How much was 200k Platinum before Kunark?

[wootEq]

Does anyone know how much 200k platinum must have been in the days before Kunark.. how much PP circulated on servers back then?

[falkun]

200kPP was 200kPP, considering it has no real-life value...

[Ravager]

200k could buy you 20 HBC's just before Kunark's release if that helps any.

[Safon]

This thread screams rmt

[Chippy]

This thread screams rmt

[Slycen]

On live servers, I remember if someone had 150k they were accused of hacking.

Pre RoK of course.

[Danyelle]

Plat may not have had "real life value" but it was an economy in-game. And like all currency it can become inflated etc. It's value changes over time. 200k back in Classic is probably ~1.5 million today in value. It also depends on the server. Plat on the Test server (due to the /testcopy "bug" that I'm sure they left in on purpose) has no real value. People hand out millions to new people on the server because they can just copy that amount back later.

[Lubian]

Plat on the Test server (due to the /testcopy "bug" that I'm sure they left in on purpose) has no real value.
Just as a minor note: They let people transfer off of Test before allowing pp to copy to Test.

[Barkingturtle]

Does anyone know how much 200k platinum must have been in the days before Kunark..

About two bucks.

Of course, back then gas was only ninety-nine cents a gallon, too.

[Harrison]

About two bucks.

Of course, back then gas was only ninety-nine cents a gallon, too.

200k would have sold for hundreds, if not over a thousand plus, before Kunark.

In Planes of Power, inflation and all, platinum was selling for $1 per 1kpp or more. It fluctuated often.

[Silentone]

200k would have sold for hundreds, if not over a thousand plus, before Kunark.

In Planes of Power, inflation and all, platinum was selling for $1 per 1kpp or more. It fluctuated often.

^^ This guys knows his RMT

[Harrison]

I RMT'd hard on live. I 2box'd a CLR/ENC combo from Kunark to PoP.

RMTing didn't run the chance of shutting down Everquest for thousands of people who enjoyed it as a hobby. RMT here does, and that's why I don't do it. I'm not in it to ruin the fun for hundreds or thousands of people, just to get what I want.

Your guild does.

Edit add to laugh at this faggot:

Harry actually got busted once for RMT purchasing on blue so he should know. Meanwhile he jumps down anyone's throat even suspected of cheating. pot kettle black derp.

LOL I don't know where you fabricated this from, but if this were true it would be plastered everywhere, and all of my accounts would be banned. None of them are.

[JayDee]

200k was like WHOA now its like whoa

[Silentone]

I RMT'd hard on live. I 2box'd a CLR/ENC combo from Kunark to PoP.

RMTing didn't run the chance of shutting down Everquest for thousands of people who enjoyed it as a hobby. RMT here does, and that's why I don't do it. I'm not in it to ruin the fun for hundreds or thousands of people, just to get what I want.

Your guild does.

Edit add to laugh at this faggot:



LOL I don't know where you fabricated this from, but if this were true it would be plastered everywhere, and all of my accounts would be banned. None of them are.

Why you gettin mad at me dog, i was just giving you props.. and u were talking about live I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything on p99. sheez

[bled12345]

So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

[azeth]

Is this thread for real?

I wiped my ass with 200k before RoK.

[Spitty]

I wonder who ended up with your ass pennies.

[batkiller]

Nobody had that kind of money before Kunark unless they cheated or were a total loser. There just wasn't that much loot to lust after. The best gear was stuff like an SMR, Ykesha, TBB, FBSS, and the sword from the King. I can't even remember what they were worth but they were all worth less than 10k. And everyone I knew in real life and and in my guild, would not spend money on stuff like that. If you needed an item like that for your character, then you got in groups and camped however long it took until you got one.

There were some trader types who used to buy and sell stuff and made good money doing that. I had one friend who did that and ended up with some good cash. But then, the time he spent screwing around in EC trying to make good deals, was time that I spent leveling up my Necro. After a few months he had amazing gear and lots of money but he was level 20 something, meanwhile I was level 50 and I could farm SMR robes by myself, and I ended up with an entire bag full of them at one point. I think I sold them for around 5k each or something like that, but they took a long time to sell.

