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lilyanna
07-22-2012, 03:46 PM
Sirken new Server GM? Just noticed your new title on a post you made and checked and Amelinda now showing blue? Maybe I missed a post about it somewhere or has it not been made official yet ?

pasi
07-22-2012, 03:50 PM
Sirken is good people. He was originally picked up to GM red, but that server has been a ghost town for months. Good choice to keep him around for blue.

Dullah
07-22-2012, 04:02 PM
Sirken has been an excellent GM on red. Both him and Ambrotos have made p99 a better place.

Arkanjil
07-22-2012, 04:44 PM
Amelinda probably got sick of babysitting people all these years. :)

getsome
07-22-2012, 05:05 PM
Amelinda probably got sick of babysitting people all these years. :)

Candy business got bought out by nabisco is what i heard.

Tr0llb0rn
07-22-2012, 05:47 PM
Sirken did a good job on red.

But i'm not seeing any info about GM status changes either, am I blind or is there no thread?

canker
07-22-2012, 05:51 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showgroups.php

Autotune
07-22-2012, 05:58 PM
Sirken new Server GM? Just noticed your new title on a post you made and checked and Amelinda now showing blue? Maybe I missed a post about it somewhere or has it not been made official yet ?

http://www.project1999.org/index.php?pageid=about

pretty official. When they update this, you know it's official.

lilyanna
07-22-2012, 06:02 PM
http://www.project1999.org/index.php?pageid=about

pretty official. When they update this, you know it's official.

Oh yep seems to be

Litharack_Necro
07-22-2012, 07:01 PM
Can red server has kunark? preez?

India
07-22-2012, 10:36 PM
<3 Sirken the best!

Nilbog is pretty damn cool too

That's all :)

Metallikus
07-22-2012, 10:56 PM
Grats Sirken

Visual
07-22-2012, 10:59 PM
Sirken is good peeps

ElanoraBryght
07-22-2012, 11:18 PM
She still has mod over Petition / Exploit.
Which means Petition / Exploits are getting the same "response" they've been getting since... about 6 months before the exodus began.

Tarathiel
07-22-2012, 11:47 PM
say what you will, but i will miss amelinda, she's been nothing but kind and fair with me and has put up with some pretty dumb shit in my petitions. the opinion of a bunch of online nobodies who dont even play here anymore means shit to me. farewell amelinda and thanks for all you did for the server

Tarathiel
07-22-2012, 11:59 PM
You should be asking why Amelinda just got demoted into the ground actually.

old news is old... amelinda still did a shit ton more for this server than any of the forum trolls who just want to stir up drama. play here or dont play here doesnt matter to me either way.... just dont be a childish little bitch and try to spoil it for the rest of us imo

p.s. im not directing this anyone or any event in particular.... but you should know if this applies to you

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 12:02 AM
Did amelinda say why she was stepping down?

It does seem odd to just leave without at least saying something :confused:

getsome
07-23-2012, 02:59 AM
Amelinda was accused of some actions that would probable be deemed as not acceptable for someone on the staff to take part in. The details were posted here and removed. If you want to know, you should check out the foh forums. As for the change in her role, that is a staff decision which will not be publically discussed if the past is any indication of how things play out.

Autotune
07-23-2012, 03:11 AM
Amelinda was accused of some actions that would probable be deemed as not acceptable for someone on the staff to take part in. The details were posted here and removed. If you want to know, you should check out the foh forums. As for the change in her role, that is a staff decision which will not be publically discussed if the past is any indication of how things play out.

Or she could have simply stepped down because of all the bullshit. Who would want to deal with an entire guild of sore asshole losers?

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 03:26 AM
Or she could have simply stepped down because of all the bullshit. Who would want to deal with an entire guild of sore asshole losers?

I wonder how many times you will have to flame people before you get this thread moved to RnF ;p

you are exempt from forum rules though so i expect the thread to be moved sooner than later.


The silence on the subject only lends credibility to the various accusations out there. Best way to handle any situation is full disclosure and own the truth. Protects you legally and ethically imo.

