Language circles

[astarothel]

Sitting bored in front of the bank? Want to do something notably pointless? I am looking for likeminded people interested in trading languages for skillups, starting with the PC languages and moving on into some of the NPC languages. Post here, or let me know in game if you are interested.

[km2783]

I remember doing this back in the day while the group medded. I have Elven and Teir'Dal at my disposal, currently.

[Kinamur1999]

100%

You know i live at bank too ;)

Kinamur / Rosalyn

[Virgis]

Ah yes, I remember the language gibbrish orgies while waiting for/on the boats. Got many a skill up by proxy.

[Bruman]

Used to do this back in the day, definitely down with doing it again.

Of course, I'm human so I can't contribute much atm. I'll be on in about 2-3 hours though, in NFP if any of you are around and wanna share.

[Alienorg]

Sernity my rogue is up for this when not in a exp group. i tried to get a group going last week when i was bored at work but didn't find anyone.

[Bruman]

Yeah, I shouted in NFP and in OOC a time or two, but no bites. I did get some guildies to start sharing though, and I have Dark Speech, Troll, Elvish, and Thieves Cant.

[Elenwenn]

I would love to learn languages!!!

So if you ever seen me on and I am not doing anything, I would love to learn some with you! :)

~Elenwenn~

[astarothel]

Maxed:
Common Tongue
Barbarian
Erudin
Elvish
Dark Elvish
Ogre
Gnomish
Halfling
Troll

Thieves Cant

Dark Speech
Elder Elvish

In a brilliant use of game mechanics here's how people can easily work together to cap out NPC languages. Rather than a single person dumping in 100 training points, by splitting it up between people you can save a lot. Say in a group of 4, one person trains to 25, then spams. Then another trains 25-50 and spams the group up. Then another trains 50-75 and spams the group up. Then another does 75-100 and tops everyone off. I know there's some cost disparity in training at levels, but the idea is still there, and the more people willing to do it, the more skill points and money is spread out. The best part is, if you don't want to waste your main's skill points that is what alts are for! With a little coordination we can all be polyglots :D

[Taluvill]

Would love to get in on this, i have my half elf druid, probably have elven and common. not sure what else he'd have

[astarothel]

Alternately, if you have dumped training points into one of the non player character trained only languages, and would be willing to share them with other people please post them in this thread as well.

[Brut]

Got 3 toons all with some 20 training points, gonna check on what a lvl13 toon can learn of the exotic ones and go with that.

[astarothel]

All you need to do to have a noobie be able to learn an exotic is expose them to it. For example, I have 1 in every language. To get an alt to say learn Elder Dragon from his trainer I just have to spam enough for one language skill up, and then they can train the rest as normal.

[Jete]

I am totally in!!

[astarothel]

The following languages (AFAIK) are NPC only, and as such will require skillpoints to be invested in them from people.

Old Erudian
Froglok
Goblin
Gnoll
Combine Tongue
Elder Teir'dal
Lizardman
Orcish
Faerie
Dragon
Elder Dragon
Vah Shir

[Alienorg]

you don't have to invest more then 1 point an any language to be abel to get it 100.

with a skill of 1 you can teach an other player and your self up to a skill of 2 (1 higher then your own skill when you last zoned) then all you have to do is zone and you can teach someone 1 higher then you current skill, so you can teach yourself and someone else up to 100 all you have to do is zone 98 times.
You can only learn skills when you are in a group and when a group member is in the same zone as you.

[astarothel]

you don't have to invest more then 1 point an any language to be abel to get it 100.

with a skill of 1 you can teach an other player and your self up to a skill of 2 (1 higher then your own skill when you last zoned) then all you have to do is zone and you can teach someone 1 higher then you current skill, so you can teach yourself and someone else up to 100 all you have to do is zone 98 times.
You can only learn skills when you are in a group and when a group member is in the same zone as you.