The only other type of person I ever saw with a lot of money, was the douchebag type who used to practically live at the Frenzy camp. No matter what time you logged in and went to Lower Guk, he was always there with a group. He got an FBSS on his main character, but he would roll on it every time it dropped and sell it or give it to his twinks or whatever. And just by farming that one top item he probably ended up with a lot of money. Maybe 20k or 30k or whatever. But really there seemed to be no motivation to do that because nobody really needed money like that. There was no item you couldn't just go and camp or get in a group and get it. Money was kind of pointless unless you wanted to start up a tradeskill or something.

Then along comes the planes and the value of items dropped a bit. Because the top items the top players wanted were all no drop planes items. And then once people (like me) got a full set of planes gear, like my two bard weapons from Maestro, we all sold our twin Ykeshas to whoever wanted them for a good price because we didn't need them anymore anyway. And I even remember a lot of us who made it to level 50 at this point became very generous because we didn't really need anything. I remember killing stuff in Lower Guk just for fun, and I would end up with a bag full of items and I would just give stuff to friends and guildies. I remember I gave a guy my Lambent BP, and another guy my TBB and some Azure Sleeves.

Then along comes Kunark and everything changed a lot. I took a break from the game for a while and then came back and made a necro and raced it through the levels to catch up my friends. A few months later I was 50+ and I remember being in a group in Sebilis. Some random item dropped (Cobalt armor?) off some random mob, not even in one of the main camps, and I won the roll on it. I didn't even know what it was worth, but I sold it later for something like 15k. It was the most money I had ever had, and it was from some trash drop. The bigger more key items like the Froggy Bonecaster Robe were worth a lot more, and the huge items like the Hiero Cloak and the Necklace of Superiority were worth a fortune. Although even at this point, 200k would still have been considered a very large amount of money, but with the high value of stuff in Kunark, it wouldn't have taken all that long to save that much if you were really determined. Not that I can think of any reason why you would want all that money.

[finalgrunt]

Nobody had that kind of money before Kunark unless they cheated or were a total loser. There just wasn't that much loot to lust after. The best gear was stuff like an SMR, Ykesha, TBB, FBSS, and the sword from the King. I can't even remember what they were worth but they were all worth less than 10k. And everyone I knew in real life and and in my guild, would not spend money on stuff like that. If you needed an item like that for your character, then you got in groups and camped however long it took until you got one.

There were some trader types who used to buy and sell stuff and made good money doing that. I had one friend who did that and ended up with some good cash. But then, the time he spent screwing around in EC trying to make good deals, was time that I spent leveling up my Necro. After a few months he had amazing gear and lots of money but he was level 20 something, meanwhile I was level 50 and I could farm SMR robes by myself, and I ended up with an entire bag full of them at one point. I think I sold them for around 5k each or something like that, but they took a long time to sell.

The only other type of person I ever saw with a lot of money, was the douchebag type who used to practically live at the Frenzy camp. No matter what time you logged in and went to Lower Guk, he was always there with a group. He got an FBSS on his main character, but he would roll on it every time it dropped and sell it or give it to his twinks or whatever. And just by farming that one top item he probably ended up with a lot of money. Maybe 20k or 30k or whatever. But really there seemed to be no motivation to do that because nobody really needed money like that. There was no item you couldn't just go and camp or get in a group and get it. Money was kind of pointless unless you wanted to start up a tradeskill or something.

Then along comes the planes and the value of items dropped a bit. Because the top items the top players wanted were all no drop planes items. And then once people (like me) got a full set of planes gear, like my two bard weapons from Maestro, we all sold our twin Ykeshas to whoever wanted them for a good price because we didn't need them anymore anyway. And I even remember a lot of us who made it to level 50 at this point became very generous because we didn't really need anything. I remember killing stuff in Lower Guk just for fun, and I would end up with a bag full of items and I would just give stuff to friends and guildies. I remember I gave a guy my Lambent BP, and another guy my TBB and some Azure Sleeves.

Then along comes Kunark and everything changed a lot. I took a break from the game for a while and then came back and made a necro and raced it through the levels to catch up my friends. A few months later I was 50+ and I remember being in a group in Sebilis. Some random item dropped (Cobalt armor?) off some random mob, not even in one of the main camps, and I won the roll on it. I didn't even know what it was worth, but I sold it later for something like 15k. It was the most money I had ever had, and it was from some trash drop. The bigger more key items like the Froggy Bonecaster Robe were worth a lot more, and the huge items like the Hiero Cloak and the Necklace of Superiority were worth a fortune. Although even at this point, 200k would still have been considered a very large amount of money, but with the high value of stuff in Kunark, it wouldn't have taken all that long to save that much if you were really determined. Not that I can think of any reason why you would want all that money.

