Server Down 8/4/12 9:00am est

[Ablok]

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[shwally]

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There is another Server Down Thread people have been posting on.

[kris28tx]

The other post they keep commenting on is from 12:30am cst lol why if the server is down (again) @ 9am cst would they comment saying it is down on a post that was for the 12:30 crash.

Server is down...again lol crashed at 12:30 went to bed, woke up at 8 and its crashed again

[CrowsNest]

A lot of server crashes lately

[Growlers]

Im going to make another thread :)

[Steam65641]

Someone text a GM.. reset this shit.

[csgreenpants]

Sigh.

[myxomatosii]

What about a login server that reboots itself once an hour? Idk. This just seems really persistent, like almost daily persistent lately.

[Hollywood]

What about a login server that reboots itself once an hour? Idk. This just seems really persistent, like almost daily persistent lately.

..hire some Euro based devs... they'll catch and fix this sooner than we will since most of us are still asleep at the hours it often gets broken.

[kris28tx]

it is twice a day.

[myxomatosii]

..hire some Euro based devs... they'll catch and fix this sooner than we will since most of us are still asleep at the hours it often gets broken.

Can anyone explain to me what the problem even is? Like what is physically happening and why do we seem to deal with it more here.

[pharmakos]

What about a login server that reboots itself once an hour? Idk. This just seems really persistent, like almost daily persistent lately.

would this actually work? seems like a fairly elegant solution if so. might be annoying if the server takes 5+ minutes to reboot though.

[myxomatosii]

would this actually work? seems like a fairly elegant solution if so. might be annoying if the server takes 5+ minutes to reboot though.

I have no idea hehe, just seems like something lazy I'd do if I had a server with these kinda problems but I have absolute zero experience in these areas so probably is an extremely sloppy/non-applicable suggestion. I just wanna know whats happening is all really.

[SwordNboard]

It's the login server, not the server itself. Every time you zone it tries to re-verify your credentials; Obviously failing. The remaining people are either AFK or smart enough to stay where they are and keep grinding.

[Danyelle]

It's the login server, not the server itself. Every time you zone it tries to re-verify your credentials; Obviously failing. The remaining people are either AFK or smart enough to stay where they are and keep grinding.

No. If it was the login server, every other server would have this issue. They don't. It's this server.


Project 1999 != Everquest Emulator.

[kris28tx]

usually its only down for a few minutes, so far though going on 2 hours

[Lostprophets]

It's the login server, not the server itself. Every time you zone it tries to re-verify your credentials; Obviously failing. The remaining people are either AFK or smart enough to stay where they are and keep grinding.

If it was the login server you couldn't log on to the EQ Emu to see any servers,

It's a problem specifically with P99.

[SwordNboard]

This server has lost its connection to the worldserver (loginserver). Zoning and global chats are not availbale. If it were the whole server there wouldn't even be 77 people on

[JenJen]

still in omg im a lucky one today

[Lostprophets]

This server has lost its connection to the worldserver (loginserver). Zoning and global chats are not availbale.

As it got disconnected from the login server, lol.
Login Server is 100% up and running. P99 Blue is not.

[Atmas]

Can anyone explain to me what the problem even is? Like what is physically happening and why do we seem to deal with it more here.

The problem is with the world server that handles logins to the server and zones. If the problem exists on both servers we probably only see it on blue because it is likely an incremental problem caused by a user action like zoning, which occurs much more on blue. It could be some unreleased resources on an action, perhaps even particular to zoning in Kunark.

[Danyelle]

This server has lost its connection to the worldserver (loginserver). Zoning and global chats are not availbale. If it were the whole server there wouldn't even be 77 people on

You...don't understand how this works so let me explain.

The world server connects to the login server right? World server, among many things, handles moving from one zone to another. Every single zone that is "up" has it's own individual zone server that communicates with the world server as well as any clients actively connected to that zone. When that message appears it means that the world server has lost it's connection with the login server. NOT that the login server has gone down. When the login server goes down all servers cease communication, all players are booted, and the world server goes into an infinitely looping attempt to reestablish connection, which obviously fails until the login server is brought back up. When the world server drops, however, all people that are still with a single zone may continue playing, as they are still being handled by their individual zone server. However if they were to attempt to zone, log in/out, go linkdead, die, or anything of that nature, the world server is no longer there to handle the transition between zone servers and the player is booted from the game.

Make sense?