JenJen
07-23-2012, 10:58 AM
if you're that interested just go read the forums of a certain ex-big EQ guild duhh

Autotune
07-23-2012, 11:43 AM
if you're that interested just go read the forums of a certain ex-big EQ guild duhh

I read it, just a poor screenshot with nothing else to go with it. Surprised they didn't take Rogean's real name from that interview awhile back and shop it on some paypal trade logs.

Rogean
07-23-2012, 12:09 PM
The silence on the subject only lends credibility to the various accusations out there.

Apparently you haven't been around long enough to know that we don't simply spill out information because we get trolled into doing so. We don't feed trolls, and we have plenty of them that will stop at nothing to pour assumptions that even they know is false, only to rally the troll feeders into demanding we divulge information. Been down that road enough times before, and frankly it got tiring extremely fast when Troll #1 claims something and we have to correct them.

Having said that, I'm not confirming or denying any recent activities and it's not to say some accusations may be true, but I will say that what is important is if we receive information regarding any particular situation that needs to be handled, it will be investigated internally, and handled. Just because we don't post a big fat message on the front page saying so doesn't mean nothing happened.

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 03:35 PM
I read it, just a poor screenshot with nothing else to go with it. Surprised they didn't take Rogean's real name from that interview awhile back and shop it on some paypal trade logs.

I agree, the evidence didn't look rock solid to me.

I just felt that amelinda stepping down as GM without at least saying something like

"I no longer have time to be GM so i'm stepping down, Best wishes to everybody yadayadayada".

just gives the trolls more fodder to feed on and tie into their theories. My opinion is if you can stop a good deal of trolling with just a sentence or two why not?


I can understand not confirming or denying recent activities rogean, but its not to say it hasn't happened in the past with others like uthgaard, secrets, etc.

It can be tiresome to deny trolls over and over who might be using made up evidence, but I think it can be worse to stop denying and just ignore problems.

Snagglepuss
07-23-2012, 03:36 PM
In before moved to RnF

Silentone
07-23-2012, 03:59 PM
^^ I like this thread

Dravingar
07-23-2012, 04:05 PM
I agree, the evidence didn't look rock solid to me.

I just felt that amelinda stepping down as GM without at least saying something like

"I no longer have time to be GM so i'm stepping down, Best wishes to everybody yadayadayada".

just gives the trolls more fodder to feed on and tie into their theories. My opinion is if you can stop a good deal of trolling with just a sentence or two why not?


I can understand not confirming or denying recent activities rogean, but its not to say it hasn't happened in the past with others like uthgaard, secrets, etc.

It can be tiresome to deny trolls over and over who might be using made up evidence, but I think it can be worse to stop denying and just ignore problems.
Thats because they can no longer deny it, notice how someone edited out links to FOH boards? Easier to do damage control when people have to search out the info on their own.

Kassel
07-23-2012, 04:16 PM
People who are fired often do not say goodbye.

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 04:21 PM
People who are fired often do not say goodbye.

I didn't think she was fired. I thought she stepped down and was still a moderator on the forums here?

acid_reflux
07-23-2012, 04:43 PM
As long as the server keeps on running I.D.C.

Tarathiel
07-23-2012, 04:45 PM
I agree, the evidence didn't look rock solid to me.

I just felt that amelinda stepping down as GM without at least saying something like

"I no longer have time to be GM so i'm stepping down, Best wishes to everybody yadayadayada".

just gives the trolls more fodder to feed on and tie into their theories. My opinion is if you can stop a good deal of trolling with just a sentence or two why not?


I can understand not confirming or denying recent activities rogean, but its not to say it hasn't happened in the past with others like uthgaard, secrets, etc.

It can be tiresome to deny trolls over and over who might be using made up evidence, but I think it can be worse to stop denying and just ignore problems.

because its none of our business, and the trolls are going to troll irregardless. i hope this situation is a wake up call to the whole server. we got something special here, dont let a couple of no-life internet rejects ruin it for the people that actually enjoy this server. be appreciative of what the staff has done for us

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 04:55 PM
I fully understand it being "none of our business" but its extremely out of character for amelinda to NOT talk about her personal life on forums, in game, and on the various chat programs.

but I really have no desire to know all the indepth workings of her life, it has no bearing on this project to me.

It just seemed odd / out of character that somebody as outspoken as amelinda would leave of her own accord without at least saying goodbye and thanking all the great people on this server!

