison is not my son, he's my MF step son.

Beastro
05-12-2012, 09:14 AM
you are all fucking morons. Community didnt kill server.

Staff did.

Stop being goddamn babies.

Both the staff and community played a part in fucking this server up just as both did on VZTZ.