Yep, this is what Brut and I did today. after a bunch of hit and misses for figuring out the best way to communicate our skillups and technique, and some odd double skillups from what was probably flooding the server we got each of us up to 15+ in NPC languages.

[astarothel]

With all the effort in doing it the aforementioned way an army of level 1 and 2 alts paying their trainings for it is probably the much better way to go about it, at least for the lower levels.

[Brut]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/skills.html?skill=12&page=1&howmany=50#msg10225908671147

Was thinking it'd be a bug that had to zone between each skillup, but looks like it's classic. =p

[Lazortag]

What's the use in learning a new language exactly? Or is this one of those.. "fun" things?

[Brut]

What's the use in learning a new language exactly? Or is this one of those.. "fun" things?
Ohyes I forgot all these languages/tradeskills/factions/other stuff are complete waste of time, I should be in the middle of killing a dragon and getting a bigger faster sword!

Thank you for reminding for me what is "fun" and what is not good man.

[Ossigor]

Only thing I like to do while sitting around a circle with other men isn't appropriate to talk about here. Send me tell in game.

[JazzineCleric]

Have a question about the language stuff. I seem to remember at one time you used to be able to use a macro to make the learning go by faster. Is it still working that way or do macros not work anymore? If so...how do you get the macros to work? lol

[Weekapaug]

Have a question about the language stuff. I seem to remember at one time you used to be able to use a macro to make the learning go by faster. Is it still working that way or do macros not work anymore? If so...how do you get the macros to work? lol

We noticed the other night that macroed multi-lined groupchat messages do nothing for language skillups but manually spamming a single line does.

For the record, in classic, making a multi-lined macro for this purpose was the most used and accepted way to increase language skill for a group and was commonly done. The way it currently works on P99 is most certainly, NOT classic.

In order to reduce spam, however, mult-lined /ooc and /shout macros did not work.

[Reiker]

Maxed:
Common Tongue
Barbarian
Erudin
Elvish
Dark Elvish
Ogre
Gnomish
Halfling
Troll

Thieves Cant

Dark Speech
Elder Elvish

In a brilliant use of game mechanics here's how people can easily work together to cap out NPC languages. Rather than a single person dumping in 100 training points, by splitting it up between people you can save a lot. Say in a group of 4, one person trains to 25, then spams. Then another trains 25-50 and spams the group up. Then another trains 50-75 and spams the group up. Then another does 75-100 and tops everyone off. I know there's some cost disparity in training at levels, but the idea is still there, and the more people willing to do it, the more skill points and money is spread out. The best part is, if you don't want to waste your main's skill points that is what alts are for! With a little coordination we can all be polyglots :D

Not sure if this was posted yet, but on live you can actually teach 1 skill point above your skill. For example if you have 50 Orcish, you can teach someone to 51 Orcish. I believe they had to zone to bump you back up to 52 though, although I'm not entirely sure on that. But it was possible to max all the languages as long as someone started with a single point in them.

[JazzineCleric]

Actually, I was doing some research last night and believe I found the answer to the macro. In the first line of the macro, you need to put /lang <#> and then in the rest of the lines just enter whatever for group chat.

[maximum]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/skills.html?skill=12&page=1&howmany=50#msg10225908671147

Was thinking it'd be a bug that had to zone between each skillup, but looks like it's classic. =p

Hell.

[Nagash]

On Live, one could teach a langage to someone else up to 1 point above their skill level (for example player A has a Teir'Dal skill of 66, he could teach player B this skill up to 67). It made no sense whatsoever but could be used in an interesting fashion: you only needed to have 1 player with a skill of 1 to increase his skill and others' up to 100 (player A teaches player B up to a skill of 2, player B then teaches player A up to a skill of 3, etc...). We did it with some friends on Live, took ages but was definitely doable.

Edit: didn't see Reiker beat me to it :)

Nagash/Petitpas

[eqravenprince]

Firiona Vie had it so you can only get 5 skillups per hour. I kind of liked it, I ended sometimes having to speak through emotes.