[Danyelle]

I should also probably mention this as I think this is where you're getting confused. The world server is specific to that individual server. P99 has it's own world server, P99 Red has it's own world server, PEQ has it's own world server, EZ has it's own world server, THF has it's own world server, and EVERY single zone on each server has their own individual zone servers. However EVERY server shares the same login server. If the world server drops it only affects the server that world server belonged to. If the login server drops, EQEmu doesn't work....period. People can't log in, people can play, servers can't connect. Even the EQEmu forums go down, as they are hosted on the same box. Or at least were once upon a time, I'm unsure if they still are.

[Chokan]

Apparently I slept through the hours when the server was up :(

[JenJen]

danyelle....people are idiots. leave them be

[Danyelle]

danyelle....people are idiots. leave them be

You understand me though! <3

[Darkatar]

You...don't understand how this works so let me explain.

The world server connects to the login server right? World server, among many things, handles moving from one zone to another. Every single zone that is "up" has it's own individual zone server that communicates with the world server as well as any clients actively connected to that zone. When that message appears it means that the world server has lost it's connection with the login server. NOT that the login server has gone down. When the login server goes down all servers cease communication, all players are booted, and the world server goes into an infinitely looping attempt to reestablish connection, which obviously fails until the login server is brought back up. When the world server drops, however, all people that are still with a single zone may continue playing, as they are still being handled by their individual zone server. However if they were to attempt to zone, log in/out, go linkdead, die, or anything of that nature, the world server is no longer there to handle the transition between zone servers and the player is booted from the game.

Make sense?

Like this?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/servermapm.png/
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8361/servermapm.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/servermapm.png/)

[Hollywood]

danyelle....people are idiots. leave them be
You understand me though! <3



http://i48.tinypic.com/3304mxt.jpg

[Danyelle]

Like this?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/servermapm.png/
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8361/servermapm.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/servermapm.png/)

Yeah that's pretty much the jist of it.


http://i48.tinypic.com/3304mxt.jpg


No no. I only share that type of relationship with one person :3

[SwordNboard]

I should also probably mention this as I think this is where you're getting confused. The world server is specific to that individual server. P99 has it's own world server, P99 Red has it's own world server, PEQ has it's own world server, EZ has it's own world server, THF has it's own world server, and EVERY single zone on each server has their own individual zone servers. However EVERY server shares the same login server. If the world server drops it only affects the server that world server belonged to. If the login server drops, EQEmu doesn't work....period. People can't log in, people can play, servers can't connect. Even the EQEmu forums go down, as they are hosted on the same box. Or at least were once upon a time, I'm unsure if they still are.

Ah, I thought the worldserver was literally that: A server for all worlds (servers). Otherwise, we're on the same page. Practice on not being so mad all of the time though? :) Thanks.

[Darkatar]

Originally Posted by Danyelle
I should also probably mention this as I think this is where you're getting confused. The world server is specific to that individual server. P99 has it's own world server, P99 Red has it's own world server, PEQ has it's own world server, EZ has it's own world server, THF has it's own world server, and EVERY single zone on each server has their own individual zone servers. However EVERY server shares the same login server. If the world server drops it only affects the server that world server belonged to. If the login server drops, EQEmu doesn't work....period. People can't log in, people can play, servers can't connect. Even the EQEmu forums go down, as they are hosted on the same box. Or at least were once upon a time, I'm unsure if they still are.

Ah, I thought the worldserver was literally that: A server for all worlds (servers). Otherwise, we're on the same page. Practice on not being so mad all of the time though? :) Thanks.

Mad where? :confused:

[newbsauce]

so how long will the server be down for?

[Darkatar]

so how long will the server be down for?

until someone with the authority to press the reset button wakes up, I'm assuming :D

[SwordNboard]

so how long will the server be down for?

Too long, man, too long. Although I'm about to go enjoy beautiful Brown County, Indiana so I suppose I don't care much. As long as it's back up tomorrow!

[Darkatar]

Too long, man, too long. Although I'm about to go enjoy beautiful Brown County, Indiana so I suppose I don't care much. As long as it's back up tomorrow!

enjoy that 95% humidity 95deg. F and the next 2 days of rain for me, kthx.

[SwordNboard]

I will. I live here and I'm used to it, lol. I'll also breathe some fresh air for you because you sound like you need it. On the subject of rain, we need it desperately, so I will enjoy it very much!

[Hollywood]

until someone with the authority to press the reset button wakes up, I'm assuming :D

Hence my continual comments about a European time zone GM.

[Narsistica]

can we please fix this...