Autotune
07-23-2012, 05:00 PM
thanking all the great people on this server!

I seriously got a slight chuckle.

Jjlent
07-23-2012, 05:20 PM
lol people talk about quickfingers and TMO like he has logged on in the past year, he was an important person in TMO when he did play, or that he played more than sporadically and not that much when he did play
he hasn't, wasn't, and didn't

Slave
07-23-2012, 05:21 PM
She's gone where the goblins go: below, below, below!

Tarathiel
07-23-2012, 07:26 PM
Sorry to shatter your hopes and dreams of classic EQ but your precious little box is beyond corrupt. I still play here when I have time but Amelinda was a huge cunt and finding out what she was up to only reinforces my belief that she was a piece of shit. Good riddance.

I hope Rogaine rights the ship here because it's a good server but someone needs to take out the trash.

your words mean very little to me and barely warrant a response, but here it goes:

is this the most classic server a person can find: yes
are you playing on it for free: yes
is the server still fun for 99% of the people that play on it: yes
do the staff owe you an explanation about anything: no

like i said before, play on this server or dont. if you dont then move on and stop shitting it up for the people that still enjoy it here

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 07:31 PM
your words mean very little to me and barely warrant a response, but here it goes:

is this the most classic server a person can find: yes
are you playing on it for free: yes
is the server still fun for 99% of the people that play on it: yes
do the staff owe you an explanation about anything: no

like i said before, play on this server or dont. if you dont then move on and stop shitting it up for the people that still enjoy it here

quoted for the future, when a more classic server comes along.

Tarathiel
07-23-2012, 07:33 PM
quoted for the future, when a more classic server comes along.

dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 07:35 PM
dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you

I think thats exactly the point though. Being the only semi classic server up atm.. they feel no need to provide good community service and feedback.

Don't think they have enough support staff on the team. their response, you aren't allowed to complain because its free.

Don't like non-classic things they have implemented. their response tough cookies.

When more of the classic projects out there come online. I'd be interested to see how long you maintain that attitude.

It's hardly a good attitude when any criticism at all is met with "just be happy its free" or "don't like it leave".

because P99 won't be the only game in town forever and people will leave.

formallydickman
07-23-2012, 07:36 PM
I think thats exactly the point though. Being the only semi classic server up atm.. they feel no need to provide good community service and feedback.

When more of the classic projects out there come online. I'd be interested to see how long you maintain that attitude.

You speak as if something amazing is on the horizon. When is a more classic project coming online? Is there even one in the works?

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 07:40 PM
You speak as if something amazing is on the horizon. When is a more classic project coming online? Is there even one in the works?

I'd provide links and such.. but its a bannable offense here for some reason. but yes.. perfect absolutely 100% classic projects are in the works (and some nearing completion)

just do some googling.

Tarathiel
07-23-2012, 07:54 PM
I'd provide links and such.. but its a bannable offense here for some reason.

cant do it here because we cant do it there.

really tho dude, look at the attitude a lot of people take in their interactions with the staff. they act like spoiled ungrateful children always screaming "gimmie gimmie gimmie, omg favoritism omg." i personally, have never had one unpleasant encounter with a gm. i make my petitions as polite and accurate as possible and am humble and respectful of their decisions. some times things have went my way sometimes they havent. but i have always been treated fairly and with respect. would you like to know, why? because thats how i treat them. its not some magic concept... you know, respect.

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 07:57 PM
I don't want to criticize the staff here (even if constructive) but you would be right that one problem on the server is that it is too filled with drama and trolling.

India
07-23-2012, 08:44 PM
your words mean very little to me and barely warrant a response, but here it goes:

is this the most classic server a person can find: yes
are you playing on it for free: yes
is the server still fun for 99% of the people that play on it: yes
do the staff owe you an explanation about anything: no

like i said before, play on this server or dont. if you dont then move on and stop shitting it up for the people that still enjoy it here

You're certainly taking the silver lining view and I understand that you'd like everything to be nice and pretty and fine. However, regardless of how you feel and what you post, people have a right to question, to be upset, to feel betrayed or whatever else they may be feeling at the moment. I am not saying they have a right to answers and I doubt they'll ever get them,, but they do have a right to be upset.

