Velious + LDoN would be perfect

[Liukang]

looking back when i use to play. loved velious , didnt love no other expansion until LDoN,
hated bazaar , and was thinking maybe allow people to 2 box just 2 box only like certian days of the week , like let Nilbog and rog check see which days has the lowest population and then allow people to 2 box on them days wouldnt hurt nothing

[Jellybelly]

Not gonna happen. Either Two-Boxing 24/7 or not at all. Oh and if we aren't getting Luclin then LDoN isn't gonna happen. Hell, LDoN made me quit and I loved Luclin/PoP.

[Liukang]

LDoN just gave us something to do all the time

[Clark]

Velious and Luclin would make me a very happy camper. Luclin was definately one of my favorite expansions.

[Liukang]

i didnt like it at all for some reason like PoP alot better hated the whole flagging idea but i mean all n all EQ was alwayz fun but had my best years during velious

[Flash]

Which expansion introduced Beastlords? They were my favorite class, and I'd KILL for them to be playable on P99.

[Hailto]

Which expansion introduced Beastlords? They were my favorite class, and I'd KILL for them to be playable on P99.

Luclin

[Liukang]

yea beastlords was nice ... very nice

[shooteneq1]

Luclin would give more to do just from AA alone over ldon.

[Austrianna]

Velious and Luclin would make me a very happy camper. Luclin was definately one of my favorite expansions.

Same here, I have fond memories of xping in Luclin, though Velious was my favorite expansion.

Edit: the key quests were ASS though and the worst part

[darktengu69]

Vex thal was one of the funnest places and had some cool items. up to luclin would be cool minus the bazaar

[Austrianna]

Vex thal was one of the funnest places and had some cool items. up to luclin would be cool minus the bazaar

I loved raiding VT ... The only place I could pull raid mobs as a cleric! DA blob pulls ftw!

[fadetree]

Luclin would be ok. Beyond that, not so much.

[darktengu69]

hell ill be happy with velious raiding ntov :)

[Atmas]

Everyone has their opninions on this. I loved Ssra and AAs, hated the VT zone after doing it a ton of times, but loved the loot. I also liked PoP minus PoK.

[rafaone]

Luclin without bazaar would be epic.

PD: Rip Paludal Caverns out too, ofc

[Nirgon]

VT for no rules zone like VP

[HeallunRumblebelly]

looking back when i use to play. loved velious , didnt love no other expansion until LDoN,
hated bazaar , and was thinking maybe allow people to 2 box just 2 box only like certian days of the week , like let Nilbog and rog check see which days has the lowest population and then allow people to 2 box on them days wouldnt hurt nothing

lol, i had a post typed, then i realize, is troll :3

[mwatt]

If they ever do go beyond Velious - and there have been hints that they might possibly - it will be customized content to some degree.

For myself, I'd like them to leave this server alone and start a new one that has a customized Luclin. It would be Luclin, sans bazaar and with every alien replaced by something more D&D-like, to restore/maintain the Fantasy theme. I would allow people to copy ONE character over one time.

[Messianic]

Luclin without bazaar would be epic.

[darktengu69]

VT loot was awesome specially on my bard i loved the masks, ssra was fun but easy, and PC caverns were awesome i remember leveling their on my noob iksar BL just to explore the zone it was fun so was grimling. farming raptors in dsp and creepy confusing Maidens eye. like i said luclin would be a great stopping point for this server basic aa no free ports to everywhere(made me forget my way around) and no bazaar and if they did VT like a free for all zone but with pvp like in Anarchy online like Camelot would make it interesting racing for raid mobs

[Flash]

GM's, can we please eventually have Luclin without bazaar or Paludal Caverns? I want my Beastlord. ;;

[Harrison]

VT loot was awesome, VT the zone itself was atrocious. Worst zone ever created, worst unfinished piece of shit design, ever. (and let's not forget summoning a mount in VT in the beginning popped the entire zone on you at once...lol)

[darktengu69]

i forgot about horsies move the horse vendor out of bazaar so i can haz bard speed on other characters

[maahes]

PoP is what ruined EQ for me. It was absolutely perfect expansion and the RAID progression was just amazing. It ruined EQ cause nothing they could ever do after PoP could possibly be close.

LDoN was a damn good time as well.

[Slave]

What do you stinking antibazaarites have against the bazaar anyway? Other than that it is merely ten to thirty times more fun than sitting around EC auctioning.

[Swish]

Sooo... how long til cats on the moon? ^_^

[Cecily]

I don't think space cats were classic. Would love to see Luclin again, but yeah... Velious!

[fadetree]

pfft lets get Velious in first....

[darktengu69]

but i want samurai pizza cats

[mwatt]

What do you stinking antibazaarites have against the bazaar anyway? Other than that it is merely ten to thirty times more fun than sitting around EC auctioning.

My personal feeling is that it greatly lessens the need for players to talk to players. A certain amount of forced socializing helps hold the playerbase to together and can form new acquaintances, which leads to more grouping possibilities, etc.

It will be argued by some that it is actually bad for the "economy" as well. I am not going to go into the pros and cons of that at this time.

[fadetree]

I want Luclin, but with no cats and no bazaar and no beastlords and no paludal. Also no grimlings, they were just stupid. Plus none of those dumb humphrey bogart lookin vampires. Oh and no moon.

[porigromus]

Plenty of servers with the horrid expansions pass velious. Let's let this one be ruined after how long people have clamored it. Cats on a moon, mix matched graphics, nexus, bazaar ... Yah

[Unusen]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

You can't have LDoN without having PoP too.