Diamonds, Blue diamonds and Black Sapphires. Made a ton of cash thanks to Dino. Seafuries were good too. Pre Kunark, it was 1k per hour on average for whoever wanted to farm cash, no skill required. Over few months, you could get that 200k no problem.

[oldhead]

During Kunark jboots sold for 10,000pp or $350 on ebay.
I remember because I was thinking about paying money for them for my monk alt instead of camping them. Ended up just buying them for 10,000pp

So 10kpp = $350

200kpp was a lot of $$$$$$$$$$

[Harrison]

That varied server to server.

I don't know the prices on Classic platinum because I wasn't even aware of the market back then, I was naive.

Once I figured out my shit was worth $$, it was a blast. Play for a few hours, make $100, win. (When you're 15ish)

[Loke]

Is this thread for real?

I wiped my ass with 200k before RoK.

^^^^

I remember at one point Athiyk had well over 500k months before PoSky came out. It was a long wait for Kunark.

[Spitty]

Are we talking live? That kind of money was pretty realistic for most players that put 20-30 hours a week into EQ, let alone people that played constantly.

You could make it by camping a certain money camp, playing around in Gfay/EC with your cash or doing various quests over and over again. There were options.

[JenJen]

even my ranger farmed almost 80k over a few months of camping lasna cheroon pre kunark.

[Hollywood]

Plat may not have had "real life value" but it was an economy in-game. And like all currency it can become inflated etc. It's value changes over time. 200k back in Classic is probably ~1.5 million today in value. It also depends on the server. Plat on the Test server (due to the /testcopy "bug" that I'm sure they left in on purpose) has no real value. People hand out millions to new people on the server because they can just copy that amount back later.


The inflation you speak of only applies to an economy that's on going or unabridged.
The economy in the emulated server has nothing to do with one on the real servers and is not persistent throughout. What people are playing now is an emulation of how it was THEN.

200k is not 1.5 million
200k is about 200k

A manastone was about 150k
A lamentation blade was about 5-15k
Fungi tunics were about 50-80k
and on and on


A) The cycle time and availability of commodity in the market. Since the population is low, most items are not new to market, but recycled. This doesn't change the price directly, though due to the limited supply, whenever demand rises, so will the price until the supply changes.

B) How readily available money is, and that's further broken down by how it is obtained whether through selling items or other means such as looting, vendor merchant sales and gifts/donations from other players.


These are the things that shape and mold the economy.

Either way, the values are still very similar to how they were pre Kunark, during Kunark and during Velious.

[Clyve]

On Tribunal we (cousin and I) used to sell 1kpp for $30-40, and on Rallos we used to sell 1k for $20-30. For whatever reason people on Rallos were paying less for it, likely because they could lose it.

[Lagaidh]

I remember in late 1999 or early 2000 that the exchange rate for RMT on my server was 40p to the dollar. It blew my mind, and does to this day, that a virtual currency had more value that most currencies in the real world. This was before Sony and eBay came to an understanding.

[Safon]

You can make 1k an hour on seafuries can you not? 20 - 30 dollars for 1k seems crazy good for the seller. Maybe seafuries were so overcamped you couldn't make anywhere near that kind of pp during live?

[Heavydrop]

Just as a minor note: They let people transfer off of Test before allowing pp to copy to Test.

When did they allow /testcopy to copy plat? When I played there (August 2007 until around March 2011) it would only move items and those items became no drop. Must have been before or after my time there (loved it there btw) :)

[Arclanz]

Although I can't remember just how much; plat was worth a lot prior to the Chardrok bank dupe-bug; which caused an enormous amount of plat to flood the server in a short time. A RL friend of mine (who I never played EQ with) only used EQ as an RMT outlet; and he told me that in just one day, the amount of plat for sale by Yanis on all servers went from a finite amount to millions and millions. He said "there must be some dupe bug." And there was...and SOE eventually found it; in the Chardok bank. And hundreds of accounts were banned. LOL. Ah the humanity.

[Slycen]

Nobody had that kind of money before Kunark unless they cheated or were a total loser. There just wasn't that much loot to lust after. The best gear was stuff like an SMR, Ykesha, TBB, FBSS, and the sword from the King. I can't even remember what they were worth but they were all worth less than 10k.

FBSS pre-RoK = 15k
Lucky if u could get 2 Yaks for 20k
/shrug