[Acrux Bcrux]

This would happen on my only day off from work and first day all week to actually get a decent session in. Why are the GMs against me!? =(

[Darkatar]

Hence my continual comments about a European time zone GM.

that or have a series of scripts setup to query the worldserver and either A:Reset the server if it detects issues or B:Notify someone (or everyone with permission to reset the server) if it detects an issue

We can't just have a euro GM because we need someone on a certain time schedule...schedules change! I certainly don't want them to scrape the barrel if there are no suitable GM apps in a certain timezone

[newbsauce]

enjoy that 95% humidity 95deg. F and the next 2 days of rain for me, kthx.

I am from Fort Worth, Texas. Its 109 deg outside and I have mono. Im not about to go outside, I NEED TO LEVEL MY MONK! :cool:

[Ghostman]

Does the person that flips the reset play Everquest? That's all they need. I believe they have several hundred volunteers at a minimum. If not I offer my services :D

[Portasaurus]

it is I, portasaurus, and i demand that this free game work immediately!

[Ghostman]

A simple fix would be a page on here with a server status light, a rubber pad to beat your head against, and flash pac-man :cool:

[Gobu]

Yeah I am about 20 min outside Fort Worth as well... it is not fun getting baked... i feel sorry for bread now.

[Darkatar]

I am from Fort Worth, Texas. Its 109 deg outside and I have mono. Im not about to go outside, I NEED TO LEVEL MY MONK! :cool:
You're a scholar and a gentleman, that's how you do it!

Does the person that flips the reset play Everquest? That's all they need. I believe they have several hundred volunteers at a minimum. If not I offer my services :D

If anyone could press the reset button, we'd have guilds spam resetting the server in an attempt to prevent others from getting loot

[Ghostman]

Tell me they shouldn't hire me as the flip switchin dude...:cool:

[Darkatar]

Tell me they shouldn't hire me as the flip switchin dude...:cool:

well then you'd at least get bribed by the guilds to flip that switch :D

edit: wait... you mean switch flippin dude, right? :O

[Ghostman]

Hey, nobody said it would be a light burden lol

[Darkatar]

SERVER RESET IMMINENT

(that is to say its been taken down/full crash)

maybe someone will notice now?

UP!

[Acrux Bcrux]

edit: wait... you mean switch flippin dude, right? :O

flippin switch dude maybe? /shrug

[Portasaurus]

SERVER RESET IMMINENT

wewt

[Ghostman]

Tell me you wouldn't have liked to have flash pac-man :cool:

i'm Hitzallstuffz btw :D

[Acrux Bcrux]

looks like the shit is back up, time to stop working on post counts and keel some shit.

[Hollywood]

You're a scholar and a gentleman, that's how you do it!



If anyone could press the reset button, we'd have guilds spam resetting the server in an attempt to prevent others from getting loot


Nilbog, can flip it. Are you suggesting he does intentionally?

And it would be easy to spot on the logs when someone was doing it for reasons other than a legit server reset.

[Darkatar]

Nilbog, can flip it. Are you suggesting he does intentionally?

And it would be easy to spot on the logs when someone was doing it for reasons other than a legit server reset.

Where does it even remotely suggest nilbog intentionally resets the server? :confused:

I'm merely suggesting if the server reset button wasn't carefully guarded, all it would cause is issues, anyway, server is up, nobody cares now

[oddibemcd]

Not sure if it's me, but population is dropping.

[Atmas]

...

[Chokan]

? or is it just me?

[pharmakos]

Yeah I am about 20 min outside Fort Worth as well... it is not fun getting baked... i feel sorry for bread now.

this is contrary to my experience

[Vicatin]

Login server down again it seems @ 3:51pm CST

[Coramoor]

went down for me also , can still see that people are online

[kalderon]

having log in issues as well

[Drasis]

confirmed

[wasp23]

omfg

[Valiant]

double xp please, jeez

[Grumble]

Yep. I got kicked out zoning. I'm watching server pop at launcher drop.

[Clyve]

Jesus Christ.

It must be the weekend.

[godbox]

rad zoned HS and died heres hopin i ld before dieing or a gm will rez me =(

[Jeezy1221]

Ya i got kicked earlier zoning from FoB to KT no aggro mind you and came back at bind. Necro can't even locate says it's not in either zone. WTFcopter

[botrainer]

I was kicked, Fell off boat yet again lol seems any time I head to OoTears...server numbers have been droping for the last 10 mins was at 350 now under 300 and droping.