Along with your sunny view, here are a couple of other items to digest


Not everyone was playing for free
A fair number of people were getting banned for allegedly RMTing, allegedly two-boxing and allegedly doing a lot of things
The "staff" (by "staff" I do NOT mean everyone on staff) were taking money from these people to get their accounts unbanned. People who may or may not have been guilty of their alleged crimes
People who so wanted to play on this "free" server, they paid to do so
even makes me wonder if people paid to get IP exemptions (just a thought, not saying this is fact)
The "staff" were in fact doing exactly (RMT) what they were banning others (RMT) for doing (and not banning others (RMT) for doing....)
So this alleged staff member and their faster than fast ban hammer (ban first, let the innocent prove their innocence) was a farce.
The server can and probably is still fun for the majority that play. That majority can have fun and still disagree with aspects of what has happened. They can still be upset

Snagglepuss
07-23-2012, 08:45 PM
Well, it's been said over and over again that this "other project" will be great and many are waiting for it. In fact, I believe that the reason this server was started was because the administrators got tired of waiting for the other project to come to fruition themselves so they took the initiatve to start their own. I've been following this "other project" since 2007. They aren't even near beta. People can knock this server for not being 100% classic, but it's the most viable option at this point in time.

Flunklesnarkin
07-23-2012, 09:04 PM
Well, it's been said over and over again that this "other project" will be great and many are waiting for it. In fact, I believe that the reason this server was started was because the administrators got tired of waiting for the other project to come to fruition themselves so they took the initiatve to start their own. I've been following this "other project" since 2007. They aren't even near beta. People can knock this server for not being 100% classic, but it's the most viable option at this point in time.

I think thats the reason this server has the population it has at the moment as well. The wait for the perfect server can take a while heh.

I think this is a good metaphor "There are two ways to restore a classic car with rare parts. You can restore the body of the car and make it look stock and then put a modern engine, suspension and exhaust on it (P99). The other option is to restore the body, like in the original, but, because the original engine and mechanical parts are no longer made, you get ahold of the blueprints and machine the parts by hand or find old parts and restore them by hand. (other project)"

Snagglepuss
07-23-2012, 09:29 PM
I think thats the reason this server has the population it has at the moment as well. The wait for the perfect server can take a while heh.

I think this is a good metaphor "There are two ways to restore a classic car with rare parts. You can restore the body of the car and make it look stock and then put a modern engine, suspension and exhaust on it (P99). The other option is to restore the body, like in the original, but, because the original engine and mechanical parts are no longer made, you get ahold of the blueprints and machine the parts by hand or find old parts and restore them by hand. (other project)"

That's a pretty good metaphor.

Tarathiel
07-23-2012, 11:29 PM
so much speculation, hearsay, and tin foil hats up in here. how has this not been moved to rnf yet?

Rogean
07-24-2012, 04:39 AM
so much speculation, hearsay, and tin foil hats up in here. how has this not been moved to rnf yet?

Probably because I've been asleep and I seem to be the only person around here with moderator powers that does anything.

So many misconceptions here it's ridiculous, you'd think the name of this website changed to foh.

Don't think they have enough support staff on the team. their response, you aren't allowed to complain because its free.

Pretty sure that I've never flat out responded to any valid criticism with "stfu its free", but only possibly as an argument to reinforce that we do the best we can do under the circumstances that we work during our free time. What you see is the community sticking up for us when the trolls hit the boards in force, because they also understand it.

I'd provide links and such.. but its a bannable offense here for some reason.

No, it isn't. What gave you that idea? You're mixing the two websites up. The project you are speaking of is in fact the one that instantly deletes and bans for any mention of other projects. If you ever thought any of our mild moderating policies were bad you have another thing coming over there.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23121
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74343
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17582

There have been projects and companies all over the world that have run into issues like the ones recent or even the ones that have happened over the last several years here, what is important is that the situations are handled.

If you are saying that Me, Nilbog, or Sirken are corrupt, then I urge you to please PM proper evidence to support your claims to the appropriate person. Those are the three people right now that have the majority of access to this server. Otherwise, I hope you understand that situations are being handled, and we will move on.

Arkanjil
07-24-2012, 05:44 AM
Where's my popcorn? This shit is delicious!