Reason #1: having LDoN without PoP too means you're really trivializing pre-VT raid gear. Most of NToV--which you know was *THE SHIT* in terms of gear when Velious was current--would be a waste of time compared to what you're getting off of LDoN merchants.

Reason #2: Most of the LDoN raids would be unbeatable at level 60, especially without VT gear. They're all capped at 54 players so zerging the shit out of them isn't an option, either. You're not going to be able to tank the namers in this one http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=3783 for example at level 60 even in full VT.

Reason #3: The prize of the LDoN raids are the augments, which are all either type 3 or type 8. Items with type 3 slots can be purchased from LDoN adventure merchants or dropped from LDoN raid chests, but type 8 slots are only found in plane of time gear (and in later expacs). Meaning most of the augs you're getting from LDoN raids you literally can not use.

Reason #4: All of the high end LDoN merchant stuff is recommended level of 65. All of the raid drops are required level of 65.

If you wanted to do LDoN without having PoP first you'd have to customize it to the point of almost starting from scratch. Implementing the current iteration of LDoN wouldn't work for level 60 characters.

[Slave]

My personal feeling is that it greatly lessens the need for players to talk to players. A certain amount of forced socializing helps hold the playerbase to together and can form new acquaintances, which leads to more grouping possibilities, etc.

It will be argued by some that it is actually bad for the "economy" as well. I am not going to go into the pros and cons of that at this time.

I'm sorry, but on a server like this with no two-boxing, it can only improve character interaction. I interact a lot more in groups than I do shift-upping in EC and asking people how much X item is. If I wasn't in EC, I'd be out playing the GAME.

Saying that it decreases interaction is a totally ridiculous reason to poopoo the bazaar on P99 and if you thought about it for less than a minute you'd see why.

[Liukang]

I want Luclin, but with no cats and no bazaar and no beastlords and no paludal. Also no grimlings, they were just stupid. Plus none of those dumb humphrey bogart lookin vampires. Oh and no moon.

i want a fully loaded pizzard but no sausage , cheese , mushrooms , peppers, onions , or crust

[mwatt]

I'm sorry, but on a server like this with no two-boxing, it can only improve character interaction. I interact a lot more in groups than I do shift-upping in EC and asking people how much X item is. If I wasn't in EC, I'd be out playing the GAME.

Saying that it decreases interaction is a totally ridiculous reason to poopoo the bazaar on P99 and if you thought about it for less than a minute you'd see why.

Ah you assume (too) much. I have thought about it - and for much longer than one minute. Beginning with the obvious decline of EQ (Luclin/PoP eras) and since EQ was dethroned by WoW, and varioius other WoW-clones have come onto the scene, I've thought a lot about how and why original recipe EQ was different (IMO better) than these newer games. There is a concept known as "The Vision (tm)" that encapsulates the philosphy of the original EQ (yes McQuaid is not now what he was, but that is beside the point, and anyway, it wasn't just his vision). There were several important ingredients in the Vision, one of them being the need to encourage group interaction. As I said before, I think the Bazaar goes against this.

You give an example of why YOU - a self confessed grouper - loose time grouping because there is no Bazaar. But not everyone is like you. The need to deal and bargain with sellers and the enforcement of a global gathering spot helps encourage social interaction amongst people who are not heavy groupers to begin with. Granted it is easier and faster to grab something from the Bazaar ... but the success of "The Vision (tm)" is not at all about what is the EASIEST thing for the player. Quite the contrary.

If we want to keep discussing this, we should spawn a separate thread. This is really derailing now.

[Liukang]

my point of this tread is i enjoyed EQ threw velious then got bored kinda and didnt really have any more fun till LDoN

[Danyelle]

I want Luclin, but with no cats and no bazaar and no beastlords and no paludal. Also no grimlings, they were just stupid. Plus none of those dumb humphrey bogart lookin vampires. Oh and no moon.

How even

[Galelor]

luclin graphics are fucking terrible

If you want anything that resembles good graphics, it is time to switch games...

[Liukang]

i use luclin graphics now some are terrible but they are better than the original

[formallydickman]

i use luclin graphics now some are terrible but they are better than the original

I honestly can't understand how anyone can think the Luclin graphics are better than original. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess.

[Liukang]

i think iksar graphic is 100% better

[formallydickman]

i think iksar graphic is 100% better

ah, I'll give you that. Ogre is horrid and embarrassing though.

[Liukang]

yes like i said lol some r bad but i played EQ2 for 5 years mye yes cant handle 1999 pixels

[rafaone]

I want Luclin, but with no cats and no bazaar and no beastlords and no paludal. Also no grimlings, they were just stupid. Plus none of those dumb humphrey bogart lookin vampires. Oh and no moon.

Owned.

For the ones saying the Luclin's graphic not cool, i dont agree, just ogres and trolls sucks, rest are fairly ok.

Would be nice to see this server going post Velius, but dont know for certain what expansion would be ok to maintain the old players VS new player income. Just too many opinions and points of view here. (And only one counts ;))

[falkun]

For the ones saying the Luclin's graphic not cool, i dont agree, just ogres and trolls sucks, rest are fairly ok.

High Elves were horrible. Wood elves were horrible. Half elves were horrible. Velious plate was so much better than anything offered by Luclin graphics.

[Danyelle]

Wut r opinions guise?