[Extunarian]

"hey guys just gonna log over to my shaman to buff us...back before repops"

whoops.

[Malevz]

Got disconnected too and can't get back on. blah.

[Dac321]

What is the meaning of this....

[Anathuril]

Yup - blue server went down again - what is that, three or four times today?

[Jjlent]

Everytime I try to log onto server/character select it boots me back to login and I get an Error 1017. I've re-downloaded and installed the latest update and restarted my computer but it keeps happening.
Does anyone know how I can fix this? Please help

[oddibemcd]

world server down at the moment. we all have probs

[Kierowyn]

I was kicked, Fell off boat yet again lol seems any time I head to OoTears...server numbers have been droping for the last 10 mins was at 350 now under 300 and droping.

hah, yeah you and that boat don't mix, just wait for me to port ya around

[oldhead]

cant log in.. still down?

Damn it... limited time to play and when I do get a few hours. Server down. shit luck.

[shadevice]

the sky is falling, technical difficulties on a free product....omgz.

For real people, do something else for a bit.

[Maze513]

oh jj

[Jjlent]

ok i see, thank u :P

[Grumble]

I'll buy them a new server, if I win a lottery.

[Clyve]

the sky is falling, technical difficulties on a free product....omgz.

For real people, do something else for a bit.

Normally I would agree, but some of us only have select hours of play time, and when the server continually goes down during those select hours, it makes it very difficult to enjoy.

What makes it worse is that the rate this is happening is only increasing.

[oldhead]

the sky is falling, technical difficulties on a free product....omgz.

For real people, do something else for a bit.

Some of us have lives bro.

[shadevice]

Normally I would agree, but some of us only have select hours of play time, and when the server continually goes down during those select hours, it makes it very difficult to enjoy.

What makes it worse is that the rate this is happening is only increasing.

Your personal time has nothing to do with a free product. It's free. Thus you cannot complain. IF you were paying monthly and there were issues, than you would have every right to complain.

[shadevice]

Some of us have lives bro.

Pretty sure 90% of the player base has lives. I'm included. But i'm not so ignorant to believe that more special or my time at a specific time is more special than anyone elses.

It's a free product and I'll enjoy it when I am able and if its working, perfect, if not, I have no right to complain as I'm not paying any of the bills to run the server, nor paying any of the people who contribute to the server.

[Raavak]

I am more concerned with the increasing rate of downtime.

[Thorfin]

hey looks what rogean is doing...
http://www.twitch.tv/rogean

[norova]

Just because something is free doesn't mean you cannot complain. You can still express concern over it not working properly, just don't be an ass about it. You may not be entitled to hold someone responsible for the service not working, but you sure as heck have the right to complain a little.

[Swinger]

Is the issue money? How much does a reliable server cost monthly? Yearly? I don't know about everyone else.. but this is my "alone-time hobby". If I'm not working or fishing, I'm everquesting. I sure wouldn't mind chipping in for a more reliable server if it meant less glitches.

[mwatt]

Yes it's free so no right to complain. The freeness is probably contributing to the issue because we may be running on lesser equipment than is optimal and/or we may be using a bargain ISP or on some sort of limited usage deal. Or it could be DOS attacks. Or it could be something else entirely.

Granted it is happening more lately than I can recall in my 2 or so years of play here. I have to believe however that Nil and Rog are aware of the problem. Because they are who they are I am also sure that whatever steps can be taken are either being taken now or will be soon.

[Dac321]

Your personal time has nothing to do with a free product. It's free. Thus you cannot complain. IF you were paying monthly and there were issues, than you would have every right to complain.

This is America. I have the right to be pissed about anything... I don't care that it's free.

And, yes, I to have a life.

[shadevice]

Just because something is free doesn't mean you cannot complain. You can still express concern over it not working properly, just don't be an ass about it. You may not be entitled to hold someone responsible for the service not working, but you sure as heck have the right to complain a little.

Whatever floats your boat, if complaining helps you sleep at night go for it. The effect it will have will be negligible though.

You'd have just as much luck complaining that its raining outside and cursing mother nature.

She might care

[Sirken]

/p = this session: 11hrs 45min 30sec

@5:30pmEST

server has not been down in at least near 12 hrs because i wouldnt still be in game at this moment. Login Server not letting you connect does not always mean P99 is down.

[Grimmy73]

Login Server still down yeah?

[shadevice]

This is America. I have the right to be pissed about anything... I don't care that it's free.