BABSIE
07-24-2012, 05:51 AM
Flunkle is just precious. Whenever he posts I picture a dim, yet earnest kitten pawing at a closed screen door. You know he's the runt, and you know that if left to the wild he wouldn't survive, yet for some reason, deep down in your heart of hearts, you're rooting for him. One day he'll make it!

xnolanx
07-24-2012, 06:29 AM
http://www.project1999.org/index.php?pageid=about

pretty official. When they update this, you know it's official.

read thru the first page of this thread pretty drunk, not gonna lie, then stopped at this comment.. heard what i heard around the server, about what went down and yeah.... basically all i have is the same point what every single other person brought up.. if they took the time to do this, then shit got srs....

other than that.. RIP amelinda you did do a lot of legit shit for me and my old school rogue on this server, it's been appreciated and for sure not going to be forgotten, idk what all went down, but either way i'm sure a big part of the community is gonna miss you. that's for sure.

lilyanna
07-24-2012, 07:02 AM
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Lagaidh
07-24-2012, 09:21 AM
Wow. Every time I am out of the loop for a week, I come back to some major server drama...

I am amazed at the stamina of the remaining staff to keep putting up with this. I'd have packed it in and shut down the server long ago.

/has a sad

formallydickman
07-24-2012, 09:32 AM
I'd provide links and such.. but its a bannable offense here for some reason. but yes.. perfect absolutely 100% classic projects are in the works (and some nearing completion)

just do some googling.

Oh, you mean eqclassic? I have known about that forever. That project is likely well beyond what I consider the horizon, if it ever arrives.

Lagaidh
07-24-2012, 10:01 AM
Oh, you mean eqclassic? I have known about that forever. That project is likely well beyond what I consider the horizon, if it ever arrives.

That's actually how I found p99. I'd been watching eqclassic for some time with interest after I retired from live for good in 2005ish. I can't recall when I exactly learned of eqclassic, but I'd check in from time to time.

I happened to take a peek at their site in the summer of 2010 and the google search I used to find their site had references to p99 in the top ten results.

I thought "No way is there one up and running... eqclassic has taken forever and is nowhere near release. P99 must really stink..."

I whipped out my old disks, followed the getting-started guide and was playing that night. Sheer joy... sheer joy...

Out of morbid curiosity, I peek at their site from time to time. Slow as always.

Alarti0001
07-24-2012, 10:26 AM
Oh, you mean eqclassic? I have known about that forever. That project is likely well beyond what I consider the horizon, if it ever arrives.

NNo he is talking about the sleeper server where he is beta testing and trying to draw people to a population deficient server. Kinda like relapse for eqmac but with slightly more tact.

acid_reflux
07-24-2012, 01:35 PM
I fail to understand what the problem is. Mabe i just dont give a damn. This is an emulation of a old ass game... wtf is the problem? Shit down your legs on some political bb.

Flunklesnarkin
07-24-2012, 03:40 PM
Yah eqclassic is the 100% classic project in the works. but there are also other eqemu projects that are where P99 was a few years ago (some in beta right now also), threads about them seem to get closed and locked.

I ultimately hope that the allegations against amelinda are false and if they are proven true, I hope she didn't do anything to imperil eqemu in any way.

It seems kinda messed up to ruin this for everybody just because you wanted a few extra dollars.

Kaellaven
07-24-2012, 06:51 PM
I fail to understand what the problem is. Mabe i just dont give a damn. This is an emulation of a old ass game... wtf is the problem? Shit down your legs on some political bb.

I'm with you. Congrats to the new GM, too bad about the other...play the game, keep it running don't fuck it up.

Christ it wasn't even this fuckin stupid back in 99.

Hobby
07-24-2012, 09:29 PM
Christ it wasn't even this fuckin stupid back in 99.

That's because in 1999, GM's did not get involved nor play. They were occasional helpers when things seriously fucked up. You'd never see a GM as often as you saw (and see) the GM's here.

When you have GM's getting involved with every piece of drama, you're going to have a bad time.

Fazlazen
07-24-2012, 10:06 PM
That's because in 1999, GM's did not get involved nor play. They were occasional helpers when things seriously fucked up. You'd never see a GM as often as you saw (and see) the GM's here.

When you have GM's getting involved with every piece of drama, you're going to have a bad time.

Hi Virtuosos

Snagglepuss
07-24-2012, 10:35 PM
I liked when GM's used to guard the EC tunnel from terrorists like Abacab and Raren.

Zereh
07-24-2012, 11:29 PM
now here's a GM i miss very much /wave Hobby

Yeah, who doesn't miss a GM who would talk shit about the guilds he wasn't in while on duty.

Hobby
07-25-2012, 01:03 AM
Hi Virtuosos

What up Faz? Been doing well? Hope everything is going okay with raiding <3

And don't worry Krayze, I miss you too!

Alarti0001
07-25-2012, 08:28 AM
What up Faz? Been doing well? Hope everything is going okay with raiding <3

And don't worry Krayze, I miss you too!

Could you maybe join us and heal us with your gm recharged epic over and over plz? Because that would prob be bad for the server too!

getsome
07-25-2012, 10:17 AM
Could you maybe join us and heal us with your gm recharged epic over and over plz? Because that would prob be bad for the server too!

Why would you want him to heal you if you write that it would be bad for the server?

If you are making an accusation, do you have evidence to support your claim? Have you submitted a petition?

quido
07-25-2012, 10:27 AM
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!

Versus
07-25-2012, 10:45 AM
Here we go..

Alarti0001
07-25-2012, 11:05 AM
Why would you want him to heal you if you write that it would be bad for the server?

If you are making an accusation, do you have evidence to support your claim? Have you submitted a petition?

Obv because if want the server to burn so tmo is forced to follow my grand scheme to move to eqmac and dominate "the resistance".

Hobby
07-25-2012, 11:19 AM
Here we go..

[14:58:23 2011] Phisting tells you, 'I'm thinking Phisting Pluto'

Heh... You were probably the most petitioned person on this server (outside all the idiots in TMO/IB/DA) that I got to interact with

[Sun Feb 06 19:25:05 2011] [02/06-06:46PM] (xxxxxx)xxxxxxx: I really find the name "phisting violently' offensive
[Sun Feb 13 20:32:55 2011] xxxxx tells you, 'phisting ... seriously dude'
[Sun Feb 27 11:43:31 2011] xxxxxx says, 'is phisting really an appropriate name?'
[Sat Mar 12 20:02:16 2011] xxxxx tells you, 'Why was my name changed and not Phisting?? I think fisting someone's ass is worse than xxxxxx'


---------

And Alarti, why the hell would I GM heal you when you guys dominate stuff enough as it is? If anything, we should handicap you by making you raid naked!

falkun
07-25-2012, 11:26 AM
raid naked!

There's a line here....

http://shop.lakelaniergear.com/media/DSC07729.jpg

Raavak
07-25-2012, 11:41 AM
And Alarti, why the hell would I GM heal you when you guys dominate stuff enough as it is? If anything, we should handicap you by making you raid naked!
Pantsless raids rock!

Arkanjil
07-25-2012, 02:34 PM
NO PANTS TANKING!!

Spitty
07-25-2012, 02:42 PM
If I can BotB down a TMO shaman in 30 seconds with no shirt on, you guys should have no problem with trouserless tanking.

karsten
07-25-2012, 02:52 PM
pals i'm talking to abacab AT THIS VERY MOMENT

Eashan2.2
07-25-2012, 02:55 PM
Hey Alarti, if you want I will log back onto my Dev toon and help Xz change mobs pathings and repop Plane of Sky...... wait did I say my Dev toon???? that does not make sense Eashan was a dev IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!

p.s. waiting for this account to get banned to :) up to 3 for the day

Jjlent
07-25-2012, 04:15 PM
no one cares...

Arkanjil
07-25-2012, 04:34 PM
Hey Alarti, if you want I will log back onto my Dev toon and help Xz change mobs pathings and repop Plane of Sky...... wait did I say my Dev toon???? that does not make sense Eashan was a dev IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!

p.s. waiting for this account to get banned to :) up to 3 for the day

I thought Sean liked you Eashan, what's up with the bans!?

Chloroform
07-25-2012, 04:37 PM
If I can BotB down a TMO shaman in 30 seconds with no shirt on, you guys should have no problem with trouserless tanking.

fuck u it was 40 seconds!