And, yes, I to have a life.

Grats on having a life broski, *virtual high five*

And yeah you're an american for sure. Grats on that to. Complain until your hearts content. You might get some type of bonus government check in the mail for quality complaining.

[Gert Groinwounder]

Ferchristsake, please fix this somehow. I know this is free to play and you all have lives, but just saying...

[Hollywood]

Food at a soup kitchen is free.
If it's unnecessarily hot and scolds a homeless man, should he just suck it up and deal with it?
What if it burns more than one person and it happens every couple of days when they serve soup in particular?
Should they all just deal with it because it's free?

What if the food isn't quite hygienic and they get sick or at least bad stomach pains.
Should they all just deal with it because it's free?


People who defend this 'free' argument are just asses with nothing better to do.


It's safe to say that other servers run on less hardware with less support than P99 and yet they don't have this issue.
And why on Earth don't any of the guides, GMs or admins pop up a broadcast as soon as they see the error (or get messaged) as to let people know not to zone or log out?

P.S. server is up

[godbox]

my servers too hot it burned ma moufff

[Grimmy73]

Server population is down to 165 on a Sat. Something is obviously wrong.... Though it isn't the server...

[shadevice]

Food at a soup kitchen is free.
If it's unnecessarily hot and burns the mouth of a homeless man, should he just suck it up and deal with it?

What if it burns more than one person and it happens every couple of days when they serve soup in particular?

Should they all just deal with it because it's free?

People who defend this 'free' argument are just asses with nothing better to do.

It's safe to say that other servers run on less hardware with less support than P99 and yet they don't have this issue.

if some lazy ass bum doesnt like the food at a soup kitchen he can go dig in the garbage, bad argument there mate.

[Barkingturtle]

I'm really mad that I don't have any soup during this outage.:mad:

[mwatt]

/p = this session: 11hrs 45min 30sec

@5:30pmEST

server has not been down in at least near 12 hrs because i wouldnt still be in game at this moment. Login Server not letting you connect does not always mean P99 is down.

You may not have experienced some of the things that sometimes goes hand in hand with logon server problems - which is "world server" problems (maybe that is the same thing? I dunno). For the past few weeks, it is not uncommon to zone and crash and not be able to log back in or even to simply go LD and not be able to get back in because login server is down. Lately, I have seen a lot of global messages related to world server disconnecting and reconnecting. This often presages a soon to come LD.

[Sirken]

probably should have added that i bat phoned rogean about it too :p

[Raavak]

:P

[runlvlzero]

I was gonna say SWOTOR looks cool, kind of looks like they copied STO a bit ;p Thanks for the reboot!

[Protagonist]

Whatever floats your boat, if complaining helps you sleep at night go for it. The effect it will have will be negligible though.

You'd have just as much luck complaining that its raining outside and cursing mother nature.

She might care

Why do you care again?

[shadevice]

I was gonna say SWOTOR looks cool, kind of looks like they copied STO a bit ;p Thanks for the reboot!

its wow style in space bro.

[Dac321]

Grats on having a life broski, *virtual high five*

And yeah you're an american for sure. Grats on that to. Complain until your hearts content. You might get some type of bonus government check in the mail for quality complaining.

Complaining and being pissed aren't the same broski... Also, I wasn't aware you could get checks from the government for complaining, you must be an expert.

K.

[shadevice]

Why do you care again?

Server is down, so i'm entertaining myself here, thanks for asking, friend.

[shadevice]

Complaining and being pissed aren't the same broski... Also, I wasn't aware you could get checks from the government for complaining, you must be an expert.

K.

Oh you didn't know? americans get checks for doing absolutely nothing all the time.

[Grumble]

Back up again.

[Protagonist]

Server is down, so i'm entertaining myself here, thanks for asking, friend.

Troll then. Good day.

[Dac321]

Oh you didn't know? americans get checks for doing absolutely nothing all the time.

Doing nothing doesn't require action, complaining does...

Anyway... I'm gonna get a glass of scotch, and try to log in..

[Lagaidh]

The problem is with the world server that handles logins to the server and zones. If the problem exists on both servers we probably only see it on blue because it is likely an incremental problem caused by a user action like zoning, which occurs much more on blue. It could be some unreleased resources on an action, perhaps even particular to zoning in Kunark.

The way it seems to be happening more frequently with the recent resurgence in population makes me favor your theory. It sure smells like a memory leak of some sort... lose a little on some repeated action and after a while some piece of software seizes.